of ukraine, because it is no secret that in the last six months very often completely inadequate articles were published in the western media, when they wrote: everything, the ukrainian army is retreating, everything is bad, the russians are taking the donbas there, without explaining that this happened just after these six months delays with weapons, due to the fact that the american congress delayed giving us a package worth 60 billion for a very long time, they forget to tell about it, and whether some, for example, packages... reached the ukrainian army, the ukrainian front line with a delay, this also influenced the course of hostilities. next, what is important, you know, this operation very clearly demonstrates that russia does not need russia itself, it does not need russians themselves. this is putin's reaction to the flurry of these social issues, because look, now the situation is such that russia has its own refugees, according to the latest data, i looked at about 2,000 people. they don't want

to be there in the war zone, they are already asking their government, and what should we do, where should we run, and the russian government does not offer them anything, because these telegram posts from margarita simonyan "we are praying for you, kursk", well, they look inadequate, and you know, the entire unconscious world, western analysts see that russia is not needed, even the region where people live more or less unconsciously, have brick houses. plots of land, but they have more joy when they destroy donbas, which in general is a part of another state, well, that is, this is the true face of russians, and not what you read there in chekhov and dostoevsky. and one more important point, we also need a rate hike, because, look, putin raises them all the time, he includes these nuclear threats with a nuclear threat, that we will drop a nuclear bomb on one or another, well, on us too. it was necessary

to raise them, and it was also such a game, by the way, western analysts are already writing to approach future negotiations and say: look, we have the territory of the kursk region, maybe there will be some exchange for some similar territory, for example , there is the south of ukraine, which, unfortunately, is also under occupation, well, let's see what it leads to, again, look, i don't want to talk something extra, and i would like only one thing... great success to mr. syrsky and to all our forces that are engaged in the kurdish direction. i can say that there are excellent forces involved, all our glorious brigades, which have shown themselves admirably during the 11 years of war. great forces are entering the territory of the russian federation, but against this background, the vice-prime minister of ukraine iryna verschuk says that it is necessary to save russians, civilians, and open a humanitarian corridor for them,

it is clear that this is obviously connected with by the fact that ukraine wants to look like a state that adheres to all international norms and conventions, and vereshchuk says that russia has not yet turned to ukraine or the red cross with a request for a humanitarian corridor, but ukraine is ready to open this humanitarian corridor, let's listen to what vareshchuk said, as of today... yesterday this was confirmed by the general staff. russia did not appeal, it actually abandoned these people and does not deal with them. our guys, the military, feed, provide food, provide water, all medicines, all the necessary assistance for life support. but, i'm fixing this one again fact: russia did not apply, and the icrc also confirmed this. mk. is the international

red cross. katerina, how do you feel about the idea of ​​creating such humanitarian corridors. well, i, for example, as a person who was born and grew up in the sumy region, i know very well what is happening now in the sumy region, but literally two weeks ago, two cabs flew to my native school, which i graduated from, in which i studied , and this is a rather difficult situation, such a person. to the people of sumy and the people who live in the territory of sumy oblast, because this is a humanitarian corridor will pass through these villages, which are now half-ruined, there are yunakivka, khotyn, mogrytsia, many, many of these settlements that suffer from shelling, including my native stykskivka, how to be civilized and a civilized country, and at the same time, well. .. pay tribute to the russians, who

are accomplices of this war crime by putin against ukraine? my colleague, roman pagulych from the donbas realia project, was in it. tour this week and there in his report, and one of the locals there in the court, it was somewhere in the kurshchyna area, he said that i, in general, well, they asked him, what happened when the war started for you, well, for them it started on august 6, and besides, they, he says: but i decided crossfords, i am not interested in politics, i was engaged in crossfords and that's all, and it looks obvious as it is not entirely true, because... you said the truth, it would be difficult in sumy region not to notice, not to hear what is happening in the neighboring russian region, well , people are definitely talking about it somewhere on the benches there, but, that is, not enough yes, the fact that they are classmates, well, that is not proven, ukraine must follow the observance of all

