probably the most interesting part of ukraine from a synoptic point of view, because it is in the south that short-term rains and thunderstorms are predicted, well , in some places it is obvious, and even possible, that some light rain will suddenly develop into a heavy downpour, and the air temperature tomorrow in the south of ukraine will be the lowest + 29 + 31° unbelievable well, in kyiv tomorrow it will be hotter than in the southern part of ukraine, so in northern kyiv, tomorrow in kyiv it will be 32-33°. above zero, no precipitation is expected, it will be dry, sunny, air mass, always follow the channel for updated weather forecasts espresso. good evening, we are from ukraine. today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko. short range. zelensky called the kursk operation. in response to

the ban on strikes by western weapons deep into the territory of russia. will the ukrainian emissaries be able to convince the biden administration to lift the restrictions? the sunset is coming. the kremlin considers ukraine's demand to allow the use of stormshadow missiles for strikes on russian territory to be blackmail. can russia sway the country's south? to peace a plan to win. zelensky will introduce biden in september strategy for overcoming russian aggression with ukraine's place in the world's security infrastructure. do the ukrainian and american points of view on ending the war agree? glory to ukraine. this is the verdict program, my

name is serhiy rudenko, i greet everyone and wish everyone good health. in the next two hours, we will talk about the massive missile strikes on ukraine by the russian federation, zelenskyi's peace plan, which he has to submit in september to the consideration of the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, and about how the world treats the telegram platform, in particular in france, they were arrested there. and took into custody the founder and owner of the telegram platform, pavel durov, does this mean that ukraine should also reconsider its attitude to this platform, considering that it is very actively used by the russians, they do not even hide the fact that this platform is one of the main ones for the armed forces of the russian federation and russian officials. we will talk about all this in the next two hours with... our guests in the first part

in our program, we will have russian-ukrainian war veteran yevhen dyky, diplomat oleksandr hara and political expert volodymyr tsibulko. in the 2nd hour, which will start at 9:15 p.m., we will have people's deputies of ukraine, viktoria syumar, oleksiy kucherenko, as well as mykyta poturaev. however, before starting our big conversation today, i suggest you watch our video. witnessed how the russian occupiers fired a rocket at the hotel in kryvyi rih that night, unfortunately three civilians died, five more were wounded, one the person is considered missing, currently the rescue operation continues, and let's watch a video of the consequences of another terrible crime by the russians in ukraine.

throughout our broadcast today, we are conducting a survey, friends, we are asking you this today, have you encountered hostile propaganda on telegram, meaning on the telegram platform, right? no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have your own separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers 0800 211 381, if you have encountered armed propaganda in telegram no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce today's our first guest, this is yevhen. veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former commander of the aidar battalion, head of the national antarctic science center, mr. yevhen, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, good evening, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. during the last for several days, mr. yevgeny, russia has been carrying out

massive strikes on the territory of ukraine, on critical infrastructure objects, in particular on energy objects, this night, after the previous morning. again there was a combined attack by the russian invaders on ukraine, the russians used shaheda, missiles, 91 means of air attack, but you can explain what putin is trying to achieve, well, the same thing as always victory, but putin has no question about what he wants, here he is wants to win ukraine, but for him it is obvious, unlike various bidens, but for putin absolutely. but it is obvious that someone will win this war, either russia over ukraine, or ukraine over russia, and he is doing everything that he thinks should bring russia's victory in this, russia in this war closer. and of course, the destruction of our energy system, which, well, we, we, well, we,

simple people, we are used to seeing everything through our prism, we somehow think that the key element is that we will not have light, it starts again in us, there will be no water, inconveniences begin again, this, by the way, is also an important element of the russian... strategy of victory, they want us to the ukrainian rear was broken so that we, the ukrainian civilians, started asking the authorities to freeze the conflict on any terms, so that only we would have electricity and water. but in fact, this is far from the only thing: the destruction of our energy infrastructure is, in particular, disruptions on ukrzaliznytsia, which , in particular, transports bc and military equipment. the destruction of our energy infrastructure is, in particular, disruptions in the work of our defense systems. which the further, the more they release and the further, the more they make us independent of moreover, what are the moods of our allies there. of course, russia wants to deprive us of all these possibilities, and in fact, precisely the missile strikes of the last two days, they clearly had three

groups of targets, namely, the destruction, well , energy-generating, the last, one might say, energy-generating capacities that had not yet been finished under the time of the spring campaign, so... then energy distribution, let's say the distribution substations of our energy system, a special emphasis was placed on the substations that feed ukrzaliznytsia and the sorting stations of ukrzaliznytsia, well, separately except for energy there was another group of objects, which for some reason we don't talk much about, well, but the situation here is not the same when we tell the enemy where he was aiming. the enemy also aimed at our planes, both of them were powerful missile strikes, and actually the first and second, they, in addition to the power system, also a significant number of these, and missiles and drones were directed at our airfields and specifically at

