destructive there, kilometer by kilometer, it can destroy everything that is there, or not everything that it finds there, but destructive, that is why it can be said that putin can use something so small to show that he is ready and further escalation, so of course it would be important here for our diplomats and, for example, for our partners to say that, look, the budapest memorandum was signed, and if it comes to ukraine, you can fight there with conventional weapons, this is the right of ukraine. we help them you have your own weapons, much more, you are fighting, but if weapons are used in ukraine, we, within the framework of the budapest memorandum , will transfer to ukraine an equivalent amount of ammunition that will be used on the territory of ukraine, for example, we will transfer tactically from europe tactically, we will not ourselves , and let's pass it on, and i think that this is such a fuse, it would play a key role if our partners would say about it, there is nothing like that here, here about intentions to fulfill the commitments that were made. it would be long ago if it sounded, i

i think it would reduce russia's ability to use nuclear weapons by an order of magnitude, because of course, russia now thinks that ukraine doesn't have one, we have it, and this is our last such trump card, which we can always use, use it, if it were, then i think it would make them think a lot before doing something, by the way, the belarusian dictator oleksandr lukashenko, who has been rattling his guns for the past two weeks and saying that we will now bring troops to the ukrainian-belarusian border, because from there flying drones, it is meant from the territory of the ukrainian state, says that by attacking kurshchyna, kyiv can provoke moscow to use nuclear weapons. let's listen to what lukashenko said. similar escalation, similar escalation on the part of ukraine is an attempt to push russia to... symmetrical

actions, let's say, the use of nuclear weapons. i know, for sure, that in ukraine they would be very happy if russia used, or we are there, tactical nuclear weapons, it would be happiness. then we would hardly have any allies left, there would not be any, not even those countries that sympathize. how do you, mr. colonels, assess the possibility of expansion? the front is already along the lines of ukraine and belarus, due to this, can their army create problems for us, well , it means both the training and the number of this army, because lukashenko says that there are 120,000 soldiers in the armed forces on our side of the border, as far as i remember, the army of belarus, if i am not mistaken, consists somewhere of the order of 25-30 thousand. am i wrong, well, yes,

they have about that amount, well, i like how lukashenko says, we or the russian federation, that on his territory there, russia, as a nacha, we do not have this confirmation, and let's say this, placed nuclear ammunition, she placed them for herself, and belarus and lukashenko with their dictatorial, let's say yes, by the board, it is only a place of storage. munitions in a warehouse, let's say that for the russian federation, there is no right to use it, it is just a warehouse where russia, i repeat once again, keeps these dangerous ammunitions, so what he says that he will be able to apply, he will not be able to apply anything, because no one will give him such a right and opportunity, as for belarus itself, again, look, we cannot rule out anything in the war, but as of now, as intelligence says, what there are threats from belarus. not directly,

russia can use them, of course, again as a bridgehead, they generally use them as they want, to say that belarus is now a sovereign state, russia does whatever it wants with them, attacks neighboring regions, countries because of them, now to rule something out, and to say that no, belarus is sovereign there and makes its own decisions, we cannot do that, that is why they are a threat to us, the same as the russian federation, which we must pay attention to. thank you, mr. colonel. thank you for talking, it was people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, roman kostenko. friends, i would like to remind you that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live there, please don't forget to subscribe to our channels and also to our pages, as well as participate in our survey. today we ask you the following question: will the russian orthodox church stop its activities in ukraine after the adoption of the law by the verkhovna rada of ukraine? yes, no. accordingly, everything

is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you watch us on tv, you can vote by numbers if you think that er... the adoption of the law will stop the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, 0800 211 381, no, 0.800 , 211, 382, ​​vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with oleksiy hetman, military analyst, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. mr. major, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. good evening to you. major, can i do it right away, i'll start without. question, let's just talk a little bit, mr. colonel, he didn't emphasize some things about the use of nuclear weapons, two words literally, let's go, first, international, international law forbids the use, well, if a country places its

military there in accordance with some agreements in another country, that country, or who is the owner of the weapon is responsible for launching these missiles and is responsible for their safety and fully for their weapons ie. all service germany is not a nuclear country, there are nuclear weapons there, turkey has nuclear weapons, in other countries, that is, it is prescribed in international law, as well as nuclear weapons that are transferred to belarus, eh, belarusians have the right only to protect the perimeter, this is - first, because according to international law, and since the russians can and do not want to use this international international law, no one will give lukashenko or anyone else dispose of own nuclear weapons, who knows. it will be that he has where he will be cursed and where they will launch him, so here, so that he does not tell there, nothing like that can happen, and the last one is very short, e tactical nuclear weapons e can be used, but e combat charge , the nuclear charge is charged before launch, an intercontinental ballistic missile, a mine

