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the air of the espresso tv channel. we are coming back, dear friends, one and a half hours of our participation in the marathon on the express tv channel. lesya vakulyuk andriy saichuk, we work for you in this studio. we remind you about our collection of 12 hryvnias, this is what we managed to collect this morning, dear friends, you still have an hour and a half, let's improve our result a little, because we have to reach an average of 50,000 per day, so that our defenders finally received drones and rep systems somewhere at the beginning of october, because in general we have to collect 3.5 million, we still have one 146 00 qr code, you see, it is there in the corner near andrii, well now we will talk about the united states, we have a guest in our lviv studio, a political and public figure of the united states of america, yuriy. rashkin, whom we

welcome to our studio, and the first question, what brought you to lviv and to ukraine in general, for this opportunity to be here, i am really very pleased to be here in person, and why i came to ukraine, maybe i am so dealing with how things are happening on the battlefield, and i came here, and in fact, i see on... i have seen from my own experience what it is, air alarms, right? in kyiv, i want to say that people are not so worried, because they understand that there are systems that do not cover the sky, but unfortunately, it is not enough. americans don't care about it, yes, their sky is completely closed and they can't, i, being there, i couldn't understand what it's like to be here. and when i came here and saw people

who remained in ukraine, maybe some had no choice to go somewhere, but the majority stayed like that, they joined the ranks of the army, and this is such a calling, you know, here you are you tell me that everything looks so quiet and calm, and i think to myself, when you return to america, you will be asked there, well, how is ukraine, it is in ruins, literally... recently we watched the series new amsterdam with andriy about the state clinic , and there, at the end of this series in the last season, there is an episode just about ukraine, when a ukrainian refugee finds herself in this clinic, a woman from mariupol, and such a funny moment, because they tell how this woman hides somewhere on farms, on some trains, and finally enough to get there to america, we understand that these writers do not fully understand what war is now. in the 21st

century, that is, it looks very, very beautiful , but this is where the conflict line actually is, but life in kyiv looks quite peaceful, not to mention lviv, won't it cool us down? americans who will say, maybe we help too much, they feel too good there, i don't think that the americans somehow question whether we need to continue helping the ukrainians, of course, the issue of corruption, yes, it is a rumor, but we never doubt that we should continue to help ukraine, yes, sometimes there are politicians who simply say, i would do it cheaper somehow, but this. it's strange to hear such statements, so when we look at ukrainian houses or american houses, i will tell you that if this happened in america, we would have complete ruins, because

the construction technology that is here actually gives the impression that you were preparing to such an invasion all the time, because we actually have such paper houses, you know these... pigs and a wolf came and blew and it all fell, yes people, people in america know that they have insurance if something happens, that is, they will pay and cover all the damages, here it is a completely different situation, but i, i would like to see, i wanted to see how people live, because we see the scale of the destruction, and in fact it does not occur to us how people can rebuild in such circumstances. keep living, moving, yes, people live, on the screen we can only see the events of the events on the battlefield, but i actually wanted to see how people help each other one, how they worry, now in the united states, you talked about the fact that there are

politicians who say, i will make this aid cheaper, and and probably somewhere such a narrative is coming, for example, from the candidate for vice president, vance, and... you are also a deputy at the local level in the state of wisconsin . this is a very big problem that we have in the usa, yes people who were born in the former soviet. so we will be with them forever, but this is not a reggae party for today, this is a completely different direction that they have chosen for themselves,

so it is really a small choice, we have to navigate the situation we are in, we have one party that is completely i lost my common sense. and i basically think that people who are in the republican party, they think, why are we even here, and there is a leader of the republican party, and he wants to be friends with dictators, and so even the members of the party don't even think about it, respectively, if we let's vote for this person, it turns out that ukraine will simply be handed over to putin, and we know what will happen as a result, so people who today... how do they think about ukraine, is ukraine still on the agenda, is it in the news, i think people in wisconsin, they