international geneva conventions, and ukraine already and the ukrainian military already show a huge difference between what... is russian occupation and what is ukrainian occupation, we even speak in such terms, and also very very this is an important point, it is necessary to adhere to these norms, the military also talk about this, in the interview, the military also told me how they literally share their food, what mrs. iryna veryschuk says, and there with their water, their food, a ukrainian military doctor comes there on schedule once every few days in order to... to help russian citizens who need medicine or something else, an important point about whether russia really does not make corridors there and whether russian citizens who the suji remained there, for example, yes, they cannot leave, because there is a curfew there , we understand, but there is also evidence

that it seems that there are still places through which you can get out and leave for the territory controlled by moscow, that is, is there a need just like that... for people to arrange these corridors, this was doubted by, for example, roman kostenko, a people's deputy, we remember him, he was in kurshchyna, he was also on the air, and at the beginning of the week he talked about his experience, he says that there are ways by which people can leave, those who wanted to, those who could, those left, those who stayed, there is no danger for them yet, well, there is no offensive of russian troops, for example, another question, you are telling the truth about what situation sumyshchyna is in, and another question we can now see how on pokrovsky direction, at what pace. this week, the evacuation of the local population from mirnograd, from pokrovsk took place and people are being persuaded to leave altogether, people do not want to leave until the very end, these children and their families are being taken away, these are terrible things that are already happening, that's it, what is evacuation, here are some other questions,

by the way, to mrs. iryna voreshchuk, because we have been trying to contact her for a comment all this week, because there are questions about kurshchyna and evacuation from there, and due to what is happening with ukrainian citizens from..., are they being evacuated on time, are there any changes to the legislation needed so that children can be taken out of the war zone earlier, also at the beginning of the week the situation may have changed, i asked roman kostenko then whether he knows something about the fact that some russian citizens have already used this corridor and may already be somewhere in sumy oblast, well, he said that he does not know such information, for example, although there are some rumors that some russian citizens may already be there. .. were evacuated, there is currently no confirmation of this. marino, what are the threats posed by the existence of such a humanitarian corridor or the establishment of such a humanitarian corridor, because we are talking not only about the residents of the suzhan district, which was once part of the ukrainian state, or the ukrainian ssr, but

also ukraine, but we are also talking about the fact that a lot can pass to ukraine along with this humanitarian corridor. versants or people who will arrange provocations on the territory of the ukrainian state. first of all, i want to say that any idea dies when it is spoken voiced by iryna veryschuk. the fact is that iryna veryshchuk has more than one voiced statement behind her shoulders, which then turned into a complete collapse. and it seems to me to release into public communication a person who, we remember, on the eve of a full-scale invasion. in literally a week, she promised such problem-free shuttles through chongar, when she is now talking about the fact that let 's accept russians here through the humanitarian corridor, logically, people have such a connection that i don't want to go to chongar anyway

it would not have turned out that way with the sumy region, which with huge battles, losses and destruction, fought back from - the happiness of the occupation of 2022. spring and now it is still destroyed near the border, suffering, and unfortunately, unfortunately, we will no longer see a number of our villages and towns, in the usual form, as we knew them before 2000. in the 22nd year, it seems to me, and if the ukrainian state, even for proforma, even for international organizations, had such an idea, it was absolutely not iryna veryshchuk who should have done it, because this idea will no longer take off, will not work, because it was voiced by a person who did not copes even with the flow of our ukrainian refugees. just the other day , information was announced that the ukrainian city of myrnograd, which is already under fierce fire there. panty, where there is huge destruction, there are a thousand ukrainian

children left, well, it is clear that some of the children may not have very responsible parents, and iryna veryshchuk's task would be to take care of ukrainian citizens, so if she has extra resources, extra space , where these people and children can be placed, then let her take better care of ours, and the second point, which ones threats are... this potential corridor to sumy oblast, you know, this is the classic stockholm syndrome, when they want to lock both the victim and the rapist in one room. in the role of rapists are russians, in the role of victims are residents of the sumy border. another very important point, you know, our people know how to use the internet and enjoyed these videos from the territory of the now de-occupied kurshchyna, and it is very clearly visible there. russians, especially russian women, who openly talk about

