to fight on and defend those values, about which even 10 years ago someone could speak, so to speak, with caution, because it can split society, so to speak, or not be perceived in the sociological dimension, and this is also a fairly simple answer to that question, and the ukrainian society and the state also have to carry it through red lines, hoping that russia will become a shamenets, this also did not happen immediately, you know, we will carry out... in the 14th year decommunization, stop, please, because you destroying our common, uh, heritage, no, we are moving on, you know, in this situation we are introducing language quotas, we are passing a law on language, stop, please, you see how everything, how our people are changing, no, we are moving on, well then we we are carrying out de-russification, we will not have pushkin monuments and lermantov streets, you understand that you are completely destroying our common. space

even to the depth of 200-300 years there, when we did not have such a mutual rejection of some of your cultural values, they absolutely do not stop, no, we go further, we don’t absolutely, we conquer you and that’s it we will name them, we will kill everyone, and those whom we do not kill, we will drive them through the filtration camps and, so to speak, we will force pushkin and lermantov to surrender in these filtration goods. to read barodyno, well, by the way , it's good, if it were god's will, they wouldn't have been given to moscow, by the way, they wouldn't have been betrayed, even if it wasn't, it's not god's will, on the other hand, it's also, well, we understand that this is a very serious parallel, yes, because napoleon took moscow, took it and burned it, took it and burned it, and so to speak, i think that no architectural monument was harmed, conditionally saying, well, i'm kidding, but the point is that there is so-called depth.

it's about symbols, it's about the regional center, and the city of kurchatov, it's about as, yes, yes, and if there was such a symmetrical situation, well, first of all, it would excite our european and american friends very much, yes, because they... would understand that this is not just aggression against ukraine, that is, it is ukraine's readiness to stop the enemy by all possible means, of course, we understand that no one would resort to this or that unconventional things, that is, how forceful seizure, the russians forcibly seized power plants, trying to cause a shock in the west, so that is, it is not only the zaporizhia nuclear plant, it was chernobyl, that is, when they shoot at the nuclear plant... in brussels they are extremely

worried and not only in brussels, here i am i also worry when something like this happens, i understand, but just again, well, there is an art of desire, art is possible, and it is what it is, this art is possible, in any case, it is absolutely obvious that the very raid on kurtshchyna - is the transfer of the red lines, they continue to be transferred, that’s it too, now there’s a war on the territory of the russian federation, it’s also a call to be ashamed, because seeing... it might be like that, and then there might be some kind of offensive in the korchatov region at some point, despite the russian fortifications, well many were fortified, ukrainian troops were fortified in avdiyivka, where avdiyivka is now, just like that russian troops can fortify in kurchatov, and then it will turn out that they are not able to work long and tediously, the french built the maginot line, yes, but then it turned out that it can be bypassed, for example, a beautiful example, or the story with the law banning churches that have centers. management in moscow, well, for a very

long time they also pretended that this is how it should be, we can’t do anything with this church if there are so many parishioners in it, well , it turned out that we can, that this is another red line that crosses is moving, it will continue like this , the russians will bury with their own hands everything that connected them with ukraine, well, we mentioned it for a reason, here we go back to the history of the gkchp, yes, at one time... this communist spurt accelerated the dismantling of the communist system, and now you are absolutely right that this stupidity, bloodthirstiness, gluttony is russian, it causes ukraine to have the opportunity to very quickly implement well, internal politics is needed, antin, i'll tell you honestly, if it weren't for vladimir putin, not only i, i wouldn't have seen everything that we 're seeing from the point of view in my lifetime. there are cultural,

humanitarian, language policies and so on, but you would not have seen this in your lifetime, we would live in a policy of constant compromises and be forced to defend our interests there. historical interests in the conditions of an eternal compromise with a large part of society, which would say: "listen, we live here , we are not russia, but we have russian culture, we love philip kirkorov and yosyp kobzon, why should we bother here, we don't want to listen to your village singers, watch your village performances and speak your secondary language, there is a big language, well, we heard that recently." yes, that is, you count, that is if there was a collective one or another lithuanian or one or another character, yes, who would be ready to make a permanent compromise with the russians, and the russians were ready for this compromise, this is also very important, that is, it would be a model of continuation of what was called

