politics and the establishment of peace or victory, this is what diplomacy deals with, in the process of strengthening some positions, not through negotiations, to create a platform somewhere, but this does not replace any peace summits, they do not replace these letters that i will send, they do not replace anything, absolutely, but letters can be transmitted at least dozens, if you have a certain position, it's one story, if not, then not, so it can and will be a visit of... the president to new york for the un general assembly, as a rule, it is used for bilateral meetings, it can be at the same time visiting washington, if all this is prepared, i think it is normal, but the only reason why you and i did not discuss it earlier, yes, because everyone was focused on the fall, as some such turning point, and we we see after kursk, and after... the russian movements further in

the donetsk region, it's all simply transferred. diplomacy now, i'll tell you honestly, it doesn't work much, it's a weapon that works now, and all this diplomacy is postponed for later. the best diplomat of the zsu now, well , of course, well, you can talk like that, and here i would, you know, these stamps, i wouldn't put them, here it is not in the sense that the best diplomat of the armed forces of ukraine. the fact is that diplomacy appears when... the weapon is already silent, and why, here it is important, it is important that people understand and do not bet what he says, what is called a horse behind, in front of a cart, behind, behind, yes , what was happening, initially there were many efforts in bilateral relations between ukraine and russia to avoid war, primarily ukraine did it, compromises, starting with the base on the territory of ukraine, the black sea fleet.

although it was difficult to decide immediately, but it is possible it was in the 10th year, it would have been tougher there, if yanukovych had not been the prime minister, the president already then, it is not a fact that history has not moved forward, because president yushchenko already raised the issue of withdrawing the fleet, well, at least start the process, yes then volodymyr hryska went to moscow and spoke in ukrainian there, which had to be brought out, that is, we went to such compromises. mass and have already reached such a point where it is not us, again, but russia, in the 14th year started a war against ukraine and then in the 22nd a large-scale war, this is already as a result that all our diplomatic efforts did not lead to a solution, people for some reason expect that the war will be stopped by diplomatic efforts, on the contrary, diplomatic efforts have not ended... well, after the continuation of peace,

war followed, so this is the logic, i meet a lot of people who do not understand this, they think it's because, well, we need to sit down peacefully, talk, yes, there are a lot of people, i recently went to sumy oblast closer to the border there, the same conversations, well , after such bombs that you showed the cable , well , of course people will say, well, it should be stopped, people are dying, it seems to be so clear. but the problem is that russia, she, she didn't listen to us before, she will kill until the moment of surrender, therefore, in conclusion, i will say, the peace summit, the one that the second one, if frankly, could have been successful, well, with the completion of the results , like the summit of the soft capitulation of ukraine, well, soft, i mean, where all the international partners will sit down, we will pat you on the shoulder, we will still be... we can help you for a year there and

still give money , but this is your surrender, this definitely a peace summit in terms of how it was being prepared now and what events are happening at the front, this is a summit of soft surrender, now the formula or how it is a plan for victory, victory sounds like you see a change of position, well, let's see, because we understand it , what is the victory plan, i say that it is the same deoccupation of territories as the peace formula. the same exchange for all our prisoners, the responsibility of invaders, occupiers, all the same positions, plus victory, and if victory, then no war of attrition, because a war of attrition cannot be victorious if it is waged only on your territory, if it is waged in kharkiv, sumy, kyiv, then it is not a victory if it is moscow, st. petersburg, moscow. so be it,

then there will already be talk of victory, we do, our partners do not consider it that way, by the way, why don't they ask questions, now, our delegation there, you are talking about a war on heights. sion, excuse me, and at the same time you say that it cannot be on the territory of russia, then what are you talking about, this is the logic, just the logic that you have definition, well, the people are ukrainians, they understand why on our territory, yes, now they have gone beyond this framework and again everyone has started some kind of chronic irritation there, because escalation, escalation again, well, then you don’t say that this is a war of attrition, therefore the plan of victory can be, only it can be must be concentrated. for the entire supply of weapons now, this should be all that is planned, relatively speaking, there for 3-4 years, it should be in six months, then this is a plan for victory, well yes, and it is quite clear that our western partners are now, well, not even speaking as a guarantor

