with aid, the latest taboos and restrictions, meaningless dialogue: the ukrainian leadership does not see the point in negotiations with russia, but even in moscow they say that they do not want a conversation with kyiv against the background of the kurdish operation, does this cancel out the prospects of a global peace summit? an unbreakable team member of the president, zelenskyi gives a tough rebuff to critics of his administration. five managers against the background of criminal prosecution of other powerful people, which are still symptoms of the degeneration of the power system in ukraine. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, we are talking continuously the next hour about the war, about ukraine, as well as about what is happening. in ukrainian

society, today we commemorate the defenders of ukraine, today is the day of memory of the defenders of ukraine, eternal memory of those who gave their lives for our freedom and independence in the fight against the russian invaders. during the next hour, the guests of today 's broadcast will be major of the armed forces of ukraine, ihor lapin, a political commentator. and maksym rozumny, doctor of political sciences, and oleg rybachuk, former head of yushchenko's presidential office. let's talk about ukrainian front, and not only ukrainian, and kursk, including, about what is happening now in the ukrainian sky, because literally before the program there was information that an f-16 fighter crashed during the attack of the russian invaders on the 26th. since august

, f-16 aircraft participated in the destruction of aerial targets launched by russia over the territory of ukraine. unfortunately, the pilot died (tragic) news that arrived just a few minutes before our broadcast. and of course, let's talk about zelenskyi's peace plan, with which he plans to go to joseph in september biden we will talk about all this during the next hour. however, before starting our... conversation, i suggest watching a video of how the paratroopers of the 46th separate automobile brigade showed how to destroy the occupiers and equipment in the mariyansk direction, in particular, they succeeded in incinerating the so-called pride of the russians, the t-90 tank. let's watch this enchanting video.

glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, we conduct polls throughout our broadcast. today we ask you about the current system authorities in ukraine. do you think it is effective? yes, no, everything is quite on youtube.

simply, if you have your own opinions, please write under this video on youtube and subscribe to our pages on social networks, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers 0, 800 211 381 , if you think the current system of government in ukraine is effective, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote: at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. let's start with the tragic the news, which i already mentioned at the beginning, is that, unfortunately, during the repulse of a missile strike by the russian federation on the territory of ukraine, together with units of the anti-aircraft missile forces, f-16 fighters of the armed forces of ukraine were used in an aerial battle, f-16 planes shot down both missiles and missiles at... during the approach to the next

target, communication with one of the planes was lost, as reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, it turned out that the plane suffered. crash, the pilot died , a special commission was appointed to find out the causes of the accident of the ministry of defense of ukraine, which works in the area where the plane fell. it is interesting that this news, that the f-16 crashed, was first reported by foreign media. the wall street journal submitted this information, it is already the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in pursuit of this information, made this information public. they write about the fact that colonel oleksiy mes died, he is a ukrainian pilot who did an incredible job to get ukraine f-16 fighters, and today they said goodbye to him, you see, these are photos of the pilot's farewell, posthumously

he was awarded the rank of colonel, obviously the details of this plane crash will be revealed a little later, well... we will follow the news reports. i would like to introduce today's first guest, ihor lapin, major of the armed forces of ukraine, special agent, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. mr. igor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. so we started with this tragic news about the plane crash and the f-16 disaster. the details have not yet been reported, and the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, and general staff, but... as a person who has been in contact with aviation for a long time, you certainly, well , understand that in wartime anything can happen, including with the f-16, that is, we hoped that it would some kind

of lifeline for the armed forces of ukraine and a powerful shield, but what could happen in this situation, that is, maybe the pilots were not so experienced. have these machines not worked out enough, can some versions be made public, or guess what? look, honestly, i don't allow a pilot's mistake, because at least he's not young anymore the pilot, who graduated from the academy yesterday, learned to fly and re-learned on the f-16, so something to me, well, let’s put it this way, i don’t want to catch up now, let them conduct an investigation, of course, but to me it is more like friendly fire, that is, on a friendly fire , especially since, well, as i understand it, the pilot wasn't even able to eject, so to say that on the approach to the second go-around, that they lost contact and the pilot died, so it's, well, let's say if everything was fine with the pilot, he would have ejected, and if he

