electricity, so that, well, a slipper, in short, let’s also have a pension, well, this is international humanitarian law, you won’t get anywhere here, eh, what kind of military, you know, very much, it seems to me, it’s not quite right to divide exclusively, but what kind of the military component, and what is the military-political component, and what is the military-media component, and what is the international component, these are all related things, and when we cross something out separately, well, it may become clear. that apparently everything did not go as well as we would have liked, well, if we exclude the purely military component, well firstly, we forced the russians to withdraw troops there, secondly, we at least canceled, or at best not canceled, at worst suspended the possibility of the teresians to attack the sumy, as they planned, taking into account the attack on kharkiv oblast, but what if things are taken, then the chaos in the russian military command begins, arrests are planned there. generals, our actions from the point of view

of our international partners encourage, already encourage, there is no such word, but fiction, to increase aid, and some countries that they hesitated, they can join the help, well , maybe not for nothing, the minister, yes, the prime minister of india should arrive in ukraine on flag day on the 23rd, it is unlikely that he will come with ultimatums, he is coming, something, he will agree on something, well, about something, i think, to agree, and a lot. such things that they are connected, but what has happened now, the commander of the kurdish military operation was removed there, the fsb was installed, well, other things, so as not to enumerate in a circle, this also has an effect on the troops, on military operations , on the results of the war, just take it apart like that, well, you you know, i used to be such an example, he is not a military man. er, they taught how er, well, it doesn’t matter

who taught what, but there is such a very interesting thing, when a person, well, a child there, fell in love there foolishly, well, that’s what i was told, the grandfathers and great-grandfathers there are old, how can you get away a person from a stupid, childlike , youthful crush, so as not to regret it later, and now you have to ask for... two questions about this child who is growing up, do you love this girl, yes he will say yes, and what exactly are you in you love her more than anything, and a person falls into stupor, you see the general picture, well, it may be such a mean little thing from the point of view of parents, but immediately from the image, from the general picture, you distinguish what can be clarified there, you like the hands or the legs there or the eyes there more. or that is all, and when you

lay out the general picture on the shelves like that, then you can take something separate and it may not be right, and that here are very beautiful eyes, but no, maybe the eyes are more beautiful, that is, even then the general picture is lost, it is quite mean pedagogical course, well, i was told that if it is necessary, well, i have to thank god already adult children, so it was not possible to do such a thing, but the same thing can be done, maybe not the best example, but i did not find another one, because i prepared myself for such examples, but if everything that happened in kurshchyna is laid out on the shelves , and what kind of international influence is there, well, how great is the impact, could we have done more and so on, and then it will be lost, let’s see, we have made a very powerful and very influential action, which in the complex will give us many advantages in the future, no only the exchange fund, everything else and... will already give and will continue to give

advantages in international relations, the remobilization of the situation in the russian federation, the improvement of the morale of our troops , including the people in the rear, who started there, some are already there, such a depressed state is beginning in them, so, well, i honestly do not think that it is correct to take out one thing and discuss it without connecting it with another, well, that's not how it works. beyond any doubt, obviously, obviously, we will have to see the development of this operation, because we are witnesses of only two weeks of ukrainian fighting in kursk oblast, we will actually see how these events will develop further, i hope that in the next broadcasts we will definitely analyze this in detail with you. thank you for participating in the program, mr. major, it was oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran.

russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live, and of course, in addition to information and the situation in kurshchyna, we are monitoring the fact that from... in donetsk region, the situation in the pokrov direction, the enemy is advancing, but, as serhiy says tsekhotskyi, this is the press officer of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade named after yakov handziuk, the ukrainian army will not allow pokrovsk to be captured despite the intense pressure of the enemy, serhiy tsekhotskyi said this on the espresso tv channel. let's listen. unfortunately, somewhere we have to retreat in the sense that it is necessary to preserve personnel, that is , the life and health of everyone, even one military serviceman - is very important, but at the same time there are those moments for which we

should not approach, and exactly such a city is pokrovsk, because it is logistics, that a combination, this is already such a symbol of the donetsk region, you know, the city of pokrovsky there, and the residents, and the city of same velike, and so on. oh, i hope the general staff is keeping a close eye on this and planning operations to prevent it from happening. it was serhii tsehotskyi, he is the press secretary and press officer of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade named after yakov. handziuk meanwhile, the american institute for the study of war reports with reference to geolocation footage that russian troops have advanced to the southwest of novoselivskyi, it is southeast of kupyansk, and southwest of andriivka, west of svatovo. also,

