these are paid music platforms where you sign up, you pay money either for a subscription or for buying this music, or relatively speaking, for downloading this or that music track, and we see that the average value in these charts is we have spotify, we have apple music, youtube music and shazam, that is, it is actually on... the most important are legal, i emphasize once again, legal platforms, the average value is 26% of russian music, i.e. russians, ukrainian music 39, and the music of other countries, that is, the united states of america, european union, other countries of the world - this is 34%. and we apologize, but 26%. of russian

music in the 11th year of the war and in the third year of a full-scale war, well, for me, it somehow , frankly, does not enter my head, i do not enter my head, what i say once again, these are the auditions that give money to the state budget of the russian federation. listen, well, if you have such a weakness, then do it at least somehow, well... i'm against piracy, we understand, intellectual property, it's important, but it's for the civilized world, the russian federation is does not apply, well, that is, don't pay at least for this, don't deliberately pay for something that sucks in your head, i think that's probably where it should start, though, well, we started with statistics, but in general, we see that people in ukraine are ready to pay into the state budget of russia, in fact, the taxes of these... people who

are officially rotated, who are officially placed on these platforms and on other platforms, in fact there are many more of them, just statistics were made specifically for these: they pay money to the state budget budget of russia. what happens next? rockets fly further, fly shaheds, then the russian military is armed, occupying ukrainian territories. and you know, and you know, when i look at these statistics, i start... to remember at least the events of the last week, and what are the events of the last week, it's dozens of people killed, almost 60 people in poltava, it's about a dozen people killed in lviv, these are the daily shelling of kharkiv and sumy, these are the daily victims in donetsk region, kherson region, mykolaiv region, these are the daily bloody shelling of our country, and it is precisely these bloody shelling of our country that funds go to. if we listen

russian music on legal platforms, that we buy russian music, and in general, i apologize if we sponsor russian peace in any way, in whatever form, but less than that, i have another question, why we, how the ukrainian state, why ukrainian lawmakers, why ukrainian state authorities still allow. this actually happens on the territory of ukraine, i emphasize once again, i simply emphasize once again that these are legal platforms, most of which are officially registered, google, for example, officially is registered in ukraine, does it not pay taxes, for example, the same apple company in ukraine, that is, all these platforms, they are on the app store, they are on the google play market, we download them, respectively. they

are officially located in ukraine, ca n’t we as a state deal with the regulation, at least in general, of these platforms, if we are talking, by the way, about the regulation of telegram, if we are talking about the regulation of tiktok, unfortunately we are not talking yet, as i understand it, no, we, we say, but for some reason this specific question is not even on the same level discussions next to the general are necessary. regulation of social networks in ukraine, but not only social networks, but also legal music platforms that offer russian music to ukrainians every day. in my opinion, it would have been necessary in ukraine a long time ago, including in the context of regulation of social networks, to develop a draft law or changes in the relevant legislation, which were impossible at least legally, at least in public access. to actually provide access to russian

music in ukraine, but as they say, unfortunately, this is the inaction of the state. and that's closure eyes on the obvious problems, on the obvious problems of the advancement of the russian world, it is given in signs. and, unfortunately, more and more ukrainian youth, ukrainian citizens, even in the public space, despite the fact that russian music is prohibited in ukraine according to the law on culture, they continue to promote this russian content. in particular. today there was information that in the city of sarny, in the rivne region, law enforcement officers drew up an administrative report against a 23-year-old local resident, a young man, a young girl who danced to russian rap on the alley of memory

of fallen defenders of ukraine. let's see. khrystyna asks for a short remark, because, of course, sarny, rivne region is the small homeland of our elena chechenina, our cultural observer, one of the most professional in this country in general, and i do not believe that it is possible there, but it is of course, well, for the sake of it i don't know, some... a little bit of humor, but we understand that it's no laughing matter, no laughing matter at all, when it comes to such excesses, i suppose it's some kind of youthful courage or one more thing, a lack of understanding of moral and ethical red lines, and i don't even know how

to explain it, although somewhere i even try internally, but how to fight it and what to do with it, it must be a balanced... approach, it must be really state strategy, state policy, and in addition, it must be state regulation, here here, here if, here, here the combination, the combination of all must be absolute, absolute combination, absolute mix of various kinds of means that are carried out in order to overcome in general, this is the russian measure in ukraine, not only bans, but we are talking about a ban. no, no, i’m sorry, there should be a full-fledged information policy of the state, when, when we said, well , i’m sorry, we didn’t even have a minister of culture for 13 months or so, so this is about information policy, but the worst thing is that both relevant ministries and

