larry: were public and senators, chance to turn catch and release at the border, to catch and deport of the quarter and a great chance, just go ahead and do it. and then liz mcdonald will say yes, i think i don't know. liz: i agree thank you so much larry natoli reversing of the story stories coming up million is coming in voters are saying that is time for a change of white house about his approval

rating again drops dramatically in a new seasonable the clock is running out for heel be rivals going up against front runner donald trump's prep spoke out in court today with that sound, biden white house, the faces a for foreign policy by mayor and venezuela no us to take over oil rich the mouse launches investigation breaking news coming into the studio, also know i probe harbor and mit, house and senate lawmakers say that their college president should resign when presidents are still not apologizing for what the lawmakers call a congressional testimony performance about anti-semitic campus practice and plus brendan pushing this news is coming in, to pay cash to ncaa college student athletes, and that will escalate even more in the fight of our biological males and women sports. elizabeth mcdonald in the

evening edit starts right now. let's get right out it, former special is consistency president trump mark lauder mark is good to see you tonight a number president biden's job approval again drop in a new seen bowl said is a 37 percent and gallup estimate at 37 percent market, he started out in the 50s by 38 businesses coming in biden is now the most unpopular president in 70 years in modern u.s. history and this since treatment and what you think. mark: it is not when you look at the results of the lack thereof, about this in historical purposes perspective joe biden 10 percent was popular than linda johnson in 1967 and he dropped out of the race in 196020 percent less popular than jimmy carter who got his clock cleaned by ronald reagan in 1980 and this is the lowest level of approval we have seen and is not getting any better and you

really have to ask yourself not just his personal approvable when you look at this disapproval on every single major issue, i do not see how joe biden can come back from this suite of the u.s. economy mark has been powering ahead but there is hidden quickness is provided to watch and 13 straight months, or the its manufacturing index contracted a minute and a benefactor is an contraction list of the data there is more evidence of the economy was losing momentum after robust growth last quarter what is going on march the, is the top spend in the narratives are coming out the messaging is coming out of the white house, with the president what he is saying is it has not not resonating with the voters at all. mark: grossly right every time joe biden talks about the economy the american people stronger because it just flies in the face of what they see everyday, higher prices at the grocery store, higher prices at the gas station at the paychecks

that are not keeping up all joe biden tries to distract everyone vote low unemployment number, dew point outcome of the fund middles just are not there and that is why the people do not believe this going back to the polling issue, that is why is nearly 30 percent underwater, six out of ten americans, disapprove of his handling of the economy. liz: this was coming intimately of news representative kelly armstrong is a republican, and markham introduce the 14 page resolution today, that would launch and authorize and make formalize the impeachment inquiry to president biden said to be marked up on tuesday summer 12, and that is formalizing the impeachment could happen next was a comedy think that the voters are now paying attention to how the biden family and business associates got more than 24 million bucks from foreign oversee still selling biden family funeral live in an inviting government influence. mark: : more more people as they see the facts, they do not

like they see that it is clear, that the biden family profited off of his service and the vice president's office and probably dating back to his time in the state senate. not set well with that's another thing going down in his approval rating and so i thank you so this impeachment a fire continues to move forward, we see more bank records and more evidence of money going from the chinese in from the russians from the ukrainians, directly into the biden family right then directly to the bank account of joe biden and people are just going to be fed up with it and say none of this is working for us we need to move on. liz: last year the viewer, the presidents messaging about the economy about the usually inflation in wages and on and on and on and also the border now the side of the border, these gop senator sue block ukraine is real tight wanted to bill, not do enough to secure the border and you know, specified americans at the border must be

secured now and bring it back to the level of what trump was doing because we have had than 530,000 illegal immigrants crossing just the last two months alone we will show you what built mother ocean is hearing from the adult males crossing the border and you will see what he is hearing from bev and thus take a listen to this and watch. >> where in the united states you want to go. >> detroit, california come in new york city. >> new york city. >> miami. [speaking in native tongue] >> , nebraska oklahoma. >> south carolina speech of these are vetted illegal immigrants and that is the issue in american see now, it is turning above 9 million under biden's watch have crossed illegally at least coming towards 2 million getaways and

1300 terrace car crossing market, sitting the presidents polls. mark: absolutely the market people see that is taking services away from them at the parks and athletic fields remain close and people are being housed in enforce molestations kids classrooms are being overrun with illegals causing millions of dollars and again, they're sick of it and they are not buying the lies from the biden white house sweetie looking far think you for joining us today let's move ahead to this, doctor wall street pro, carol roth gop strategist model and he did not go well on site at the republican debate is watch the playmakers and insults by watch this. >> this is a problem using identity politics, more effectively than kamala harris and is a form of intellectual fraud. >> i have not done yet. [inaudible]. >> this is the poorest debate come the fourth of may, would be

vetted the first 20 minutes, is the most obnoxious blowhard in america so shut up vivek ramaswamy. >> your version of foreign policy experience come that was closing bridget to new jersey to new york so everybody in favor just lock yourself up at that stage enjoy a nice meal get the heck out of this. >> you better kennington other getting sucker like me kelly and she caves any time the left comes after earning times the media comes after her. >> i would be happy to all of the attention fellows and thank you for that. liz: the first to what did you think carol. >> will i think that the wwe could not have scripted something as well as what we saw liz and yes the mass and obviously i think that as we saw even though he was not in the room and ends up being trumps night and there is nothing anybody get on that stage to make anybody change the reality of the situation, we have personality any candidate to do despite the 11 remaining and he