're living life in wisconsin, they're thinking about their economic issues, they're thinking about going to school, people are working, but they, you know what... when we have there was this gap in not providing aid to ukraine, they were really worried about it, and that's why at that moment we talked a lot about ukraine, then we adopted a package of macro-economic aid and military aid of ukraine to ukraine worth more than 60 billion dollars, at that time the issue of ukraine was already a little off the agenda, because ukraine should receive aid not only from the united states, but also from other countries. here. what narratives have been around us, so when we talk about the democrats now, i want to say that actually, if the democrats win, it will be very good news for ukraine, because the vice presidential candidate, who

said, in fact, the words that presidential candidate trump wanted to hear, that is... i want to bend to his expectations, and it's actually difficult, yes, because we're trying to explain what the vice president meant, and. so they appeal to reagan, but it's a completely different party, so it's a kind of vicious circle of talk, so in politics we often talk about what you understand, now we have to organize those who support you and let them go, even though the united states of america, but it is such a contagion that is everywhere, what it is now, what narratives russian propaganda, what does it press?

in russian, because i think that this is the right direction, because i think that for too long ukraine had problems with self-esteem, but now we faced the war, ukraine began to respect itself more, and if we, for example, compare ukrainians with... muscovites, yes, you understand, this is moscow, well, what kind of city is this , that is, i understand that cities are different, there is new york, iskonzem, just different cities, but people in russia, they, they are simply washed cities, they are being poisoned by this information or disinformation or conspiracy, that is, a person who listens to this russian propaganda, once i was simply asked. we talked, there was such an everyday conversation, a person was simply amazed that the earth is round,

in fact, a person in the 21st century was round, and here now there is a question, yes, about the abolition of the russian orthodox church, we understand that this whole church is only so successful fsb operation and when we say people please do something ban this church yes and again . at last the right decisions were made, thank you, i, if you come back now to your campaign, by the way, ukrainians are now very well versed in international politics, it seems to me that ukraine was sufficiently isolationist, not in the sense that it is on purpose, as it is called, but rather because it is not us were interested in foreign policy, today we are forced to monitor what is happening in... scholz, what is happening in the european parliament, and what is happening in the united states,

because america is the most important ally today, and we are all very afraid watched how biden's campaign is developing, today seems to be a relief, but on the other hand , we don't know much about kamala geris, what are her true views on ukraine, will she also continue the isolationist policy of the obama era? when was russia's role and weight underestimated? first of all, it's very important to understand that the next president of the united states is kamala, not kamala, but kamala haris, that's how we pronounce it, and again, we're all learning, so that's great. us policy on the international arena, for example, we

in america, we feel that we have one isolationist policy, party, in ukraine it seems that there are already two of them. yes, trump says that we don't need anyone, we have our own issues, we don't need allies, we just want to deal with every situation, every problem one on one. but you understand, sometimes it can be too expensive, when we talk about corruption, there's a total echo and echo in the us, so it's not an option, but when we talk about the democrats, yes, they gravitate more towards such isolationist policies, and so we we know how much can be different and at the legal level of flying. which is in each state. ukraine feels quite happy, it wants to be

an independent state, so it expresses its desire to become a member of nato, and yes, maybe it would be better if it happened earlier. and we know that again, for example, the situation in israel, yes, they have always supported the united states from the beginning, and we see that now this aid that they are receiving is precisely the consequences of such support. such a limit as to me, why is it important to continue the current policies, that the course we chose. as for me, i want to say. that besides, instead of saying ukraine won't get enough aid, yes we know that, it's very little and things like that, and that's how these words go around, but we can say, look, america gave it, but let's now build a concrete plan for the future, see how everything works together, and then

we will push and look for new, new, new ways to help, yes, ukraine can say. thank you for your help, we don't know where we would be today without you, yes, well, then, but, yes, us we want more, and we want to use your help, in the future, yes, we can say, yes, we understand, we are doing everything we can at the level of various organizations, various personnel and the like, we are all interested in the victory of ukraine. therefore, when we talk about, for example, if we are talking about biden, it would be such a cherry on the cake of his presidency, if it was possible to attract putin to the negotiations, because now ukraine has such a pretty good position, this is

the situation we live in, we can thread, we can complain, we can demand something more, but we... i want to emphasize that we will continue to support ukraine, i have no doubt about it. blinken said in one and the same gender, i will paraphrase here, ukraine must understand that we are here for a long time. and this is precisely the key phrase. and when we talk about peace, about building peace, i want to say that i am truly convinced that it is up to ukraine to decide when... what victory will look like for ukraine, and therefore, i think, the democrats, the party, or whoever, for example, people responsible for national defense and foreign policy, yes, they will support and adhere to these main principles, which is up to ukraine to decide, no one will push anyone behind ukraine's back, nothing