relevant departments do not even talk about such an approach, a comprehensive approach, for example, let's talk about the fact that there should be an information campaign in ukraine. why listening to russian music is bad why this is the financing of the actual russian terrorist machine, why this is the financing of the war, why in general in the context of promoting anything russian, it is bad for a country that is bleeding every day after russian strikes and russian occupations. i don't see anyone except some volunteer projects, some initiatives at the level of... some journalists, some experts, some activists raising this issue. i do not see that this was a national policy that was carried out, i apologize, from kharkiv to uzhgorod, from chernigov to odesa, politics that should be carried out in social networks, on

television, on the radio, on some external media, to attract bloggers here, to attract so-called influencers, yes, you can do it without collecting. they, i apologize, only for some political gatherings, as it was, you remember two years ago, and to gather them specifically on targeted issues that are important for our country, and of course, there must be responsibility, responsibility for economic entities, for establishments that promote russian music, and by the way, such we also have a lot, we have scandals almost every month, when officially. business entities, these are some restaurants, shopping centers, i don't know there, hotels, where they are actually caught playing russian music, the question is, what is the responsibility for this, that's how we officially have it in ukraine russian music is prohibited, but

the fine can be 170 hryvnias, so why hasn't full administrative responsibility been introduced yet, by the way, the bill is about how the verkhovna rada and the state actually work in... in the context of this protection of information security. the bill, which names, which has a number. 9547 is registered, now i opened it on 01/08/23, i.e. a bill that was registered how many, more than 13 months ago, on august 1 of last year, this is a bill on amendments to article 155 of the code of ukraine on administrative violations regarding liability in trade and public catering establishments in the field of services, etc., regarding the volume public use of the musical product of the aggressor state. this bill

has been in the verkhovna rada for over a year. he to thing was registered by people's deputies from almost all factions. and this draft law has been sitting in the verkhovna rada for so long and has not been brought to the meeting hall. you just can't stand it, because, well, why? because first of all, everyone doesn't care. and secondly, because it is possible that someone is afraid of some, well, including them. and the future electoral consequences there, i apologize, but today we have a question: will ukraine exist or not, will it be ukrainian or not, will russia win the information war, will russia lose the information war, and here it is not so much, in who has what electoral positions, or who has which, and what conventionally speaking views, here the question is whether we are ukraine, or whether russia will continue to carry out its work effectively. war both in ukraine and abroad, that is, this

is the level it should be, there may be others, there may be another comprehensive approach to all this, but in my opinion, both the ban of russian music on legal platforms and the actual adoption of this bill , about which i just spoke, 9547, regarding regarding administrative fines, again, by the business entity and explanation, work with youth, all this, unfortunately, is not done, i believe that if we did it, the situation would be much , much better, well, i would like to note, for sure, that the issue here is not only the development of our own as opposed to the usual russian, here the issue real survival and self-preservation, since the russian federation and high-ranking officials. of this country, who have the authority to voice the will of the führer, and they

openly say why everything that they started on a large scale almost three years ago in our country, and in fact already more than 10 years ago, continues, it is certainly worth mentioning here minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, who unfortunately turned out to be alive so far, because there was different information, so sergey lavrov, what he noted, andriy. well, by the way, by the way, this is not just an explanation, it is a response to scholz, in our previous hour in the new week we talked about the fact that scholz proposed, conditionally speaking, some formula for peace, yes, accordingly in the context of which, allegedly , according to the italian newspaper la repubblica, there may be some territorial concessions for the aggressor state, that is, our ukrainian one. territory and here lavrov answered, and it is clear that lavrov

will never say what he thinks, he will say this general line of putin, the general line of the rashists, the kremlin, and he will voice it, everything really converges there, and he voiced that it is not serious to say on the resolution of the ukrainian conflict, as a matter of the exchange of territories, it is about people's rights, and in particular he for... stated that the protection of the russian-speaking population is meant by people's rights. i quote: no conflict settlement initiative regarding ukraine concerns the russian-speaking population. it key problem. that is, the occupier state, the terrorist state, does not set itself the main goal in this war, and we have repeatedly talked about this. territorial issue: the occupying state, first of all, poses for itself

the question of solving the general existence of ukraine. their key task, which they have been carrying out since 2014, mainly since february 24 , 2022, is the liquidation of the ukrainian question, the liquidation of the ukrainian state itself, the liquidation of... what language, the liquidation of the population living on the territory of ukraine, the liquidation of ukrainian history, the elimination of all ukrainian values, that is, in essence , the creation of such a club. russia 2, maybe even they did not think that ukraine would become a part of russia there, they would like to see ukraine as belarus-2, that is, it is a question of existential war. and lavrov, and putin, and other russian terrorists, they clearly outline that, for example, the russian language is a key issue for them, a key issue,

