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glory to the heroes, have a good day. well, we would like to ask you right away about the situation in kharkiv and kharkiv oblast as a result of massive rocket attacks yesterday and this night and this morning. what is your electricity now? well, we see you, but maybe you work with the help of one or another power bank. no, i work from my house, we have electricity, and no yesterday, nor today does not turn off. but there were other problems, well, i speak for my usb, i am still the chairman of the board, there was a problem related to low, let's say, low supply of electricity, there was not 220, but there was 190 with something, and that is why the elevators stopped, no some devices were working, well, but it happened for about two hours yesterday morning, after which the situation leveled off, in some areas of the city of kharkiv yesterday

, the electricity went out... for a quick two hours, it still happens today, but it is not massive, let's say yes, but, but there is such a situation, in general, the majority of the city of kharkiv is with electricity, it is easier to work with it than in other regions of ukraine. we are glad to hear this, mr. bohdan, on the other hand, we also understand that preparations are underway for the school year, in less than a week the children will go to school, and does the security situation in kharkiv and kharkiv oblast contribute to children had the opportunity to go to school and learn in this, you know, real mode, and not online, and in general with the shelling now, what do you have the situation, has there been a change in dynamics, have they decreased, or on the contrary, there have been more of them, and regarding shelling, there have been fewer of them, there were two hits, it seems like yesterday, the industrial, let’s say,

zone of the city, there were no casualties, there were injuries, but everything well, it's better. today there were no shellings, let's say, on the day when the whole of ukraine was covered by a wave of kamikaze drone missiles, in kharkov, well, near kharkov, let's say in the direction of kharkov , several missiles and shaheds were shot down, so they did not reach kharkov, if it was theirs. the ultimate, shall we say, goal as far as education, one school was built underground, yes, three more are being built, or, let’s say, are in the process of developing a project, or are already being built, we voted for it back, i think, in the spring, three plots were allocated in the city of kharkiv, in addition, there will be to work, of course, underground, in the metro school, there are extended classes. well, somewhere we were promised up to 2,000

children will study, as for the underground school, it is close to a thousand children in different shifts, the shifts there can... study offline, the deadlines, let's say, for the construction of the other three schools are promised to to do them in the new year, well, i personally have some doubts, because it is such a serious volume of work, but let's see, let's say, the mayor of the city is fulfilling his promises so far. mr. bohdan, we would like to ask you about the situation on the enemy's northern bridgeheads, namely the vovchanska and luk districts. tsiv, yes, what is the situation there, what news are coming from there, that is, when we are talking about vovchansk itself, what is in that glorious place now? well, let's say, in these two areas, fighting is already going on, fierce, attacks are coming in

small groups, they are trying to attack, here just a few days ago, they did it in the direction of lyptsi, there is one of the areas where they attacked. with tanks, armored vehicles, but our fighters, this was the charter, repulsed several, defeated the assault, several units of equipment were destroyed or damaged, they took it away, that is, after this attack, they all continued to this day, well, what i you know, just attacks by small groups, there are fewer units, five people, 12 people, that is, they try to sneak in there to find some... markets , go on the attack, suffer losses, are retreating, as for our actions, there is a counterattack, there are constant battles for the remains of the street in vovchansk, because everything there is destroyed, and to say that we are some kind of global, we have recaptured some large territory there, or

whatever, that is, it is quite static now it all looks like attacks, repulse attacks, counterattacks, a little bit, well, the front line has stabilized for about a month at these, let's say these... subdivisions number of up to 500 people attacked the nekhatip crossing point, it seems it is called in the direction of shibekkino, and there they repelled the russian troops, or, let's say, russian troops repulsed our attack, i don't know how true this is. this is just information from, let's say, the public of the governor of the belgorod region and their other resources, well, this is literally fresh information, it corresponds to reality, no, to what extent it is all true, or is it, let's say, the fantasies of their propagandists, well, let's see

further, well, let's see, it's an important signal, we heard the situation in the kupinsk district, kupinsk nodal, on that bridgehead, that's how it was. activity of the enemy from pischanny in the direction of kivsharivka, so we understand that the enemy tried to split our group on the right bank of the oskil river, what is there now? well, i don't have that much more, let's say interesting information, i know that the battles are taking place, how advanced or not, well, the truth is, i can't say what is happening, i don't have any information, you have to ask the guys who find them directly. in those positions or the press service, i can't answer, sir bohdan, i still wanted to return to the northern bridgehead, zelenskyi gave a big press conference today, and many journalists, of course, asked about the kurdish operation and what it was for, and zelenskyi said, in particular, that

