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our contacts with neighboring countries, and i say about this reality all the time that if someone thinks that ukraine will be able to join the european union without regulating complex issues with neighboring countries, he is mistaken, i think i have been saying this for many years in a row, and i give the example all the time of the republic of north macedonia, which initially could not join nato because it could not settle... the issue of its constitutional name with greece, and greece clearly said that as long as macedonia is called macedonia, it is not part of any nato and the european union will not enter in the end, macedonia found a moment, maybe we too will find this moment someday, when in greece there was a government in power that was so unconventional for greece, i would say very left, even i would say a radical left government, prime minister tsipras, and this government was not so excited about the historical legacy. as
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the traditional greek right and left parties, which have always made a career out of history, and this government was able to agree with macedonia that it will be renamed north macedonia, macedonia will remain, but will be northern, and macedonia was able to join nato. but here the problems with the european union began, because when the story with the european union began, neighboring bulgaria said that no, there will be no negotiations until you recognize. the bulgarian idea of ​​what northern macedonia is, until you admit that bulgarians have always lived in this area too, and in general, bulgarians are confusing macedonians with bulgarians, the macedonian language is bulgarian, and it's such a complicated story. bulgaria began to block north macedonia's negotiations on accession to the european union. and they were blocked exactly until the moment when the macedonians, who were not fed up with all this, voted in the elections for patriotic parties, who do not like that macedonia is in the north... macedonia
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is called north macedonia. and now greece can also block these negotiations. and the question arises, how many years does this continue? 10. 10 years since macedonia is a candidate for membership of the european union. what about her negotiations? nothing, how much longer can this go on? that's another 25. i sincerely wish the macedonians that it ended quickly for them, but i still do not see objective grounds. and what fate awaits ukraine? maybe so. and it's very dangerous, it's true. and it is not... safe not only for our neighbors, but also for us, because i always remind, if we sit like this in front of the doors of the european union, we will conduct negotiations, our neighbors, whether they are poles, whether they are hungarians, or the slovaks, or the romanians, will demand from us something that we cannot do in order not to disturb our public opinion, then in the end the post-war russian influence will increase here, and the majority of society will say, listen, we have been waiting for the european union for 15 years. well
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, we had a war with russia 15 years ago, but they don't want us in europe, and russia wants us, so we can join the eurasian union, why were our parents there such idiots that they boasted about this european union, it's better to be with russia, it does not propose any conditions to us, well, that is, if russia does not propose, of course, but the danger is enormous, and this must be explained to polish politicians, and hungarian politicians, and slovak politicians, and romanian politicians, all this will be about... and we can already see this from the claims that hungary puts forward there, now they are after all historical claims for the recognition of transcarpathia as a historically hungarian historical territory, the fact that it will be more difficult with poland than with hungary , when it comes to practical issues, i guarantee you that, and here too, nothing special can be done, as you understand, but we need to really think about it, well, if not today, then tomorrow, like du... and we need to look for mediators ,
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ugh, ugh, intermediaries there, say, in france, in germany, to create joint commissions, to look for a compromise, to create a joint commission of historians, with the participation of, say, polish, ukrainian, french historians, well, for example, to have some kind of referee, so that i countries, other neutral countries of the european union, offer their version. the solution of these problems, many such things, many things depends on the extent to which we are able to explain to poland that there are problems of a national nature and there are problems of a local nature, because for poland all relations with ukraine rest on what happened on the territory of four oblasts, lviv, ivano-frankivsk, ternopil and volyn and volyn oblasts, in fact for... people living
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in kharkiv oblast or poltava oblast, poland is the same other country as france or belgium, ugh, they have nothing to do with poland, i mean from the point of view of... the conflicts from the point of view of the past, and these poles cannot understand that what is for them a central political issue is actually a regional issue, that people in kyiv and the people of lviv look at these polish-ukrainian mutuals in a completely different way, that this is for galicia and for volhynia, poland is a great subject of past history, ugh, because the territories were part of the polish crown in pre-war poland, so what? what about the territories that parted ways with poland during the time of bohdan khmelnytskyi, or were never part of poland at all, like kharkiv or dnipro or odesa, were never in poland, they do not understand at all what polish politicians are talking about, you understand , they absolutely have
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different historical and political heritage, and these people make up the majority of the population of ukraine, that's what the focus is there, and that's why for them , stepan bandera is a figure of the national... movement who fought against the russians, and not at all a person who organized assassinations of polish officials, do you understand, andriy? well, mr. vitaly, i completely agree with you, and moreover, let's be frank, even for the residents of khmelnytskyi region or bukovyna, they do not fully understand this context, but i often visit khmelnytskyi region, and now i was the same, i am also from people discussed this issue, and as you say, there is a perception. in fact, for the majority of people in poland, it is similar to how we talk about kyiv or kharkiv, that is, people, of course, and plus we must not forget that this context in poland is also played by such openly
