how do you feel about the ukrainian army purchasing foreign robotic platforms of one level or another, for one purpose or another, to what extent does this create competition for our manufacturers? i would not talk about the word now, i would not use the word competition now at all, we understand and know the procurement mechanisms, and if it is purchased with foreign funds for the needs of the ukrainian army, then we must understand those who pay this money. that's why we , personally, and our company, of course, support such purchases, we want it to get to us more equipment that will destroy the enemy, so we have both hands, we then have something to compare with, we have a lot of experience in operation, we sometimes have something to grow to or compare to, so i personally have a very positive attitude to such purchases, are there there are some fundamental technical solutions there that are nodal, elemental, which would not interfere

with foreign partners to share with us, in particular, there are management systems, secure communication systems, other things, is there a need for this? at the moment, as far as secure communication systems and so on are concerned, they are foreign partners, when they see such a need and opportunity, they share such technologies not directly with manufacturers, but through the ministry of defense, through the armed forces, therefore... our partners are quite open to us, and i cannot but ask about the actions of the enemy , because the enemy is also making efforts related to the creation of russian robotic platforms, are there any trends, things that we should pay attention to in terms of certain dangers or challenges, whatever, how would you rate it and answered this question? well me again i repeat that we definitely cannot

underestimate our enemy, the enemy is moving in the same way as we are in the direction of developing new robotic systems, and the enemy is becoming more and more of them, he creates them on various platforms, the enemy invests enormous funds in this at the state level, but i want to say that we are definitely not worse, we definitely have nothing to imitate the enemy, we have western partners... who are much more technologically advanced, more developed than the enemy, so ukraine will win and the truth will be behind us. that's for sure. and would like to ask a technical solution why you did bet on the track and not on the wheel when creating a robotic platform, because not all companies decide on this. well, the caterpillar actually has better cross-country ability. considering the dimensions of our platform. we needed such

a passability and exactly such a configuration of the drive, the track itself is not the only and not the most complex element that we had to use in our platform, we have a much more complex element is the actual hydrotransmission drive developed by our company to drive this track, but it a separate topic for conversation. and from the point of view of technical parameters, the power reserve and the maximum... load that this platform can move on the battlefield? well, the parameters are quite relative, because we can take as a basis different types of surfaces, if we are talking about a solid surface, then the platform is able to move a ton of cargo there and transport it 20-25 km. if we are talking about average terrain, depending on the form of cargo attachment, on the shape of the terrain, it can be up to 300 kg.

that is, just the idea and understanding of the average terrain can vary greatly from place to place, it can be waterlogged areas, heavily flooded areas, and accordingly the passability of this technique can be complicated or limited. this technique is far from perfect, its possibilities are unlimited, actually the possibilities of study, the possibilities, sorry for the technicality of this technique, will allow us to use this technique as efficiently as possible. mr. igor, what is the main task you are setting for your team this year: to increase the production of these platforms that are already known military, or create something else new in this robotic field? unfortunately, it seems likely to us that robotics, especially this type of platform, are unlikely to happen as game changers, pardon the buzzword, in this war. therefore

, we do not consider it appropriate to massively increase a certain, certain production of some type of equipment, because we, like most ukrainian manufacturers, do not yet fully understand the... full efficiency of the use of such vehicles, that is why our team will focus on production and on development of new, or on this platform, types of robotic equipment, or completely different types of robotic equipment, of course we will produce all types of equipment in small series, but the focus and our main emphasis will be on the development of actually similar, well not dissimilar, different in terms of functionality. but robotic unmanned platforms, improving their navigation capabilities, their anti-reb capabilities, and their use in other different situations. mr. igor, thank you very much for what you do for our armed forces so that they can

rely on technological solutions. and i will remind our viewers that it was igor chaikivskyi, the head of the robotic complexes project, this team developed the murakh robotic platform. which is already used on the battlefield, and now we see that there will be other projects behind the ant that will be more effective compared to the challenges that exist on the battlefield today. these were the main results of the day, and more political and economic news later on vasyl zima's big broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you very much, serhiy zgorsyu, thank you to his guest, here are some news that should be announced right away, the council without the un is going to a meeting regarding ukraine, i wonder what will be discussed there. russian resources announced an attempt to break through the armed forces of ukraine to the belgorod region, we will talk about this today, i hope with ponomalalyov's idea. well, ukrenergo admitted that

yesterday's attack on energy facilities in ukraine was the largest attack during the entire period of the full-scale invasion, that is, from february 24, 2020. on the 22nd, well, tonight was a continuation, the war continues, and our soldiers need our help as well. the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund opened a very important fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade, as well as for the 110th and 47th mechanized brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. the defenders of donetsk region every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and... future, give up, unfortunately, both health and the most precious life, and it is this equipment, it should first of all help preserve the priceless lives of our soldiers, well and also to strike the enemy, because these are the soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring, when it was very difficult, when the enemy