couldn't do that, it could have been, well, sorry, let's put it this way, it's, well, it's my guess, let the investigation show of course, but you know what i pointed out in the context of this news, so the united states did not make the request to the lockhead flight center regarding the training of ukrainian pilots, even despite the problem with the terms of training at their own training centers. and this was just announced by the representatives of the company, this is the len martin european pilot training center in romania, which recently graduated the first group of eight pilots, fighters the f-16 is about to start training new ones, and they say that they are ready to expand... the number of pilots that can be released during the year is more than 30 and 40, so you can imagine, yes, but nevertheless our partners for some reason did not address this context, for ukrainian pilots to study in romania, and this makes me think that, you know, this savior that

everyone here is praying for, but no matter how cool our pilots are, no matter how cool those f-16s are , the russians have a total advantage in the sky, no matter what... the russians fly close 400 boards, and ten of us want to cover something, missile attacks, we will not cover with ten boards, we will not achieve dominance in the sky with ten boards, and most importantly, the loss of a board is compared to the fact that the loss of a pilot is completely different things, so, if we do not continue training our pilots, there will be no new sets, then this is a one-time promotion or something like that... understand, well, i still can’t, i don’t have such an explanation, of course, it must be the work of our diplomacy, but i emphasize once again, taking into account military rank, i saw the same photo as you, the age of this pilot, i don't think it could have been a pilot's mistake, especially, again, in the absence

of the russian air force in the air, it is meant, that is, missiles, shahedis, well, i have something, let's say, i want to be wrong, but i... still think about friendly fire, well, let's wait for the official results of this investigation, i think that there will definitely be one, and the public will be informed about it, because it the first f16 plane, which... was destroyed in the sky of ukraine, and that's it, too, or zaznavna plane crash, the reasons must obviously still be named in some perspective. mr. major, let's talk about the future. mr. major, let's talk about what is currently happening in kurshchyna, and zelenskyi has already spoken, and syrskyi has spoken about the fact that we want to push back the enemy and create a buffer zone for... will the ukrainians succeed not only in trying to create this buffer zone, and

keep? just before your broadcast on my youtube channel lapin from ukraine we discussed this topic with yuri lutsenko. what conclusion did you come to? well, first of all, we have now actually added another 300 km of the front line. question are we going to hold this territory? even i read a publication in the voice of america, where they actually say that there are three possible scenarios: the first scenario, we continue the raid war, and i emphasize that this is, well, in my deep conviction, this is the best option, the second option, we start to dig in there , gain a foothold and add more than 300 km of front line, having no advantage either in terms of personnel, numbers, or tanks, not in artillery, not in shells and not in the sky. well, to be honest, from the point of view of, let 's say, an infantry combatant, well, i

wouldn't underestimate these risks, especially since mr. general muzhenko spoke about this, i fully support him so that it doesn't turn out like this, you know, well, it's mine already an interpretation of these theses, but so that it does not turn out that we did not miss a very serious problem of the pokrov direction and in general of our ukrainian donbass, according to the kursk victorious relations, do we have enough strength for this, of course with... only syrsky, because he knows how much we have, what, where and how much and how, this is another story, further, if we are entrenched, then we need to blow up the defensive structures, listen, well, we are already at the defensive structures, we can talk now anything, but according to the previous reports of one of the representatives of the temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada, mykhailo bondar, they found embezzlement of approximately 20 billion in defense facilities, and the sbu opened about 30 criminal proceedings in this regard, and this was not yet official report of the tsk, that is why i am very interested, we

