of the united states of america, this is part of the election campaign, and you and i see that , unfortunately, our war with the russian federation, in fact, it is a war of the russian federation against the civilized world, and ukraine is just an outpost in this war, it is now and object many internal electoral processes taking place in different countries, in fact, this is what we saw in the local elections, i emphasize. local elections in several regions of the same germany, in thuringia and saxony, and where local, or rather, there where right-wing radical and left-wing radical parties just used, well, their attitude to support ukraine as the main pre-election argument in general, and here we see similar things that are happening today and within the framework of discussions about a... platforms of this or

that presidential candidate in the united states america. obviously, we need to continue to work with both democrats and republicans, find like-minded people, find arguments, find ways to communicate our position so that we don't have many question marks after the elections in the united states of america are over. therefore, it is one thing that here are these election stories, they also produce such and such statements, which you and i have. we're trying to decipher, but while we're trying to decipher the statements, analyze there, let's say the debate between the presidential candidates in the united states of america, i think there are much more urgent things that we have to do today and try to just advance our agenda, and by our actions internally, and our actions with partners, which concerns everyone of other countries, but it is actually the brazilian plan there, and indeed the chinese plan that we heard. there, you remember,

there were south african proposals, well, and unchanged, in quotation marks for peace, orbán, who sees, sees himself as a negotiator, in fact , is only, well, trying to get a certain price for himself, also in the context of the same elections in the united states of america and in the context of trying to develop their influence among the radical right. forces in the european union, all these things, i think, are a reflection of the fact that in fact, today, the world is increasingly wants in some way to move to, as it seems to him, normality, for, and many, many people in the world want to move to this so-called normality at the expense of the interests of ukraine, not understanding and not realizing that if russia is not defeated in this war, then...

the risks of military conflicts, war, they will then concern not only the territory of ukraine and not only our state, not only our society, but also central and eastern europe, many other regions in the world, and russia together with as partners of the axis of evil, and it will further undermine the entire international balance. is extremely focused on its internal issues and on the elections, in the election process, right now, at the expense of the interests, some sort, the interests of ukraine, some version of what seems to some to be a solution to the problem, in fact, there will be no solution to the problem without russia. .was

defeated in this war. mrs. ivano, in the same context, we have already talked about it in our program, and i would like to talk with you about it as well, about the russian federation. in this context, in your opinion, are we really will we receive this permission in the near future, is there at least some kind of consensus that will allow us, conditionally speaking, to respond, will allow us to... also fight, because what we have now, well, it's such a rather shaky situation for our country, is this a question for you from the point of view of interstate relations, from the point of view of the politicians of other states? well, look, here again there are several components, one of which definitely concerns obtaining this permission, and here all, it seems to me, all politicians of ukraine. who works with

foreigners, maximally included in this process, and both government officials, parliamentarians, and our public organizations, have a lot to do with this as well as with the advocacy of this decision. are working, i am convinced that it will be adopted in one way or another, but always these decisions, like the decision on training our pilots to work with f-16 fighters, or , for example, providing us with tanks, or providing the same long-range missiles, when they first started giving us jatakamse and stormshadow, it all took a lot longer than. i would like for the effectiveness of military conduct actions from our side, from our defensive military actions, this is one thing. i think that we will manage to break this resistance to giving us this permission, but at the same time i would not expect

that, you know, the united states of america and great britain are making a decision, for example, and they are announcing and saying, moscow is dear. moscow, starting tomorrow from zero hours, we allow ukraine to hit your military targets for such and such a number of kilometers, hundreds of kilometers, so please, let's move all your chains, logistical or airfields and so on, i would like the partners to hold this strategic uncertainty, at least for the russian federation, and when they decide on this decision, they will still give him ... without announcing it, it is for the kremlin, and then it will give us much more efficiency, because when we had hymers, you remember, their first use, it was extremely effective, because it was an element of surprise, surprise for the troops

of the russian federation as well, and i would wanted to this is exactly how this decision happened, even when it will happen. let it de facto become a surprise for the russian federation. mrs. ivana, and using the opportunity at the end of our conversation, i would like to talk exclusively about parliamentary matters. apparently, ukrainians are waiting for some changes in the rules of taxation in our country, at least today there is news that the tax committee of the verkhovna rada approved the decision and prepared for... the author's first another version of the government bill on raising taxes, and there will be changes to of the 2024 budget, last week's news reports were a little terrifying for ukrainians about the possible suspension of all social spending and spending at the time, as