our planes, in particular, they grazed, you can say f16 , and the result they have for this category of objects, that is, for the plane... the result is simply zero, they could not to destroy not a single one of our machines, not a single one, but the air force and the main intelligence directorate worked perfectly. gur warned in time which planes are already known to the russians, which ones, or rather their hiding places are known to the russians, where they will fly to, the air force reacted in time, not a single machine was found at the place where the targets were, but with the power system, unfortunately, not so easy you will make a kyiv gesture. you can’t hide it like an airplane, but it won’t fly from point to point, so there are losses in the power system, but again, to be honest, if you look at how much everything flew at us and how many were destroyed, well, in russian it ’s called mountain radila mish, but in reality

200 means of impression in one attack and about a hundred in the second attack, that’s 300 means of long-range impression, so... the result is significantly damaged one hydroelectric power station and two large tecs, several distribution substations were destroyed, well, it is simply incomparable, to be honest, it is... even the cost of the missiles that were used, well, the first attack, where there are 200 missiles, it is somewhere around 1, 3 billion dollars, and somewhere from half a billion the second attack, i.e. under 2 billion dollars they spent for this company, well, to destroy one majzal of one hydroelectric power plant and several substations, well, yes, they are not cheap either, well , excuse me, it is in tens of millions of dollars, no. but spent billions of damage to tens of millions, well, if

the effectiveness, let's say so, is very mediocre, well, by the way, it's not about the fact that the orks have crooked hands, the targeting in them was mostly quite good, it's about our air force , again, which, well, gave such a percentage of intercepted targets, well, what else is israel grow and grow, that's really the question, how often do we underestimate our defenders? this is what our anti-aircraft forces are doing literally every day, well , this is unprecedented in the world, to actually nullify the multi-billion-dollar efforts of the russian military and space forces, it is actually very expensive, and we, we just take it as a given , well, it's like, we 're just used to the fact that, well, our guys are like that, they work like that, and this is actually , to put it mildly, a difficult job, and in general, i paid attention to one more interesting aspect: that's why to prepare such an attack, even a two-part attack, maybe, by the way, even today

there may be a smaller third, i admit, but in general, to prepare an attack, such a massive attack, it took the russians a month and a half, remember, there was the period when 100 rockets were fired every week, then they became every two weeks, then once a month, now once every one and a half, this is... not by chance, this is to the question that the russians have no strategic stocks of missiles left, and they allow themselves to use exactly as many rockets as they do produced in some time, accordingly, in order to gain a big hit, their factories now have to work for a month and a half, only after that they can repeat it again, as they like to say there, but they will be able to repeat it again seriously in a couple of months, that is... . we have to restore, to replace these damaged things, that is, yes,

unpleasant, preschool blows, but they are absolutely non-lethal, and it is absolutely possible to survive, the main thing here is to adjust ourselves accordingly to our rear, that is, mr. yevgeny, i am right i understand that these strikes were not a response to what is happening now in the kursk region, but this is a systematic work of the russians to destroy. of ukraine, which they had previously conducted. that's right, and for the actual preparation of this yesterday's and today's strikes, it began long before we entered the kursk region, that is, just to say that they began to prepare a response for kursk, before we even made the decision that we let's go to kursk, well, to put it mildly, it would be incorrect, no, in general, by the way, again, this is one of the points that russian propaganda is trying to impose on us in... the absence of the fact that there is supposedly a direct connection, that is blow for blow, some kind of symmetry, not

symmetry, something we allow ourselves, something they they allow themselves in return, this is all a lie, they allow themselves from the very beginning everything that they can do purely technically with the exception of nukes, i.e. not using nuclear weapons and not touching nuclear energy, this is the red line that the west actually drew for them, and only this and... the red line after which they it is promised that nato will intervene directly, and that is why this is the only thing they do not do, everything else they are only technically capable of in order to defeat us, everything else they do exactly when they are technically able to do it, but there is no connection in connection with our actions, they harm us in every way they can, regardless of whether it is more successful or less successful, we destroy them, let's... talk about what is happening in kurshchyna, because today the head of

the armed forces of ukraine, speaking at the ukraine 24 independence forum, he said that russia has transferred 30,000 troops there to dislodge the armed forces of ukraine. let's listen to what golovkom says about kurshchyna as of august 27, 2024. the kurdish operation diverted a significant number of his forces, well... at the moment, we can state that about 30,000 conscripts have already been transferred to the ursian direction, and this number is... increasing. today, we have taken control of 1,294 km of territory, 100 settlements located on this territory. also, thanks to the successful actions of our troops, we are replenished, significantly replenished the exchange fund. to date, 594