the russians planned to advance and in kharkiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, and sumy oblast, if we are talking about kharkiv oblast, are you currently observing the situation that really... in the north of the region it has become calmer and our units are even somewhat trying to launch a counterattack, well, their first idea was to apply the main blow was uovchansk liptsi, and the auxiliary one was sumshchina from bogadukhovshchyna, this is the kharkiv region and there to the north is krasnopillya, miropollya in those parts somewhere to strike, but strike, but... let's say, they got stuck in battles in vovchensk in liptsiy, and well, since i understand the situation there a month ago, a month and a half ago, their reserves, the corps there, which was there from eight to 10 thousand, they wanted to attack in sumy oblast, it simply broke up in the battles in vovchansk in in the direction of lybtsi, they

dragged him there and left us alone covering the border of these young guys there, as well as... mothers who surrendered en masse there as prisoners, this does not mean that they did not conduct hostilities, we did not suffer losses, we did, but nevertheless it was relatively easy to enter the chicken duck, this only shows that there were no reserves there, let's say, some line personnel units that could oppose our 82 there or their other brigades that attacked there in that direction. what else can i add, you know in my place, dedivshchyna is the peace of the sumy region there, and i constantly monitor what is there it's happening, i have relatives there, there is a big fish, myropilla, it's almost the border with... russia, and i'll tell you like this that those 3-4 km that were from the border in the last year and a half

have been brought to the point that there were almost no people left there, myrobil, a settlement of five thousand people, the former rytsentr, people were forced to leave, every day drones, every day attacks on civilians there were everywhere equipment, people, cars, and they were simply forced to leave, now when i look at, say on the map, this is suja and... and a little further east, where is this one part of it was occupied by our troops, and i understand that it is the same for me, well, our people who live there inform us that at least drones are no longer flying, they are not chasing after every car, and there are no such shellings, at least the peace of other settlements that are there in border areas, that's a plus, of course, i'm not saying that life has resumed there and everyone has returned amicably, that's not happening either, but still, a little for this region is... more pleasant, easier. thank you, bohdan tkachuk, deputy

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odesa and donetsk regions, throughout today. planned outages throughout the day. up to two- thirds of consumers will be without electricity. that's right. well, let's remind you that a big press conference of president zelensky was held today, and there were many statements and questions about peace processes, negotiation processes and plans for how to achieve it. let's talk about all this now, in particular, with oleksandr kraev, an expert of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council. mr. oleksandr, we congratulate you. and let's start with this news. in september, zelensky will present the plan for the victory of ukraine to the us president, biden. he says that he will introduce this plan to presidential candidates kamale garis and donald trump. and he says that actually, the success of this plan will depend on them. first of all, well,

do you think that without the good, so to speak,... head of the white house, any peace plans for ukraine, they are such that it will be impossible to solve, since, let's be honest, the main ally of ukraine is the united states, and without their support, both political and military, it will be difficult for ukraine to move this process in any way. you know, it is difficult to say that this dependence is absolute, that is, we cannot say that without sending a signal from washington there, we cannot offer anything in any peace plan. still work and the peace formula and our contacts with the people's republic of china regarding the peace plan and the form and summit of the peace formula, our contacts with india, our contacts in general with the global south usually pass without mentioning the united states, usually pass without us even referring to our partnership with them, because well, for obvious reasons to the global global cock, mentions of

cooperation with the united states and mentions of the united states in general are enough still toxic, to put it mildly, so no, we cannot say that without washington any peace plan of ukraine is definitely doomed to failure, but we should also understand that each of our peace initiatives is in to a different degree of balancing, balancing between our interests, the interests of the prc and the interests of the united states of america, and one way or another, but we constantly need to take into account that if we want to count on at least some success of such... tives to involve our western partners as well , and the global south, and in principle a wider circle of states, we have to take these interests into account, so the dependence here is rather indirect, the states cannot tell us what to include or exclude, but for the truly representativeness of our peace initiative, in order to really present it and involve as many countries as possible, one way or another, but we have to

