the next collaborator with the mandate of minister makarenko is olena serhiyivna , born in 1968, originally from luhansk region. today, the government adopted a resolution on the remuneration of employees whose positions are not state-owned. after the occupation of luhansk region, makarenko immediately understood the rules of the russian world and began to realize herself in it. she quickly received the position of minister of labor and social policy of the fake lpr. the chair turned out to be so comfortable that the traitor does everything to make me... sit in it as long as possible. this is a large-scale event for the whole of russia. we, as a new region, for the first time we are voting for the president of the country, and we are voting for the future, for our happy future. votes for putin, talks about regular shelling from ukraine, popularizes russian programs among the local population. today, the government of the luhansk people's republic adopted a resolution providing for the payment of annual cash assistance until victory day.

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aggression in ukraine, and how can modi influence the situation? putin's nuclear hysteria: the kremlin dictator is trying to scare the world with the threat of an accident at the kurdish nuclear power plant. what does the fire control of the armed forces of ukraine over the station mean and will the russian blackmail stop with the help of the zaporizhzhya as. postponed personnel changes. in the ukrainian government. zelensky is in no hurry with the announced dismissals and appointments of ministers. what role does the cabinet of ministers play in the system of power, where everything is managed by five or six presidential managers? glory to ukraine. this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko. i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. over the next two hours. we are talking about

ukraine, the world, the war and our victory. first of all, i congratulate everyone on national flag day, tomorrow is independence day, and today an indian visited kyiv prime minister narendra modi and brought the peace plan to zelensky or his vision of the peace plan, about all this, about the visit to narendra modi and how ukraine is looking for ways to win over the russian federation. not only in ukraine, but also on the territory of the russian federation, we will talk for the next two hours. we will have two parts of the verdict today. the first part of our program will include people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko, military expert dmytro snigiryov and political expert volodymyr tsebulko. in the second part of our program, which will start in an hour, we will have a journalism club, a traditional journalism club that we hold every friday. kateryna nekrecha, maryna danylka. kermaleva will be guests of our

studio, and wait for their conclusions about her main weekly events that took place in ukraine and outside of it. limits, however, before starting our big conversation today, i suggest watching a video of how ukrainian fighters struck from the air at the russian platoon stronghold in kurshchyna, hit with high-precision american bombs, as a result of which the drone control center, electronic warfare unit, equipment and up to 40 invaders were affected, let's see it's great. video,

friends, throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey, we ask you about the following: will the transition of the uoc-mp parish to the ocu be accelerated after the adoption of the law? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you don’t have such a clear answer, you can, a separate opinion, you can leave it under the video in the comments, and if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for numbers, if you believe that after the adopted law, the transition of parishes from pcmp to ocu will be accelerated, 0.8 211 381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's first guest, oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, president of the committee of the parliamentary assembly

of the council of europe on migration and refugees. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, i congratulate you on the state day the flag mutually, mutually, mr. oleksii. let's start our conversation with the visit of the prime minister of india, narendra modi, give narendra modi, yes to rendra modi, to kyiv, today, for the first time in 30 years of independence , modi, the prime minister of india, let's say, came to kyiv, brought a peace plan , modi himself, after meeting with zelensky, said that... a month ago, he met with the head of the kremlin, vladimir putin, and tried to convince him to stop the war. let's hear what modi said. a month ago i visited russia and met with putin. i clearly stated to him that problems cannot be solved on the battlefield. the only way to resolve

the conflict is through dialogue and diplomacy. and that's why we don't need to waste time, we need to move in the direction of negotiations. mr. oleksiyu, on rendramod he talks about peace, about what peace should be, obviously he talked about it in more detail to zelensky, but considering that he first visited putin, and then came to kyiv, and putin's position is unequivocal , this is a plan, his peace plan, this is a plan for the surrender of ukraine, what kind of plan is the plan of the indian prime minister? i don't know, i don't want to here to remember on coffee grounds, unfortunately, at the moment i don't know that, and frankly, while this visit of the prime minister of india, from those statements, the results, what i see is more like, you know, an attempt by fashion to balance his trip to moscow,

to balance it with his arrival in kyiv, in any case it is good, because well tsmody is one of the key world leaders. india today is the number one country in terms of population in the world, a member of the g20, in terms of economic potential, and of course india is a very large trading partner of russia, and trade with china, india, that is, with these countries, primarily with these two countries, also gives russia the opportunity to continue the war and fill the budget. and that means killing us, so of course cooperation with india is very necessary for us, but also for now, well, from what i saw, this is more of a symbolic protocol visit, i think, although some

