david: and thanks for watching this special edition of "kudlow." we hope we gave you a fair and balanced look at what actually happened up north. larry will be back monday. until. then, have a happy thanksgiving. remember what they say in the bible, be not afraid.

liz macdonald is up next. elizabeth: david, you're terrific. we love you. happy thanksgiving to you and yours. okay, the update on that vehicle explosion at the new york-canada border, unclear if this was terror, but we talked to people at the northern border, they're as squared -- scared as the southern border due to biden's policies. plus, israel now moving to use a powerful new defense system that will help shut down hamas for good. and the u.s. crackdown on binance, it's the biggest crypto exchange in the world. it was aiding criminals and terrorists like hamas. a new emerson poll, trump widening his lead over biden, plus a key prosecutor subpoenaed for the biden impeachment inquiry, and communist china is now slamming around yen teen that's new free market, anti-big government, libertarian president, the media saying he's a mini trump. i'm macdonald, "the evening

edit" starts right now. let's get you updated on what a authorities are now calling an incident in buffalo, new york, right on the eve of thanksgiving. it's a busy travel day, record travel they're talking about. now, this bridge connects the u.s. to the ontario, canada. it ranks second only to kennedy airport as the business wiest port of entry between the u.s. and canada, but gerri willis has been a breaking the news i all day, she's live more. what's happening now? >> reporter: so this whole thing is kind of turning around the way it's being analyzed. it's now an incident that occurred at the new york-canadian border, as a you say is, right on the rainbow bridge there. high-level law enforcement sources are now telling fox news that two men in a stolen car were trying to cross into canada when they started driving erratically and went up on the median to avoid cbp, canadian border patrol, officers. that's when they crashed at a high rate of speed, and the car went up in flames. this killed the two men who were inside that car, and the

explosion so fierce, so big that authorities immediately thought it was a terror attack. we have an eyewitness account of this very dramatic. listen. >> at first, i thought it was an airplane. it looked like slow motion. and i said, my god, it's a car. it's a vehicle, and it's flying through the air. he hit the concrete barrier probably right at the signal, god knows how many thousands of feet before the bridge, and went airborne. the vehicle began to turn sideways and went under something overhead, and then it hit something over there. >> reporter: so this eye eyewitness went on to say there was no explosion, just black smoke and fire. at this point we have to say that the u.s. investigation is saying that preliminarily there is no bomb, that has been ruled out. the canadian border patrol saying the same thing, we are learning -- leaning towards a

reckless driver. nobody at this point is completely ruling out an attack, right? they can't do that yet, so they're continuing their investigation. you can see the explosion there on your screen. law enforcement continuing to determine what happened there. so we will continue to follow this story. in the meantime, liz, i want to mention to you that buffalo international is closed. that's the latest news from there. and, of course, all a law enforcement -- all law enforcement is on security high alert, watching and listening and making sure we're all safe. liz, back to you. elizabeth: always great coverage from you, we appreciate you. happy thanksgiving. joining us now, former acting dhs secretary chad wolf. chad, when you followed this story throughout the day, what do you make of what's going on? i mean, people in the north, we talked to them, they're really scared. yes, we understand this may not be a terror incident, right? but they're really frightened because they see what's happening in the north. there's been a dramatic rise for the roof of terror threats at

both the northern border and through the southern border. i mean, this is what's happening under this president, that people are so on edge. now the buffalo jewish community center ordered all of its facilities to shut down because law enforcement told them to do that. law enforcement's on edge. new york is on edge. the terror threat level is higher for this state. >> well, i think that's right. i think there's a couple of things to keep in mind. one is during this holiday period, it and starts before thanksgiving and goes until after new year's, it's a heightened threat environment that i know federal officials are always on the lookout for. that's one thing. two, this particular incident there in new york, i think, what i have found being a part of a lot of law enforcement investigations, a lot of the information at the beginning is sometimes wrong, so we need to let that investigation play out. but, liz, i think you're right, i think this highlights the insecurity of the northern border. the southern border gets a lot of attention, and it should, but we are also seeing a lot of illegal apprehensions and a lot