will build these defense structures for, or instead of, or at some expense, at whose expense, well, but nevertheless, okay, maybe there are options on how to build defense structures, once again i emphasize, plus 300 km of the front line, this is a very serious problem, the question is whether we will forever hold these boundaries and ensure security? to the citizens of the kursk region, and they will go as volunteers to defend their territory, or maybe some local self-government bodies will be created there, maybe there russian oppositionists will come with humanitarian convoys and will help the residents to survive during the war, or is it possible that the russians will simply raze that kurshchyna and everything else to the ground, as they usually do in our territory, having a total advantage in artillery, so we are going there be how much, you know - i, well, let's say this, there is also one option, for which experts say that you need to be able

to leave in time, closing the door behind you, because the russians today from their northern, so to speak, northern , of its part st. petersburg and so on, are pulling troops there towards kurshchyna, and in this context , the effect that we expected, well, as some have said, this is one of the effects that we... expect them to take troops from of the pokrov direction, did not come true, did not come true anymore, therefore maneuverable war is our everything, to enter a static front, i see very big risks behind this, well, in conclusion , i recommend viewers to go to my channel, there is one more point about the reasons, why did the kurdish operation begin, who proposed it, about how they tried to shoot general syrskyi, the next chief commissar... let's say zelenskyi, how they planned it in yermak's office,

and what prevented them, so i urge your viewers to come and watch today's stream with lutsenko, well, none the less , closing the issue of the kurdish operation, how necessary or not, i don't want to diminish it because it made very big serious points geopolitically, all the brown lines of fear that looked like shit and smelled like shit, the ones on ... do you have a lot of westerns? politicians, all these brown lines of fear, ukraine passed, putin's red lines, with which putin threatened the whole world, including. so famous one of the serious politicians, mr. sullivan, who also talked about these red lines that cannot be crossed and so on. ukraine passed and what we saw, we saw that the greatness of russia and the russian army was completely leveled, they could not hold their villages, such as guyevo

and drochevo. sorry, these are the exact names of these villages, so if they can't hold these villages about... such an opportunity for russia, for russia to rule the whole world, to claim to be the number one geopolitical player, so these are the moments, the kurdish operation did just that, the rhetoric of the western partners changed radically, everyone started saying that the ukrainians have the right, and they have the right to ride leopard tanks, and they have the right to use bradleys, moreover, let's not forget about 600 new military prisoners of war plus the kadyrs. in this story, this is a very positive result in order to replenish our exchange fund, once again i emphasize, i am with the boys, i have two godfathers fighting in the turkish direction, they say that everyone has to do what they have to do, the boys were given an order, they carry it out there, let them work, we have to hold the lines here in turkey, and in in principle, there are no such people, you know, who are fringes among the soldiers, that oh, it would be better

if they supported us here, why did they go there, there are no such things in the armed forces, everyone understands that this is a war. is the plan of the headmaster, and regardless of surnames, by the way, i want to say that we are all equal soldiers will carry out combat orders, here the question is one, the question is that these orders should be correct, and not such as the defenders were told to turn around, surrender their weapons, we will exchange you and keep you, everyone knows the result, well, roughly, here is the head of the armed forces of ukraine, serskyi, whom you they mentioned, mr. major, that i visited pokrovsky. direction and wrote on his resources in social networks that the most intense battles in the pokrovsky direction are taking place in the eastern outskirts of grodivka, novohorodivka and mykhailivka. the battles are extremely tough , the enemy throws everything he can into the battle move and advance, trying to break through

the defenses of our troops. our fighters show courage and heroism in battles with superior forces. the enemy, wrote sirskyi. at the same time, a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine yevhen ievlev, with the call sign sheikh, spoke on espresso about the situation in the pokrovsky and turkish directions, where the enemy does not stop pressing. let's hear what he said. indeed, there is no weakening of the positions, or there is a decrease in the number of equipment, or a decrease in the number of personnel, that is, for one and a half to two months, this is constant. storms constant rush without any pauses for some regroupings, for some rotations and so on, that is, it cannot be said that the enemy is there, that the enemy has a shortage of troops or personnel, and i know that this happens both in our turkish direction, that is the case with the brothers and in the pokrovsky direction, that is, the situation is really quite complicated, and the reasons for such complexity are not the only one,

