to somehow settle the negative balance that remained after modi's visit, and we remember that he met and hugged putin on that very day, a few hours after the mass shooting of ahmedit, when children and many other citizens of ours died, that is, this it was somehow, well , at least it looked quite inappropriate, he didn't say anything about it then, but today he, he visited some objects in kyiv and near kyiv. he drew attention several times to the fact that the most terrible crime is death the killing of civilians, especially children, that is a direct allusion to what happened in ahmadiyya, what are the advantages for india? i think that india is looking for its place, and it should do it as a huge country, well, it is the largest country in the world by population today, it is the largest democracy. it is a country

that has many of its own border problems with the same china, well pakistan goes without saying, we have known this for many decades, india wants to find its place, strengthen its role not only in the region to which it belongs, but also for example, and in eastern europe. it is not for nothing that after kyiv, if i am not mistaken, minister modi flew to warsaw, and this is generally said to be his first... and in general the first visit by the prime minister of india, well, somewhere in 45 or 50 years, that is, india has not yet paid considerable attention to the region of eastern europe, and today i think they understood that this is the region of the future, it is a region on which a lot of goals depend, some of the countries are already in the eu and nato, some will still be there, ukraine itself is important for india also because, well, again well, i don't know the latest figures, but there was...

such information a few years ago, that more than 20,000 indian students studied in ukraine, this is a very large number, maybe not so large for india, but for ukraine it is a large number , and although it is clear now, during the war it was all curtailed, probably, well, we have few indian citizens who are studying, but nevertheless, india sees the future in ukraine, both for education, and economic potential, and transit potential and everything another, for this. it is clear to stop this war, india is looking for her place, wants to be a mediator, before that she, shall we say, did not offer any mediation proposals, now mr. moidi said that he, he is ready, but he does not insist on it, he did say that he will be ready for any what steps would you take personally, as the prime minister of india, if ukraine so wishes, i just want to clarify, do you really think that india... has its place in

mediating between russia and ukraine, because it wants to preserve the potential of ukraine for itself, or india is more interested in its own cooperation in the energy sector with the russian federation. i'll just remind you that it seems that during april-may of 2024 , when breuther handed over this information, india increased its oil imports from the russian federation to a record. if we take into account the information that some negotiations could be planned between russia and ukraine recently to prevent strikes on energy facilities, and we are hitting their refinery, in omsk, in particular today, then mr. modi was not looking for the context moscow, kyiv, and now warsaw, some opportunities to hold us back and our western partners. so that we don't attack

russian oil refining, any oil capacities of the russian federation, because india is interested in russian oil in different formats? i don't think, well, first of all, you know, our attacks on russian refineries, they in no way concern india, because india actually buys it completely russian raw materials, oil and gas, and it comes, of course, not from the european part of russia, where do they get our drones, and... weapons, and from siberia, er, and, yes, india, very skillfully and successfully used the moment when prices fell for russian energy sources and began to purchase a record amount of these energy sources, that is, india is primarily interested in its own national interests, if it is cheap and can be bought, it is so. on the other hand, we know that india, for example, does not want to settle with russia in any currency other than its own rupees, and... uh, you know,

that puts russia at a very disadvantageous position, because it already sells, well, in fact , this energy of india is worthless, and it also receives rupees, which it does not know what to do with, that is, in fact, it can simply buy. on this group indian goods, that is, even more, well , to increase imports from india, which are already huge, well, these are consumer goods, as a rule, in this way, india, i repeat again, takes advantage, takes advantage of the moment, and does it in its own interests, so i i don't think that there were any problems in fashion there to stop our shelling of russian mpzs, especially, well, it would be very strange, i repeat once again, india... you see, they, they need a peaceful ukraine, because they want to have normal relations with us, we are a huge market for indian goods, including, but it is clear that during the war, what kind of expansion of exports or imports can be talked about, it is now unrealistic, so india wants

to do something to stop it all, and india is not at all interested in the fact that this war continues indefinitely, well, we are even more interested in this. first of all, i mean, but if there is such a desire in india, and if prime minister modi hears our arguments and listens to them and at some stage, well, he becomes a really real mediator, not one that will take into account first of all, the interests of putin, and i will take into account the realities that exist on the ground and the realities of this war, and the realities are such that it can only be ended fairly on the conditions that you ukraine, everything else, it, will either not stop the war, or will simply postpone the continuation of the active phase of this war for many more years. mr. volodymyr, i would like to talk with you more about the united states of america, and in particular about the now

official candidate from the democratic party, ms. kamala harris, the current vice president. well... if we speak in general terms information that we have in the last few days, first, kamala harris is widening the gap with trump. that is, if we talk about ratings, then we see that in fact, according to one of the sociological polls, she actually has 7% more than trump, well, there are different polls, but more than that, the trend is clear. haris is gradually, gradually, every week... gaining more weight, and what worries us is her statement about ukraine, about supporting ukraine, this is what we have been waiting for, and what she has not spoken about for a long time , let's go

let's listen to what she said during her speech at the pre-election rally, that in the case of... that will happen, if she is elected president, she will resolutely support ukraine. trump threatened to abandon nato. he encouraged putin to invade countries that are our allies. he said that russia can - i quote: do whatever it wants. five days before the russian attack, i met with president zelensky to warn him. about putin's invasion plan. i helped mobilize more than 50 countries of the world to defend against russian aggression. and as president, i will firmly stand by ukraine and our nato allies. but, mr.