will be done, and therefore i am convinced that if there are such clear ones. now ukraine is waiting for permission from the united states of america to be able to hit the territory of russia with british stormshadow missiles. and so far there is no permission. how can this desire for the victory of ukraine be connected with such prohibitions. will this ban eventually be lifted? what are your feelings? it. then it's an interesting question, and when it's necessary to make some comment on a military issue, because i'm not a military person, i want to say that when i'm asked about something that hasn't happened, i usually answer that it will happen soon, that is, i feel that on some level we are really doing a very, very big job now, i understand that those

i have met. and with various representatives, strategists, it would be very good if ukrainian and american strategists, if they sat down together and talked about the fact that russia does not have such allies, no, it has clients, ukraine has allies, and precisely these allies, they should share the secrets to success, yes, this is a war of attrition, and we understand that democracy, only by following democracy we can see the light. at the end of the tunnel, when we talk about victory, how is russia waging war? they're just following orders, and we can see how simply impressed the american military strategists are with the creativity, the creativity of the ukrainian armed forces, with what they've done in the black sea, without having either atakams or storm shadow,

so yes, they use those resources, which they have, and they act, you see , as much as possible. another question i wanted to ask was asked by candidate vivek ramswamy until recently, so it seems, he is on ramswamy, and which republican was he, and he was called a populist, and he probably is, but anyway, he was distinguished by the fact that he made several, repeatedly made statements that were unpleasant for us, for ukrainians, regarding ukraine, in particular. he said that ukraine is not a democratic state, and we help almost the same one regime, like the one in moscow, but nevertheless, when... when, for example, the index of democracy in the economist comes out, and we see that ukraine is marked there in some yellow color, as a hybrid regime, we understand

that now there is a war, but is ukraine really doing enough to be its own, to feel like a part of the western world, or is it, or is it perceived as such, or should we do more for this? well, i think that people perceive ukraine as a democracy, because if it wasn't democracy, i think putin would have achieved everything, his own, a long time ago. you see, they can look for communication channels and the like, because when we talk about autocrats, they have such direct communication channels, so we now have complete proof that ukraine is not russia. of course, there will always be some certainty. excuses for those people who want to for some political or personal reasons and they want to stop giving aid and they

will look for any excuse in their favor. that's why it's so important to keep going grow, work for democracy. yes, i represent, i am a politician at a very low local level, but i understand my job, i understand how democracy works and... there should always be such a connection, feedback between people and politicians, there should be such a dialogue , because we have to develop such democratic, democratic muscles, because at a certain level there will be elections in ukraine, and then we will see what the result will be, but i am not so concerned about ukraine, why, because of the ukrainian people and the maidan, because ukrainians are unique in its own way, how much dictators lost elections, but did not give theirs. and at the same time there is

this horizontal structure of civil society, which is strong enough, but we also have institutions that, despite certain problems, are democratic, we have a very large, it seems to me, imbalance in the branches of government, and this is an issue for the future that ukrainians have. have to decide, in particular, regarding the presidential and executive and legislative powers, but we certainly have a problem with the establishment of political traditions, this, but this is what with the people of the post-soviet space who did not have their own states, probably everyone except the baltic states, there are elections, and we are also currently holding congresses. through the prism of the media, what will happen in the usa, i want to say that democracy, it must

constantly, it is not something that once and for all democracy, but constantly needs, people yes, people must feel that they are part of this democracy , it's like a vaccination, so there should always be a strengthening of the dose, and that's why when we have such periodic elections. we understand that we are actually in such a period periodicity yes, we should strengthen democracy, because there will be wars, there will be disasters, various calamities and the like, yes mr. yuriy, thank you very much, thank you, and the last thing i want to say today is that i would come here to thank you, thank you, first of all, to americans, to those who believe in ukraine, in ukrainian democracy, in the ukrainian people. i think a lot about ukraine, thank you for this faith and for this support, and i think that you will tell us there, so that even those starfshedovs will be allowed a little russian audiences in the territory

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