geographical properties, on which they counted that the enemy there would not advance on them and would not leave, unfortunately, there well this is the same if we talk about local there our commanders, for example, the platoon commanders there, the roto commanders, their thoughts, unfortunately, did not come true a little, and the enemy is going to navala, they are climbing from all the cracks. mr. mayor, what can we expect in the future on these directions, well, in particular , on turetsky and pokrovsky, that is, putin still wants to go to pokrovsky and in this way then develop an offensive on the dnipro and zaporizhzhia, or? he has another goal, well , let's be frank, if he goes to pokrovsk, it is not to develop an offensive on zaporizhzhia, but from the zaporizhia front as well will move and press our defense forces from below, that's for sure, the ugledar will have serious problems and so on, but what i'm paying attention to today, you understand, the enemy has now reached the heights, in fact already his advanced units already, if

not i'm wrong, the selidovo mines went in yesterday, this guy is there now near novohorodivka... the horse is still holding, but actually the settlement itself , 14,000 people lived there before the war, they took it, well, excuse me, with a bang, not even leveling it with the ground, remember you're welcome, bakhmut is it the same time there, they are actually leveling everything up to the foundation with arta and then they already go to the construction debris, because there is nothing to hang on to, but this time there was no such thing, the enemy very cunningly and competently changed tactics, they left in small groups of two or three people, concentrating in... some fortified places, and then they already make assaults, and in this context you need to understand that nobody will waste a projectile on two or three orcs, because well get lost no one would run after two or three soldiers of the russian armed forces there will be, but the problem with fpv drones, it will be very acute now, i want to remind all

the viewers today about this, by the way , magyar already wrote that china, some news that china is stopping deliveries, sending from china of any components for drones, motors, drones, cameras, everything related to electronics, they stop shipping now. private parcels, and this is a serious problem, because our entire drone system is built on volunteer supplies, i don't know how to react today, how to circumvent china's ban, but to me it looks like forcing ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table on the terms of china-russia, i watch it, and you understand that when there are such meaty assaults, when they are in these groups of two or three people , well, we can only knock them out with drones, and now there will be no more drones, and here it is in this context. i believe that the state leadership should think, because as far as i understand, from the position of china, only commercial cargo will be sent,

nothing will be sent in private parcels, well, they are wrapped in such a foil, supposedly the fight against terrorism, because fpv drones are used for terrorist attacks and so on, well, but we all understand very well that if this issue is closed in ukraine, then there are no shells, there are no drones, what next, well, that is to understand , i don’t want to incite panic right now, of course... but this post by the magyar worried me, i started to look on the internet, as they say, searched the news, there is already a message from the logistics company of the city, which is engaged in the delivery of parcels from china, they confirmed and that the list of items prohibited from being shipped from china is actually a ban on our garage cooperatives, who make drones, that is , only commercial cargo can be shipped, i think we need to go to a different level here. because we will not close this issue with a volunteer shuttle movement. thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, it was ihor lapin, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special officer,

a people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook. for those who are currently watching us live there, please subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following: do you think it is effective? the system of government in ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under this video, if you watch us on television, that is, on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for numbers 0.800 211 381, if you consider the current system of power in ukraine is effective, if you think it is not effective, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free. next on the air is oleg rybachuk, head of the center for joint actions, former deputy prime minister for european integration and former head