of illegality along that northern border particularly where this port of entry in new york is located, the swanson sector which is made up of new york, new hampshire and vermont. it's seeing some of these illegal apprehension numbers over the last 11 months more than the last 10 is years combined. and so that includes known and suspected terrorists, that includes special interest aliens and others. so i think, unfortunately, what this incident says and highlights is really the insecurity of that northern border. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, again, just to recap, it looks like two individuals in a car speeding rapidly toward the checkpoint between, on the rainbow bridge between the u.s. and canada. and then it rapidly, that car turned around at a high speed, hit a barrier, looked like it may have hit the overhead, and then crashed near the customs and border inspection boost. an official is hospitalized, it appears he's going to recover, not seriously inure injured. it was such a powerful

explosion, the engine block blew away for, you know, a multiple number of yards. but the fact that the fbi joint terror trask force is addressing this -- task force, transportation secretary buttigieg, the president, the attorney general all have been briefed. this is just two days after u.s. intelligence red flagged the heightened risk to new york state and particularly new york city. people here in new york city are worried about the thanksgiving day parade tomorrow. again, it just shows how people are really concerned. >> yeah, i think that's right. look, i said this multiple times, i think that the threat to the homeland, unfortunately, is probably the highest that we have seen since 9/11 for a variety of different factors to include that chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan, what's occurring on the southern and northern borders, what you see in israel and on and on. i think there's a lot of things that i think most americans need to be concerned about a particularly in this heightened holiday period, again, stretching from thanksgiving past new year's. so anytime you're at big events

like a thanksgiving parade, i think you need to be careful. but anytime you see a port of entry such as what we're seeing here in new york being targeted or you see an explosion particularly at a customs booth there, i think both fbi and local law enforcement, state law enforcement and others, that's going to raise a flag for them. and so they're really going to look at this as they should, but whether it's just a vehicle at a high rate of speed that has an unfortunate accident or something more nefarious, we're going to have to see that play out over the next several days. elizabeth: we're also seeing now crossing a lot of, a multiple number of synagogues have been ordered to increase their security as well. just in this heightened threat environment. chad wolf, you're terrific. thank you so much. let's bring back to the show retired u.s. brigadier general anthony tata, brigadier general was the deputy commanding general in afghanistan from 2006-2007. he's a former acting undersecretary of defense. we welcomed him to the show, he's also the author of "total

empire," and we've got back with us retired u.s. army lieutenant colonel james carafano. gentlemen, happy thanksgiving. thanks for your service to our nation. we know that you, lieutenant colonel, you served 25 years in the army in europe and south korea. wow. you both have quite the pedigree. general, what do you think of israel's hostage deal with hamas? 50 hostages in exchange for 150 palestinian prisoners accused of terror crimes and more. is this a fair swap? >> yeah, liz, you know, i think netanyahu's in between a rock and a hard place here. he's got to listen to the families. he's got to keep the pressure on hamas, and he's trying the thread the needle here with this exchange. i think that he may, this may have been a development for a while, and he wanted to finish the hamas city, or the gaza city off operation, and so now it maybe is time for a operational pause where he can restock

himself. we know that hamas is double dealing, we know that hamas is going to rearm a, refit, rest and try to figure out a new strategy. this barbaric doling out of the hostages and people thinking that hamas is somehow, you know, being benevolent are here -- [laughter] is just perverse. and it's, you know, but netanyahu's got to do this. he's got those families staring at him saying, please, bring my loved one home. and so i think this is probably as a good a bad deal as a you can get. elizabeth: so, colonel, what the general just said. i mean, we're waiting to hear the details on who will be leased. apparently, 3 americans may be released, there are apparently 10 now held. i mean, the palestinians released in the hostage deal, they're terrorists who were tried and convicted in court also accused of crimes, other crimes. the israeli -- you know, hamas

kidnapped innocent civilians ripped from their families. this is not an even swap. no matter how much hamas terrorists want to gaslight and call these occupation people detainees, they brutally kidnapped civilians. the deal arguably strengthens hamas and allows them to regroup. >> yeah, i don't agree with that. i think this is a place that the israelis knew they were going to wind up since day one of the war. remember, hamas deliberately took hostages. it wasn't like, hey, oh, there's some hostages, let's take them back. this was part of the plan. and it was always part of the plan because it was one of the offramps that, in the end, they would wind the war down by trading hostages for the end of hostilities. so i -- the israelis knew they were going to have to do this sooner or later. they've done this before, it was really predictable. but there's still a pool of hostages left, and from hamas' standpoint, remember, that's the last card to play. once they're dealt out the last