according to analysts, the russians captured zavitne southeast of pokrovsk, and another settlement a little north of novozelandne. in addition, the troops of... russia advanced in the northwestern part of pavlivka to the southwest of ugledar. deep state is a ukrainian project that informs in turn that the russian army occupied the border of the pokrovsky district of the donetsk region, boring and crane, as well as advanced near grodivka and zavitny, heavy battles for new york continue. well, a lot of information is coming along. in recent days and a lot of different information, so we try to verify it and provide you with accurate information, since there is a lot of unverified information, and today i read in particular on social networks

that there in new york it seems that our 20% control territory of new york in donetsk region, the exact information will obviously be available soon. tomorrow morning from the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, we will learn, in fact, what is happening there well, in the meantime, the russians reported that after the entry of the armed forces of ukraine into the territory of the kurt region, they created a group of troops, belharad, kursk and bryansk, which should protect the territories from drone attacks and other means of attack, well, at least this one... information indicates that the russians will be preparing apparently new strike groups in the northeast, meaning ukraine, above sumy, and in the kursk region and

probably in the bryansk, voronezh and plus also in the belgorod regions, at the same time as reports bild analyst julian ryobke, after the ukrainian attacks on three main bridges across the seym in kursk oblast, well , it means that the seym is flowing in both kursk and sumy oblasts, this part of the seym, which flows near sumy oblast, but towards kurt oblast , up to 3,000 soldiers may end up in kazan, because bridges and military groups were blown up there. is in a rather critical state, again all the information about how the events will develop, we will discuss in the next broadcasts, because it is operational information that comes from the news feeds and we follow it throughout the day. let me remind

you, friends, that we are conducting a survey throughout the broadcast today and we are asking you this question: will russia stop its activities in ukraine? the orthodox church after the adoption of the law of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. today, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted the law on the activities of religious organizations in ukraine. and we are talking about... religious organizations are connected with the russian federation, and here we are asking whether, after the adoption of this law, it will stop activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, you can write your own comment under this video if you have a separate opinion. if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote by numbers if you think that... after the adoption of this law , the activities of the roc in ukraine may stop

(0800-211-381), no (0800-211- 382). all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will tally up the results of our voting. well, actually, that's it this law, which was adopted today, is better known as the law on banning the activities of the russian orthodox church. and today, in the second reading during consideration in the verkhovna rada, this law was supported by 265 people's deputies. what does this law provide? this law provides that the russian orthodox church should be banned as a religious organization. the activities of all organizations affiliated with the russian orthodox church will be terminated according to a clear procedure, which will include research, law enforcement order and injunction. the russian orthodox church and

structures affiliated with it will not be able to use it state and communal property. the transition of communities to the ukrainian local orthodox church will be simplified. and in fact, this transition can last up to 9 months, that is, this is a very long transition period from conditional. the existence of the uoc mp before the transition of parishes to the orthodox church of ukraine may be approximately nine months. then there are these religious organizations that will not go to the ocu or declare that they do not cooperate or will not provide documents that they do not work with the russians. structures, so there will be an injunction through the court, but

it is also interesting that today the security service of ukraine published statistics about how moscow priests work on the territory of the ukrainian state, how they work against this state, first of all a full-scale invasion against more than 100 uoc priests, criminal cases were initiated . more than 100 priests worked for the russian federation. almost 50 of them have already reported the suspicion, and 26 received, 26 received court sentences. and this is also indicative, because in principle we understand that in the current situation they are working quite actively. russian special services on the territory of the ukrainian state, the russian orthodox church was and remains the tool

used by vladimir putin during this war against the ukrainian state, because it is a very large organized structure , a branch of the russian orthodox church, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, although in may 22 in its cathedral, this church or this organization in... praised the decision that they are a separate, separate church from the russian orthodox church, none they have no relation to the russian orthodox church, but the fact remains that the priests of this church worked for it, and apparently some of them continue to work together with the russians, because what is more against more than 100 priests of the ukrainian orthodox church. mps initiated criminal cases during the full-scale invasion, this is still