there are funds for the marathon, for example, which are quite significant, but it's more about coverage, i would i wanted you to now... notice how difficult it will be for ukraine, as of now and as of next year, to balance the debit with the credit, and what measures must be taken in order to manage to, i don't know, run over hot coals, probably yes, is the tax increase now for ukrainians, this is the optimal way out, at least in the format that is proposed, please, but you know, unfortunately, this is again the same... the solutions that are proposed, they are evidence of the lack of this strategic approach and analysis and painstaking painstaking work on those possibilities, and where we can get the funds, for example, we from the european solidarity faction very, very carefully analyzed

the changes to the 24th budget and, well, in literally small parts from various expenses , we proposed how it could be redistributed. cast for the defense forces, for example, an additional 18 billion hryvnias, but none of these proposals were taken into account at the same budget committee, obviously we will try to defend these proposals of ours in the hall in order to have other ways, such as in order to cover the deficits that we have, we obviously see that the government will go out there to borrow for internal calculations. to receive external additional financing, but when you hear that the government made a mistake in its calculations by 500 billion hryvnias, because they decided and are now blaming partners in the fact that, they say, the partners calculated, their forecast was that the war

would end by the end of the summer, and therefore they did not add money to the country's budget to pay for... protecting the country until the end of the year for four months, well, that's what it says about the complete professionalism of these government officials, how in fact it was necessary to drive this prime minister down the neck a long time ago with his ill-conceived decisions regarding tax increases, again, for some reason we do not see that, for example, the government would try to finally bring complete order in taxation and controls. what is happening in the gambling business that they allowed, and

they are now happy that the tax revenue from the gambling business increased by some millions for this year compared to last year, but these numbers are not comparable to those about 'ems, which today are spinning in this and that realm, and this once again suggests that now, instead of looking for... a real resource, the burden of further financing the war is transferred directly to the citizens of ukraine. more moreover, next year, in the proposed budget for the 25th year, all social standards, minimum wages, pensions and so on are completely frozen, and this means that with an increase in taxes, taxation, a large amount. from that white business, which today continues to support our economy, will be forced, and

once again partially go into the shadows, and this will not solve the issue of financing the armed forces, defense forces of ukraine, but on the contrary, it will create additional problems for the next budget of ukraine, that's why you know, all these slogans and obvious readiness to take under the visor for the approval of the bank. and those proposals made by the government and the impossibility to work it out seriously and thoroughly together with colleagues and to be in dialogue in order to come to some solutions that will be acceptable for the country, well, this is what we see today, we will work tomorrow in hall, this week, next week, when these issues will be discussed in order to try to at least partially correct the policy of colleagues, if we manage to... reach out thank you, ms. ivanna. thank you for including and for your work. we will closely

monitor the parliament, despite the fact that it is difficult in the regime of martial law, but less so. ivanna klympoch tsintsadze, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on ukraine's integration into the european union. well, continuing the topic, but first of all, reminding you that today we are asking you, is a pro-russian revenge similar to the georgian one possible in ukraine? if you think it is possible, please call 0800 211 381, if you don't think it is possible under no circumstances 0800 211 382. all your calls will be free of charge, it is really important for us to know what you think about this account, and we will continue about what, more precisely, what the life and well-being of our citizens depends on, because the army, everything that concerns is understood. taxes, excises, the budget, this is what concerns our lives.

therefore, we are adding konstantin zhivago, entrepreneur, philanthropist, to the live broadcast. mr. kostyantyn, good evening, we are pleased to welcome you to the espresso tv channel. good evening. here is the first thing i would like to talk to you about, this is probably the raising of these, or the introduction of new excise taxes on... fuel , in fact, retroactively, from september 1 , new excise taxes were introduced, we saw that these rates went up on gasoline, diesel fuel, and gas, we see , that prices are slowly starting to rise at gas stations, and here is a question for you, after the president signed this law, after the same increase was announced, by the way. these excise taxes from january 1, this is not a one-time increase for us, well, there are many, many stages,