group of hostages, they don't have an offramp, so they have -- elizabeth: well, it's outrageous they did it to begin with. i mean, colonel, to your point, we hear what you're saying, i want both of your reaction to this: israel says it's going to continue to wipe out hamas. and this story coming in, israel, israel's defense systems took a giant leap forward. they're going to use laser beams to shoot down incoming rockets fired by east hezbollah with or hamas. -- either hezbollah or hamas. it's called iron beam laser defense system developed by lockheed martin and israel's system. ultimately not only ground-based laser defenses, but also mount pd on ships and planes as well. what do you think, general? this is a sea change. >> yeah. well, it's an evolution, that's for sure. the iron dome as good as the radars and counterbattery missiles that knock down the iranian missiles that are being fired at them, and then this now

laser base, sort of like star wars 30 years ago in a tactical situation, i think it's a good augmentation to the iron dome. i don't think they'll be getting rid of the iron dome. i think it'll be additive and augmenting that. and the more that a they can get a shield from these constant the rocket attacks, the better for israeli citizens and the better for all of the region there because they'll know that they can't penetrate. elizabeth: yeah. we've got breaking news. the governor of new york saying there is no indication that this was a terror attack at that incident, the carr crash happened that -- car crash that happened on the rainbow bridge. colonel, can you speak about the iron beam laser defense system israel's now moving to deploy? >> yeah. i mean, just -- the israelis are not really in that bad a place. they're got good request positions on the ground, they don't have a second front. they still have international support. and what they're going to do is

wrap up these operations, and then they're going to seal off gaza. so that's the end to people coming over to work and everything else. so what iron beam rings in -- brings in is another dimension to that. they want to take off as many ways at the table that help hamas ever go on offense again. they're going to have to adapt very strong the defensive measures, and this new, this is a new capability that really expands that. elizabeth: it's really interesting. general data, colonel carafano, again, thanks for your service to america. come back soon, we love having you on. happy thanksgiving, gentlemen. >> thanks. elizabeth: still ahead, congressman jeff van drew, congresswoman beth van duyne and joe concha. house republicans fired off more subpoenas in their impeachment inquiry on president biden. more details on the subpoena to u.s. assistant attorney leslie wolf. irs whistleblowers accuse wolf of politically interfering in the criminal probe into hunter

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on the rainbow bridge in knew ago a rah falls, the government of new york says it's not a terror incident, but this is happening on the eve of thanksgiving the amid record holiday travel. the faa as has had to deal with more near collisions and close calls between u.s. airplanes. look at this number this fiscal year, 23 close calls between u.s. airplanes at airports versus just 16 last fiscal year. grady trimble, he's going to try to cover a lot more at dulles international airport in virginia is. grady, what a night. >> reporter: it has been, liz. busy day already. it got even busier because of that incident in new york. i can tell you here at this particular airport it has been surprisingly calm to the point where flyers have come up the us asking why it's not busier. so i guess that's what it looks like when an airport is running smoothly. that's not to say it's been smooth everywhere in the country. take a look at the flightaware misery map. you can see around 2900 flights

delayed across the country today. that's on top of about 5500 delays across the united states yesterday. but, like we said, the people we've talked to have been in pretty good spirit. the tsa says 2.6 million people went through airport checkpoints across the country yesterday, that is exactly the number they were expecting. and today they're projecting another 2.7 million more passengers to go through security checkpoints. we know that the storm moving across the south and the mid-atlantic was a major concern heading into this busy holiday travel time, but those travelers today are dealing with a new concern, and that's, to your point in the intro, liz, security because of that explosion in new york. the tsa told us travelers can expect to notice an increased law enforcement and canine presence in the transportation system. tsa the, they say, is operating at a heightened level of security as a result of world