volodymyr, as i already said, kamala haris spoke for the first time. to what extent these statements of hers can really be true. be considered direct support of ukraine and is it possible to expect something more here in the future? indeed, we waited a little for her statement from the side of ukraine, but you know, the explanation for this is very simple, the fact is that, in general , foreign policy issues are far from the first place for the american voter, and therefore, first of all, there are other issues: economy, health care, consequences of covid. there is education and such other things, but it is clear that you cannot get anywhere without the topic of ukraine, this topic is becoming today, well , the number one topic in international politics, one way or another, rather it is not becoming, it has long been, well, at some stage

this was pushed to the background a little by the events in the middle east, but now ukraine is back on the front pages again, well, this is, of course , today's frenzied shelling of ukraine again, including kyiv, i think we will hear more reaction to this, it's just not time yet, no, no... all the consequences of this next terrorist step by russia, so i think this is only the beginning, these are only the first statements of ms. haris regarding ukraine, i think she will continue to develop this topic, because she perfectly understands that this topic is also of interest to the americans, and at least to all the western allies of the united states, regarding your question, what can we expect more. of course, we can and must, because, at a minimum, it will continue

the policy that the president is currently pursuing biden, but we all know very well and understand that, well, no one hides this, that some of the steps of president biden have been too slow, these constant delays, let's say, with the delivery of weapons in the initial phase after february 2022, then, oh 6, 5 even eight months of delay in the congress, well here it is not biden's fault, but he could, even before the congressional blocking of this next package of aid to ukraine began, he could have taken some other steps that would not have stopped the supply of weapons to us , and it cost us a lot, so what we all hope, and not without reason , that mrs. haris will not only continue his line, but will significantly activate aid to ukraine. mr. volodymyr, unfortunately, unfortunately, time, our time, er, is limited, thank you for your thoughts

, for joining the air of the espresso tv channel, volodymyr yelchenko, diplomat, ex-representative of ukraine at the united nations, former ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america. i want to remind you about our survey, do you think that it is necessary to regulate the activities of telegram. legally in ukraine, yes, if you think yes dial 0800 211 381 absolutely free if you think not 0800 211 382 similarly all your calls from your phones, your smartphones are absolutely free and we're moving on yeah me and andrei i don't know , like andrii, i did not have the opportunity to congratulate our viewers, listeners, all ukrainians on independence day, and as for me, it has been 10 years since our war with the russian federation, every day is an independence day

for our country, and this should be appreciated, for it is necessary to thank the armed forces of ukraine, and in connection with the next anniversary of the restoration of ukrainian independence, the kyiv international institute of sociology conducted a certain study about the perception of this day by ukrainians, and this is exactly what we will talk about now with... with volodymyr panioto, president of the kyiv international institute of sociology kmis. mr. volodymyr, congratulations, glory to ukraine. good evening, glory to the heroes. congratulations. congratulations. therefore, for the absolute majority of ukrainians, independence day is the most important of all non-religious holidays. this, as we understand, is evidenced by the results of the survey kmisu today, independence day ranks third overall. holidays after christmas and easter, this is how the picture looks like. mr. volodymyr, it is always interesting

to talk about sociology and the research of relevant specialists in terms of certain changes, evolution, thoughts and consciousness of society on one or another topic. tell me, please, what this study has illustrated for you, what conclusions can we draw? it should be said that... the processes in ukraine still moved in the right direction, but they moved quite gradually, and this is the first such impulse was in the 14th year, when there were the first quite significant changes, but now after the start of a full-scale war, these changes are just colossal, ukraine in general all the time made its main geopolitical choice there, as a country located between europe and russia,

and we had fluctuations, we changed presidents, from pro-russian to pro-european and vice versa, and even in the 14th year there was such a first significant change, when the majority was already clearly oriented. to europe, but that would be such a not very reliable majority, because regionally, the east and south were against europe. and very strongly against nato, ah, and only now the regional difference in geopolitical orientations has practically disappeared, and various and other changes have taken place. well, with regard to geopolitical changes,