things may have been said there that we we don't know any messages that were sent one way or the other, although from my point of view, even if we talk about peace, er... then - i strongly doubt that there is at least some space for peace until the end and the wars, until the end, sorry, the elections of the united states of america, because putin wants to talk not with ukraine, not with modi, not with the european union, but with someone else, putin wants to talk with the usa, there is no one to talk to in the usa yet. well, that is, we can state today that it was a protocol visit, even a mirror visit, because we remember that when modi was in moscow, then it was the russian federation that struck okhmadite, kyiv okhmadite, and... this is all the story, the tragic story in kyiv unfolded before the eyes of modi, who communicated with

putin, and modi was reproached for meeting with putin at a time when the dictator was making such aggressive attacks on the ukrainian capital, how much was the economic factor and cooperation between russia and india, how much it is a strong argument. and it is in the current situation in order to force russia to go to some negotiations with ukraine or withdraw troops from ukraine, that is, how much influence can india have on putin? you know, the main question here is how much india wants to influence putin, india, for sure india could influence putin, i think that of course china has more influence, but india... is also a very important trade partner for russia, but here you have to understand that from this trade with russia india

also wins a lot, and obviously, let 's be honest, let's compare two visits, modi to moscow and modi to kyiv, modi's visit to moscow, his first visit after re-election, these are always significant things, always the first visit is important, and he demonstrated, second, that visit if i no... it was not fashionable to spend the night in kyiv, and his visit lasted less than a day in kyiv, well, if you look at the trade between india and russia or between india and ukraine, well, these are all incomparable things, so do you know now, i don’t want to do not underestimate this visit, it is very good that it took place, we still need to start talking with... i hope that those certain basements were not laid today, and this

must be developed, the situation will be, well, life does not end tomorrow, and we need to develop relations with this very important country, it in our country, such a person was on the periphery of ukrainian attention, and ukraine is on the periphery of india's attention, and this is wrong, but to expect something from this visit, which is now in fashion, will force putin to stop the war, i wouldn't believe it... i don't believe his word at all and i don't think that this can happen. against this background, mr. oleksiy, the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine is unfolding. for the third week already, the ukrainian army is moving forward. over 94 settlements are controlled by the ukrainian army, 1,200, over 200, 1,200 km of territory. we see putin's statements that ukrainians seem to

want to do something with the kursk as, and here is the reaction of the head of the magate, raphael hrus, who said in an interview with bloomberg that after visiting the kursk as, he will go to ukraine and hopes to talk with zelensky. grusi also explained the danger of hostilities near this station. let's hear what grossi said. it doesn't have a protective dome around the reactor, just a regular roof, which means that the reactor core is quite open, and when you add to that the fact that there are advancing troops nearby, objectively say, within the range of artillery, of course it causes great concern to me and to the agencies. mr. oleksiy, can putin resort to provocation and use russian weapons on the kursk nuclear power plant in order to blame the ukrainians and in this way

stop the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine in kurdistan? putin can do anything, but i think that, well, at least, so far he does not have such a critical situation, if the armed forces of ukraine had already taken control of the kursk as, then, to be honest, you could expect anything there, we are quite far... even from kurchatev, where the cs course is located, so i don’t think that there is such a risk today, and after all , everything is happening on the territory of russia, so it’s... just some extreme and i’ll probably feel it already there may be an operation and a step, so i think it is unlikely, but i repeat, you can expect absolutely everything from putin, but i think that here we need to tell us absolutely clearly money, everyone else, you are worried, well yes, maybe you will somehow it is russia

that invaded, that captured our zaporozhye a nuclear power plant, the largest in... europe, which is bigger than kursk and so on, so i would n't mind here, look, putin is trying to use kursk in order to, well, of course, he will try to do it, which kind of stops with the hands of the armed forces of ukraine money or the world community or something else, we certainly cannot do any of these here, and we have the full moral and legal right to do this in kursk oblast, just like in any other. instead of russia, what we consider necessary, and as far as we have enough, respectively, the strength for this. course operation, i will not evaluate it from a military point of view, i am not a military person, but from a political point of view, the kursk operation is an unconditional huge success for ukraine, we have again surprised the world, we have once again shown the strength