and the promotion of the russian language in ukraine, it was, it is. it will be at the forefront of the russian struggle, so when someone says that listen, well, if there was no russian in ukraine or there was no russian music or russian culture there and so on and the like, then, accordingly, then russia would still think that it is russia and would go to war, here as , as we can see, russia highlights this as one of the key points why they consider... ukraine as russia, whether it is correct or incorrect, whether it is right or wrong, but this is what they believe, and we will not change their point of view, we can change ourselves in order not to give russia not to give the terrorists, not to give the occupiers any chance to consider us russia two or

belarus two, here lavrov is killing me with this statement. two birds with one stone in fact, and this is a danger that not everyone can see right now. the statement that the russian federation sets one of its main goals, the protection of the russian-speaking population in ukraine, is an explanation to the russians themselves, and to the entire civilized world, what and why we are doing in ukraine now. and with this statement , lavrov is actually throwing things away. glorify the fire inside ukrainian society and make in the eyes of, let's say, people who are ukrainian-speaking in everyday life, russian-speaking people, who are responsible for what is happening in ukraine. i would like us to step back a little and distance ourselves from this

thesis and return to the axiom. russia actually attacked us. of our existence, not because of what we are, but because we are in principle, this is very important to understand, but this does not mean that inside our country should not mature, you know, such a, let's call it a social consensus about that ukrainians, people who live inside our country, have use ukraine. in which language in order to knock out from the russian federation its glashataev in general the argument of russian speaking on the territory of our country. this does not mean that someone will rush into your bed, your kitchen, your life. there is specific ukrainian legislation,

and there is an understanding of cause and effect relationships. i would like us to develop within our society. this is critical thinking and understanding cause-and-effect relationships. we would very much like the state to build these, you know, neural ones at the level of its own policy connections in the mind of the ukrainian people. if you listen to russian music on official streaming platforms, then you are paying your money to the military-industrial complex of the russian federation, because their entire economy is now focused on support. whose phase of the war with ukraine, because they have already gone to war, because they have put their existence on the table of this war, and they cannot back down, they cannot give back. to be honest, when the large-scale invasion began, and putin got his teeth in the teeth for the first time, as he should near

kiev, well, further there and in sumy oblast, part zhytomyr region was occupied, many. well, he does it so often, but this did not happen, and in general, in principle, the goals of the special operation were fulfilled, well, he would have veiled further, how exactly he built this whole, what was meant by what he said and so on, he he didn’t, and that’s why after 25 and 3 years of a large-scale invasion and all our losses and from the other side, and they have... colossal, he definitely won’t just fold up and pretend to be a fool, it was possible logically, maybe even somewhere to expect it in the first days and weeks of large-scale. invasion, but when he got it in the teeth he didn't do it, of course he continues it now, and well, i have a question, what are you doing, why are you doing it, why are you doing it at

your own expense? well, i don’t really understand this nostalgia, maybe because i didn’t live there in the soviet union, let’s say, but actually, i lived in crimea in a mixed environment, and well, this is a story about when your grades are lowered there in the second grade because you don't know how to write in russian, and you think so, but i am obliged to, you are moving to crimea, and if you think that you are not obliged, in principle , to know some foreign language in the second grade, but it turns out that you don't know it a priori, this is first of all, only then everything else. the history, the history here does not even consist in the fact that we do not even make any reference there to the soviet past. we see that people who were not even born in the 90s, but who have not seen

the soviet past, that they actually cling to this russian thing, but why is this happens, here too one must understand. and we return to our issue of conducting hybrid russian special operations. russia invests billions, simply billions. billions of bloody rubles, these cultural-informational-linguistic special operations, russia invests billions in its bloggers, who actually start working with people barely from kindergarten, and this is a fact. russia invests billions of bloody rubles in social networks and the promotion of russian narratives there. we are just now witnessing how russia, unfortunately, has recovered after the 22nd year and now in fact, these ipsoshkas, these russian special operations, this propaganda

is almost the main trojan horse not only in ukraine, but also abroad. i remind you once again that the young people who are sitting there in tiktok, who are sitting there in other social networks, yes, they are, unfortunately, as of today for the most part. they use a russian product, which, perhaps, at first glance is not, well, there is some kind of propaganda, yes, it is not some kind of pro-russian, just a product, just for young people, but behind all this, here is this series the boy's words, yes, that's right, that's a direct product of russian agitprop, which supposedly has nothing to do with modern times, and many people said, listen, why, well, it's a message about pro-soviet women. the union there about about those times, well, what’s the point of this, but this whole series, read the analysts, it is all filled with russian