pressed from all sides, tried to create cauldrons, then it was possible to get out with incredible efforts, the brigades urgently need flying weapons and modern means of countering the enemy . drone our goal is ambitious, but real. uah 3.5 million. every donation you make is important. get involved. you can see all the details on the screen and listen to our defenders. good health, dear ukrainians. we are the fighters of the first assault battalion, the third separate assault brigade, which will defend our native land on the front line. we urgently need your help. we need means of electronic warfare against small bpols, we ask for your help, glory to ukraine, heroes, heroes, glory, so please join me, i will ask my colleagues to tell me somewhere closer to the end of our broadcast, how much we have already managed to collect, but i know for sure that there was an amount,

well closer to 2 million, maybe, and maybe, well , later i will say, a more adequate amount, which will correspond to the real situation. regarding this gathering, now we will talk with olea ponomerov, deputy of the state duma of the russian federation in 2007-2016, panel, i welcome you, good evening, and a few important topics that we will discuss, well, let's start with the events from the president's statements of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, he said that after actually repeating or confirming what was said before in the kremlin, but not repeating it, namely confirming that now... there is no subject for negotiations with putin, in your opinion, when can this subject, not with putin, but with russia in general, appear, and why is it so clear now that one and the other side, well, the side that is currently defending itself, and attacking at the same time as well as the aggressor side, say that no,

it can't be, as if there should have been negotiations before that, please, well, the thing is that putin is actually very interested in these negotiations, because... he cannot win, and i believe that he is more or less then realizes this, and he needs to somehow announce his victory, well, first of all for... dear the russians and tell them that we have achieved the goals we set for ourselves, and we can stop this svo and move on, but there is no such sign that we can come to an agreement with ukraine, because ukraine is not in this at all interested, and any negotiations that may now be probable for... for mr. putin, for ukraine, this is, well, obviously a defeat,

and well, even there a certain part of society there before the kurdish operation, it started to hesitate there, but now we see that we can win and that is solely a question of our political and military strategy, i believe that we simply need to realize that the only way to... victory is the destruction of the russian empire, the destruction of this regime, the destruction of putin, and this is exactly what we need to direct our steps towards. well, we see that putin blames the failures of his own, his army, his military-political leadership, because from what i heard and read, well, they allegedly tried to explain to putin that there is a threat from the ukrainian side, but of course, the system of dictatorship is built like this authoritarian that you

never say what you don't want to hear host, and actually now the situation is difficult for russia in the kursk region, today the russian media already write about the fact that the armed forces of ukraine allegedly tried to break into the belgorod region, well, here i think it is not worth commenting, we will have to find out there, and in response to this putin struck the largest blow during the entire period of full-scale invasion of objects. of energy, in your opinion, understanding the possible logic, well, if it has not changed so much recently in the direction of some disease, the logic of the kremlin, what putin tried to achieve and whether your opinion, he is now sitting and thinking, well , actually, they achieved what they wanted, but they are sitting without light, well, that's all, and what's next, please, well, of course, the logic here is to take revenge and... the logic to force there the political leadership of ukraine to give up and leave

the territory of the kurdish region, but we understand that this will not happen, and in all these attacks on the energy infrastructure, there is one question that they will not hit the nuclear power plants there, well here it's just that... that's what will cause such a powerful backlash reaction around the world, and that is why putin will not do it, and this determines that half of the energy consumption in ukraine is there, it will always be there, there will be a problem from the point of view of the so-called maneuverable capacities there, and this is exactly what they are trying to destroy, but here... i would say that it is interesting that they attacked not only

the energy sector, but also the gas supply facility in terms of infrastructure, through which the gas goes to europe, here is an interesting question, well, on the one hand, it is clear that they are there they want to destroy the underground storage, just like in winter ukraine did not... there were some natural gas warehouses there, well, but this is such a very serious problem from the point of view of gas export for the russian federation itself, that they are thinking about it there, but it is very interesting, and i i think, first lukashenko and the possible threat from bilusa, let's talk about kurshchyna now, and we'll have time there, because lukashenko made another statement, acting as a republican pedagogue. gic council, regarding the fact that he is being offered to side with ukraine, ukraine in the war against the russian