of ukraine, and this is very important in the world only the strong are respected, everything... that this is all talk, and we are with you, ukraine knows this better than anyone, unfortunately for the world, that all these agreements, budapest memoranda, words, concerns and everything else, all this, until the armed forces do not say their word, then all this is complete emptiness, we have shown the power of the armed forces of ukraine, again, and this is very important, it is very important, of course, for us, well, i repeat myself, the military, i am sure they know what they have to do, but i can't help but say it, very... it is important for us not to get carried away and not to miss a moment when the price of this will become too great for us. the main thing, i want to remind us here, 2.5 years ago the enemy was near kyiv, took kherson, was near mykolaiv, was near chernihiv, but we kept the armed forces and

the enemy was pushed back from kyiv, chernihiv, mykolaiv, kherson, liberated and so on further. therefore, it is very important for us to save. armed forces of ukraine and even any very cool, and i repeat, this is a very good and powerful and cool operation, at least political, i think, military too, but it should not be too expensive, because our human resources are limited, especially compared to our enemy, that's why we have to be very, very careful here, calculate carefully, etc... but i repeat, now i believe that this is definitely ukraine's success. and to conclude this thought, you know, if in boxing terminology, in our fight with russia, it is not a knockout, unfortunately, and it is not even a knockdown yet, but it is for sure, we earned serious points, points, on this,

it was russia who missed a powerful blow, and this blow, which russia also missed...we also saw our western partners, the united states of america allowed ukraine to use american weapons during the operation in the kursk region, announced this deputy pentagon spokesperson sabrina singh. let's hear what she said. we are beginning to better understand what ukrainians are doing in kursk. our policy allows them to engage in such counterattacks. ukraine is what it needs on the battlefield, because of different presidential aid packages, and that will not change. you know that our policy allows ukraine to fire back to defend itself against russian attacks that it is carrying out through this border region. this border region includes kursk and includes sumy, so they are defending against russian

attacks in that region. well, sing said at the same time that... in washington they still do not know all the goals of the ukrainian operation in the kursk region and reminded that zelenskyi had previously said that the offensive should create a buffer zone, in addition to a buffer zone that can to be created on the territory of the kurdish region, what other problems did this kurdish operation reveal in the administration of russia, mr. oleksia, well, classic, well, look, here is such a story, you know, theoretically, if it were some other country, the kurdish operation could topple the russian government , well, it’s an absolute shame, 80 years, not since 1944, has there been such a thing that an international... one recognized russian territory was occupied by another country, well , it’s a complete shame for putin, who is trying to pretend that he is not the first

in the world, but the second, well, if not the second, then the third, well, can you imagine that some piece of arizona was occupied or some part of china, well, it is simply impossible to imagine in principle, but with russia it turned out to be possible, all this shame with their conscripts, about whom... i told that they will not fight, and they do fight, they are taken prisoner en masse there, well, this is definitely another evidence that russia is an empire, but the empire is such a failed empire, a colossus on really clay feet, that's a fact, and so are we once again it was demonstrated to the world, and i repeat, in another country it would have led to the fall of power, well, russia, the mind cannot understand russia, and... here we see that, well , so far the question does not stand, although that too , well , we just don't know at what point it will all fall apart, uh, that this construct

of the putin regime will fall apart at some point is a fact, but when, like in a day, in a year, in 10 years, in 15 years , only with the death of putin, we cannot answer this question, but we have demonstrated the weaknesses of this system, obviously, both for the russians, and for the world, and for ourselves... once again, it is very important that this is such an uplift, well , let's be frank, ukrainians waited for victories, and a very difficult year, in which in we didn't have any successes, such big successes, it was difficult for ukraine and our allies, that's why we really needed such certain successes, and we definitely achieved them today, what will happen tomorrow, how will the situation develop? what will happen in 3-4 weeks, it's a war, it's a very dynamic situation, it's very predictable it is difficult, i repeat, at this moment russia has missed a powerful blow, will we be able

to bring it to at least a knockdown, well, i think we will try, but whether we will succeed or not is not a fact. well , let's hope that we will bring russia to a knockdown when the presidential elections in the united states of america actually take place. of his victory will resolutely support ukraine, let's listen to the candidate for the presidency chair. trump threatened to withdraw from nato. he encouraged putin to invade countries that are our allies. he said that russia can - i quote: do whatever it wants. 5 days before the russian attack , i met with president zelensky to warn him about putin's invasion plan. i helped mobilize more than 50 countries around the world to