there, i don't know, the ukrainian soviet socialist republic with all the relevant attributes, if viktor chornomyrnina was the president of russia, leonid kuchma would remain the president of ukraine, whether volodymyr lytvyn or serhiy tehipko would be there. this ukrainian soviet socialist republic could even join the european union, and it would be very pleasing to fridman and aven and all other russian oligarchs who would have business here, and it was simply an ideal hungary, and we would only say with horror: "listen, but the use of the ukrainian language is already rushed to five or six regions" so what, but we are in the european union, we live wonderfully, we are developing here, russia gives us cheap gas, friedman finances alpha. once, you can even write patriotic poems about it, we would write, we would write, of course, and even in the ukrainian language, but by the way, the key story, that is, in principle, in the history of ukraine, there has never been such a great peak of state formation as now, that is, a full-fledged and multifaceted one, that is, i

tried, well, what period under the mazepa hetmans, well, i am not sure, during the time of the ukrainian people's republic, no, because it is a short period, that is... balakh was powerful, but the period was short, and kyiv voted for the so-called russian block in the elections to the constituent assembly. not during the time of our great hetmans, either, because the moscow church felt for khmelnitsky in principle in a single space, because even then there was a ukrainian orthodox church in the union with constantinople, but, but, that is, the moscow church was gathering its voice. of course, they controlled constantinople. so, in this regard, we can sum up the results of our conversation. to say that this great tragedy, which you and i are going through, and which we remember, even today on this festive day, led to such changes in the state system of ukraine, which will not be able to be canceled by any other processes, and this is the , which we have to remember, but this

what our compatriots are shedding blood for, it would be better if it were all peaceful, of course, but we do not choose historical eras for ourselves, we will come back just a few minutes before our conversation with...

people who choose independence, people who inspiring by their own example, people who bring victory closer. rescuer, ensign of the state emergency service, yuriy lozynskyi worked in the subway until february 24, now his... job is clearing debris after shelling, extinguishing fires, this is a constant risk, a risk for the sake of people, and you have to take risks yourself life, we cannot be overcome as long as there are such people, bright people in dark times. saturday political club

on espresso, ansin borkovskyi, vitaly portnikov. well, let's talk about the most important thing, that is, of course, we are talking in the context of the fact that... today we celebrate the day of ukrainian independence, and it's not just about a calendar moment, not just about three decades, not even about, yes, so to speak say, about the ukrainian peak. statehood and the triumph of ukrainianism, we also talk about certain specific processes, we talked about politics, let's talk about politics, but now there is still the issue of the church, it is generally about the civilizational, civilizational dimension, that is , right now history is happening literally before our eyes, we are trying to unravel the whole layers of imperial policy, imperial layers, because the imperial policy of russia is not only about... not only about tanks, about cavalry and the capture of certain

nations by force, it is also about their cultural and religious colonization, that is, it is such a very difficult moment, and moscow is like the third rome in quotation marks, of course it is, this concept was formed over the course of a century, it is the cornerstone for the functioning of russia, and without ukraine they could not build it, because that is where the baptism of moscow took place. in ukraine, they cannot survive this, because the prince of kyiv baptized his people, because yes, not moscow, and not even volodymyr suzdal, and not even novgorod, and not even novgorod, yes, well, the kiev prince could to be a novgorod prince, a prince would do whatever he wanted, but he was from kyiv, in fact, well, let’s start from the fact, yes, but there is a simple thing here, of course, the russian orthodox church is... i would say, the most effective tool for the russification of this entire space, and it used the kyiv

metropolis as part of its approach, it needed the kyiv metropolis precisely as an element of the russification of everything around, because strangely enough, the kyiv metropolitanate, from the point of view of church efficiency, was much more capable and capable of , i would say, working with people than the moscow patriarchate, well, this is one moment, and another... this process lasted for centuries, that is, they cared certain people cared about certain values ​​and short ways to their hearts were found, and explanations, that is, these rituals, they entered into life, well, i don’t know, relatively speaking, like those scarves on the heads, that is, even for its absence, we do not have a woman let's go on and so on, there are some locals, i want to remind you of one more important thing, that the ukrainian peoples, this should also be realized, the population of the modern country all this time. even the soviets did not lose their connection with the church, as it happened with russia, with