there is different, they are already with a nuclear charge, and er, it is a tactical nuclear weapon, it is in warehouses and only before use it is loaded into missiles and... when the movement of these munitions from the warehouses to the missiles begins, we immediately record it, so far there have been no movements, no loadings, and according to our already given intelligence, it is not expected in the near future, sorry for that, and they record it countries that actually also have nuclear weapons, control the movement of nuclear, nuclear charges that are transported, it is clear that in a situation where putin and lukashenko declare... that there are some warheads, nuclear warheads, they are on the territory of the belarusian state, this no included in these agreements of international, international treaties, when it comes to states that possess nuclear weapons state,

declare and live by certain rules, i.e. the fact that putin uses belarus as a warehouse for nuclear weapons, and that is not yet a fact... said already kostenko, it's not a fact that there are these warehouses with nuclear weapons, but this is the one, yes, and the last one, that's all these missiles, iskander, x101, all these missiles, which used ballistic and cruise missiles, which are against us used, they can all carry nuclear charge, that is, they were developed for this, so to say that they put it there, you know, is so pathetic, they put in belarus, for example, missiles that can carry a nuclear... charge , they can all carry a nuclear charge, and the kh-101 and kh550 and the caliber and the dagger and everything else, except for these s300 and s400, they can all contribute to this , i expect, that is, you can load there a high-explosive cluster munition, a nuclear munition, what they loaded will fly, so they say that this is how to scare them, that they gave some missiles that they can

carry, yes, they initially the russians could do it they can do, well, that's absolutely correct, mr. major, president zelenskyi says that the ukrainian defense forces already control more than 1,250 km of the enemy's territory in kurshchyna and 97 settlements. let's listen to what zelensky says. ukrainian soldiers continue the defensive operation in certain areas of the kurdish region. today, our forces control more. than 1,250 km of enemy territory and 92 settlements, the strengthening of our positions, the stabilization of certain areas, and what is very important,

the replenishment of the exchange fund for ukraine continues. sir major, how long will the ukrainians be able to hold out and what... may be the consequences of the presence of ukrainian troops on the territory of the kurt region, and how it will affect the ukrainian-russian war and the front. well, it already is. affects how long we can be there, i think that until the end of the war, because by blowing up the bridges across the river, across this one, we made the sejm, yes, we made it almost impossible to attack our groups that are there, well, they are so fast and maneuverability, and the russians have nothing to attack there , what they collect there, 10, 20, or 30 there are different assessments, it will not be enough to do something there, we will conduct defensive maneuvers and we can do a lot there. so that they do not succeed in displacing us, we must hold these positions, we are starting to form a military camp there, because

we have, according to international humanitarian law, to provide food and medicine to these people, who are the civilian population, because everything is no longer working there , everyone has left, and if people want to eat, we have to feed them, how can it be it sounds strange, if they are sick, we have to treat them, if they need medicine, we have to provide medicine, well, this is water. to ensure that they have electricity, so that, well, slippers, in short, and a pension too , let’s have it, well, this international humanitarian law is nowhere near here, what kind of military, you know, it seems to me very much, it’s not quite right to divide exclusively, but what there is a military component, and what is a military-political component, and what is a military-media component, and what is an international component, these are all related things, and when we we cross out something separately, well , it may turn out that everything did not go as well as we would like, well, if

we exclude the purely military component, well , firstly, we forced the russians to withdraw troops there, and secondly, we that no less was canceled , well, not at best canceled, at worst they suspended the possibility of the teresians to attack the sumy, as they planned, taking into account the attack on kharkiv oblast, well, if things are connected, then the ruckus in the russian military command begins. arrests of generals are planned there, our actions from the point of view of ours international partners, they are encouraging, they are already encouraging, there is no such word, but fiction, to increase the aid and some countries that hesitated may join the aid, well , maybe it is not for nothing that the minister and the prime minister of india on the day of the 23rd flag should arrive in ukraine, it is unlikely that he will come with ultimatums, he will come, to report something about something, well, about something, i think... to agree on many such things that are

related, but what has happened now is that the commander there was removed with the kurdish military operation, put the fsb, well, other things to not to enumerate in a circle, then this also has an effect on the troops, on combat operations, on the results of the war, just break it down like this, well, you know, i used to be like that... the example is not a military one, they were taught how, well, it doesn’t matter what who taught what, but there is such a very interesting thing, when a person, well, a child, fell in love there foolishly, well, that’s what the grandfathers and great-grandfathers there told me, how can you dissuade a person from, well, the foolish love of a child’s youth there, so that not later don't be sorry, but you have to ask her... to ask two questions to this child who is growing up, you love this