events and the current threat environment. the good news is, as you pointed out, the governor of new york speaking just moments ago saying there's no indication that the explosion in new york was terror related. nonetheless, travelers are advised to be on the lookout, be vigilant even more so than normal because of what happened there and just because of the way, unfortunately, the world is right now, liz. elizabeth: grady trimble, you're terrific. thank you so much. happy thanksgiving, my friend. let's welcome back to the show gop strategist ford o'connell can. okay, ford, we've got this news coming in, a new emerson poll. trump again widening his national lead over biden by 4 percentage points. it's now 47-43 for biden. and voters are slamming, have been slamming biden. the polls have been showing they're down on biden over the economy, the collapse on the border, crime. so why is the media acting surprised when voter polls have been saying this for months? we're going to show this

headline, "the washington post" reports, quote, democrats' border problem is getting real? what do they mean by getting real? >> what's happened is the democrats have ignored the border problem for so long and there's been a near mainstream media blackout on it and, frankly, voters are waking up to the fact that biden's border crisis, self-created border crisis, is putting american lives in danger. when we talk about that emerson poll, liz, it's not just the 'emmer isson -- emerson poll, it's the latest fox news poll, donald trump is in the best polling position he's ever been in his attempts to run for president. and if the election were held today, he'd have more than 300 electoral votes, and he'd be the 47th president of the united states. elizabeth: he's leading in six national polls, now there's seven, emerson. the president is now in nantucket at billionaire david rubenstein's $39 million compound. let's listen to this, madeleine, she's been on this show.

she's a mom. she lost her son to crime in new york. let's listen to this. watch. >> taxpayers, poor taxpayers are now going to have to foot the bill for these people, and we can't even afford to pay our own rent, all right? but i believe that, you know, in '24, this new election, the next cycle? if we're going to see a overwhelming amount of people that we have not seen. in 30 years, come out to vote, and people are walking away from the plantation of the democratic party once and for all. >> so true. >> but when you look at, okay, mayoral elections in new york and chicago and los angeles, the candidates who are running on beating the democrats on those issues did not win. >> no, i still want to quibble about whether these are real or imaginary issues can be. >> you think they are more -- >> they're filing, but i didn't realize conservatives were all about feelings, i thought we actually wanted some facts and

evidence -- >> so there isn't a border crisis? that's not a fact? >> there are feelings that are being stoked by a certain kind of media narrative that is soaked in an anti-urban, anti-city narrative. elizabeth: what is that person talking about? show the facts again. there's, this is about feelings and keys are just stoking -- conservatives are just stoking feelings? look at the facts. 8.4 million illegal border crossings under this white house. nearly 1300 terrorists on the watch list caught at the border. almost 51,000 criminal felons caught crossing. those are not just feelings, they're not imaginary, those are facts. so why do they continue to have on these pundits who live in a bubble and they don't listen to what voters have been telling them like madeleine brame has been saying? >> because democrats are beholden to the social justice wing of their party, and they believe that no -- no one's illegal entering this cup. and we all know the truth, liz, you're absolutely right, when it

comes to biden's border policies, he's endangering the lives of americans, he's endangering the lives of the migrants themselves, and he's actually asking for americans who at this point because of biden inflation cannot afford mortgage or rent? this is a slam dunk, and democrats better find a new way or they're going to get wall walloped in this next election. elizabeth: ford o'connell, thank you so much. now, "the new york times" is reporting the coming deployment of artificial intelligence-controlled robotic killer drones for a war and battle. this is moving closer to reality. now there's a big fight breaking out between the united states and powerful forces overseas over this. and we've got house judiciary subpoenaing a top the u.s. prosecutor -- top u.s. prosecutor for the impeachment inquiry into president biden. high she is accused of meddling in the justice department probe into hunter biden in order to protect the president. it's on "the evening edit" next.

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elizabeth: joining us now is one of our show favorites, congressman jeff van drew from house judiciary. congressman, happy thanksgiving. we love talking to you, because you say it straight. now, your committee subpoenaed leslie wolf. she's a top u.s. assistant attorney. she was on the hunter biden criminal investigation over the doj. irs whistleblowers accused her of politically interfering in the justice department investigation into hunter biden, so she's to going to testify decemberth for the house ime preach. -- december 7th. why subpoena wolf? >> subpoena her because with it's clear from the evidence that is mounting that she did interfere with the process directly and indirectly. to make sure that no way there'd be any connection to president joe biden. yet we know that he was in on the phone calls, that he was involved in a lot of what