armed servicemen have been taken to polon in this direction. forces of the russian federation. and president zelenskyi also spoke today about the kursk region, he said that the physical presence of ukrainian troops in the kursk region is a way to compensate for the short-range range. let's listen to zelenskyi. the physical presence of our forces in the kurdistan region, our active actions to destroy the russian threat on its territory are, among other things, a way to compensate. long-distance deficit, we continue our actions in specified areas exactly as ukraine needs. during this day, there is more of our control, there is another replenishment of the exchange fund. mr. yevgeny, today it became known that the minister of defense of ukraine rustem umyerov, the head of the president's office andriy yermak this week in washington plan

to hand over to the administration of president biden the entire list in the depths of russian territory. counting on the fact that the americans will allow us to launch missile attacks from deep within the russian federation, is the kurdish military operation convincing to our western partners of ukraine, and can it convince them that we can do much more with long-range weapons? these are two completely different questions, i will start with how convincing the kurdish operation is for our allies in general, i regularly monitor. the western press, as you know, with the kurdish operation we completely changed its entire tone, its entire narrative, but before the start of the kurdish operation, to be honest , reading the western press was already morally more difficult for me than the orkian publications, because the orkian publications from time to time you can laugh at times, but everyone was already there

these washington-posts and news stories were already very unfunny, i don't know if everyone in our country realized this. attention, because we are only partially, let's say, reposts are going on, but when you read it all in the original and constantly, well, we were actually buried there, the narrative that it was impossible to defeat russia, we had to negotiate, we had to freeze conflict, freezing the conflict means freezing it on putin's terms, that is, in fact, our capitulation, part of the western media simply openly rocked for it, simply drowned it, one might say for it. part of them shed crocodile tears, that they feel sorry for us, but what can you do, it is impossible to defeat russia, so the kurdish operation completely changed everything, the kurdish operation in general, i’m sorry for my rudeness, but it shut up all those who all the time tried to force us to freeze, the thesis about the invincibility of russia has been completely removed, now

it is being discussed, first of all, whether we should give until or not to defeat russia, well... let's say another part of the allies is discussing what should be done so that we defeated russia, but again for the first time after, well, let's be honest, after the failure of our offensive in 23rd year, for the first time again it is considered obvious that in principle russia is victorious, that it can be defeated, then there are already questions, i 'm talking technical, but not all of them welcome, but that's another story, that's why the tone of our allies has changed... dynamically in this sense , the kurdish operation is our greatest overall military success after the liberation of kharkiv oblast and kherson in osyra in 22. but a separate and sadder story is the question about long shots that's why i'm afraid that nothing will change until the elections in the states. it seems that we have focused on certain, shall we say, personal

characteristics of grandfather biden, for what reason. which he is simply not capable of transgressing, this panic fear of escalation is so deep in him, this panic fear of doing anything that, in his opinion, could force russia to unpack the nuclear suitcase. he has such a great fear that he would have only one will, and if he believed that for the sake of not unpacking the nuclear suitcase, you just have to hand it over to ukraine, believe me, he would hand it over, thank god. in the states, he is not the only one who makes all the decisions, but in those where it directly depends on him, well, we can see that, for him, long-range strikes against russia still remain outside the boundaries of these red lines and... if our kermanichites manage to convince him , that in fact these red lines exist exclusively in his head, well, it will just be a fantastic success, i

would not hope for it yet, but by the way about the red lines, well, grandfather biden is really a separate history, i would say on the husband of psychiatry, but the kurdish operation in particular convinced the absolute majority of western experts that there are no red lines, but at one time it was believed that... strikes on crimea were red lines, but then they believed that well , what, the strikes on russia are already red lines, drones flew even over moscow, but even after that it was considered that, well, what, but the direct military occupation of part of the territory of russia, well, this is already such a red line, well, straight purple, you can say, so what well, we've been crossing this line for three weeks now, and what, and nothing. and the kursk region is simply filled with conscript soldiers, they surrender in packs, we advance further, and where is the red line, the kursk operation brilliantly showed that

the red lines are in fact, as in the russian classic about the fact that devastation is not in closets, devastation in the heads, so the red lines are not on the map, the red lines are only in the heads, i'm afraid biden hasn't fully realized this yet, but many people in the west already do. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation. it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, please support our pages, support our stream, like and take our poll. today we ask you about the following: have you come across armed propaganda in telegram? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv, grab your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you have encountered hostile propaganda in telegram 0800-211381, no 0800-211-382. all calls to

these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. and then, we have oleksandr khara, a diplomat, an expert on foreign and security policy issues of the defense center, on the phone. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. mr. oleksandr, let's start our conversation with the statements of the russians, which they began to make after the armed forces of ukraine entered the territory of the russian federation in kurshchyna. russia said that they refuse, under the current conditions, refuse to go to any negotiations with ukraine before... there were publications in the western press that a meeting of russians and ukrainians was supposed to take place in qatar on august 22, they were supposed to agree on some the plan did not hit, i will say so, it did not hit