of yushchenko's presidential administration, mr. oleg, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, congratulations, kind evening, let's go mr. olezh, let's talk about the possibility or impossibility of negotiations with the russian federation, today the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine oleksandr syrskyi. on the 10th anniversary of the battles for ilovatsk, he remembered all ukrainian defenders who died in the war with russia and emphasized that negotiations with an aggressor are a deadly dangerous matter. what syrsky writes: this day should always remind us of the insidiousness and treachery of the russian aggressor, that any negotiations with terrorists and murderers are a mortally dangerous business, and that they cannot be trusted. the day before, president zelenskyi said that a dialogue with putin would be meaningless today, as the russian dictator does not want the war to end diplomatically, does this mean that all the preparation and all the work that was done as

part of the first peace summit, and the preparation for the second peace summit, has now simply been nullified, because putin believes that ukraine crossed the line by entering the territory of kurshchyna, and zelenskyi says about the fact that he talks to putin without meaning in general. because he does not want to end the war diplomatically, well, i do not think that this means that we no longer have prospects for contacts, especially since we have such a big competition for mediators, he is now the prime minister of india, who for the first time visited ukraine since independence, already there and talked with putin and shijin pin , and where we see, we see a great... effort of serious players, because india is a serious player, china is a serious player, who are looking for opportunities for such a conversation, but there are,

there are certain ones. if we abstract from putin, then when the parties are preparing for difficult negotiations, they always declare such extreme or maximum positions in order to be able to reach some agreements later. our problem is that we are not really us we can talk with russia, which is headed by putin, well, because putin, if he promises something, it means that he keeps it, that's the whole story. and putin's russia, personally, and we can call as witnesses macron, soltz, biden, many world politicians, to whom putin told a few days before the attack on ukraine that it would never happen, that it was impossible, that russia would never who was not attacked, that is why these conversations, which we already hear in the ukrainian information space, about the possibility, inevitability, even some they say, the next minsk, she... they

are not about anything, but military efforts, including the kurdish operation, which you paid so much attention to, because i just returned from an international conference in chisinau, i was just driving the route where there will stand someday, probably a memorial sign that here a people's deputy crossed the moldovan moldovan border, i was just on the 24th, and... on independence day in chisinau and under the deep guidance of a conversation with the president of moldova, well, we'll talk about it , because it was a topic of european integration, european integration, and there were, there were no americans , there were no russians, but there was ukraine, georgia, moldova, and of course the western balkans, and the topic was about how negotiations on the acquisition of membership can and will proceed, and there are a lot of interesting things for for for ukraine moments.

sounded, but if we are talking now about the situation with russia, then it is clear that the parties are still trying to strengthen their own positions, and i just watched zelensky’s press conference, it was so light, and i happened to be at his press conference, television broadcast , i noticed that he that a third, probably, or more of the correspondents' questions were precisely about that, and what kind of exchange rate operation, why? what is it, what is the goal, but i can tell you the impression from high-level diplomats that i heard in chisinau, what and what even the president of moldova spoke about, that every time ukraine surprises the world once again, demonstrating the ability to strike unexpected blows and and for forcing the russians there to either retreat or

suffer significant losses, then in principle. the politics of russia and the mood are changing in general, because the main refrain of georgian politicians, and moldovan, and balkan, one thing was that the victory of ukraine gives a real possibility of prospects and building peace there on the european continent. and tell me, mr. oleg, you spoke with the representatives of moldova and georgia, i understood that, but did you? do they not want, at this time, when we are fighting for our independence and for our territories, do they not want to fight for those territories that are now temporarily under the control of the russian federation, i.e. transnistria, and in the caucasus, well, i just wondering, because i heard different numbers there, what such is the armed forces of moldova, some

experts said that... there are less than a thousand of them there, but the head of the office of the president of moldova said that they have about 500 military personnel there, but this is with all the border guards, and it is clear that they are not those the armed forces that moldova could operate with, there are a large million moldovans who have romanian passports, but they are definitely not soldiers, moldova does not even talk about soldiers. attempt by georgians, they remember very well the events of 2008, and the georgian leaders were there, the ex-minister of foreign affairs was there affairs of georgia, the leaders of georgian political parties are there, they already have elections in the fall, and the current government, which is openly pro-russian, is very skillful in using...