almost 80% now support both joining the european union and joining the. and the difference between regions is not very big, and this also applies to holidays, which are one such indicator, we know what a big holiday it is for the united states, and for ukraine it was not a big holiday, if in the 13th year the day independence day was considered a favorite or important holiday by only 12%. population, it was somewhere at the end, next to constitution day and labor day, and now this situation has changed, and the percentage of those who consider it the most important holiday has increased from 12 to 64%, and this

holiday has risen from the bottom to the third place, because we have a tradition. well, great day and christmas occupy the first two places among favorite or important holidays, and this applied not only to independence day, but also to other state holidays, in fact , defender of ukraine day, it was also 10% when it was just founded, and now 58%. it comes right after independence day, and even constitution day was also four, but it became 28, well , constitution day was the last holiday in general, and it seems to me that it is the fault of our deputies, because they treated the constitution that way,

every political force that came to power, changed the constitution to suit herself, as it was convenient, and such disrespect on the part of the verkhovna rada led to the fact that her people, too, the population of ukraine also treated him that way, but now this holiday is somewhere inside the list of 28%, i.e. state holidays have all increased, mr. volodymyr, so let's move from the context of the holiday to the context. probably ideological or historical, right? what in general would i like? i would like to talk about the context, perhaps, the perception of ukraine in the soviet union, or in the soviet union, that is, your sociology, in fact, it says that the majority of ukrainians believe that ukraine

was deprived of statehood as part of the ussr, in particular. this opinion was expressed by 54% of our citizens, let's show, please, you can see, yes, at the same time, at the moment 26% of our citizens believe that ukraine still had some statehood, and if we talk about the context of changes, then in 2013 36% of our citizens believe... that ukraine was deprived of statehood as part of the ussr, and in the same time, we see that 40% in the 13th, again in the same year, believed that ukraine still had a certain statehood. what does this indicate? that is, nevertheless, we see that

there is a certain difference, different interpretations, different visions by our citizens. ukraine's position within the soviet union, but this figure is changing, this sociology is changing, which shows whether we are coming to the point that sooner or later the majority of our citizens will recognize the soviet period as the period of occupation of our country, occupation of our people by, well there... russia, in fact, which then simply had a different name, uh, well, this question was inserted because we are interested in whether there is... uh, the consensus in society according to some of them is an illustration or a show, that is, uh, that

it was unreal - independence, not real statehood, but as some kind of imitation, and it is interesting also here is the question we asked about if eh were the first eh... now you would be in the 91st year and you can vote for leonid kravchuk or vyacheslav chornovol, for whom you voted, and on in the 1991 elections , leonid kravchuk was chosen, 62% voted for kravchuk and only 23 for chornovol, almost three times less, and now the situation has simply changed radically. that is , the attitude and understanding of what is useful

for ukraine, what is not, and what path it should choose, it changed a lot, well, unfortunately, it did not happen in 1991, only after all the events that took place in ukraine, and especially... the last terrible war. mr. volodymyr, very briefly, you know what caught my eye in this study, ukrainians' support for ukraine's independence remains relatively stable. kmisu data indicate that it has hovered around 90% for the past 10 years. today it is 87%. but the share of those who seek unification with russia decreased from more than 15 to almost zero. it makes me very happy. almost to zero, but that's 13%, which has either not decided on the account independence, or whether they would like dependence on someone, but not on russia, and that is, how

to correctly interpret what these people actually think, what their position is, unfortunately, we have a part of people who, regardless of anything, war, everything... they still have a positive attitude towards russia, and we also see that a certain part of people who are in the occupied territory, they, well, some come not voluntarily, some forcibly, but some part emigrates and goes to russia voluntarily receive money, and in addition we have another percentage, we are about... special experiments which show that 6%, ugh, we definitely hope to discuss with you this phenomenon, which unfortunately is present and it is important to recognize

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if not, 0800 211382, all your calls are absolutely free, and in 40 minutes we will sum up and find out what you think, well, let's start, of course, with today's black day for ukrainian energy, for ukraine in general, because any massive attack... any strikes, any terrorist acts by the occupying state is a disaster for ukraine, it is a disaster for the ukrainian people, because it is the dead, it is the wounded, it is destroyed ukrainian infrastructure, this is ukrainian business, which today, unfortunately, again does not receive profits due to the fact that there are blackouts throughout the country, a terrorist is a terrorist, and this should not be

forgotten. it is necessary to remember who is the enemy of our state, who kills ukrainians every day, who destroys our country every day, but if we talk about this context, if we talk about a possible informational context, including the context, because what happened today is aims not only to destroy the ukrainian energy industry, or not only to destroy any other ukrainian infrastructure. this is, first of all, for any russian propaganda machine, first of all informational influence, an informational tool to demonstrate to our fellow countrymen that look, we showed them, we will prove something to them, we took revenge on them there for the kursk region, or for some their failures, or for...