those deputies who are under a certain preventive measure could not use this tool, because in the conditions of war, it is really very dangerous for state security. and finally, as for dmytruk, dmytruk went abroad, if you believe me, he is there. i understand correctly that the parliamentary institutions of other countries, official structures, and church structures continue to perceive him as a deputy of the verkhovna rada and a representative of the verkhovna rada abroad, because he is not deprived of a mandate, therefore his word. yes or otherwise will have influence for example in the topic there uoc-mp, which he defends? yes, of course. i thank you for joining. roman kolyukhov, a lawyer at the anti-corruption center, was a guest of svoboda live, we talked about people's deputies of ukraine who are abroad, continue, as lawyers say, to receive salaries from the ukrainian budget and can continue to conduct their activities, although proceedings are open against them here . and from people's deputy dmytrouk, who is an active party. bcmp, now let's move smoothly

to the church itself. so, the pope reacted to the ban on religious organizations based in moscow in ukraine. he says that the church cannot be touched. let's listen to the words of the pope, which the information resource of the vatican, vatican news, cites. a person does not commit evil because he prays. if someone does evil against his people, then he will be guilty of it. but he cannot do evil because he... prayed, so let those who want to pray pray in whatever church they think is theirs. please, let no christian church will be canceled directly or indirectly, churches cannot be touched. the verkhovna rada adopted the law on the prohibition of religious organizations with a center in moscow, in particular in the pcmp, a week ago, it was voted on in the first reading back in october 23, and since then the document has been constantly...

improved and even though it looked like that it would not be possible to collect votes for the final vote of the parliament, because not all the servants of the people were ready to vote for him, 265 were found. sources of the left bank in the verkhovna rada wrote that august 13 took place a zoom meeting of the servant of the people faction chaired by zelenskyi himself, and the president said that this is an issue that must be voted on. and so it happened, therefore, from the moment when the law enters into force, the uocp communities will have nine months to... to sever ties with the russian orthodox church, although earlier zmi reported that in the united states of america , according to the decision of the ukrainian parliament on the ban of the russian orthodox church and rusk vamir's ideology had some critical reactions from a number of officials and observers, in particular he wrote about it the voice of america, the council of ukrainian christian churches of the american state of washington declared its support for the decision to ban the russian orthodox church in ukraine. instead, in a comment to the public , the head of the information and educational department of the uoc mp, metropolitan kliment, said that this

law applies to religious organizations affiliated with foreign centers, and the uoc, according to him, has no administrative ties with such. is it true or not, we continue to talk with our guest, svoboda lai oleksandr drabynko, metropolitan, joins the broadcast pereyaslavskyi and vishnevskyi. i congratulate you. glory to jesus christ, good and peaceful evening to all. thank you for joining. let's start with the pope's reaction, was it expected or unexpected, or did it come as a surprise, that is, despite the russian war and the dangers that... as the ukrainian authorities say, the uoc poses for ukraine, the pope opposes the banning of this church, why? the fact is that this is not the first reaction of the pope to this kind of legislative initiative, and what is happening in ukraine, unfortunately, i understand that the pope uses those the narratives brought to him, the fact is that no one bans the church in ukraine and has not banned it and... the legislative

initiative that was adopted and signed by our president, it does not concern the church as a spiritual institution, which contains the symbol beliefs, dogmatics and everything else, it applies exclusively to legal entities, each of them up to 10,000 today is in the structure of the so -called ukrainian orthodox church, not the moscow patriarchate, as they call themselves, and each of them must... prove his non-involvement and non-affiliation with the moscow patriarchate. no one, no, we cannot talk about persecution for the faith, as bishop klyment also speaks about it, as they speak about it in the ukrainian orthodox church. there is no persecution of the faith and the church, there cannot be, because this is how we really live in a free state with european values ​​that we must respect. but there is, just as a person

consists of a soul from a body, so there is an external structure, this is a legal entity and a legal state, which is subject to state registration. and he just concludes his own, regulates his relations with the state, these are economic and the rest of the points that do not concern our religion, religion in ukraine and the church as such cannot be prohibited, and no one forbids it, political and para-political activities that are possible are prohibited in these religious organizations, as well as legal entities, and not in believers, as in orthodox believers who profess the creed and dogmas of the orthodox church. i would also like for you to continue your point, so you said about the fact that apparently the pope relies on those narratives that are brought to him, you want to say that

there continues to be a powerful russian influence in the vatican today. well, we have known about it for more than a year. and how to deal with it, how to influence it? well, i think we have it there. is the representative and diplomat yuras, who is the ambassador of ukraine to the holy see, i think that he should at the diplomatic level bring these narratives to the ears of the pope himself and to the diplomatic corps that represents the vatican on the world stage i know that with our ambassador of the vatican in ukraine , er... er, very constructive relations, and what he conveys to the pope's ears is not quite accepted there, sometimes it is adequate, i also know about that, well no no from direct sources, but from the sources that i have, and one