of the security of ukraine, and act as a guarantor of putin's security, because if they do not allow strikes on the territory of the russian federation, then they, he is in their custody, well... you have to tell them about it directly, they are now guaranteeing the security of russia, they guarantee security now, well, not putin's security, after all, you can't say that, because it's putin's regime, well, they keep putin's regime in this way, because they don't give ukra, well, they don't give enough opportunity or support, they give support , we must thank them so that it is clear that ukraine existed, but in their understanding, ukraine exists, in which... dons, with what internal mood, they do not care, ukraine exists, and this is in fact, they say that they should thank and bow, excuse me, this is their national interest, when they have a barrier between nato and the eu and russia, that is, a barrier that we

stand for, we guarantee, ukraine now guarantees the security of poland, slovakia, the baltic countries, hungary, romania, at least, i am not talking about germany. france for obvious reasons, yes, they have additional levers, and these countries on the border, ukraine now guarantees safety, by the way, they honestly say this, especially in the baltic countries, and thank you, because it is clear that the country is bigger, the territory is bigger, they could already just walk through them like georgia, how the tanks entered tbilisi and did not know, what to do with it, no one in the world, so i think that diplomacy should be conducted, but we have... there is such a problem, we initially have such loud statements, you and i will discuss it for a couple of months, it is not known that something is being transmitted there , and i would not like ukrainians to be faced with the fact that the victory plan it turns out, well, i don't want to continue

the nuances there, yes, i think, according to president zelenskyi's mood, no, i don't think that there will be anything like that, well, relatively speaking, we will be merged there, no, that will not happen. on the contrary, i think that he will write exactly these positions there, an increase in sanctions, an increase in the provision of weapons, but as a result, it will be, well, unfortunately, the same reaction as now, practically, and one more moment, but not now tre, here is the usa, let's take it, you can cook in different ways, and the plan for victory, of course, you can talk about it there weapons, everything, and tell candidate trump there that... to play along with him, that he is a great leader, if, if he becomes the president, he will solve everything, and you can ask the question to your partners now, if you are the president, she or he, you come, and what kind of tools do you

even have to solve the issues in the war with ukraine, there is only tools, they put pressure on ukraine, half of the finances, remember, were not provided from the package, conditionally provided only until the 20th. january and will decide, i understand, the new president, joseph biden, the current president, cannot use these funds, then not the whole package will be processed for the production of weapons, and the most important thing is that no one for some reason stopped talking about it, i have the impression that it is not just an impression, i know this in the ministry of legal affairs, in the office of the president at all now they are not pushing our. there are no partners in america for next year’s lendlease toolkit, the law has expired, we tried there, at first we agreed, we don’t need lendlease, we don’t need it, why don’t we need it, moreover, the nsdc apparatus put out a whole explanation why

we don’t need it, more that, the one who talked about least, russian agents said it, i listened to it all, you know, my hair didn't stand on end. why, but, but there was, there was, i don't, i don't understand how it is, you have an instrument, it must be, there must be an intergovernmental agreement, it must be prepared, everything must be done, then. we are already a few months away, and even before that, even before the acceptance , ms. ambassador markarova says now we will punch the landless, hooray, let's punch everything, and then the democrats took it and removed it right in the procession, i know it was openly removed by the democrats , they could remove it without joseph biden, they could not now we don't have the toolkit of lendless direct financing, where do you have any expectations that it will go better than last year, when will it happen? the elections will go better with a vote in the parliament, remember, they didn't give us our hands, and we moved to a package, although no

packages are needed, it was possible not to accept them, we just had to give money in the budget, that's all, they didn't do it, now everything will be so turbulent there that you even have to forget about it, but where is the package, who said the word package, lendlease, everyone is silent, the plan for victory, and what is the plan for victory if you don't have the tools in america? of money and specific actions, of course it would be better to talk in private about the plan that was given with this money, the current administration there should report on the plan for victory, and by the way, from the point of view of the united states, that’s it closed information, although this kind of information, as a rule, it is somewhere at least at some level, the congress works in contrast to the ukrainian parliament, the congress influences... foreign policy, so this did not slip anywhere, and we need to talk about it,

we need to talk about all things, and if it ends only with beautiful slogans, then this is not the style we need now. by the way, there was information that president zelensky fired mykola oleschuk from the position of commander of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine. yesterday there was information that during the attack of the russians on august 26 , an f-16 plane crashed with our pilot on board with oleksiy mesim, and yesterday the topic of possible friendly fire on the f-16 was discussed, which became apparently the cause of this plane crash, although there are no official confirmations of this investigation, the investigation will be conducted , including with the representatives of the united states of america, and olyschuk today responded to mariana bezuglii, because she posted on her facebook page. and accusations against the command of the air force of ukraine, well