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pro-russian, maybe former now marginal political forces, for example , the same confederation that you and i also talked about live. it is already gaining 12 to 14% in poland, and they are also beating it all, and it is clear that they will, will raise this issue, and the russian forces in poland, which are also masquerading as polish forces, they will similarly raise this issue, so here, as they say, we need all of us, moderate people, people who understand this context on both sides , somehow how... to think, somehow come to an agreement, somehow develop a common vision for a common future, and another topic that i would like to discuss today is, of course , the press conference of the president of ukraine
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volodymyr zelenskyi, it took place this week, the president said, answered the questions of journalists and about... the situation at the front and about the kursk region, it is clear that there were certain pressing questions, the topic touched on mr. tatarov, the topic was also touched on, of course, the united states of america about the entourage of the president, that is, there was a certain set of questions that, of course is being discussed by society today, some positively, some negatively, in general, mr. vitaly, here... you evaluate this press conference, how do you like the quality of presentation, the quality of the answers, were you satisfied as a citizen of ukraine with the answers given by the president, well and it is clear whether you and i, as citizens
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, are satisfied with the questions that were asked to the president, whether all the questions that concern us today were asked, i do not know, andriy, i proceed from the simple truth of journalism that a press conference... it is not news, i didn't watch this press conference, i just watched some theses that the president made, what was important to me, i noticed there, but i spent exactly 10 minutes reading these things, i believe that what what can be said at a press conference is already news there is no, ugh, ugh, that's all, i can't tell you about the quality there, about all that, i'm not one, you know, i don't remember how many years i've been to any press conference, i haven't been to any press conference ukrainian president, has not been since 1900. 94, and because i believe that if people say something to a large group of journalists, then it has nothing to do with politics, really, well, that's just my point of view, so i can't answer you, but why the quality of the question is that it can be made public in this way, it is more
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a part of a theatrical production than a part of political life. and why , even now, i understand that it is not discussed as much as ... it was probably before a full-scale invasion, of course, we are not before a full-scale invasion, i also did not understand why everyone would discuss it, but but more moreover, i still agree with you that now this... is probably not so important for society, i did not see as many discussions as before the full-scale 2, i noticed that the central topics of these press conferences were that , which the president answered about tatarova seems to be the deputy head of his office, right? yes, yes, yes, yes, it seems, yes, well, this is also very strange, because the president has repeatedly shown since 2022 that he is ready to defend his employees in front of a journalist. uh, uh, uh, because he believes that this is part of his political image, his
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political power, at the same time, let's not forget that when the president decides to get rid of one of his closest associates, he also does not ask journalists about it and public opinion not paying much attention, right? that is, he, well remember that andrii bohdan was the head of his office, i think i'm already forgetting these people, bohdan, yes, yes, yes, yes, oh, and this bohdan. it seems that they were also criticized no less than oleg tatarov, and the president defended him with the same fervor as oleg tatarov is defended now, and then one fine day he kicked him out of office and no longer mentioned his existence, right? well, logically. well, the same was the case with any other people, even with socially resonant people, such as valery zaluzhno. if the president makes a decision to dismiss someone, he is absolutely not interested in what journalists or non-journalists think about it. if he is going to keep someone in office, he is absolutely not interested in what questions
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are asked about it, he simply does not notice or is annoyed, because this is, i would say, this is the style of ruling, and he has developed, it is for ukrainians voted for this style of government in the presidential and parliamentary elections, it is a model of one-man rule that is not based so much on the constitution, as much as possible, because when in our conditions the parliamentary-presidential... you have a full majority in the parliament, you can ignore the parliament and can turn the government into a department in the president's office, by the way, this is not the first time in ukrainian history, as you remember, it was already like that and after 2010 it was like that in principle, but you can ignore public opinion, because you have such a huge mandate of 73% of support, and i remind you again that this is not the choice of volodymyr zelenskyi, it is not him did he choose himself that way or there seized power through the state... before the coup, it was the choice of the ukrainian people, the ukrainians gave birth to this, as i said, paternalistic one-man