girl, and he will say: yes, what exactly do you love most about her, and a person falls into a stupor, you the general picture, well, it can also be such a mean little thing from the point of view of parents , but immediately from the image from the general picture, you distinguish what can be clarified there, do you like the hands there more? legs or there are eyes or, that is, everything, and when you lay out the general picture on the shelves like this, then take something separately, and maybe it is not so, and what is very beautiful here are the eyes, but no, maybe the eyes are more beautiful, that is, and then general is lost picture, this is such a rather vile pedagogical move, well, i was told that if necessary, well, thank god, i have grown-up children, so i did not have to do such a thing, but the same thing can be done. maybe not the best example, but i didn’t find another one, because i didn’t prepare for such examples, but if everything that happened in the chicken

was laid out on the shelves, and how international is it there, well, what a great influence, was it possible do more and so on, and it will then be lost, let's say we have done a very powerful and very influential action, which in the complex will give many benefits in the future, not only. the mine fund, everything else, and will already give and will continue to give advantages in international relations, in destabilizing the situation in the russian federation, raising the morale of our troops, including people in the rear, who started there... how is it already there a depressive state begins in them, so, well, i honestly don't think it's right to pick up something and discuss it without connecting it to something else, well, that's not how it works, beyond all doubt, it's obvious, it's also obvious it will be necessary to see the development of this operation,

because we , ukrainians, are witnesses of only two weeks of fighting. in kursk region, we will actually see how these events will develop further, i hope that in the next broadcasts we will definitely analyze this in detail with you. thank you for participating in the program, mr. major, it was oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live, and of course, in addition to information about the situation on kurshchyna we are monitoring what is happening in donetsk region, the situation in the direction of pokrovsk, the enemy is advancing, but, as serhii tsekhotskyi, the press officer of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade named after yakov handziuk, says, the ukrainian army will not allow the capture of pokrovsk, despite the frantic pressure

from the enemy, serhii tsehotskyi said about this on the espresso tv channel, listen. unfortunately, somewhere we have to retreat in the sense that it is necessary to preserve personnel, that is , the life and health of everyone, even one claimant - it is very important, but when there are those moments that we should not approach, and pokrovsk is just such a city, because it is logistics, it is a combination, it is already such a symbol of the donetsk region, you know, the city of pokrovsk is there, and the residents , and the city itself is big and so on, i hope that the general staff is closely following this and plans operations in such a way as to prevent this from happening, it was serhiy tsekhotskyi, he is

the press secretary, the press officer, give the 59th separate motorized infantry brigades named after yakov handziuk. meanwhile, the american institute the study of the war reports with reference to geolocation footage that russian troops have advanced to the southwest of novoselivskyi, that is, southeast of kupyansk and southwest of andriivka, west of svatovoy. also, according to analysts, the russians captured a settlement southeast of pokrovsk and another settlement a little north of novozhelandne , in addition... in addition, russian troops advanced in the northwestern part of pavlivka to the southwest of ugledar. deep state is a ukrainian project that communicates its own in turn, the russian army occupied the border of the pokrovsky district of the donetsk region, boring and zhuravka, and also advanced near grodivka

and in zavitny, heavy battles for new york continue, well, a lot. information has been coming out for the last few days and a lot of different information, so we are trying to verify it and give you accurate information, because there is a lot of unverified information, and today i read in particular on social networks that in new york there is like ours control 20% of the territory of new york in donetsk region, to be exact information. it will be obvious already tomorrow morning from the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, we will find out what is actually happening there, well, in the meantime, the russians reported that after the entry of the armed forces of ukraine into the territory of kursk oblast, they created groups of troops, belgarad, kursk and bryansk, which are supposed to protect the territories from

drone attacks and other means of attack, come on... and this information indicates that the russians will apparently prepare new strike groups in the northeast, that is, ukraine, above sumy, and in the kursk region, and probably in the bryansk region, in the voronezh region, and also in the belgorod region, at the same time, as the bild analyst reports. yuliyan ryobke after the ukrainian attacks on the three main bridges across the sejm in kursk oblast, well , i mean techesh sejm in both kursk and sumy oblasts, this part of the sejm. which flows near the sumy region, but towards the kurt region, up to three soldiers may end up in kazan,