propaganda narratives, which are primarily designed to convert young people to russian, and they are also doing the same thing now and with regard to russian music, about all this russian pop, russian rap, simple the question is how we respond to this, yes... there is a huge distribution of ukrainian music, ukrainian content, ukrainian films, so this is not enough, so the state may not have the opportunity or desire to finance something, but the state must use its levers regarding blocking such content, whether we like it or not, some say it's not democratic, but i'm sorry, we live in times of war, and i'm sorry, we see that even the democratic, very... democratic and liberal european union is doing today anything to actually block this content. the situation with the telegram, the situation with durov, is a vivid example of the fact that democratic

france, liberal france, france, where, where there are completely different views, today it asks questions about propaganda, about these psychological information special operations that take place in some social networks, unfortunately, ukraine does not set such standards today. issues, and ukraine today does not raise the issue of mass and complete blocking of russian content. i, for example, believe that russian content there should also be no content on youtube on the territory of ukraine that originates from the occupying state, and we should also talk about it with social networks, discuss, talk, if it is not possible to talk, pass legislation, discuss it at the national security and defense council, this is what we have to do, if today the youth are massively ours... this is russian content and russian influence, we need to do something with this, i'm sorry, because even if we win the war on the front, we can lose

the rear, we can.. . again not to notice how in in the rear, because of russian narratives, because of russian throw-ins, because of russian propaganda and because of ukrainian inaction, the inaction of the state, there is a disintegration of society, as they try to tear us into different camps, into different pieces, as they try to separate us and demonstrate that in there are some people in ukraine who are ready to love russian, we cannot achieve this... and this is really a question today for the people's deputies of ukraine, and for the relevant ministry, and for the national security and defense council, move. please move, because we can lose the rear, we, unfortunately, are already starting to lose it in many aspects because of these russian narratives, which are pouring every second from all possible and impossible social networks, well, as for telegram, i wanted to would like to remind you that the committee of the verkhovna

rada on humanitarian information... policy is preparing a new version of the draft law on the regulation of platforms for access to information, it is in particular about telegram, it will probably contain a provision on possible blocking telegram in case of non-fulfillment of the requirements for the platform, well, let's remind you that in march a draft law on this, on the same topic, was registered, it was not paid enough attention until pavlo durov announced his detention in france, but with... now many people appeal to this topic with the argument: in russia they do the same thing: if you have more than 10 thousand subscribers, in particular there in telegram, then please show who you are, show your data, register and so on, holding these parallels in fact, well , it seems dangerous to me, because well, any associations with the russian federation have a purely psychological bad effect on our

population, on the other hand. on the other hand, we understand how much the russians actually, no matter what we say about them now, make sure that nothing extra is leaked, and the main thing for us is to maintain, to maintain a healthy position of protecting our national interests and our information field, this is directly written in our constitution, this is the business of the entire ukrainian people, let me remind you, and... not to go to extremes, hysteria and censorship of a total nature in order to that it would be difficult, in principle, to find some true information on the network, this is not the case now, this is what russia is doing, we have a different way, a balanced one, but it is a way of protecting one’s own and one’s minds, the minds of its population first of all, well, russia, it simply follows the path of blocking, and the path, the path of planting those people, and ukraine

must follow the path... the path of the civilized world, by the way, in the civilized world , there is also a direct demand for many social networks that they cannot be a means of mass information, and if it's a million pages there subscribers or 100,000 subscribers, that it cannot be such that no one knows who it is, no, well, well, i'm sorry, but this is nonsense, here's the question, we don't need to appeal to russia here, here we need to appeal to the healthy and adequate sense, it cannot be that someone is not responsible for it. for what he does, for spreading fakes, for spreading lies, for example, about the armed forces of ukraine, for throwing some information against some person, in the end, all this can lead to questions, failure to ensure the national security, to issues of possible, possible leaks towards russia, for example, further and the like, that is, in my opinion, the disclosure, uh, in the end of who runs the telegram channel there or

who runs some... tiktok or who runs some another social network, this is a normal european practice, an abnormal european practice is really blocking some other opinion, this is another question, but in my opinion, in ukraine, it is really the russian that should be blocked, not something else, but the russian, everything about formation state policy in the planned direction, let's just remind you that the supreme... council appointed mykola mykola tochytskyi as the new minister of culture, in general, the ministry of culture and information policy, which you are used to, is now called differently, and i like this name better, it is now the ministry of culture and strategic communication, that is, we are not only talking about the information policy of our country, we are also talking about...