, we have the resignation of olyschuk, obviously, obviously, i understand that the version published by mariyana bezugula, probably, it has a place, well, at least we will wait for the official conclusions, but the resignation the commander of the air force has already happened, here is this episode with the f-16 plane that entered the territory... there in early august, and well, something happened to him, we cannot say for sure now, there is no conclusion of the commission yet, whether it can somehow affect the attitude of our partners towards ukraine, that we gave them an airplane, they don't even know what to do with them, or the war, i would like to clarify, you say i came, that is, those that were delivered, well, sell them there, let's not talk, so i do not want to comment on this side at all. purely military - this war, and there, even during the war, there must be a debriefing, of course, so that there are no mistakes, but,

er, the way it is discussed, the war, there is an airplane, that is, what is the use there in the performance of the task, er , it's a pity, it's a pity that the pilot, well, died, this is the worst, the plane, listen, what difference does it make? for a piece that could that war is a consumable that could that su that f wants the 35th, wants the 16th, a pilot, that's a pilot who passed, a famous pilot, experienced, and who was trained, who actually, this is the biggest loss for him such a pilot needs to be in line, and people in the world are standing and offering, take one more plane, one more, but you won't get the pilot back, but... as for the plane, well, anything could happen, that is, i remember the wars that it was done, and

the information that is already open, well, it was done there in afghanistan, there was an operation in iraq somewhere, then there were friendly fire fighters, whatever, one, well, this obviously happens, all the more so well, once again, all this happens in war, the only question, of course, is that i, as a non- specialist, just have a question... such a general one, well, it can be again, honestly, maybe it's not serious in today's terms , who knows the situation, what these or other means are used for, but i think that..." if we keep f-16 planes somewhere in western ukraine, and not use them for missile launches , which can only be hung on these planes and on the territory of russia, by the way, the netherlands has declared that it can be done, and if the netherlands has declared, then they have already spoken with the americans, that is, they should be

used as much as possible where the return from them is maximum , conditionally speaking, or yes, they also work effectively on missiles, i understand, but on cruise missiles, but on cruise missiles, in principle, we can work with other means, except for aviation, i understand that not everything is enough, but if we lose planes in the process, then in in such a process, yes, that is, there will be no difference, why, what reasons, whether there is friendly fire, or there are technical reasons, whether there can be such a thing. insufficient training of the pilot, but then we still have one plane, well, everyone will talk about it somewhere, and if it will be already two, well, as you know, they say, one is a coincidence, two - i already remember it, three is already a system, if there are three lytaev-16s there, then no one will raise questions, then

maybe we don't need to supply ukraine, let's still finish this business is there a deal in polish? migs, well, in exchange for the f-35, by the way, last week after the statements of many poles that we will be able to give the migs to the ukrainians only if the f-35s arrive, there was already a presentation of the first f-35 aircraft at the factory, this is a good sign. well, they should be used for their intended purpose, even, even, if they are lost, god forbid, without the death of our soldiers, then they will shoot back where they need to go. it takes a number of times, that is, my position is not an expert one, it is simply a civil one, that one should not be afraid to take bold steps in war, and if we order bold steps, what is it called, then such a command will never set an example for the lower ones, everyone will try to avoid, by the way, in

the american system, i know it more deeply, among westerners, it is written: a report, even if a person made, well, even such a mistake, which borders on a crime, of course, when people die, yes, that is, he writes a report anyway, honestly, if it’s all honest, there are, there are disciplinary proceedings, of course, but no criminal ones are opened against him, because, well, listen , that is, if there is no motive, motivation to do it specifically, then you cannot be punished for it. i have a simple question, if the same commander alyashchuk, if it is for this, yes, what are some situations, they lost an f16 plane, this is resonating now for the world and affects our situation there, then why are they not punished for the same the mistakes of politicians, how many have already screwed up in key political positions, well, it's just

