people's deputies of ukraine, stay with us, bbc news ahead. the offensive in the kursk region, the plan to win the war, the first ukrainian ballistic missile, which volodymyr zelenskyy spoke about at his big press conference. i am olha polamaryuk. frank conversation and statements that the mass media have already taken apart for quotes. that's all about today's press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi. the last time journalists spoke with the president was in july following the results of the summit nato, besides, in may on vyshyvanka day. but unlike those conversations in a rather narrow circle, the current press conference was broader. the questions are more acute, if then

they were talking about the russian offensive on the kharkiv region, now the top topic was the breakthrough of the armed forces of ukraine in the kursk region, but about everything in order: one and a half hours, that's how long volodymyr zelenskyi's press conference lasted, all the questions were covered in that time put representatives of about 30 media, both ukrainian and international, talked about the plan and expectations of pro-ukrainian developments, as ukraine is preparing for winter, and the main issues concerned the front in ukraine and kurshchyna. bbc correspondent oksana torop asked volodymyr zelensky about kursk. mr. president, i would like to know whether the operation in kurshchyna really disrupted the energy negotiations in qatar, as the western media reported. and will ukraine continue to insist on these negotiations? and, by the way , they wrote that russia should have been there at these negotiations in order to agree to stop the shelling of energy facilities. not related at all

things, the kurdish operation, the meeting in qatar, the kurdish operation is not related to any of the points of the peace formula, but is the kurdish operation related to the peace summit with the second one, yes, because the kurd operation is one of the points of ukraine's victory plan. i want to be consistent again, i will answer everything, and then. let's move on to other points, and just a lot of things are written, and sometimes it does not help much what you said, what was written about why, because these are completely unrelated things, the kursk operation has and had completely different goals, completely different goals than meeting on energy ethics with colleagues,

energy is very important, but it is important to end the war, and the kurdish operation is one of the stages of this process, but it failed, it did not fail, it was conducted online. mainly the questions to volodymyr zelenskyy related to the front, battles in donbas, plans for the kursk region and the possibility of negotiations with russia, but there was also that. what the president spoke quite emotionally about is personnel policy. oksana torok about the main thing. press conference of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi lasted one and a half hours. he practically did not have an opening speech, so the journalists could immediately move on to their questions. the lion's share of them concerned the situation in kursk region. the armed forces are conducting a special operation there. the president was able to answer some questions, for example, about the tasks and goals of this special operation, to some he refused ... for example, to inform the details of what

will happen next, whether this special operation will be able to go beyond the territory of the kurdish region, deep into russia. journalists were also interested in the situation in donbas, there now heavy fighting continues, according to the president , the armed forces of ukraine are trying to stabilize the situation, he is in daily contact with head sirskyi, they were also interested in questions about the president, he made it clear that... he does not have high hopes for a negotiation that putin will agree to stop the war and go to some kind of peace talks, but at the same time he has high hopes for the second peace summit, which is tentatively planned to be held in the fall, it is not yet known in which country, but also to attract a large number of leaders and possibly with the involvement of the russian side, as for the representatives of the russian federation at the second peace summit, this is the wish of all countries. they want, they believe that

in this way there may be a chance to end the war, so we wanted them not to be present at the first summit. the president made an important statement that ukraine had successfully tested its first ballistic missile, while he refused to give any details, but announced it as a major achievement of the ukrainian military-industrial complex. most volodymyr zelenskyi's emotions were aroused by the question about the members of his team, in fact, this is a traditional question that journalists ask at almost any press conference, it is true. concerned the head of the president's office andriy yermak and his deputy oleg tatarov, so volodymyr zelenskyi replied that he was satisfied with their work and made it clear that he was not going to fire anyone. in general, i got the impression that the president was in a good mood, he