a serious figure and shows that russia was and remains the country that influences the ukrainian orthodox church, ooc, mp, including through the russian orthodox church, but in this case unfortunately, the sbu also did not report how much in fact, during... the time of the great, i mean, the entire russian-ukrainian war, criminal cases were initiated against the priests of the uoc, mp. considering the fact that in the first year of russia's invasion of ukraine, we saw how the churches and monasteries of the russian orthodox church were used by these russian organized orthodox structures in order to either hide

there russian special agents who, as was the case in... donetsk region were hiding in the premises of the ukrainian ukrainian orthodox church, and of course there are a lot of questions about how, how this whole procedure will take place, in what way the branch of the russian orthodox church, which has always been the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, will disappear from the map of ukraine, perhaps. these and other questions will be answered by maksym the intelligent, political expert, doctor of political sciences, mr. maksym, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, good evening, but zelenskyi calls the law that was adopted today in the verkhovna rada, this the law on spiritual independence, which is after its adoption

this law will change in ukraine and whether, does this mean... that the adoption of this law puts an end to the existence of a branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, and we understand that we are talking about a church that has a long history of cooperation with the russian orthodox church, this is the ukrainian orthodox church the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, and what can prevent ukrainians from getting rid of this church. i think that we are facing a long period of such certain uncertainty, that is, the law puts an end to the issues of legal entities, that is, these communities, issues of ownership, but about which, which these, religious organizations, these,

priests will follow the path. and their parishioners, for now we can only predict, study options, and it is obvious that this process will be accompanied by some new decisions that are no longer within the scope of ukrainian legislation, that is , no longer within the competence of the verkhovna rada, for example, but within the competence of other centers with... the decision, let's say this, but recently this story appeared on the agenda, and they started talking about it, about trying to get a second tomos, for example, parallel to this appeared another, but already such a very persistent

appeal of metropolitan epiphanius of kyiv, head. of the orthodox church in ukraine to metropolitan onufry with a call for unconditional unification without preconditions and so on, all this signals to us that the path will be long, but i would call the adoption of this law such a point of no return, that is, of that church, that branch of the russian orthodox church, which has remained with us literally until today. well, by the time the new law comes into force, this organization will no longer exist will be, but those people who went to her and those people who, so to speak, support her, they remain in ukraine, and their path to , so to speak, her ukrainian church

affiliation, it will obviously be long and is different. the paths these people will follow, i think, someone will join the ukrainian, the orthodox church in ukraine, someone will, so to speak, switch to some illegal status, someone will look for forms of self-organization, well, for example, its patriarch filaret broke with the orthodox church in ukraine and created his own religious organization, that is, some others will arise. religious organizations that will insist on their understanding of canonicity there, something else, it will be a long and obviously difficult process, but the main thing is that this... which will be subordinated to moscow, we will no longer have, but what will be the reaction to your opinion on the part of russia, because the russian orthodox church has always

believed that everything that is on the territory of ukraine is originally russian, and theirs, including the church and all these parishes, for a long, long time they controlled all these structures and apparently partly still control, both for putin and for russians in general, the existence of the russian orthodox church, this, this, this is a very important element of their policy towards ukraine. of course, of course, for them it is such a painful process, and in fact, there is already a first reaction, a very sharp one, that is, they are there, all the earthly and heavenly punishments on our heads, so to speak, are calling for this, a solution, but here there is another pay attention to certain such moments, which i would associate with such a specific area

of ​​church politics, we remember what the reaction of the same onuphrius was to the beginning a full-scale invasion, that is, it was not rejection and rejection, and i... for a certain part of the clergy of the ukrainian orthodox church, it was treason, russia's attack on ukraine, because she, so to speak, this act, he, well, is openly hostile, and this undermined the position of this church in ukraine, and we remember that there were certain contradictions, so to speak, that is, i think that... the rift in the relations between the kyiv metropolitanate and the russian orthodox church, it has passed and it has existed for quite a long time , therefore, on