because there these bridges were blown up, and the military group is in a rather critical condition, again, all the information we will discuss how the events will develop in the next broadcasts, because... this is operational information that comes from the news feeds, and we follow it throughout the day. i would like to remind you, friends, that we are conducting a survey throughout the broadcast today and we are asking you whether the russian orthodox church will stop its activities in ukraine after the adoption of the law of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. today, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted a law on religious activities in ukraine. we are talking about religious ones organizations are connected with the russian federation, so we ask, will

the russian orthodox church cease to operate in ukraine after the adoption of this law? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, you can write your own comment under this video, if you have a separate opinion, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you believe that after the adoption of this law , the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine may stop (0800-211-381), no (0800-211-3822), all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of our voting. well, actually, this law, which was passed today, is better known as the prohibition law. activities of the russian orthodox church and today in the second reading during consideration in the verkhovna rada this law was supported by 265 people's deputies. what

does this law provide? this law provides that the russian orthodox church should be banned as a religious organization. the activities of all organizations affiliated with the russian orthodox church will be terminated according to a clear procedure. will include research, enforcement order the law and a court injunction. the russian orthodox church and its affiliated structures will not be able to use state and communal property. the transition of communities to the ukrainian local orthodox church will be simplified. and in fact, this transition can last up to 9 months, that is, this is a very long transition period from from the conditional existence of the uoc mp to the transition of the parishes to the orthodox church of ukraine can be approximately

nine months. further, those religious organizations that will not transfer to the ocu or declare that they do not cooperate, or they will not provide documents that they do not work with... with russian structures, which means that there will be an injunction through the court, but it is also interesting that today the security service of ukraine published statistics about how moscow priests work on the territory of the ukrainian state, how they work against this state, first a full-scale invasion against. more than 100 priests of the uoc and mp have been prosecuted, more than 100 priests worked for the russian

federation, almost 50 of them have already reported suspicion, and 206 have received, 26 received judicial verdicts, and this is also indicative, because in principle we understand that in the current situation it is quite active. russian special services work on the territory of the ukrainian state, the russian orthodox church was and remains the tool used by vladimir putin during this war against the ukrainian state, because it is a very large organized structure, a branch of the russian orthodox church, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, although in may 22- th year at its cathedral, this church or train. nization decided on the fact that they are a separate, separate church from the russian orthodox church, they have no

relation to the russian orthodox church, they... do not, but the fact remains that the priests of this church worked and apparently some of them continue to work together with the russians, because the fact that more than 100 priests in the ocp initiated criminal cases during the full-scale invasion, this is still a serious figure and indicates that russia... was and remains the country that influences the ukrainian orthodox church, ooc, mp , in that number through the russian orthodox church, but in this case, the security service of ukraine did not report, unfortunately, how many criminal cases were initiated against priests

in... the russian orthodox church, taking into account the fact that in the first year of russia's invasion of ukraine, we saw how the churches and monasteries of the russian orthodox church were used, er, by these russian, er, organized orthodox structures in order to, or hide there, er -er, russian special services, who... as it was on donetsk people were hiding in the premises of the church of the ukrainian ukrainian orthodox church, and of course there are a lot of questions about how this whole procedure will take place, and in what way the branch of the russian orthodox church, which has always been the ukrainian orthodox

church of moscow , will disappear from the map of ukraine patriarchate. perhaps these and other questions will be answered by maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences, mr. maksym, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, good evening, but zelenskyi names the law that was adopted today in the verkhovna rada, this is a law on spiritual independence, what will change in ukraine after the adoption of this law and whether? does this mean that the adoption of this law puts an end to the existence of a branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, and we understand that we are talking about a church that has a long history of cooperation with the russian orthodox church, it is the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, and what can hinder ukrainians get rid of this

church. i think we're in for a long period of that kind of uncertainty, that is, the law puts an end to the issues of legal entities, i.e. these communities, issues of property, but about which, which way these, religious organizations, these... priests and their parishioners will go, we can so far only predict, study the options, and obviously, that this process will be accompanied by some new decisions that are no longer within the scope of ukrainian legislation, that is, no longer within the competence of the verkhovna rada, for example, but within

the competence of others. centers of decision-making, let's say, recently this story appeared on the agenda, and they started talking about it talk about an attempt to get a second tomos, for example, er, parallel to this , another, but already such a very persistent appeal by metropolitan epiphanius of kyiv appeared. head of the orthodox church in ukraine to metropolitan onufry with a call for unconditional unification without preconditions and so on. all this signals to us that the road will be long, but i would call the adoption of this law such a point of no return, that is, for that church of that branch of the russian orthodox church.