joked a lot and willingly answered almost everything questions from journalists. so let's try to analyze the most important things from the press conference together with our guest, a military analyst of the group. information resistance oleksandr kovalenko joins the air, oleksandr, i congratulate you, the topic of the front is at the center of today's meeting of the president and journalists, i want to ask you about the operation in kurshchyna. volodymyr zelenskyy said that this is a defensive operation, and it has been going on for three weeks already, just today, by the way, what are the results of this operation you see, there are quite a lot of results, three more weeks they didn't finish completely. what we have as of today, we have the controlled territory of the kursk region, it is almost 1300 km, we have a buffer zone that protects, allows, allows to protect the sumy region, we have a large number of prisoners, this is

an exchange fund that we need for exchange, and due to this operation , important logistics for the russians were cut, the railroad tracks. roads in the sucha area, and in fact now completely logistics, railway logistics of the russians in the kursk region has been destroyed, and it has become more difficult for them, and in addition to everything else, this control of important objects, such as the same gas distribution station, one of the largest on the border with ukraine, that is, a large number of such categories that speak of the success of this operation, moreover, no collision as of now, the russians have not stabilized, they continue to pull more and more units from the combat zone, in order to try to at least initially stabilize the line of demarcation in the kursk region, not to mention the start of a counterattack. well, it's interesting that

the russian media are silent about the press conference of volodymyr zelensky, instead they report on the strikes on the energy system, they even call them retaliatory strikes, more than 200 missiles and drones. yesterday, almost a hundred this night, what tactics of the russians are you following? it has not changed in any fundamental way, that is, these are strikes on energy infrastructure, on civilian objects, and these are strikes on logistics, and the changes relate exclusively to the period when these means were used, if earlier the means of destruction were exclusively used at night, now it is more a ... after dawn, where the first wave of strikes took place, i.e. it was around seven in the morning when the missile component was used. why yes, it's most likely because the russians are having big problems right now with adjusting strikes with a50 radar planes. first of all

, because they don't use them, they are afraid of the planes that they have left to use, so they are forced to transfer the main waves of missile strikes precisely on ... a day when the sun has already risen, by the way, on july 8, when a blow was delivered, a big blow to kyiv and kyiv region, and when a missile hit the okhmadet children's hospital, it also happened on the day, yes, well, you talked about russian planes, and i want to say that volodymyr zelenskyi noted that ukraine used f-16 fighters, so they repulsed the missiles and drones that were flying towards ukraine these days, we will also talk about that, but... let's listen to what the president said. no one talked about it, but we already destroyed part of the missiles and drones with the help of f-16s during this massive attack by the russians. we're not telling you how much, but we did. thanks to the partners who gave us the f-16, but

again, it's not enough. we have a small number of f-16s. let's return to our conversation. oleksandr, how much do f-16s strengthen ukrainian air defense? f-16s have exactly this functionality, they can shoot down air targets, not only other fighters or helicopters, they can also hunt for cruise missiles, they can also hunt for... shaheds, that is why they strengthen the means of air defense quite effectively, because have at their disposal a wide range of missile weapons that can be to be used at short, medium and long distances, destroying just such air objects. yes, well, i can't help but ask you about the pokrovsky direction, as commander-in-chief oleksandr syrskyi confirmed that one of the goals of the kursk operation was to withdraw russian troops from donbas. tell me, please, what do you know about the situation there? the situation is very difficult, the enemy has no intention

of withdrawing their forces and means from there, for them it is to continue offensive actions in the turkish-pokrov direction, although it is true, from the east of the donbass region, they some units pulled back, it was from the area of ​​the kramatorsk direction, it was during the yar period, from the lymanokupinsk axis, the lyman, kupinsky directions, they even pulled back a song. some units for the resettlement of the kurdish group, that is, the process itself is really happening, but it is the turkish-pokrov direction that they are still stubbornly trying to advance and not limit the possibilities of these groups, this particular group in number. well, volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke about the first ukrainian-made ballistic missile. in general, i want you to ask, for 2.5 years of full-scale war, how the ukrainian defense industry has changed, if you can literally say a few. in a sentence, it adapted to the conditions in which it found itself, that is, in a state of war