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management model, i am not surprised by this either, because the most popular politician among ukrainians for many years, if not ten years, was oleksandr lukashenko , and it was absolutely clear that if the conditions are created for such a model of power to emerge in ukraine, then it will emerge, i am not surprised by this, but mr. vitaly, if we are generally talking about the context of press conferences, are they necessary they... now in the form in which they are, they are the connection of the president with society through the medium of the media, and if not and if they are necessary, if we are talking about the fact that they are really necessary, then journalists, in my opinion, they have the right to ask similar questions, and they probably want to hear some answers to these questions, of course, but don't forget that when journalists. ask questions in countries where there is a quick electoral response, say, where journalists come to a briefing in white
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at home, the people who meet with them know that if something is wrong with them, they will be able to answer questions, they will meet not with journalists, but with a voter, and when you and i are in a situation where such an electoral answer is not quick, then of course in this situation the very form and substance of the answer is not of great importance, that's all i wanted to tell you, that is, after all, if ... even there journalists or society did not like some answer, then according to the authorities it is not a problem for them, and it is not will affect, will not affect which, will not affect at all the perception of the government system, as far as i understand, well will affect, will not affect, what does it matter if there are no elections, well, it did affect, and what, we are in the same boat from power, if the government sinks , we will also drown in the conditions of war. if we sink with a flood of power and power, we are on such a titanic, we need to weave it out so that
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it is not a titanic, but a ship capable of overcoming a catastrophe, as soon as we sail out, it will be possible to talk about some electoral issues there, but i i don't think it's a quick story, as you understand, yes here in fact we see really that the attention of society, considering that. the fact that there is a war going on in our country, taking into account the fact that in our country there are daily shellings, daily terrorist actions by russia, we observe that the attention to such measures is minimal and not what it is during, at least in electoral cycles, that is, when presidential elections are expected or parliamentary elections are expected, then of course people pay more attention to what the president says,
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that the war is generally a more specific period, andrei, do you understand? a more specific period, during the war you captured some territory, you captured it, it’s a fact, ukrainian troops entered suja, it’s a fact, russian troops ended up some kilometers from pokrovsk, it’s a fact, a russian missile hit the wreckage somewhere near the territory of kyiv gest, it’s a fact fact, you see, you can't buy a ticket for the railway, there isn't one? you can hold 45 press conferences, tell how great the railway works, and then you want to buy a ticket, but there is none, and what does it cost you press conference, it's still concrete facts, it's different in a time of crisis, from a time when people can calm themselves down with illusions, you see, we have everything, a short break, mr. vitaly, and we
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lawyers of the aktum bar association will answer these and other questions that concern ukrainians. watch every tuesday at 7:55 in the legal expert program. on the espresso tv channel. kharkiv is in mourning. the day before, the russians killed six people here, and injured more than 100. the russians are advancing in the pokrovsky direction, and we are advancing in the kursk region. why did the first f-16 crash in ukrainian skies? will the popular social network telegram be banned in ukraine? in september, children go to school, what to do if there is no shelter in the educational institution, the winged ones do not need soil, ukraine celebrates the day of aviation. saturday political club, direct ether, we are back, we have another interesting topic, a topic, i would say, of such
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a planetary, including scale, close east, the ongoing war, israel conducted the largest anti-terrorist raid in the west bank, also israel eliminated one of the commanders. of islamic jihad in the west bank in the context of this anti-terrorist operation. we see that , in fact, despite all the efforts made by the international community, the war continues in the middle east, and considering that we do not have much time, mr. vitaly, if we are talking about this, this anti-terrorist operation, this anti-terrorist raid, as far as... such he is successful as far as you think now, still the situation in the middle east, the situation in israel is explosive and
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as close as possible to some kind of cease fire, some kind of agreement that yes, or rather that the united states would like to push right now america before the elections, i do not yet see any real prerequisites for any peace. er, i would say a peaceful compromise between israel and hawass, even if it is a cease-fire, precisely because this is an election in the united states, and hamas is absolutely not interested in making such a gift to the americans, but what hamas is definitely interested in is opening several fronts with israel so that israel is distracted from the gas sector. it's perfectly clear as well. and the west bank, in israel it is called judea samaria. according to an ancient biblical tradition, this is the same territory in which khabas also has a rather serious influence. we have to remember that there were massive
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votes for hamas in the west bank as well, just that the fat party, led by the current leader, won the majority of votes there mahmoud abbas of the palestinian authority, but hamas was also very popular there, and over the years this popularity only increased, after october 7, 2023 , it increased many times because ... a large part of the population of the west bank, like a large part of the population of the gas sector was just delighted with this raid by hamas into israeli territory of taking hostages and killing people, they were just mad with pleasure and it raised the profile of hamas, islamic jihad and other radical groups in that territory, i not to mention the fact that this territory is also difficult, as we understand, there are constant conflicts between israeli settlers and residents of palestinian cities and towns located in this territory, all this is absolutely obvious, but israel, i would say, conducted a raid on preemption, because hamas would obviously like to prepare some kind of situation that would lead to a real,