a disaster, so why aren't they removed, if this is the logic, yes, we have some strange, strange logic, that's why it seems to me... we need to be more careful with the armed forces, because you this way you will kill any desire of the commanders to take risks, to take responsibility, and to put someone there, with russian passports, a wife, a daughter in the cska club, and he, without any understanding of uavs , goes to head the newly created direction, the chief of staff, well, in general, well, there are two events, yes that's why i don't, i don't know, you understand, we are with you. we don't know this, if you want to explain your actions to the people, well, then let's honestly speak more frankly, but is it possible to speak so openly in war, it will hit the enemy, so is it possible to change the commanders there, it is necessary, even necessary, even during the during the war, it is quickly seen that you can, it even happens that way, a person is good, well

, he just does not respond in these conditions, and he may not respond in others, this is exactly the task ... but not because of the fact that lost f-16 is there a leopard, no, and in general, i don’t see any difference, when the weapon is already in the armed forces, whether it is american, british, polish, whatever, it becomes ukrainian immediately, it becomes ukrainian, so, well, that's what i said, but of course this discussion will already start on the pages of newspapers, the ukrainians are not ready to use f16, of course there will be these consequences, they must be... minimized, but i say that our task is to win, and here are all the things, here are the consequences , this is the work of diplomacy, to write an article, there are negotiations somewhere. knock this one down nakal, this is the work of diplomacy, it is not the work of the country's top leadership, well, there should not be consideration of the issue of 1f-16, which under

some conditions, there you just need to thank the pilot, provide everything that the state owes and thank the family, let's return to peace plans, because this week the national security adviser to the president of the united states of america. discussed during the meeting a number of topics related to the full-scale war of the russian federation against ukraine, jake sullivan said that the united states of america and china could not agree a specific plan for negotiations on ending the war in ukraine. let's hear what sullivan said. we had the opportunity to exchange views on. in ukraine for the past three days, we have not come to any concrete plan for diplomacy, in large part because the united states is very rigid in adhering to a simple principle: nothing about

ukraine without ukraine. so, in the end, it is up to ukraine to decide how it wants to continue the diplomatic and negotiation processes. but in parallel with what sullivan said, china said that we have it in general the chinese-brazilian peace plan, and... we, this is already our initiative, and we present it, while the ambassador of ukraine to brazil, andriy melnyk, in an interview with ukrainian truth, stated that the brazilian authorities did not warn ukraine about , who are going to present this peace plan together with china, let's listen to mr. melnyk, we have seen this initiative, this new regular chinese-brazilian peace plan, i predict it. although , by the way, the brazilians did not share this with us, and this is also such a challenge for us, the lack of it until now even elementary trust of her at the level of those

who actually make decisions there, that is, you go to the diplomatic adviser there, you communicate perfectly there, you ask so-and-so and so-and-so and what are the plans there, such as what the position will be and so-and-so, and then you only guess, what really... they are preparing an alternative approach, are all the initiatives and the weight of these initiatives necessary, mr. valery, the chinese chinese peace was there, it has been there since february 24, 23, they had a vision about what is happening in ukraine, then brazil joined some there is a plan where one of the parties waging an aggressive war against ukraine is the main russia. their peace plan for ukraine is a capitulation plan, about this putin directly said that give us four oblasts, withdraw the armed forces

of ukraine from there, these are basically our proposals, and lavrov says, two or three months have passed since then, how putin published this peace plan, and we did not receive any reaction from kyiv, but what kind of reaction are they counting on, that is, their, in their understanding, the peace plan is a plan for our capitulation, in... the position of brazil and china - is to become the foundation of this capitulation, that's right, i understand, well, you and i understand the ukrainians that this is capitulation, for example, outsiders believe this phrase that the ukrainians decide, you know what is behind it, behind it is a very simple question: we we don't want to be part of the war, although the ultimatum was not given to kyiv, but to washington and brussels. of official russia on december 15, 2021, it was an ultimatum, to withdraw the troops, there, this will be an ultimatum, because of the failure to fulfill this