against a large country with a large army, we adapted and were able to achieve more or less, but in fact some parity in some categories, of course, oleksandr, thank you, oleksandr kovalenko was on our air, thank you, zelensky's press conference took place when russia massively attacked ukraine for two days in a row, according to the viewer bb. on security issues - this is not only russian revenge for the offensive in the kurt region, but part of a broader strategy of the russians. these are the largest attacks by missiles, drones and other weapons on ukraine since february 22nd, the full-scale invasion, and it is tempting to see this simply as putin striking for revenge because he is so angry about the ukrainian offensive in kursk. oblast, which began on august 6, which is clearly humiliating for russia, humiliating for him, it was supposed to be

a special military operation, they say, not don't worry, everything is under control, but now the war has come to russia, and it's really annoying as hell, but actually there is more to it, and yes, there is a separate strategy behind it: russia is trying to destroy critical infrastructure of ukraine, especially the generation capacity, the ability turn on turn on the lights and the radiators, it's august, it's still summer, but winter is coming, and this will be the third winter that russia wants to keep ukrainians in the dark and cold, with the goal of people going to their government and saying: "be please conclude a peace agreement, stop the war, end it at any cost, and of course the peace agreement will be concluded on russia's terms, which we know, that is, russia wants to keep parts of the four regions that it illegally annexed and occupied kherson, zaporizhzhia , donetsk and luhansk regions,

as well as crimea. ukraine should forget about any hopes of joining the eu or nato, about western aspirations and actually return to the bosom of moscow. ukraine is not ready to do this, and so far the ukrainians are quite persistent in this, but this is precisely the goal of the russians. this is a continuation of what was already done, but even more intensively. i would use this one here. analogy, it's like a boxer hitting his opponent in the same spot over and over again, not changing, just hitting over and over again, trying to wear the opponent down, and that's what they're doing with ukraine. and that's all we have time to talk about today, subscribe to our social media pages so you don't miss the most important news. we are on facebook, instagram, tiktok. you can watch our release on youtube, if you have time missed it on the air. and our program. turn on tomorrow, as always, at 9 p.m., good luck and take care.

congratulations, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the second part of the verdict program, my name is called. serhiy rudenko, and for the next 45 minutes we will talk about the following. daily missile terror. russia is trying to... destroy the energy system of ukraine, how to protect yourself from a total blackout and avoid a humanitarian disaster. social networks under the control of the kremlin. twitter and telegram were in the center of world attention public due to russian influences. why the durov case caused hysteria in moscow.

pro-russian deputies in the verkhovna rada. the leadership of the parliament. is baptized from the escape of artem dmytruk. why is the process of self-purification in power not working? friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us now , please subscribe to our pages and also take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following: have you encountered hostile propaganda on telegram platform? yes, no, and if... if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers, if you have encountered hostile propaganda in telegram 0800-211381, not 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will here are the results

of this vote. i would like to introduce the guests of today's studio, they are people's deputies of ukraine, viktoriya syumar. people's deputy of ukraine from european solidarity, member of the parliamentary committee on anti-corruption policy, mrs. victoria, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. mykyta poturaev, people's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people, chairman of the parliamentary committee on humanitarian and information policy, vice-president of the osce parliamentary assembly. mr. nikita, i congratulate you, thank you for joining the broadcast. good evening. and oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the parliamentary committee on questions of energy and housing and communal services, mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening, thank you. well, first of all, ladies and gentlemen, since we are asking our viewers and viewers about the telegram platform, and after durov, pavel durov, the founder and owner of this platform, uh, was arrested in

france, detained in france, we ask our tv viewers about whether they would encounter enemy propaganda in telegram, i will ask you too, although i think this is a rhetorical question for you so precisely, so that you work professionally with information and have definitely seen how the enemy uses this platform, and yet, let's try to answer this question in the blitz format, ms. victoria, i think these are, you know, the most brutal examples of enemy propaganda that can be found in telegram, it's not only live broadcasts there. solovyov, which , by the way, he does in telegram, but in youtube he has not been there for a long time, and he has broadcasts and studios every day, but unfortunately, there is a lot of such propaganda that directly concerns the cruel treatment of ukrainian prisoners of war, in particular, therefore during the war, it is an extremely serious