the russian people, because in russia this loss took place as a result of the reforms of patriarch nikan, the appearance of the old believer church, all this rebellion, the fact that people fled to the forests only so as not to burn themselves, and not just burn themselves, mass suicides of representatives of the old believers burned themselves by the thousands, well, of course, that is why, in general, the russian people are a people , who broke with the traditional church, the real believers in russia, this is precisely the old-fashioned way, we are not talking about archaism, about archaic approaches, but these are people who believe in churchization, as they like to say in church, and other people, they conjuncturists, because they did not believe in it, they simply went there because the authorities said so, the authorities and faith did not go to the church for work, conditionally yes, for work and for survival, and by the way, you know what they did the old believers in... in the country after 2022, here we have the old believer church, the way

they behaved in contrast to the uoc of the moscow patriarchate, they declared that they could not have any religious center in moscow, immediately refused this center , declared that they are an independent religious community, and now the question, and to who can they turn to so that they have a metropolitan to whom they can turn there for... their sacraments of the metropolitan in brail in romania, the belokrynytsk metropolitanate was moved, as you know, after, by the way, the soviet occupation of bessarabia, it was moved and bukovyna, to the romanian city of brail, and they turned to him, by the way, this is the real old believer metropolitan, the one in moscow, he is subordinate, and this is the metropolitan that existed from the time when the old believers were in bila kryanytsia, this village on the territory of the chernivtsi region of modern ukraine. created a hierarchy for themselves and everything, that is, it turned out that it can be done this way, and

nothing happens from it, if you are concerned with the preservation of the community and faith, then the old believers, for them this is the main issue, and this , by the way, as a rule , ethnic russians , in contrast to the uoc and mp, and this is the main thing for them, they carried through the centuries, they need to preserve the community and faith, not the religious center, not moscow, and they did it, they know very well that they can ... everything they want to implement, implement, besides, you have already touched on the subject of the old believers, i will just briefly say, yes, that is, that in ukraine they were hiding from russian persecution, and the key centers, for example, of... book printing itself, they were in the territory and territory of ukraine, as even, that is, there was a different climate, that is, the same wedges, yes, that is, the well-known center of old obryady, well, this is sivershchyna, it is now approximately where our famous fighters are in kurshchyna, this is in this direction, so i always want to ask

really hierarchs of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, what do you need, checkers or go? if you need real grace, real communication with world orthodoxy, and you have such a political situation here, but the church with which you had a canonical connection, it turned out to be a supporter of war, well, from your point of view, it probably has sacraments , grace, all this is, but, but, the problem is that this church supports the destruction of your flock, well, such a moment is historical, but here is the great world orthodoxy, nearby, patriarch of constantinople. which gave it to the second rome, that is, instead of aiming at the third rome, turn to the second rome, to constantinople, or to the first rome, so the ferraro-florentine union, which was signed by the patriot of constantinople, that is, there are options, there are, but they do not want these options simply because they believe that without moscow there is no grace, no faith, no

grace, no salvation, then the question arises in... where do they want to save themselves now, or after all, when will be around with them, neither patriarch kirill, nor patriarch putin, but here is an interesting moment, so it is possible that a major global internal change will take place, well, i believe that part of the clergy of the uocp, so it will want to go, for example, to the orthodox church in ukraine, we remember let's say, in the time under metropolitan volodymyr, there were much more such people, so the current... head of the uocmp, well, his officers are a little different, i also think that they need to go somewhere, in any case, to the orthodox church of ukraine, to some orthodox churches of other european countries, which may be located on the borders with ukraine, if they so much do not want communication with the orthodox church of ukraine, with the ecumenical

patriarchate, but the only thing i can say to these people is what they were told. from the beginning of the restoration, not even of ukrainian independence, but of ukrainian civilization on these lands, and by the way, with these words we can completely calmly end our conversation today, away from moscow, antin barkovskyi, thank you for being with us on this broadcast and we congratulate you on the independence day of ukraine. victory and peace to you, friends, good luck.