federation, there is an interesting quote from him, one interesting, but let's talk about it later, now about kurshchyna, and you are that politician, we discussed with my colleagues, i said my personal opinion that if i were to choose a russian, one who could perform certain political functions or administrative functions on the territory , which is under the control of ukrainian troops. on the chicken, then it would be you, because you are here with us, the shaheds are coming for you and you have definitely become the age of ukraine. now i want to hear your opinion: firstly, how do you rate all of them? dovi now of what is in the kurshchyna, with from what you can tell, from what we know, i think you know more, but from what you can tell, the reaction of the population, how the population is provided, how it affects public opinion in russia in general, or whether it affects in any way , and are you ready, in particular , to head the government in kursk, if the question comes to that, because it is clear that ukraine, well , will not annex russian territory to itself, well, a certain one, but, but, please,

well, look, first of all, i think... it exists in general, but for ukraine now there is such a very difficult choice, because there is pressure from there from the united states, who say that it should be treated exclusively as a buffer zone,

well, remember, our previous experience there ... a state where we had to wriggle away, and then what to do with such structures of power that you will form in the controlled territories, take it as a buffer zone temporarily, and then there will be an exchange for something, and this will greatly slow down this situation, i do not believe in any negotiations there and in exchanges and... in such a termination of fire there or certainly there in the future and that it is simply the only one the way to victory in this war, and if we are talking about victory, then of course it is necessary to create actual authorities in these territories, well, authorities of the russians who are allied with

ukraine, and who will do it in partnership and under the... supervision of ukraine , as for me personally, of course, i believe that it would be wrong if a person from other regions of russia, and i was a representative of novosibirsk for many years, in moscow, a representative of siberia, it would be wrong if we do it, we can do it to build, and the congress of people's deputies was created with from the very beginning in order to build this new power. new legislation, new rules of the game, new law enforcement, conduct a lustration, well and and and and everything else, but there are people just from kurshchyna and they are part of the congress of people's deputies, we know many people who can be there directly and it is necessary to create self-government there now, we can do it, many deputies of the congress are ready

to advance to the territory of kurshchyna even tomorrow, the main thing is that ukraine should have it. it is necessary for the ukrainian political leadership to say yes that is what we want, that is, in order for you to start active political-administrative activities, the armed forces of ukraine together, perhaps with the russians who will join, must go beyond the urals, the whole task, as they say, is clear, to reach novosibirsk , well, that's right, i'm not kidding, we can't predict what might happen next, what processes might be, by the way, regarding the processes, in your opinion, well, we're seeing an epiphany now. well, in a word, some such insights

are happening locally, but in your opinion, what else is there? it should happen that some... significant cracks go in this monolith, well, the conditional monolith of the kremlin's moscow domination over russia, so that some kind of people's movement begins, a people's movement, this means the army as well, because the army is also a people's movement, well in fact , what happened in the 17th year in russia was repeated only without the october revolution with lenin, and also the movement of business elites, because individual statements, let's say rascals, were unequivocal in that everything is not going that way, that is, the statements are , but what has yet to happen, again in order to have begun... do you not believe in the self-organized popular movement in russia now? yes, i don't believe it, because people don't believe that they are capable of changing anything on their own, and there are the moscow ones

inside russia, they are now very powerful, and even official sociology, it shows that many people are against the central government, against putin, that is, they tolerate it, they do not see an alternative, it is the alternative itself, by the way, that is so important that this alternative is created in the kurshchyna, but they are not ready to do something, now ours, so to speak, is targeted the audience, these are the elites, the elites understand that this is a dead end, they understand that they are losing money, they understand that this is a danger, they understand that this war cannot be won, and they are the ones who can... uh, create there is a new rebellion there, go against, go against putin there, well, do something, in

the people’s movement, i believe after the changes, and i believe that here you were joking about the urals there and all that stuff, we don’t need to go to the urals, we don't even need to go there to tulev pronizh, there to smolensk and other cities, we need to go exclusively to... moscow, what mr. prigozhin did, he did because he knew what needed to be done in russia, we need to get to moscow, and even now what we are observing in kurshchyna that no one will defend it, no one there is ready to defend their territory, this is not ukraine, and it is necessary to strike at moscow, but it should be done there, first of all, the legion of freedom of russia is there, other russians voluntarily. units, and it is necessary to grow them just a little so that they are able to do this, this is not so much that is still needed

to do in this direction. tell me, please, if we're talking, let's talk about lukashenka now, because it's important, there is a certain group there now, from what i read from the military, it's about a thousand-strong group of the belarusian army, plus there is a weight. those that are as close as possible to the borders with ukraine, and there was a statement from the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine that move to a distance that does not allow you to hit ukrainian territory with the means you have of fire damage, well, everything will be fine with you then, well, but again, the military say that for now it is impossible to talk about any threat of invasion, because there are a thousand people there or how many, well, it is not exactly about an invasion, but lukashenko can play a different role, the role of stretching and pulling ukrainian troops away from again... the same kurdish direction, or his expansion into russia, or other directions that may be needed, where reinforcements may be needed, and so lukashenko said very well, and why am i talking