consult with both washington and beijing. look, mr. oleksandr, the second peace summit is coming. and zelensky gave his vision about an hour and a half ago and gave a certain signal. so, i am quoting the president regarding the possible, i emphasize, possible participation of the russian federation in one way or another at this peace summit. we wanted their participation to be absent at the first summit, we managed to gather countries without representatives of russia, not simply, but we gathered a large number of countries a hundred institutions, more than 100, and what... regards the second peace summit, representatives of russia, if they want, they will be present, otherwise we may lose a large number of countries at the second summit, what do you think the president of ukraine means, i.e. , whether those representatives of the russian federation would sit there like a mouse double or there as some kind of observers, or as one or other parties,

maybe of one or another negotiation process, well... you know, our plan was, at most, in advance that we easy for russians we present the result of the peace formula, i.e. nine separate documents signed by the working groups for each direction of the peace formula, which are collected into the final final memorandum, or the final agreement, which is precisely intended to consolidate the 10th point of the peace formula, that is, the consolidation of the end of the war and non-repetition of aggression, and then russia had to be simply the receiving party of this document, which simply signs under it, because... it has no choice, because all other countries have given it a kind of conditional ultimatum that either you sign and live by these new rules, or you are still under sanctions and will never get out of them normally and will not be able to develop as a state. but now we see a completely different approach, we see that russia will be involved from the very beginning, we see that russia can in principle carve out for itself, let's say, the place of a full-fledged negotiator, and

the only problem here is that we still, even we in ukraine, the expert community, we do not understand the vision of the president's office of what will happen, that is, the answer to your question is still a secret under eight locks, because we do not know whether russia will be a full participant in the process. we do not know whether russia can influence in the status in which it will be at the formula peace summit, whether they will influence the final document that will be adopted, or whether they will simply say that they are ok, that they are not ok, and we already there , accordingly , we will work out the text with our partners and countries friendly to us, that is , at the moment we have no idea about the status in which russia will be invited, and the most important thing is in what status they will agree to be there, because they have repeated too many times, let's say, that apart from their... own peace plan, the so-called putin's peace formula, they do not consider other options, and that's why at the moment we we are in such a certain unknown, and as far as i

understand this situation, as far as was visible even from the same press conference, it seems to me that even our diplomats, our leadership also do not fully know, but to what limit russia will be involved constructively, and where she will already begin, let's say, to break the whole process, although my personal opinion is that russia will begin to break this process from the very beginning of its existence. look, there were also a lot of questions about what the goal is and what the goals might be, so in the plural of the kurdish operation, in particular, it was also about the fact that this is also an opportunity to transfer a certain part of the enemy's troops to this, to this branch , and in fact to relieve a little bit of turnover in donetsk region, other goals were announced as well, but why do i want to focus on the kurdish operation now, because there are many. now analysts in the western media, and she is not very optimistic in fact, there is a lot of talk about the fact that this is a kind of adventure, there is a lot of talk about the fact that secretly the states were not even

warned about this operation, that there are certain fears now on the part of the states that this operation may not pay off, and so on and so forth so on, and the most important thing is that it is possible that this may shake the west's support for ukraine, do you think that these accusations, because it sounds like an accusation, can... affect our diplomatic relations and support for our country? these statements really resonate, they create a certain information background, but you know, here we need to clearly engage in analysis, we need to clearly investigate what exactly, how exactly is happening, and we have cases for this, we have something to compare with, that is, we do not work in such a metaphysical vacuum, so remember the first operations of the legion of freedom of russia and the russian volunteer corps back in the summer of 23 in... sorties in the belgorod region, other operations on the border, then the reaction of the west was completely different, then the americans literally from the very first hours stood up for deba, began

to say, what they didn't warn, but why wasn't there appropriate communication, and what is happening is an escalation, in general, ukraine is doing very wrong things, someone there even from the pentagon officials said illegal things, approximately the same reaction was from our key european allies, and the situation then was generally quite difficult, what we hear: now yes, we hear a lot of opposition voices who say that what ukraine is doing is dangerous, that in principle it poses a certain problem for us, and that it will be very difficult to move forward, but if we look at the official statements of the pentagon, if we will look at the statements made by the ministry of defense of germany, if we look at what is said in the french cabinet of ministers, if we look at the fact that the americans, by the way, are already preparing the second aid package for us since the beginning of the kurshchyna operation, then we see that the decision-makers, that is, those who... make decisions in the west, the leadership of western countries reacts completely differently, they have a range of reactions, ranging from mocking the moscow army to