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serious conflict already on the western bank of the river, you see that hamas is constantly trying to act either through hezbollah, or to act in this way through the western bank, iran in this interested very much, and israel. you have to literally fight back and carry out such preemptive actions to stop your enemies, you mentioned this operation on the west bank of the jordan river, and recently there was another intelligence-generating operation in lebanon, do you remember when israel attacked hezbollah positions, attacked their missile depots and was thus able to anticipate a massive missile attack on israel. this attack happened, and hezbollah had to respond with destruction. his commanders foad shukr right in beirut, as it is known that he was eliminated by the israeli special services, with a precise strike, but still, this
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attack is not comparable to what could have happened if israel had not bombed the arsenals of hezbollah, before this attack, this is such a masterful work of the special services of the jewish state, and all around yes, in the west bank of the jordan river, this is clearly a pre-emptive operation. which preempted the possibility of any raids from this territory, the possibility of raids or to jewish settlements in this territory, because now any situation can become really explosively lead to the opening of new fronts in the middle east, and in principle, i see no possibility now that it will somehow stop for one simple reason, a lot of forces are interested, so do you remember a month ago, everyone? expected an attack from iran on israel, yes, all mass media there counted 24 hours, 48 ​​hours,
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there monday, tuesday, wednesday. this did not happen on friday, but in your opinion , at least 30 calendar days have already passed, why did it still happen, and whether iran maybe this position was taken in anticipation in order to strike back, you know, even then i didn't really understand why everyone was waiting, why everyone was expecting a strike back, in order to strike back the necessary missile arsenal, ugh, iran was clearly spending all its missile arsenal during the previous attack on israel, ugh, and to think that it has the same number of missiles in its warehouses, which it can deliver an adequate strike, it is also somehow very strange, ugh, ugh, well, this is how we expect some strikes from russia, and here you are spoke at the beginning of our conversation, the kurt region is the answer, but it's not like that, everything works, russia actually depreciated its missiles from warehouses in the first months of the russian-ukrainian war, do you remember when there were massive bombings every day
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throughout the territory. remember, these were missiles from warehouses, and now russia can bomb us only with what it accumulates, or what it receives, let's say from iran or north korea, well, it's clear that you don't get a special number of drones in such a situation there, then north korean missiles sweep the rear, speaking realistically, well, in such a situation , russia has to be fired with what it produces, and in order to paralyze the air defense system, a large number of missiles is needed, because if you are going to shoot every month with what you have produced, then you all the missiles will simply be shot down and not a single missile will hit the target and it will all be completely useless, so russia collects missiles and after that conducts such massive attacks for a couple of days, after which these attacks end until the moment when it produces again, will not collect again and will not attack again, and in principle, if you and i were specialists in the russian military-industrial complex, and we would understand how many missiles russia
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produces locally. how much it should use to paralyze at least partially the air defense system of ukraine, you and i could draw up a schedule of russian strikes on ukrainian territory for the next five years, frequency, number, combined attack, what should be, there should be more drones, should there may still be opportunities to divert the attention of air defense, but the same is true of iran. well, in order to strike israel, he needs to collect a sufficient number of missiles and drones for a combined strike, and, i want to draw your attention, andriy, a larger number than it was, because the number that was already used to strike israel led to the defeat of iran, none of the missiles hit the target, none, so now there should be twice as many of these missiles, tentatively they say one and a half, i don't know, again, i'm not a specialist in missile strikes, but
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if i were a specialist , i told you for sure should there be a quantity and in how much time can they be produced? i assure you that as soon as israel iran will have enough arsenals, it will strike israel. and i will tell you one more thing, even if ismail haniyeh tehrani had not been killed, this strike would still have happened as soon as iran had enough missiles. just like the russian strike happened without any kurt region after russia had enough missiles. this is the formula of war, which everyone who is in countries conducting military operations during the 20s of this century. mr. vitaly, thank you, thank you to our tv viewers, listeners, viewers on youtube for watching, for being with us, and, i hope, we have spoken, discussed all topics on'.
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the most important things for the current week, mr. vitaly, thank you once again for, thank you, and let's hang on, everything will be ukraine, and we will meet with you already next saturday, at the saturday political club, goodbye. good evening, this is news, summaries of the week on the espresso tv channel, and for you in the studio iryna koval works. today in the issue we will tell you about the following. kharkiv is in mourning. the russians killed here the day before.

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