the fact that their husbands are currently in the svo in donbas, that is, they are now taking part in these battles, in this terrible offensive that the russian federation staged, they are killing, including husbands and sons, many women, residents of the same sumy oblast, who stay at home and manage the economy, and so on people we are offered to accept. to warm up, i don’t know, to share food there, that’s not a very adequate solution, and you know, it seems to me that if the ukrainian state wanted to somehow turn this situation around for good, then it’s absolutely no secret that our biggest catch there, as they themselves joke the military, this is a catch of crucian carp, who are the crucian carp, these are guys, russians, who are just serving their military service, and now they have been captured en masse there. and this is a very valuable resource for our ukrainian exchanges. for the first time, if not

the first time, in recent times, there was an opportunity to exchange this resource and these conscripts and akhmatians for, by the way, those azovians who have been in captivity for a long time. and it seems to me that it would be more profitable if we invited some mothers to kyiv, and if these mothers publicly said on camera that putin is the occupier and asked to be released. their sons, and for this action the ukrainian state could even pay for this family of mother and son a ticket to some third country, this is how we should work, not promises, we are here for you, you are here bombing us, you are here here destroying our usual life, please come and settle, we remember that, unfortunately, on the territory of sumy oblast, we have districts and cities where they like this kind of rhetoric. where such an unknown deputy as andrii derkach bred ruskamiria there, and i would not

like ruskamir people, even in prospects of post-war and placed more on the territory of the ukrainian border. well, i absolutely agree with you, and in this situation, of course, in a single status, i would like to see the residents of russia in the sumy oblast in the status of people who, like the germans once did after the second world war, will return. but what was destroyed by the fascists, that is, the captured germans rebuilt, including in kyiv, by the way, they rebuilt part of the left bank, that is, for them to rebuild what their army is destroying and their president is destroying, then it would be absolutely fair, and all the more so in the current conditions the war is not yet over, and therefore it is not clear what to expect from the russians, because the russians are our enemies and aggressors. thank you... colleagues participating in the program, maryna danyliuk yarmalayeva, kateryna nekrecha, were guests

of our program today . we wish you all the best on independence day, and most importantly, victory for all of us. well, friends, i will remind you that during our broadcast we conducted a survey, we asked you about whether, in your opinion, the transition of the uocmp parish to the ocu will be accelerated after the adoption of the law by the verkhovna rada of ukraine. so there are the results of the tv poll, 40%, right? that is, most of us are pessimists that the parishes of the uoc mp will transfer to the ocu. well, friends, i want to remind you that we will have august 24. petzproekt bright people in dark times, interesting stories about heroic people, interviews with viktor yushchenko, svyatoslav shevchuk, serhiy plokhie and much more, already at 10 p.m. on august 24 the documentary 10 years of war, and watch all this on espresso during independence day , we work for you, i put a full stop on this, it

was the program verdict provii serhii rudenko, goodbye, take care of yourself and your loved ones. greetings to all of you, today solomiya chubai is with you on radio fm halychyna and on the youtube channel i can hear you, we are talking about a topic that is also very painful for me about abuse in relationships, violence and abuse, and today i have a guest ... olga, lychko, parobochka, and we are talking about how to understand what abuse is, what it is, how psychologists interpret it, can we use the word abuse in the ukrainian language at all, i think we can, well for now , while we do not have any definition of our

ukrainian, why can we, because the concept abuse includes various types of violence. that is , violence in general, when we talk about violence, very often the first thing that comes to people's minds is physical violence, violence is of various kinds, of various plans, and psychological violence, which, if you can't see it, sometimes you can't even hear it, yes, but it present, therefore abuse is such a general, very extensive name, which applies to all these types of violence and it is more clear then that it is about... some kind of violence in general, not only physical. i would like to talk with you today about violence, actually this abuse in a relationship: a man and a woman, even if it is a couple, and they are, for example, single, or if it is a couple, because i am interested, i was married for 19 years, and only after getting to a psychotherapist, i realized that i am in an abusive