the energy infrastructure, the critical infrastructure infrastructure, the spokesman of the kremlin, dmytro piskov, was just commenting on the information about the possibility of negotiations between ukraine and russia, and about which the washington post wrote, what he said. you know that the topic of negotiations has lost its relevance now, there are a lot of messages about various contacts in zmi and not all of them are actually true. the kremlin speaker also claims that there were no negotiations before the operation of the armed forces in the kursk region. we know, in fact, that russians always lie, and in this case piskova can't help but lie either to trust or. should not be trusted, but is kurshchyna now such an excuse for the russians to say that we will not talk about peace at all, since you entered our

territory, we will now continue the war, although the nature of the war for 2.5 years indicated that , that putin did not want these peace talks, he only had one plan, the plan for the surrender of ukraine, which he tried to implement, or is it, well, first of all, we cannot... include the fact that the ukrainian side was actually negotiating with the russians about moratorium on strikes on the critically important energy infrastructure, of course, the russians have been targeting our energy facility since 22, well, in fact, since last year, we have quite actively begun to destroy russian refineries, and of course this hits them hard, and i i do not rule out that we will resume these negotiations. how much it is actually beneficial for us, because russia still has the opportunity to destroy our infrastructure with these mass attacks, and it is clear that without energy we will have a very

eh... difficult situation for civilians, yes and actually for the economy, including the defense-industrial complex, well, we also periodically conduct negotiations on the exchange of prisoners of war, so separate negotiations, this and that is normal, it is absolutely possible to conduct, if we talk about ending the war, then the position of russia was the usual traditional one this, you know, jesuit, they, their formula, we never refused to negotiate with ukraine, but the demands... the demands that they put forward, they were completely unacceptable to us, they were actually a capitulation, and russia's getting even more than it was able to invade and actually control, so of course that this balancing act, diplomatic or political, it does not correspond to reality, it is clear that the kurdish counter-offensive operation, and i think this is a very apt term, not an invasion or not.

in a different way, this is what ben hodges suggested, because indeed the entire territory of the russian federation is a legitimate target for ukraine, and it is clear that we have no intention of annexing these territories, so this is part of our, shall we say, general war, and it is a counter-offensive operation, she hit putin very hard, by and large, this is the first action of our defense forces in a long time, the result of which was not only, well, at the moment, quite significant military results, this is also the territory under control, this is the replenishment of this exchange fund, and this is the accelerated destruction of russian forces and means, the most important thing is the dilemmas for putin, political, it is not for nothing that he called what he is going to do in the kursk region a counter-terrorist operation, that is, he did not even in violation of his own

defense law... did not declare martial law, did not introduced those legal and other mechanisms that would be required, are required, more precisely, by russian legislation, and a common sense, but he cannot do it, because this is the next step, it should be a general mobilization, and this is an extremely unpopular thing, now they they can buy the poor from all corners of russia, they can send forces from the donbass to extract mercenaries, wagnerians from... africa, and if there is a general mobilization, it will affect the big cities, and this is, of course, the so-called social contract that putin has concluded with russians that they don't get involved in politics, but he doesn't actually demand big sacrifices from them, he will be violated, it will certainly be, it will affect his, let's say, the stability of his regime, well, most importantly, the formula of putin and , in general, of this entire russian camarilla

about , that ukraine must... recognize the situation on the ground, it does not work, because it means that he must also recognize that part of his territory is written in the constitution, which is recognized by the whole world, and of course ukraine, is under the control of ukraine, and it is clear that he is not can do such a thing, so i wouldn't say that anything has fundamentally changed, the russians were not ready for real negotiations, we don't trust them, because they violated everything that... you can imagine in terms of agreement and uh bilateral agreements and international law, what they are saying now is just rhetoric, and it seems to me that we should not, let's put it this way, pay attention to it, and probably another very important point is that with our counteroffensive operation we discouraged our friends and those , who doubted ukraine because of two things: first, to use what is such

a phraseology. that this war has come to a dead end, that ukraine is not even able to defend its territory and surrenders 100 m of territory in the east in a week, that is, this rhetoric is no longer relevant, because we have shown the ability to concentrate forces and means and carry out absolutely in accordance with western military operations by standards, and the second point is about peace, again they tried to pressure us into certain compromises. actually based on a false idea that there is, therefore, first and foremost, a dead end, and secondly, what any, any war ends with negotiations, and the time has come for ukraine, which is tired, the ukrainians do not want to fight anymore, then a window of opportunity is opening, so thank god that these two positions, they are now...