in your opinion, how will this affect the state of the economy and whether it is generally correct to take such actions on the part of the ukrainian authorities, the ukrainian government. thank you, i want to tell you that my understanding, as an economist by profession, by education, any increase. excise taxes on fuel, on energy carriers in any case of a peaceful state, when there is no war, this definitely always has a very negative effect on the economy. has a very negative effect on the cost of manufactured products, and everything is paid for by our compatriots who buy products, be it bread, milk, butter, any other products that they buy for their consumption anywhere, and certainly the industry suffers from this, if it produces

products either for domestic consumption, for other businesses, or for export , because the cost increases. there is no excise duty refund, and that is, the higher the cost of production, the less competitive it is, but we must understand now that we live in ukraine, which is at war with the aggressor russian federation, for almost the third year, it will soon be in february next year, as it is happening, it is dramatic and generally catastrophic for both the economy and business, and in this situation we understand that we, as a state, must... have the resources to finance our armed forces of ukraine in order to fight, defend our independence and actually , to defend the future of our people and on our territory, which is recognized in the international borders that everyone except the russian federation recognized and recognizes, in the situation when we need resources to conduct military operations and protect ourselves from russian aggression,

we definitely need to increase taxes, various taxes, about which today... the verkhovna rada speaks and passes laws, and we understand that today it is better to pay more to both the economy and business, but to remain an independent people, an independent state, than to allegedly pay nothing , not to have resources for military struggle and, god forbid , to lose both territories and our own population, therefore, in this situation, it is necessary to take a balanced approach to increasing taxes, they must be increased in this situation. regarding excise taxes on fuel and energy carriers, we them we are increasing it by no more than in other european countries, in general, that is , today we are only catching up, we are bringing the level of excise taxes that ukraine is introducing today to the level that is being introduced in all the countries of the european union and which is being introduced in general in many european countries, which and are not

members of the european union, and this is in a situation where they are not at war, but when we are at war, of course, if we do not have other... resources, if we do not produce chips, like taiwan, or we do not produce iphones, like apple, then we should collect taxes where we are we can collect them, but of course, it must be done with a head, so as not to kill business, not to kill manufacturers, so that they still remain competitive, because they provide jobs and taxes for our state. mr. kostyantyn, i would like to ask you, actually, we understand that tax increases should balance the situation. with holes in the budget should provide the ukrainian army with everything it needs and should generally guarantee us that we can continue to fight against a powerful aggressor. at the same time, here's to me now comes to mind the words of ms. pena pritzker, until recently the special representative of the united states for

our recovery, in particular, who noted that before she naturally resigned from that position, she noted that... let's think, and where and how ukraine can still raise money before raising taxes for business and the population. like, we have a place, a place, we just need to, perhaps, take a closer look at some possibilities. so, in your opinion, as of now, how much is the approach balanced? is not balanced. i want to say that definitely, and ms. pritzker is right, and she is across the ocean, and probably. sees less than all the insiders who are in ukraine, who are ukrainians, who understand how these relations in the economy take place, what are the chains of any industry in our country, and it is definitely not balanced, i agree with you, and i agree with ms. pritker, i agree with the international monetary fund, which says please bring out, bring out of the shadows your

businesses, you have a much higher percentage of the shadow economy today that doesn't pay at all. of taxes, which in no way contributes anything, i.e. does not contribute, does not make any contributions to the state budget and the armed forces of ukraine, in order to fight for our inalienable independence and support all these expenses for the armed forces of ukraine, of course, this the task of the government, it is the task of special services in our country to identify where we do not pay taxes, where it does not fall into the real we need to legalize the statistics of the gross domestic product. as much as possible of the illegal business that exists, and no one today will be able to convince neither you, nor me, nor the tv viewers that there is no illegal business or shadow business in our country. it exists, many have been talking about it, even for decades, but the situation for ukraine is critical, if 10 years ago, 20 years ago we did not fight on a full scale, then today we

are fighting, we understand that the resources we need are in the country , if they exist, then them it is absolutely necessary to collect, and in this situation, believe me, it would be desirable if the government and special services that identify all this together with the tax office, it is very easy for them to identify the days, the day. all these money flows, where all this shadow economy is now in the gross domestic product of ukraine, you need to have a desire, and thanks to this desire, you need to collect these so -called low-hanging fruits, that is, they are very easy to collect, they need to be collected, and our western partners, prytkir, and the international monetary fund correctly say that before raising taxes for white business, for business that today statistically. which today is transparent, which today is properly managed and submits all audits, both international and ukrainian, then please restore order where today there is