would like it to sound much softer than what archbishop kulbokas conveys, and this influence he maintains, why, because russia is financially somehow it... pours , why this influence continues to persist in the vatican, is there a huge number of originators, for an example from the russian federation, which has always supported the russian orthodox church there, how does this influence manifest itself, how can it be preserved, in what way? well, it is difficult for me to answer this question, but russia, the russian church, since 1943, when it was a diplomatic structure created by stalin in order to appear on the international stage, precisely with the vatican, and went hand in hand with... . we know very well what kind of relations nikodym rotov had with the vatican, a well-known figure who is the teacher of the current patriarch of russia, that is, what his laid hands on him and in fact gave him career

growth, that is , there was always an orientation towards the vatican, and the vatican always, as i understand it, looked at the stronger one, and russia, after all, this is enough for today... a consolidated and strong political player with whom the vatican , as a state, not only as a religious church, a center, but as a state, it is worth, i understand, to maintain some connections, and i do, well, in my opinion, they do not want to be in a certain loss, if god forbid something will not turn out the way they would like, and russia has always been a priority a platform for the vatican, because it is... we are establishing communication, communication problems, considering how powerful the attack of russian forces on the territory of ukraine was today, we know about the blackout, so in recent months it is normal when the connection disappears,

thank you for coming back, yes i am there, yes you said about 140 million, obviously in the russian language, 140 million russian citizens and... today we see half-empty churches on easter in the russian orthodox church and full squares muslims on the muslim holidays of ramadan or on any of her other holidays, which are filled, that is, for the vatican, i understand that russia today is a platform for the preaching of christ, if the russian orthodox church, due to its obstinacy and that kind of... pan-slavicism, remained on aside from history, i think so, i think that the vatican is counting on the fact that it will be able to spread its influence on the territory of russia. i have one more question, it concerns the fact that the head of the information and educational

department of the pcp, metropolitan kliment, declares that the law, which was adopted by the verkhovna rada and signed by president zelenskyi on august 24, applies to religious organizations that are affiliated with foreign centers, and the uoc, they say, according to him... you know how difficult it will be to prove the connection of the uoc imp with russia today? vladyka kliment and i are on one of ours. at our debates a few days ago, they aroused, as i understand it, quite lively interest, interest in society, they talked about this topic, bishop kliment for some reason does not separate the legal existence of religious organizations and canonical law, and canonical law, as i said, it always affects ee, on the status of a legal entity ee. here , the dss headed by zelenskyi should already work on this topic. at one time, the commission

, which was working, made its own conclusions about the involvement of the ukrainian orthodox church, about its affiliation to the moscow patriarchate. how will the event develop further? it's hard for me to say, because each individual case will have to make a separate court decision. well, i think that is important. the principle of precedent is very important the question is, if the ukrainian orthodox church does not break ties with russia, if they continue to prove that this connection remains, how will it be possible to physically ban these small organizations there, when we are talking about i don't know there, parishes in different settlements points and so on, because, for example , i don’t know how to not let people in for services there, to take away churches, it’s impossible, these days, for example, thousands of pilgrims of the pcmp there, despite the ban that was announced, still came to the pochaiv lavra, yes . was not their options are not to not allow them to make this move, that is, the police there monitored

the order and so on, how can this ban be implemented in practice? well , i would give three answers to your question: the first of them, if someone does not want to join, join the orthodox church of ukraine, no one forbids him, there was a law signed in 2019 by the same president of yalensk ... which is not came into effect on the renaming of religious organizations, we must simply call it russian the orthodox church in ukraine and with the way it is in other countries abroad, they have their certain rights, but they also have certain obligations, accordingly, if they are called the russian orthodox church, have their center abroad, they must to answer, well, i would not like to call it something like in russia and the agents there. well, over time, the worldview can change and everything can fall into place and everything changes,

you need to give it a certain time, this is one question, the second is that each religious organization of the uoc does not represent itself solid body, which would have the status of a legal entity. dioceses, monasteries and parishes are legal entities, but each of them must... somehow prove that it does not belong to the moscow patriarchate. yes, indeed, in the statute today nothing is said about the moscow patriarchate, but everything is veiled in one point, that the ukrainian orthodox church is governed by the charter of patriarch oleksiy of the year 90, in this charter it is said that through it it is connected with through the russian orthodox church, it is connected with other local churches, where, as a matter of fact, with the russian orthodox church as well. what in in this case to do? there can be an autonomous existence of certain dioceses or certain parishes, if... they wish to simply declare their withdrawal from