defend against russian aggression, and as president, i will stand firmly with ukraine and our nato allies. mr. oleksiy, this is a serious statement by kamala garis that she will stand by... the side of ukraine and our allies from nato, despite the fact that i understand that the difficult conversation was with zelenskyi, she mentions 5 days before the big offensive, this means, probably, the munich security conference, so it is precisely about it, by the way, i've just seen kamala aris live twice, and both times at the munich security conference, so yeah, well, that's definitely a good statement, especially in light of other statements that... from other american politicians, let's say , well, but we can only watch here, we are observers in this situation,

we are waiting for who will be elected by the american people in november, whoever is elected, it is very important for us to build relations, and by the way, the elections will be very important, we talk a lot about the presidential elections, the congress and senate elections will be very important, there also a huge intrigue, who will... control the lower house, who will control the upper house, and this is all very important, so certainly after the us election there will be such a definite fork, this will be a moment that will determine that will continue to happen, because whoever wins these elections, us policy on this war will definitely change because kamal harris is not joseph biden, and what will those changes be? that is, either she will win or trump will, but the policy will change, and how it will change, what position the united states of america will take, will depend a lot, this is

the reality, because without american support. well, it will be so that, well , it is extremely difficult for us, i say this so gently, so as not to say more, so a lot depends on this, well, we will monitor the course of the presidential campaign in to the united states of america, on september 10, i would like to remind you, there will be a televised debate between trump and harris, and let's see what the dynamics of this election and this election campaign will be. thank you, mr. oleksii, for the conversation, it was oleksii. honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please take part in our survey, we are asking you today about whether the transition of the uocmp parish to the ocu will be accelerated after the adoption of the law, referring to the law on religious organizations adopted by the verkhovna rada of ukraine. so, everything is quite simple on youtube, yes, no, or yours.

the opinion you leave in the comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, grab your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381 if you think that after the adoption of the law , the transition of pcmp parishioners to ocu will be accelerated. no 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are available free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, dmytro snigiryuv is on the air. military expert, co-leader of the public initiative "prava sprava". mr. dmitry, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, thank you for the invitation. well, first of all, let's talk about the situation in kurshchyna. it is not so often that the general staff reports the details of how the situation is developing, what the dynamics are in the kurdish direction, but well, 93 settlements and

1,200... which are controlled by the ukrainian army, what does this dynamic of the offensive of ukrainian troops on the territory of the russian federation indicate? first of all, about the awareness of ukrainians about the plans of the russian military command, i will explain what we are talking about. information was received regarding the formation of an invasion contingent of the suju tactical group on the borders with the sumy region. information was received regarding further plans of the russian command, regarding a direct invasion of the territory of ukraine and a repetition of the kharkiv scenario in order to stretch the front line and distract operational reserves of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine to this section of the front, and there was talk of withdrawing operational reserves from the most dynamic sections of the front, and this is the donetsk direction, so when they are currently

talking about... about the fact that operational reserves have been introduced into the kurtsk region, and they are doing so it is with a reasonable face, i would like to note that the war was transferred to the territory of the occupier ukraine, and not in the sumy region , hostilities are taking place, and the ukrainian military is currently taking control of the corresponding settlements on the territory of the russian of the federation, or it does not take place near sumy, the distance from the dezhkord to sumy is 30 km, this... to critics regarding the nature of the military operations of the defense forces of ukraine, but let's move on. what does this indicate? about the low morale and fighting spirit of the regular units of the armed forces of the russian federation, the so-called contract soldiers, conscripts, border guards of the fsb, etc. currently , according to western intelligence , four to six brigades of the armed forces of ukraine are concentrated in the sumy region. and here

attention, and they are opposed even before entering the territory of the russian federation nine brigades of the armed forces of the russian federation. tsobtoy is talking about the fact that the defense forces of ukraine are advancing. with half the number of personnel, and , accordingly , the advance is of an operational nature, 1,300 km of the route were taken under control. territory, and it is worth mentioning that, according to military statutes, the attacking side should have an advantage in terms of personnel in a ratio of 3:1, that is, on the nine russian brigades that are currently on the defensive, the defense forces of ukraine should concentrate 27 brigades, no one talks about it, and why they don't talk about it, the question is what is currently happening in

kursk oblast... about expansion.