they're investigating. among the many different things, and there's so many things it's hard to follow, that hunter biden didn't do is he didn't register as a foreign a agent which is what he was. so they're investigating and subpoenaing information on that as well, and she made it very clear through her own words and also her sub order to nates that she -- subordinates that she didn't want any connection at all to the president or anything that he did. that's not the way an investigation is supposed to go. you follow the evidence, you follow the facts, you get information, and then you reveal that information. and she was making sure in any way possible not to do that. that's why she's being subpoenaed. she deserves to be subpoenaed and hopefully, maybe -- i doubt it -- she'll tell the truth and not perjure herself before the committee. elizabeth: so when you look through the government documents, it's indicating that she blockaded at least three government agencies, the irs, fbi and doj officials from broke

hunter biden. she tipped off hunter biden's defense team about a search warrant for his storage unit. she objected to that. plus she allegedly stopped, you know, her doj investigators from asking witnesses about the big guy or, quote, dad, meaning president biden. and she's basically -- is it true that she ordered investigators to delete from search warrant withs any references to political figure number one, that's believed to be president biden? is that true? >> you can't -- to the best of my knowledge, it is true, and that's what we're going to find out as we invest this even more. but that's why i say the evidence is mounting. it is mounting. there's real information here. look, you know or what we're doing in this inquiry is following the facts, following the evidence, and the evidence is damning. i've got to tell you in all a candor, if this was a republican president, he'd be out already. but we're trying to do it the right way, cross ts, dot is. there is so much with hunter biden, and it's all connected

with his father. it's connected with president joe biden, then-vice president joe biden during some of this. and it's obvious that there's been interference and at multiple levels. we've seen this with the department of justice, we've seen it with the fbi director, we've seen it with the attorney general, we see it with our -- look at the special plea deal that was being done for hunter biden. it's unbelievable. the judge basically in court said that she could not accept it, that she'd e never seen anything like it before there's so much stuff, liz, you almost can't keep track of it all, but we are. elizabeth: so let me just be clear, so the biden family made anywhere from $24-25 million, possibly more from overseas deals selling influence. that's the allegation, that they were cashing in on the president's government job. access to the vice president, access to the obama white house. and then they buried the cash flows in off-balance sheet shell company, at least 20 of them, also llcs, and buried them as

loans sloshing around. is that what you're finding? >> and this is all a fact. whether breath elizabeth yes. >> i mean, who -- of all the people watching your show, how many people have shell companies? how many people -- nobody. the bottom line is they were trying to cover as -- [audio difficulty] real quickly, you know, when james biden got money, he immediately transferred it e over in the form of a check to joe biden. i mean, this is a real setup. the family's involved in all kinds of corruption, and the truth is going to come out, and there's going to be hell to pay, in my opinion. elizabeth: congressman van drew, happy thanksgiving. thanks for joining us, it's good to see you. >> same to you. elizabeth: this story coming up, critics are really slamming media hysterics about argentina's new libertarianth president. he wants to cut the size of government, he wants to stop hyper-inflation, but they're attacking him by trying to compare him to trump. again, he wants to cut government overspending. isn't there a message here for the u.s.? if also this story, cryptocurrency exchange binance,

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elizabeth: you know, there are so many powerful forces moving through the u.s. economy, it's hard for the government to keep up. the justice department though just dealt a massive blow to binance. it's the world's big biggest cryptocurrency exchange. binance is accused of facilitating terrorists like hamas. hillary vaughn has the story at the white house. hillary. >> reporter: binance is paying a $4 billion penalty, the largest corporate penalty in u.s. history, after the company is accused of turning a blind

eye to terrorists on their exchange. >> binance was allowing illicit actors to transact freely. that includes transactions associated with terror risk groups like hamas' brigades. binance processed these transactions, but it never filed a single suspicious activity report. >> reporter: it wasn't just terrorist groups like hamas that utilized binance for their criminal activities. about 75% of binance's illegal transactions were tied to iran, a way to get around sanctions. binance reacting to the decision saying they're taking responsibility and ready to move on saying, quote, when binance first launched, it did not have compliance controls adequate for the company it was quickly becoming, and it should have. binance made misguided decisions along the way. today binance takes responsibility for this past chapter. liz? elizabeth:hill i vaughn, great