the moscow patriarchate and be in their own, as they say, autonomous sailing, it can be either a diocese, or a monastery, or parish, i think that the clergy of this structure should find a way out for its believers in a normal, normative, canonical, canonically legal channel. i thank you for joining, oleksandr drabynko, metropolitan of pereyaslavskyi and... vishnevskyi of the orthodox church of ukraine, guest of our broadcast. this is svoboda live, traditionally, every day we talk with you about important topics. subscribe to radio svoboda, comment on the date, share this video with your friends, acquaintances, many important topics are raised, and we will meet you on the air tomorrow. see you soon. there are discounts until the day. independence navizyn 20% in pharmacies plantain, pam and oskad. red bull, salzburg, dynamo, kyiv,

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bam and ozhdka. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. countering the information attacks of the russians in the information war chronicle project with olga ley. tuesday, thursday at 5:15 p.m. repeat tuesday friday at 10:00 p.m. the verkhovna rada regularly passes new laws, but like these changes affect our lives? we have analyzed the new decrees to inform you about the latest changes in ukrainian legislation. how do legislative norms change our lives, what should we prepare for?

leading lawyers of the aktum bar association will answer these and other questions that concern ukrainians. see what's tuesday. at 7:55 a.m. in the legal expertise program on the espresso tv channel. see this week in the collaborators program. illegitimate ministers of the occupied donetsk region. the state constitutional system operates on the territory of the dpr guarantee. how traitors build political careers under the auspices of the kremlin. i express my support to the commander-in-chief. on tuesday, august 27, at 5:45 p.m., watch the collaborators program with olena kononenko on the espresso tv channel. we are looking for six-year-old valeria shtyglyan. the girl lived in the kherson region in the city of genichesk and disappeared two

days before the start of the full-scale war. at this time, no information about a possible location. there was no stay of the child, so your help is very important. valeria looks her age, she has an oval face and light blond hair. if anyone has suddenly seen the girl or knows any details about where she might be now, call us immediately on the magnolia children's search hotline at the short number 11630. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. you can also send important information by using the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. i also want to remind you that we are continuing the search for 16-year-old karina kanivets, who also disappeared in the kherson region already during the full-scale war, and also on the left bank region her mother told us about karina's disappearance. imagine, a woman

does not know anything about the fate of her daughter for more than a year. i applied everywhere i could. i'm already screaming as much as i can. it's like they tied their hands and said goodbye. here i am at the moment in such a situation. karina's parents have been divorced for a long time and live separately. the girl lived with her mother, but on the eve of the full-scale invasion, she went to her father and stayed with him. this territory was occupied almost from the first days of the war, but from time to time, the woman says, she corresponded with her daughter on social networks. but in april of last year, the connection. mysteriously broke up with karina, the girl stopped logging into her accounts and no one knows where she is now. i have already written everywhere about the search for the child, even here, in this territory, because i don't know where else to turn, how to find the child, i am adequate, mother, for me the child is my life.

the girl's mother is now also in the occupied territory, we recently contacted her again and... she suggests that her daughter could have been taken to russia, but where exactly unknown, so it is important to know even the smallest details. i would like to appeal to anyone who has seen or knows anything about my child who has been missing and has not been contacted since april 2023. this is karina igorivna kanivets, born on august 9, 2007. if. has anyone seen karina kanivets, or knows anything about her possible whereabouts? do not delay and immediately contact the magnolia children's search service at the short number 11630. calls. of any ukrainian mobile operator are free, if suddenly there is no possibility call, write to the chat bot of the child tracing service in telegram. i'm asking my baby,

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against a child. in any place, at any time. just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopcrime ua. the ukrainian program is broadcast from washington voice of america services chas time. i am yulia yarmolenko. congratulations. the united states strongly condemns russia's outrageous attack on ukrainian cities and russia's attempts to plunge ukrainians into darkness as winter approaches. in particular, the white house communications adviser john k'. commented on one of the largest shellings in ukraine. according to president zelenskyi's office, russia used at least 127 missiles and 109 drones. at least seven people

died and fifty were injured. in a number of regions, damage to objects of the critical infrastructure of residential buildings is recorded. in order to prevent the recurrence of such shelling, the ukrainian authorities called on the western partners to lift the ban on the use of western weapons to attack military facilities on the territory of russia. john kirby replied that there are currently no changes in us policy. the white house, he said, is currently focused on providing ukraine with more air defense systems and missiles with partners , as well as on providing assistance for the restoration of damaged energy facilities. what we are focused on is to they had much more powerful means of air defense. now their air defenses will work very well. in these attacks, they didn't shoot down everything that came out of the sky, obviously some things did, but they did shoot down most of the air targets, so we have to make sure that they can