a tyno economy, today there is a lot of it, liquor products, tobacco products, including the same excise taxes on fuel , for the fuel that we import, which is white, and the fuel that we produce there today is not clear, as it is not clear, where at some, excuse me, semi-petroleum refineries, which, well... are not oil refineries, and there are some simple parodies of the fact that there is fuel. in this situation, of course, the government should not only collect everything from white business, making it uncompetitive, but also make sure that all business segments, even those that are in the shadows today, make their contribution. mr. kostyantyn, another important topic is the state budget. september is a month. when traditionally the government of ukraine submits such a first version of the draft state budget, when we learn the vision that the government has, that the relevant ministries have,

well, of course, then we will find out what vision the people's deputies of ukraine have. if we talk about the current draft of the state budget for the next year 2025, we can see that the actual expenses are set at the level of 3.6 billion trillion. hryvnias, in particular defense expenditures, of course, which will increase to 2.2 hryvnias, and the budget deficit will actually amount to 20% of gdp there, i.e. 1.5 trillion hryvnias, we see that, in principle , there are questions about this project in deputies, we see that there are both positives and negatives, we we understand that most of all that. the vision that exists now, it will still be revised, because it needs to be voted on in the first reading, in the second reading, so the question for you, as for the former people's deputy of ukraine, is

how far is this project, how far are these things that we are now we see, in relation to the draft budget, they are effective, in relation to strengthening the economy, in relation to the movement of our country in various... spheres in the next year, andrei, this is an important document, the budget, as always, is always important, at the third end of the third the year of the war, it is too important, too important, and therefore, of course, i would like to, i looked at the draft budget, which is still raw today, it will be worked out both in the cabinet of ministers and in the committees of the verkhovna rada. of course, i said all the time and still say that there is a lack of competences, so the school of economics in truskavets is very good. for our deputies, but truskavets is not harvard university, and it is not impossible to get an education in two weeks in order to understand all the details and the interrelationship

of the economy and industries in our country, so i in fact, like the previous years, and the previous years of the entire assembly, of this entire convocation of this verkhovna rada, i am definitely dissatisfied, firstly, with the incompetence of the cabinet of ministers, and secondly, that this incompetence of the cabinet of ministers is never challenged, i.e.... does not ask issues, it is not done by the parliament in an appropriate, correct way, because for that there is such a democratic institution and such a democratic structure, when the parliament is elected, it appoints the government, the government returns to the parliament to adopt the budgets, and that is, it is the responsibility of the forces that won the elections so that they 100% reflect or show that they stand for the opinion of the very voters who brought them to power. in that budget situation, what i would like to tell you is, yes, he is raw, yes, definitely very incompetent, in the basic things he is competent, because today we had 1.7

drelna. 500 billion hryvnias of defense expenditures in 2023 are not enough, now we will look for them and pass these laws, and that is , the situation will develop when we will also receive 2.2 hryvnias of defense expenditures in 23rd year, on 24 is also a number, well, it doesn't have to be seven five and in the forehead in order to redistribute what was in the 23rd year to the 24th, but you have to look at the rest, because the devil all the time, you know, in little things. and that is, we need to look at the little things, because when we collect a lot of little things, then all this grows into a single, monolithic, large product called the state budget of ukraine for the 24th, 25th year, and in this situation i want to tell you, i really hope that it will be, when adopted in both the first and second readings, he will be more competent, after the second reading and voting, in general, he will be very competent, and in this situation, of course,

we also need... and the advice of the international monetary fund, and we simply need the advice of specialists who understand the economics of our country, ukrainians , because you know that, someone from the ocean or from europe will never be able to teach us, they can give us advice, they can help us, but we have to do our work ourselves. mr. konstantin, thank you for yours thoughts, for your analysis, konstantin zhivago, entrepreneur, patron. was on the live air, but we are moving on, we are moving on and we remind you that today we are asking our viewers whether a pro-russian revenge similar to the georgian one is possible in ukraine, because the local ivanishvili talked about something like that. and according to the interim results, 43% of those who called us believe that this is possible. in september, there are discounts on amiksyn ic - 10% in

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