reporting as always. let's welcome congressman tim burchett from house foreign affairs. it's great to see you again. your reaction to this, is the government on top of what's going on with cryptocurrency exchanges financing terror? is it on top of things like artificial intelligence, chatgpt and more? >> no, ma'am, they're not. it's the classic close the barn door after the cows have already left. if a company can awe pay $4 billion and walk away, you've got to wonder what else they're doing. and what we know, hamas and these other terrorist organizations have been using these type of of things because it's untraceable. and now -- and, of course, the mob has been using it, we saw that during covid. and new you're seeing it just compounded during all this terrorist activity. they're moving money around. it's very fluid, and of course, washington trying to regulate it, i serve on the a.i. committee that chairman mace is in charge of, or the subcommittee, i should say, and literally we're trying to regulate something that's

changing so fast. and a lot of the -- if you're 75 or 80 years old and you listen to 8-track tape players in your '72 gremlin, those are the folks that are trying to regulate this stuff, ma'am, and it's moving so fast, it's almost impossible. what i fear with a.i. is that we don't understand it, we try to regulate it, and then we ruin an industry and china once again gets ahead of us. elizabeth: we're going to pivot to this, "the new york times" is reporting about the deployment of artificial intelligence-controlled drones that can make autonomous decisions about whether to kill human targets on the battlefield. that's moving closer to reality. the u.s. is among nations arguing against the u.n. and new laws to regulate a.i.-controlled killer drones. what do you make of this story? >> i don't think we should be in theup, ma'am. we fund it -- in the u.n., ma'am. basically, it's a bunch of people who spit if on americans, burn our flag and kill our military men and women.

i'm not a fan of them. i think if we followed the u.n., it'll get a lot of our folks killed. and so our military, i think at least in this case i think they're making a wise decision. why should -- you send a bomb down on somebody, you really don't know who's down there. this might save some civilians' lives as well. so i think america's on the right track there, and we don't need to be taken orders from the u.n. and that's just -- the foreign lobbyists and the war machine pushing something new. in my opinion. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, the governments overseas are lobbying the u.n. for a bido restrict the u.s., for the u.s. and other nations, you know, australia, israel and russia. they're saying, no, we're not going to greet it with the u.n., these binding resolutions. congressman, thank you for joining us and happy thanksgiving. >> liz, i hope you have a very politically incan correct, happy thanksgiving -- elizabeth: probably will. [laughter] you can bet on it. we'll report on it, i'll relate9 you know. thank you so much. >> [inaudible]

elizabeth: hope you do too. okay, this story coming up, there's a big blowback against the new free market, libertarian, cut the size of government, he's the new leader of around a general teen that, he's saying all that. he's now take thing heat from china. but now he's going to say he's going to cut ties with china. and the media again and again and again, they're getting called out. he's been criticizing, this refreshing new voice, again, he wants the cut ties to government. it's a hyperinflationary environment in argentina, but the u.s. media is comparing them to, can you guess? trump. but first, let's check in with dagen and sean to hear what's coming up next hour. sean: hey, e-mac. we have the hamas-israel hostage deal, we're talking about that, as well as "the washington post" preparing their readers for war at the thanksgiving dinner table. we have jason rantz and david webb both on that. dagen: we have tomi lahren coming up, and she is -- pairing her with a surprise guest. and steve malloy on how abc are

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>> he will imprison, he will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from the country. >> you have to make a choice, do we want fascism or do we want to continue the 248 years of self-rule? elizabeth: whoo, that's throwing some serious shade down. you wonder how people who watch msnbc can even walk out on the street or sleep at night. let's bring in fox news contributor joe concha. okay, the hysteria is so profound, so deep. so now they're accusing trump of incitement, but the anchor of the national news network making wild claims that trump, if reelected, is going to murder people, execute people? and claiming trump is a fascist? do they really are any historical understanding of what

farcism is? we've got three coequal branches of government including the judiciary. fascist governments don't have that. what is wrong with them? >> i wonder if they believe actually what they're saying, liz, or they're telling the most extreme parts of their audience maybe what they want to hear. as you said, here you have joe or scarborough saying that donald trump will execute his opponents if elected. and he says just go back and look at his history. all right, let's go back and look at donald trump's history. from 2017-2021 at last check, none of his opponents were executed. and the fact that you start calling him fascist, after what we saw with hamas in israel and what they tried to do on october 7th and succeeded in term terms of killing 1400 people and recreating the holocaust, that's fascism, not because you disagree with a particular political opponent. you also had representative dan goldman on with jen psaki last weekend saying that donald trump, in order to save democracy, must be, quote, eliminated, unquote. eliminated? defeated is one thing,