relationship, before that i was not aware of it in principle, i thought that i was just bad, i didn't deserve better. of course, it stems from childhood trauma, and does the victim generally understand that she is in an abusive relationship? not always, and you know, i don't really like the word victim either, although here i think it is up to us to determine if everyone's position in this relationship, well, let's use this word, but the victim is not really me. this is simply a person who has had the experience of such a relationship, because the word "victim " is such a harsh word, so returning to your question, a person does not always determine that he is in this relationship, he does not always understand what is actually happening, but there are various reasons for this, some of which you

have already listed, first of all, it is probably... a model of family relations, if the child is sees violence in the family, again violence, we don't talk, we can also talk about beatings, it's obvious, and physical, but here actually for me these subtleties of such a psychological thing are important, because it, as you said at the beginning, it is invisible, how to define it, the violence that is invisible, as you say, and i support that for many people it is exactly... it is, it can be expressed in different aspects and everyday life, well when we about a couple, and devaluation, for example, but when we talk about respect as such, each a person has his own definition of respect, and for you respect can be something, for me something else, a third person will name his criteria of respect for himself, and things that

humiliate, devalue, everything that affects the self-esteem, actually the self-worth of another person, and somehow, well, yes, i don’t know how to say, it discolors it, yes, it somehow suppresses it, all these are exactly the subtleties that we analyze in the psychological process already with the client, because in general we simply will not be able to say and list everything , well, because this is really a lot, all i can i can do that from my example, i remember. i started drawing there, and my ex-husband said: listen, you are drawing this, go paint a fence, or, for example, you went to the gym, because i, well, i am always fighting with my excess weight. uh, go sprinkle the garden, and this too, well, i also consider it such an abuse, and when we too, i sing, and he said, you are already too old

to sing, that you made this up, you will soon retire, calm down and sit down, and then it seems that i gave such double references, i, i, i support you here, allegedly, here or there, for example, he allowed himself heaps. a lot of things, because i earn, and i am in charity, and what did you earn, you, excuse me, earned a lot, or, for example, you, the mother of a child, i have a child with autism, it is you who should go to psychologists, psychiatrists , have fun here in your trains and something else there, play around, and here i am doing serious things, i earn money, it was a frank abuse, which, to be honest, i did not understand at all, and i had to go through many years later psychotherapy so that i understand, because everyone says why did you break up with him, for example, because

they said he didn't beat you, he didn't beat you, there was no violence, he earned money, earned, cleaned the yard, repaired the car, that's all right, a very common formula, by the way, people from the outside, they don't see real relationships, which are like this, yes, which are going on, the guests don't see it either, because the guests who come to us. everything is fine, he is polite, he is that, he creates a picture, today we have a difficult topic of abuse and violence in relationships, maybe you had an abusive and violent relationship in families, how did you get out of this, and if you are still in them, then we can be a helping hand for you, share with your friends and acquaintances with relatives, subscribe to our channel, like and like, i was very touched, recently watched relationship, that she is to blame for herself, why is she sitting there in

that relationship, and this is such cruelty, like on me, because in fact, well, i say that a person does not understand how, can we blame at all a person who is in these relationship, that she is guilty of this, definitely not, it is such a thing the concept of victim behavior, you know these conversations that something happened there, someone was attacked somewhere, and why did she leave so late, there yes, and what there, well, that is, the blame is transferred to the victim, well, again, this word, or to her, or they say, for example, if a man hits, well, why couldn't you sit quietly, why did you open your mouth, you don't know why you contradict him, keep quiet, how did he come there after drinking, that you can't where to put eyes and? give him the kidneys so that you don't know how he loves, and this is also like that abuse from the side, this is such a humiliating moment that really, again drives this person,

who has such a difficult experience of violence, drives even deeper, then she really thinks, yes , i'm guilty, i'm doing something wrong, i deserve it , and so on and the like, actually all these things , well, they talk about the fact that a person does not see a lot of things, and he needs to... povo's eyes are open to everything. the first metaphor that comes to my mind is probably about, you know, there is such a metaphor, the frog in the boiling water. ugh. yes, it is like the moment when they take a frog and put it in cold water, and then it is slowly heated. what's going on? the frog does not feel discomfort from the beginning, but it is in such a fairly acceptable atmosphere. the water is gradually heating up, and it's... imperceptible, and this threat is imperceptible, exactly the same thing is happening in abuja, that is, gradually, well, this is how it builds up, you know, a general