continue to do that, so we're focused on interceptors and air defense systems not only from the united states, but from allies and partners. and as for our policy of using american weapons in ukraine, i have no changes to these principles that i am talking about could speak today. this is not a new desire from president zelenskyi, he has expressed his concerns to us privately, he has certainly made his concerns public to everyone, and we understand why he is doing this, his country is under attack, but as i have said many, many times, we will continue to talk with ukrainians, but we will keep them private. i have no change in our policy, in regard to american armaments, to speak of today. meanwhile, the helsinki commission. independent the us government agency, whose members are american congressmen from both parties, called on the white house to give ukraine permission to strike military targets on the territory of russia with

the use of american weapons. back at the nato summit in washington, the alliance countries called china a decisive helper of russia's war against ukraine and called on beijing to stop supplying moscow with components for the manufacture of weapons. a number of experts point out that without the support of russia's defense and industrial base, china. it would be more difficult to continue in moscow carry out massive attacks against ukrainian cities. meanwhile, the turnover between china and russia increased by almost 5% in the first half of 2024, reaching 113 billion dollars. the us chargé d'affaires at the osce, catherine brooker, recently stated that 73% of dual-use goods and 90% of all semiconductors and other microelectronics were imported. to russia precisely from china. reuters reports that as early as autumn, russia and china may begin using barter schemes to bypass banking systems and monitoring by the united states. is it

possible china to switch to direct military aid to russia, iryna solomko investigated this issue in detail. the united states and partners began to pay attention to the fact that the goods supplied by china to russia are used in the production of weapons as early as this spring. at the time , secretary of state antony blinken said that china provides russia with components for the production of weapons, including a huge number of machine tools, microelectronics and optics. already at the end of july, during his stay in china , blinkin announced the readiness of the united states to apply additional steps if china does not stop supporting the russian military-industrial complex. the secretary of state once again expressed serious concern about china's support of russia's defense and industrial base, and made it clear that if china does not do anything to avoid a threat to european security, the united states will continue to take appropriate measures to do so. however , statistics show that the turnover is only increasing. according to

catherine brooke, chargé d'affaires of the united states at the bseu. what is she voiced at the meeting of the permanent council, beijing remains the largest supplier of dual purpose goods to russia. bruce bennett, a senior security expert at the ren research center in california, says: china is trying to establish itself as a powerful global player, so it wants to have influence over russia. of course, he will not sell weapons directly to russia, but he will send the electronic components necessary for the weapons. china is trying to play with everyone against everyone, this is just the way in which... china, he notes, was precisely vladimir putin who was one of the most high-ranking guests at the opening of the olympics in beijing in 2022, and it is still not clear what he talked about and agreed with the chinese leader, but china's assistance to russia is decisive. you just look at the statistics of trade between china and russia, which has increased, russia has been able to withstand or contain

itself in a... pretty tough sanctions regime thanks to china. the question now is whether there will be some expansion in the types of materials that china exports to russia. at the same time, bennett notes, given china's approaches, his support he is trying to forcibly advertise russia. chinese companies began to increasingly use third countries in trade with russia, for example, kazakhstan and kyrgyzstan were added to turkey, as well as south asian countries. this allows chinese suppliers to avoid direct payments. from russian companies and prevent monitoring. china participates in global markets, and they can buy goods from other countries, including the united states, because there are no sanctions against china. they buy them, and then they can sell them to russia. the russians have covert companies doing business in southeast asia. experts also say that such intensification of trade between russia and china is not always explained by

political agreements and regulated. under the chinese government, there are many different actors, public and private, as well as ministries, in this case the situation can be a bit like the wild west, where entrepreneurs see opportunities arise and take advantage of them. china uses the global market to buy things and then sell them to russia and that makes perfect sense, i i mean, you buy cheap, sell high, because it's hard for russia. get these things, you make a profit, that sounds very chinese. meanwhile, the chinese government and companies are trying to be careful, hide the direct connection and reduce the risks. that is why, according to reuters, russia and china may start using barter schemes in the fall to bypass banking systems and monitoring. despite the statement of the former defense minister of great britain, grant shapps, who accused china of providing and preparing to provide russia with lethal weapons, experts are hesitant that china would dare to do

so. simultaneously. they doubt there will be consequences for china, even if it happens, and the west will have the evidence. see un sanctions against north korea. china should not have north korean workers in china. russia should not have north korean workers in russia, but both do. they openly defy security council resolutions and don't care if taking action against china or russia requires a security council vote. the un can't really... do anything because these countries will impose a veto, and therefore we are in a very difficult international environment where there is no leverage against china. because china has a significant influence on the global economy and markets, alain carlson doubts that any countries or institutions will try to economically influence china to stop supporting russia. china remains integral.