the ideological front, so to speak, on ideologically, of course, russia will try to use this event to the fullest and will talk about the catastrophe, orthodoxy and all that, but in a certain, in a certain moral and... and in some, probably also in an organizational sense, i think that this did not come as a surprise to kirill and to the clergy of the russian orthodox church, and in general, this is a natural step that was already impossible, so to speak, to stop, i think that this is the perception of the majority of the clergy and parishioners. er, of the ukrainian orthodox church in ukraine itself, they, i think, understood what was going on, and, er, already so to speak,

it will be impossible to glue this broken, broken cup together. well, and obviously, the current decision will also affect russia's position regarding possible negotiations, which have been talked about a lot in the western press over the past few months, they said that these negotiations seem to be going on, lavra. says that especially after what happened in kurtshchyna, the possibility of negotiations with ukraine is almost zero, let's listen to what putin's ribbentrop says. after the attacks on the kurdistan region began, even invasions into the territory of the kurdistan region, about none there is no negotiation. and the president also said a very important thing, which i would like to hear about... the energy facilities of russia and ukraine, for

contacts to prepare for negotiations with the mediation of qatar, no matter what they say about any hints that russia will somehow be there involve, it's all from the sly, because i say once again, it's about the burgenstock process, which is unacceptable for us... mr. maksym, do you agree that this whole story with the kursk region, the deployment of the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of the region, and now more decisions about bans of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, that they simply put a cross on, well, at least in the near future, even possible ones. hypothetical negotiations of advisers or third assistants in qatar or elsewhere in another country? so of course

now... in this situation, this prospect is, so to speak, remote from any negotiations, although the situation on the battlefield continues to be at an impasse, so to speak, and so our offensive on the kurshchyna simply leveled our chances to a certain extent and does not allow putin to speak from a position of strength, in those conditions when russian troops slowly, but still about... in donbas, but here i think that this is the pause taken by the government in the person of the president and the leadership of the verkhovna rada and the servants of the people, i mean in support of this church law, it was largely still related to what was expected, obviously, both by our leadership and by our western partners, with whom

we should do so. coordinate their steps, so to speak, and which are an important part of the negotiation process, so i think that until recently there was hope that russia will abandon the tone and letter of the ultimatums, the last of which was given by putin about the withdrawal of ukrainian troops from four regions and so on, and only after it became clear that russia was not going to make any... compromises, russia continues to try to speak from a position of strength, ukraine allowed itself, and it was obviously allowed by our partners to do it, too, to hurt russia, that is, by entering the kursk region, by adopting this law on religious organizations associated with the aggressor country, ukraine with

for its part, raised rates. and, so to speak, put forward its demands quite radically and categorically, under these conditions, the possibility of negotiations has not disappeared, but these will no longer be negotiations in the wake of putin's ultimatums, it is obvious that moscow should reconsider its positions, whether it will be putin , or will it be someone else, if they have a change of power there, it's already so to speak... the question is technical, it's already clear that there will probably be negotiations someday, but they will no longer be dictated by moscow. thank you, mr. maxim for the conversation, it was maxim rozumny, political scientist, doctor of political sciences. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel. let's take a look at the interim results of our survey, today we are asking you whether the roc will stop its activities in ukraine after the adoption of the verkhovno law.

council of ukraine, so what are our interim results of the televised poll? 47%, yes, 53%, no. the same survey will be in the second part of our program, which will begin after the news release from our colleagues and from the bbc. in the second part of our our program will be people's deputies of ukraine, mykyta poturaev, volodymyr yatrovych and solomiya bobrovska. well, in the meantime, i want to remind you that until august 24, espresso is preparing a special project. bright people in dark times, interesting stories about heroic people, interviews with viktor yushchenko, svyatoslav shevchuk, serhii plokhie and much more, already at 10 p.m. a documentary film 10 years of war on independence day at espresso, from 8 am to midnight, be next to espresso and stay with espresso, we'll be back at the studio in 15 minutes

after a year and a half of discussions and disputes , the verkhovna rada banned the activities of the russian church in ukraine. what's next and how will it affect the believer. of the ukrainian orthodox church, which used to be called the church of the moscow patriarchate. this is the next 15 minutes of the bbc broadcast, jafer umerov works in the studio. spiritual independence from moscow. with these words , volodymyr zelensky announced a draft law at the end of 2022, which now directly prohibits the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine. the verkhovna rada voted for this one the bill is in the second reading, the document

is supported. had 265 deputies against.