tool of russia in the war against ukraine. ms. mr. nikita, please. and thank you, i did not come across it, because i demolished this kremlin sink in the 19th year, i watched for exactly two months what was happening there, i realized that it was a kremlin sink, i demolished no one else, i never used it, which i advise everyone, and i am surprised only by the fact that there are a lot of colleagues, i will not ask the colleagues who are now on the air with me if they have a telegram established, surprised only by the fact that a lot of... colleagues, both from the legislative power, and from the executive power, and from other powers of all kinds, did not do the same, did not carry the telegram and did not address the citizens, since i appealed, with a persistent request and with an explanation that this poison must be abandoned, but of course i saw and

still see numerous detailed monitoring, so i know what is happening there, i myself am this shit, i'm sorry. i haven't used it since the 19th year, thank you, mr. nikita, mr. oleksiy, you use telegram channel, well, i can say that i use the telegram channel, i have no state secrets, but i monitor the information field in telegram, please, there is a lot of interesting, operational information there, especially if i need, for example, to quickly learn about those the shelling itself, and definitely a telegram instantly, it just needs to be read. what you want to read, and not read, is vino, because i don't really understand something, you know, to find vino in the world, well, if you want, please, you will find it everywhere, just why read it and that's all. although i will tell you honestly, in order to understand what is in the heads of russian scoundrels, i sometimes look there for what this, this

alcoholic writes, this one, like him, is an alcoholic, and tsarev, both, two and such a tsarev well, you see, i even read, i need to understand what the enemy breathes and what is in his head, and i don't see anything negative in this, well, because. since i understand that the russians are now, as they say, in galicia surprised by the fact that durov was detained in france, where he is accused of because he didn't want to moderate the content, he didn't want to cooperate with the french and didn't want to reveal information about users suspected of distributing drugs, child pornography and fraud, obviously it's important for the russians to reach out. durov and even russian foreign minister sergey lavrov says that the detention of durov proved that the telegram messenger developed is a reliable

and secure platform, but he did not simply add here that for russians, it is protected and reliable, now that durov is clearly on someone's advice taken away and threatened with terrible punishment, expecting, apparently, to somehow gain access to the encryption codes, now this has already been proven by the actions of the french. that telegram is really a reliable and popular network, well, lavrov sent such a greeting to durov and said that pasha, hold on, don’t give anything away there, because many russians use this platform, and it was hysterical, but i read among the military, because they also use among those who are fighting against ukraine, ms. victoria, at one time you passed the ban of two russian social workers networks, vkontakte and classmates, then too. well , there was a very big disturbance of ukrainian society, there was much more, there was no big war then, but you went through this procedure of disconnecting ukrainians from two

social networks, how can you go through this story with the telegram now, given the fact that it is such which can be used by the russian special services, it is used by the russian... special services, that, that's the whole point, i think, this story with the detention of durov, it just shed so much light on everything that is happening, and the hysteria of russian military personnel about the fact that he is the head of communications of the defense forces, and broadcasts on russian television about the fact that the main guidance of missiles on the concentration of the ukrainian military is carried out with the help of a telegram, all this has suddenly become not a secret, in ukraine it is simply uncomfortable to talk about it , because... because we have an illusion among many politicians that they control this russian messenger, but i emphasize, this is just an illusion, i never created my