ultimatum, they attacked ukraine, that is, well, this of course, we are lucky, what is called in this historical life, because there is no logic here at all, the usa issued an ultimatum, attacked ukraine, and of course in the usa they understand that this is a war from putin's side, it is not... a war against ukraine , if, as he wants to position, although in fact, well, in fact, this is how it happens, here the second task is a purely domestic political russian one, but basically he says that we are there with the usa, we are with nato, and these avoid this, so as not to play along with him, on the one hand, that he is not at war with the usa with nato, and on the other hand, it is very a convenient position, because let the ukrainians decide how many regions they want to give up, how many they want to fight there, this is especially so when jake salevan's phrase was now: "war in ukraine", he said so in china, so be it nice to, well, i only heard english that there was a war in ukraine,

what a war in... the hell country, it's a russian war on the european continent, until we can force them to tell the truth, they don't want to tell the truth, they don't want to call it, no, i'm not saying usa, there it is periodically called, and biden calls it, and putin calls it by different words, but in the diplomatic whole this discourse is outside of us, if it is not with us, they are among themselves, you see, as they say, the war in ukraine, means to find a way that the ukrainians will be. .. there is a lot of fighting to exhaustion, one ambassador told me, who is present here, who held very high positions, well, a friend of ukraine, he says: you know, we are calm, because you will fight all the same, they will go further, you will be a partisan a struggle, i say, what do you think, a partisan struggle, well, first of all, this you can get up as they go to your homes right away, this is the first period, and there is also, you know, this

passion of the spouse. that's all, and if it drags on for years, then tanks and airplanes will solve the issue, even if no partisan came out, it's clear that ukraine will simply survive in ukraine, no matter what, but people will simply leave here, which partisan, what are they for , i say, what are you doing, you will simply have plus 15 million ukrainians who will move, there will be no people left here, yes, they will hunt down these occupiers, but mostly it will be in vaska, so they have a picture our own until we bring our picture together with their...strategies and agree on what escalation is, where it leads to, that is, there will be no point, and we, unfortunately, well, not because we are to blame for this, no, because they don't want, you see, they don't even want to recognize the crossing of the border by aircraft or drones by russian-recognized objects, well, in general, it comes to a frenzy, that is, an unidentified lethal object or something, as they said in the polish parliament,

this is some... meteorological phenomenon, well, poland, we must really thank them, they provided a lot of everything, but we must understand, once again, that this is not a gift from poland to ukraine, ukraine is closing poland, because of the fact that our people are dying, poles are not dying, because of the fact that ukrainians are dying, not lithuanians are dying, i can't say the same about americans, literally yesterday they handed out orders to families in washington, ambassador markara handed over to fallen americans, well... and those who help the armed forces are only volunteers, yes, well, say, no troops, or any engineering, or any auxiliary, or instructors, or some ship in the sea, well , they all left here a month before, that is, i, you know, well, you can say this, i understand them, and we say, they have their own interests, nothing like that, here, no, we you

just have to show them on the table. dear, this is a common interest, you do not elaborate on it, and such pressure was correct on the one hand, so was zelenskyi, remember, and he continues, give, give, it is correct, but it must be packed, not like that to speak publicly, as not to argue publicly specific, why you did not provide this weapon now, and you will receive 10 times more, then the costs will be more, maybe not here in europe, but maybe there in taiwan, that is... the argument should be this kind of pragmatic, practical and pragmatic, and now it has become even more difficult to do this, because it has become more difficult, you see, narratives, external, internal, they need matification, greater unity, and as far as i know, our institutions of power were conceived only as inside ukraine, something is wrong, it is necessary here is unity again,

let's... unite, ministry of unity, well such, well, i don't want to comment, if you want something, destroy it, fill it up, create a ministry, it's very simple, and here you can explain that this is a ministry right away, because the ministry that will deal with our return of 7.5 million ukrainians who now they are abroad, well, it looks very strange, considering that we will return, not only return, but work with them so that... in what way? no, on the one hand it is good that there is attention to this category of ukrainians, it is good, but on the other hand, excuse me, but where is yours, mr. president zelenskyi, where is your advisor from the diaspora, who works, how does he work, andrew, i have already forgotten how he works in washington, and the former lobbyist of the derepaska, by the way, well...