eliminated sounds like something much different. so, look, whether it's scarborough or rob reiner who's an extremist, a troll on twitter, if the argument from msnbc and other networks is if you vote for trump social security -- it's the end e of democracy as we know it, that's just a distraction from the fact that so many americans are concerned about things that are real like flakes, wages, crime, the border, education and foreign policy. that's real. elizabeth: let's move to this story, the u.s. media a is attacking the new president of argentina. he's for a limited, smaller government. they're in a hyper-inflationary position over there. they've defaulted on their national sovereign debt about ten times, so what's so scary about him? he's calling for vast cuts to argentina's government, he wants to adopt the u.s. dollar, he's pushing back on an alternative currency out of russia and the brics. i mean, he's fighting 143% inflation rate, but axios calls him a far-right economist who's been compared to trump. "the new york times" calls him

a, quote, a narco-capitalist president, says he is like donald trump. and, you know, but the media didn't report negatively on, you know, the far-left winger in brazil. he's a former convict. he was really off the wall. >> right. precisely. as donald trump once famously asked before the 2016 election, what the hell else do you got to lose, and i'm sure many around around a general tin januaries are thinking the same thing because their economy, as you mentioned, triple-digit inflation, looming version, rising poverty. and this has been going on for a long time. so argentinean citizens at this point can't do any worse, and sometimes you've got to go outside the box to solve these problems that have been around for many, many years. so that's where we're at this point. he may be radical in the eyes of some, but what has argentina's leadership done to this point to help their people? you've not to make cuts, you've got to do some different things but, again, our american media

sees smaller government always as not the solution, but the problem. elizabeth: joe concha, you're terrific. happy thanksgiving, my friend. good to see you. >> gobble, gobble. thanks, liz. [laughter] elizabeth: okay. the biden white house breaking norms right and left just to get their way. president biden now invoking a wartime policy for, get this, green energy. again, breaking norms right and left outside of congress. coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ be ready for any market with a liquid etf. get in and out with dia.

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elizabeth: let's welcome to show, from house ways and means, good to see you congresswoman. this feels like a president going rogue. a run away presidency, it feels that congress can't control it now president biden invoked a law only used in times of war, defense production act to pour tax mayor money into domestic -- taxpayer money into domestic manufacturing. >> don't ask me to defend the biden administration, i have now idea, their agenda is different from most americans. why not stop over regulating and allow permitting to happen to get our refineries back to get access to energy. we see is biden agenda. is to destroy the economy. to des destroy american

businesses and depend more on china. i don't think that is what most americans. what we're reading in headlines, the last thing they are thinking about let's put this law into place where we're having to create unnecessary burdens on more americans is buy new equipment they don't need, instead of allowing them to be successful with what they have. elizabeth: people p feel this house white house is shelling out billions of taxpayer money to political donor class. the green energy crowd, now you have this story. green energy loan, texas attorney general has more than 4 dozen complaints, including accusations that is sisiscanned

patients, this company, has an insider track with guys running the program at energy department. he ran this cleantech foundation or whatever it was, where si se officials were inside. >> it is smart to follow the money. follow the money. when we think about who is most benefiting from these green energy programs that biden administration coming out, it is china. also his donors, people who work for the different. which is why we're trying to open the investigation to sea what is happening with the agents that are going road, time and again whether or not the irs or fbi or department of justice or epa. it is department of energy, we have got to make sure that we're putting in check all of these agencies that are benefiting but not

actually following laws that congress is passing. elizabeth: do you think 20 24 will be a better year. >> i would tell you i am hopeful it will be a better year, we have an election in 2024, i hope that e ern everyone gets out and goes to the polls do something about tomorrow bringing forward energy act and border security to make america safer and put more money back in the pockets of every day working family. elizabeth: happy thanksgiving. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald, we hope you enjoy the show and have happy thanksgiving time to send it to my buddies. dagen and sean what a day. dagen: thank you happy