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greetings, i congratulate you on independence day, of course, since 2014, this holiday has acquired more more sense than before. and what can be said after a full-scale invasion, even more people, first of all, celebrate this holiday, and celebrate it correctly, that is, it is not just that somewhere defines it like any other holiday, and it does so with meaning, and you know, i remember when in my childhood, and when there were any holidays, they were celebrated practically the same way, concerts were done the same way. on the central square, i grew up in a small town and it was basically the same, that independence day, that it's a different day there, that christmas, that

some artists just came to us, and i 'm very happy that now almost every such important holiday has its own meaning, and more and more people understand and share these meanings, so once again with on the day of independence, i will say that until this day many... artists, musicians, have timed the releases of their tracks, or albums, or songs, or something else, for example, zadany dogs, released an entire album, which consists of eight songs, called this album is angry, sergey himself is greedy, he characterizes this, this disc as honest, angry, as private as possible, and i managed to listen to him so superficially... and he wants to say that it is absolutely in the spirit of the dog, well, let's try to listen to the excerpt, if it's ready, we'll talk further. well-deserved

folk, fashionable, hungry and foreigners are performing, but we don’t know where we sleep, play what we play, and hear what we hear, literally a year ago, when i was walking on the beach, and well, usually there... you could hear some russian music , someone brought the speakers and the half-beach turned on the hounds and dogs, it was a completely new experience, although this is exactly how it should be, in principle , well, if we talk about zhadan in music, then it is such, well, we like to throw around the word phenomenon, i would say that it is a certain phenomenon, because zhadan in us can write complex texts which will be very multi-layered, in which people sit there, literary experts understand, and also he can perform in such a way - at

some club or, well, in general, to a mass audience, and the main thing is that his songs, the songs of dogs zhadana and dog are not enough understood by such a wide audience , that's why they are popular, that is why they respond, and in general, i will say that in the prose and in many of the poems of serhiy zhadan there is such a multi-national, that is , that which is responded to by millions of readers, and here this is probably one of... the popularity of serhiy zhadan is increasing and more, well , and maria burmaka released not only a new song, but also a video for it, this song is called quite so sentimentally ukraine-heart, and mariyka herself says that she is not inclined to such words or to the same centimeters, sentiments, in creativity as well, but she says that when... the shelling

of akhmatit took place, and she pondered all this during the day, and at the end of the day she wanted to write a song that would, let's say, embrace this country like, like a mother, or like a child, this is how she explains it all, let's listen, settle down, no one gave you away, ukraine dear. the sun goes up to the sky, a flag flies by, i protect you in my heart, and also the day of independence is ahead, volodymyr zelenskyi gave out state awards to artists and not only artists, in total 11 outstanding figures, not only ukrainian, because an example is among them howard buffett, an american millionaire,

i will say, by the way, that... a completely different look, but serhii paradzhanov also received the award, posthumously, of course, nina matvienko, she also received her posthumously daughter to receive this award, also ihor poklad, an outstanding ukrainian composer, finally received his own this award, i will say that he has many other people. he is definitely a hero of ukraine and a laureate of the shevchenkovskyi shevchenkovsky prize. olga gerlan received, of course, definitely deserved his award, oleksandr usyk. i would like to say, to be clear, these state awards in our country cause, it seems to me, sometimes even more irony than respect, because we see many representatives of the art sector and any other, who have on... the highest

state awards, which only it is possible in ukraine, but these people, well, to put it mildly, are not heroes, those who would deserve these awards, if we, and any award that you do not take, almost any, there will be some number of tainted people, so there were cases when such titles were different, even people refused and said that i do not want to have such a title, which... there is also such a person whom i absolutely do not respect, who should not have this title, well, let's see, let's see how they will deal with it, because there is no way they can give advice with these titles to somehow remove them, we will watch the relevant bill, how it, how, how it will progress, how it will be voted on, well, now let's move on to the topic of alain delon, because it a sufficiently

discussed topic, his death, a sufficiently discussed topic both here and in ukraine, that's why that we knew him very well, especially the generation of people who were still in the conscious age of the soviet union, because, for example , hollywood films are outstanding, they were not popular in the soviet union, because you didn't show them anywhere anymore, that's why many people in we do not know the outstanding stars of the golden age there. hollywood or, in principle, american stars, but they know the french very well, alain delon, yes, his funeral is literally taking place somewhere in france right now, he should be buried now according to his will, as he bequeathed it to be done, he wanted this ceremony to be as modest as possible, he also wanted him to be buried in

a cemetery and... may he rest in peace.