about the deployment of troops, because we can say move our groups to zhytomyr oblast and then to volyn, then to kyiv , and of course there are our troops everywhere, but they also have to monitor this instead of monitoring combat operations, and lukashenko could simplify our task as much as possible, but so far he does not simplify it, he only complicates it, but he said: a very important phrase, well, very symptomatic: lukashenko declares, this is again, he made a statement during the republican pedagogical council, and lukashenko declares that he is allegedly being thrown from the side, from the side, suggestions, quote, to spit on this russia and turn away from it, according to him , belarus cannot accept such proposals, but here it is important, by 99%. tell me, please, he says something about smolyansk there and so on and so on. why 99%, why not 125, as his election results? please? well, look, i think that paying attention to such numbers

is just pointless. lukashenka has his own very clear and simple game. he doesn't want to directly intervene in this war, he... doesn't want to take risks, he understands that putin's time is up, he wants to outwit him, that's why he attracted these nuclear weapons to his territory, so that he himself to look like a nuclear country and so that no one from the west could remove him from office from office there. the president, but i think that the belarusians themselves will do it, well, but he hopes that it will protect him, i think that all these maneuvers are near the ukrainian

border there. of course, this is under pressure from moscow, moscow asks him, well, withdraw the troops, and he says, well, okay, cross the border, i’m not ready, but to rattle weapons there, of course, this, this, this is possible, and this will do the same, that ukrainians will be forced to transfer theirs units there from other areas of the front there to the borders with belarus, but well... "of course, you want peace, you are preparing for war there, but well, i don't believe that lukashenko will actually cross the border there, and in general i believe that he will play this game for many more times, well, i will only remind you that before the beginning of the full-scale invasion, i don't know how the situation is now, belarus had an armed force of 40 thousand, this does not mean only combat units, it is the armed forces in general, there is aviation, anti-aircraft fire,

anti-aircraft villages." there are missile troops, tank troops troops, well, that’s a total of 40,000, it’s clear that you even lost a plus, how much ammunition did they give to putin when he started his battle for the so -called donbas there, that is, what are the warehouses there now, what do they have, what for they are capable, it is hard to imagine, especially since the war has now progressed so far, and belarus simply will not have time to learn how to fight as it should, what i read from the ukrainian military, who are there on the ukrainian border, well, they are so very described in detail what... what will happen, what will stop this russian influx, yes, but again, there is a threat, it should not be downplayed, but, well, reject it, but again, and look at things more realistically, i would also like to see such a moment, which is very important, the president of ukraine, on the one hand , ukraine says to our partners in the usa, give permission to strike with long-range weapons of the usa, in particular attack ms, ballistic missiles on the territory, deep into the territory of russia, already from the territory of russia,

in fact cut. there are cassette, non-cassette, which, which will be needed for the impression of airfields, logistics and many, many others things, well, or let's say, like in the proletarian one, where this oil depot burned for two weeks, and the usa thinks and will think, on the other hand, the missiles that are now flying to ukraine have new components made specifically in the usa, and ukraine already has specialists who investigate this supply chain, that is, they are also working on it, and it is also possible to impose it here. and this, too, cannot be completely stopped, but slowed down. please tell me what has to happen for the us to say yes, strike, or they say strike and we don't know about it, and here the president says before that everything, but ukraine has already tested the first ballistic missile, that is, even if you do not allow it, we already have it, will this push the usa to still decide that let's go and we will join, please, well, look, first of all i believe that it is necessary...

first to strike, and then to make excuses, and i believe that just like in the case of kursk, where no one consulted there, because even our president frankly said that he understood what was there there will be no permission, and vice versa, that there will be resistance to this decision, which is exactly why this operation... kursk began, and then they found out that the americans are not against it at all, but why would they be against it, they are on the contrary, they want to join the successes, they do not want to take risks, but any politician wants to join the successes, and that is why i believe that you have to beat first, and then there will simply be no problems, and this

applies not only. only the essence of military operations there, and also such political steps, because the americans forbid ukraine to create authorities there on these liberated territories of purshchyna, this is exactly what the americans say that they do not want to destroy putinism, because they believe that there will be a civil war, nuclear chaos there. nuclear devices can get there by various gentiles and that this is an unpleasant risk for them, it is they who slow down this whole process, but we need to achieve our own interests and, of course , pay attention to our american partners, because they are key partners for us, but to understand what there is...