picture inside these relations, usually it happens really gradually, well there are various cases when this happens at first, but what i hear from clients is usually that it is gradual and through they say, well, it wasn't like that, i somehow didn't notice, i... didn't understand what it was, because that abuse is very often, as you have already noticed and said, it is disguised as care, when you are in families, come there, come there, that means i, you should have come on the 7th, you said that you would come on the 7th, if you were already 10 minutes late, yes, in fact, and you yourself are visible in the fact that you brought me to this to this to this is already a continuation of all that, yes, that is, it is disguised. if control is disguised as care and some kind of choice, the environment is also disguised as something worry, at some point, oh, these are your girlfriends, they are not there as they should be, you see

that they are there in life before... well, that is , a lot of things are devalued, well, gradually, gradually, and that's why people usually do not identify it right away, so if we talk about red propoles, they are generally those red proportions, so as not to enter into such a relationship, there is from the beginning there is, for example, well, we start by not entering into that relationship, so good, at the moment dating and. what we must notice, we must notice the disrespect of man to others, this you know, how can it be expressed, not to think about the fact that he loves me and he will treat me differently, does she love me, by the way, women too, well, abuse is not gender, there is absolutely no gender, and this is such, this is such an extensive concept, ugh, but

red thoughts have gone astray. red flags, yes, look, respect, that is, it often happens, you are my queen, everything for you, bouquets of flowers, a taxi to the entrance and all that, but in the restaurant we see a completely different picture, disrespect to the staff, and to , for example, waiters, rude behavior like that, it should alert you right away, i mean i'm the queen and these people, well, service staff, an inferior race, how does that look, eh? in the same way , things that anticipate some events, i love you, i am ready to get married, for example, tomorrow, you are everything to me, yes, you are my world, yes, this is also such a thing, you know, it undermines, especially people with low self-esteem, that is, that i am important there, well , now let me in a female role say so, i am important, i am significant, i mean i

am loved. this is all it wings, and a person from low self-esteem, she actually really needs it, and this acts as a kind of hook, you know, for her, and for example, the abuser can still, because before my marriage i was also in such a difficult relationship, where, for example, my family i didn't support me there, let's say in music or something else, he was very supportive in the fact that i was writing some kind of poetry, music, and then he said, well, i know that in... you have a deficit of attention, for example, but i didn't give it to you, because, well, because i saw that he manipulated you like that, that is , a person who was somehow familiar with psychiatry, in psychology, also usually not necessarily, but it somehow works, you know, so at the sub-seatal level, what can i influence, where can i press, this is this manipulation or on the feeling of guilt, or again, this is not the same, insecurities, here i am... to get out of abuse, here's how

to get out of it, getting out of it is more difficult than getting into it, that's for sure, because the way i gave this example with the frog in the dill, look, in the frogs in dill, when she already understands that the temperature is very unacceptable, but she already has no strength at that moment jump out, exactly the same with a person in abuse, in fact, being there, constantly suffering... and taking absolutely all the devaluing things that are applied to them, the person begins to feel some kind of, you know, worthlessness, sometimes just such feelings arise that i'm not enough, not too good, i'm not worthy, i don't deserve it, that is, it's also the man's fault, that i 'm not up to something, i'm

guilty of it myself, i'm up to it myself , but which, by the way, also helped me get out of my marriage and, in principle, from a toxic relationship, in we have a great program that has a lot of ratings, toxic parents, please check it out, we will also write about boundaries with toxic parents, that's important too, but when i realized that my life is my life, it's mine responsibility, and i learned to love myself, and we also have a youtube channel, i am you. i hear about self-love, because we actually start with this, because a person who basically respects himself, who loves himself, who values ​​himself, knows who he is, knows all his minuses, knows all his pluses, he mostly, it seems to me, he won't allow it, so everything you said, i'll add only this is how a person should actually become, or is it better...