telegram channel, i can only track on some devices of others, what is happening there, i understand very well how this tool works, how convenient it is, it is true, and i am very sorry that it is used by the ukrainian special services, and they really use it and... and throw it there there is a lot of information in the monitoring channels, because it is supposedly convenient, i repeat, it is actually dangerous, it poses a threat, we really went through, we have this experience with the interception of vkontakte, vkontakte is the creator of this social network as well as pavlo durov, and you know, they also work there eyes russian tools that make social networks such as vkontakte and telegram attractive to various propagandists, and because it really works there. the principle of anonymity, you do not know who writes this or that content, in fact it is convenient for those who want to manipulate readers and who want to manipulate the masses, there

is no regulation, that is, you can throw any fake there, and there are closed codes, access to what a lot of information, and this is simply used, you know, by people who spread from child pornography to drug... trade or other things, my friends in germany said: listen, telegram has become so popular in your country because of the news, as a news resource, here, here, all drugs are bought through telegram, and it has become a problem for europe, and that is why the french law enforcement system ready to present, to put it bluntly , these accusations are stupid, i know, i don't want to go into any conspiracy theories here, as there are many politics here, the fact remains the fact, there are a lot of cryptocurrencies on the darknet, many processes there are actually carried out through telegram, because, i repeat, the tools of the absence of any regulation are used,

and in this... there is a big problem, we must talk about the fact that in a civilized society the state must have access to the regulation of social networks, and if we have the opportunity, i'll just show how it 's happening now on the example of many countries, from the united states, to, for example, the same turkey that actually settled the scandal with instagram a week ago, when instagram agreed to the state's conditions for content regulation. thank you ms victoria mr. mykyta, will your parliament... committee initiate restrictions on telegram in ukraine? well, first of all, we have mykola knyazhyskyi's draft law, it was supported by quite a few deputies from different factions of the groups. i believe that this bill is too soft. we discussed this with mykola knyazhytskyi today. we will consider it in committee on thursday. i will insist that we develop a parliamentary version. because not because mykola knyazhytskyi is so

liberal. not at all to the telegram, just him made the bill a little earlier, when certain problems were not yet so acute and not so obvious, i believe that we need stronger solutions there, and therefore i will propose that the committee agree to develop the so-called committee text, where we are all together, all members of the committee, or almost everyone there, will come forward with the co-authors and make... the text much more rigid and effective, although, if there will be, i don't know, there is, well, a proposal from society that we go there more liberal, more which way, which i personally do not agree with, then we can indeed, to further promote the law of mykola leonidovich, he is soft, in my opinion , too soft, but again, this is not the fault of mykola knizhytskyi, it's just...

a little bit at a different time, a little bit earlier, that's why we ready, i am personally working on it, and we are involving experts in this work, but i absolutely do not agree with the fact that we have any options, there are no options, we have the option of doing nothing and enduring, continuing to endure, or ee such networks are hard... hard to just block, and by the way, this is a problem not only with telegram, and i want to say when, again, this is not an accusation, this is just a statement of fact for everyone, that everyone who has this app on their phone and uses it, even without having their own channel, then everyone, by their presence there, supports this obvious . criminal

ecosystem, just because you're there, the fact that you don't have channels means nothing, you, thus, every person who is there increases its ranking, because it's called organic, and there's ukrainian, that means politicians come out, and there are ukrainian journalists there, and there is no need to accuse the authorities of being there, because there are representatives of the ukrainian media, the largest, which run their channels there. this is all the promotion of the development of this network that works against ukraine, where every day thousands of channels are crossed with other similar networks without moderation, subversive operations against our country during the war, and every ukrainian who is present there helps russia fight to

destroy its own state here's what's going on i'm not going to be correct i'm telling it like it is anyone who has this messenger helps russia to defeat its own state and its own country, this is what is happening, and there is no need, and there is no need for illusions, there is no need, according to you, according to your conclusion, millions of ukrainians help the russians to win, and unfortunately, our fault is that we this was not dealt with more harshly before, because there were... there were only isolated voices, experts, investigators, whom no one wanted to hear, and what's more, they also mocked us, and they still continue to mock us, well, let's continue to laugh, let's, no, no one will laugh at you the simple question is that when a large network of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate operates in ukraine, and only...