direct full-fledged help, as in the case of the americans, or as was the case with the germans, talking about the fact that ukraine simply needs to be provided with even more tanks, and this is the only topic that should be raised in the context of kursk, that is, yes, you can say a lot that ukraine did not warn, that ukraine followed in something there israel, not giving the west a desk. the full picture of information that there are indeed voices in the west who do not approve of what is currently happening on the border of ukraine, but i repeat, those who really make decisions and most importantly the military departments of our western partners, absolutely clearly have a course to support ukraine in what ukraine is doing, and this is for us, it will not affect our western partners, well, because it is one thing to say yay-yay-yay, you didn't warn us, and the second story - it is something not to give, from the fact that... what we are given, well, actually so far, this is exactly what i was saying in the context of the americans, that if there were not these two support packages, the first one that was last

week and the second , which... was announced just a few days ago, then you and i could say that there is a certain risk, because none of of our partners is not ready right during this foray into the kurdish region, during this operation no one is ready to give weapons, on the contrary, we see that what the defense forces of ukraine are doing, what is happening in general, fuels these discussions, on the contrary, it provokes western partners to give more, that is, the same operation of convincing our partners that the kremlin's red lines are an ephemeral simu. that they do not exist in principle, they never existed, it works, and in fact, on the contrary , our western partners understand that success of ukraine near kursk - this is just an additional reason to say that support should be continued, and not stopped, because such a moment may not happen again, well, look, mr. oleksandr, i just don't want to be too optimistic and not fall into you know, such a desperate story, but, but there are many now as well.

fears about this and that, you know, well , of course, on the basis of anonymous assumptions that zelensky is trying to drag america into the war, and america itself is doing everything to prevent this from happening, so that there is no third of the world, and zelensky seems to be making it so that it becomes inevitable, and is this actually the strategy of ukraine, it will not force our partners to change their position a little, because let's be honest, once again, we depend on them now, and we it's important that they... continue to support us? absolutely correct, speaking realistically, so that the situation is really not so rose-tinted and optimistic, there are risks that the format of support may change, but we need to speak clearly in which cases can happen now we see that as long as ukraine is successful, as long as ukraine is moving forward, the support, on the contrary, continues, and on the contrary, we have conversations about giving ukraine bigger permits, giving ukraine bigger

aid packages. and so on, but we need to understand that this process will not continue indefinitely, now we are on an upward trend, now we are on a trend of increasing attention to ukraine, increasing support for ukraine, actualization of the ukrainian topic, and so on, but here the question is just to which one to what limit can this continue, to what limit can we advance further, to what limit do we understand that our allies will not see this as an existential threat, to what limit can we keep this heat, to what limit can we to move forward, and this will give us the answer to what extent our partners will support us, that is, we understand that we will not be able to move forward indefinitely, well, let's be realistic, we will not be able to reach moscow, right from today to tomorrow, we are not we will be able to take kurskus directly in this evening, and we have to understand that sooner or later our western partners are going to ask themselves, what exactly do we support, do we support your victory or do we support

your adventures, do we support... the long-term recovery of your military, do we support what you are now trying to involve the whole world in a full-fledged war, that is, when the operation, when this kind of provocation, which is absolutely legitimate, will begin to drag on, when it will become clear that we may not have a plan to get out of this, or, let's say, we are doing it on the contrary for prolonging the conflict, not for to go to negotiations, then the question will arise, why continue support, the main problem here is that our enemy does not want transition, and there were many signals. which we submitted with the help of our western allies, so the enemy does not want change, the enemy only wants escalation and raising the degree on the battlefield, hoping to wear us down, and that is why our military command is going for asymmetric actions, it is very good that our allies are aware of this , but of course they will not take any responsibility, saying that this is ukraine

decided, but well... well, as they say, let's wait and see, the enemy did not wait, now we see the withdrawal of resources from the front line, in particular from the pokrovsk direction, the enemy is reacting to the situation in kurshchyna, oleksandr kraev, expert of the ukrainian foreign policy council prisma, was in touch with us, merta olyarnyk and i, for today i'm telling you everything, goodbye, and see you on the air, have a good evening. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine and we have a news release on the espresso tv channel for your attention. in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. selected from property farmers.