is strong and those candidates are going to be able to see you pretty think policy and he was waiting on policy many say that is either desantis or haley and desantis as a record in florida what you think. >> will i think they carol is right and it was a tussle tuscaloosa and it was certainly a fiery debate when it came to the facts last night, i have actually the florida governor ron desantis was the strongest because he was very fact-based and it was much more comfortable and stage and at times he showed himself to be a fighter but at i think year olds over a hundred right in the grand scheme of things this was oppressed because donald trump is so far of the polls sweetie what you think pacific demanding laid with the latest cbs news poll, and trump is 261 percent of likely gop primary voters nationwide and more than all the other candidates combined but again, it comes down to policy and policy policy policy did

your enough on policy last night. carol: no i did not on the things that i care about things that i think every american cares about, the economy i think one of the challenges lessons that we have people really good campaigning and we have people who would probably be good exit - but i don't think necessarily the same people we have to presidents, we cannot donald trump be out there i can run the town halls and speeches the meet and grace think about 70 like this that is, do the execution you have the benefit under best of both worlds week to look or said, pretty thank you so number two of this crowd trump pick any of the missus ap ford when you think. >> will i start with is a very distancing number two. [laughter] and all trump is honestly going to pick who ever he wants things will be able to best execute his message and i will say this, maybe the person he picks his vp is not up on the stage but at the same time, ♪ ♪ matter appears is that donald trump makes the case that

america cannot have another four years of joe biden sweetie let's call it carol has your vp choice. carol: amongst all of those is just a wildcard because i think that donald trump is one thing 70 is loyal to him so i think that everybody in the state she has no off the list and it will be summary like maybe stefanik beatty what you think fort. >> i think the loyalty will matter for donald trump and you know, but i think it's going to come down to driving a message and look out bad kamala harris is it during the biden message, he's going to need somebody is going to be mentally loyal but also be able to drive a message and afro person in his absence and so far i have not seen that person yet i will tell you what was interesting less sightless, that is kristi is that the god was running ads during news nation debate to this interesting carol and ford thank you for joining us tonight instead ahead, tell them attorney general see marshall with steve forbes and also former nfl sideline reporter,

which - to foia enter the biden white house handled this, if you in the white house news is coming in from the white house is greenlining saying yes, to military exercises in oil-rich guiana thank you so the fears that venezuela is about to launch an invasion when plus we have the new york post divided from speaking out in court today before the tent defense testimoy medical going to take the next on the evening edit. trump: people being murdered all over the streets pretty and violent crime attorney general - lunatic the attorney general, sister because she knows that she has no matter all of the evidence, and the judge will rule in favor.

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liz: president biden again sidestepping congress in a significant way news is coming in, it was like he is saying know what does not matter with the supreme court ruled on this issue edward lawrence is about to bring you the white house and was us why edward. >> with you president is now be smelling together his student loan forgiveness plan in these changing roles on existing

programs and that he spends a number of people were eligible to get there debt forgiven in this c1 the latest announcement affects 80003 or people absolving them up to $20000 in student loans and the cost, to the taxpayers as for $20 billion for this when he brings a total forgiveness, president joe biden to about 132 billion, touching 3.6 million americans another critics say, forgiving get to teach fiscal responsibility. >> i find this just something that many people are going to find offensive. because it is so unfair. the whole idea is why can't everybody get the same thing and what makes these always lisa special why do they get off okay i don't like it. edward: suisse building energizes him group of owners and new cnn poll has the job approval rating like you said, at 37 percent and that's an overall what would you the idea

so last month, president of biden sent an e-mail to the borrowers who already received forgiveness and prominently his name is on the front incentives ministrations is finding ways around the spring court ruling to guesstimate the 30th of us your biden pledged to get on the ruling when he tried to push the entire forgiveness plan through. .biden: as i sit of time, i'm in the course decision to strike down my student debt relief program was wrong. what i promise that i would not give up. edward: so i know the president has about 30 percent of what he pledged initially overall 443 billion-dollar figure, is about 30 percent of the through that is still counting was sweetie what a story thank you so much and we appreciate you know look at was back from this new york post columnist maranda divine and since i come up going to get your reaction to president trump any spoke out in court today, and is new york fraud trial is during the entities expected to take the stand on monday at a secular since march.

trump: is a fraud the whole thing is a fraud it was a done is they've weapon eyes the justice is coming from the white house because i'm meeting bided by a lot. >> in the attorney general committed fraud and you just saw it right there and she is a fraud, and is election interference and iowa and new hampshire. liz: we do you think about amanda. maranda: he's absolutely right of the cases abroad and it is a fraud trial and it is fraudulent it is election interference quite obviously along with all of the other cases that have been brought against donald an election year, just to follow him and look, the judge inner on in this case is an elected democrat, he has not as you see in turn think and judge normally weighs the merits of the case and dispassionate, this is an apparatchik of the democratic

party, patios already made his decision and donald trump is guilty this entire trial has just been about the extent of the punishment and you know he could destroy donald trumps well, families future and social is here and he supposedly no running for the democrat for the republican nomination. and instead, he is fighting for his financial life. and you know, it is completely unfair. liz: national jury in talking about a gambler. maranda: yes, and you new york is just riveted with crime and just yesterday, we had diner in manhattan, the gunman when and rubbed it and then gratuitously shot the poor guy sitting at the bar eating his fish, and had sweetie well let's talk about this, this crime it is a serious issue in the present former president has been talking about that, and there is new media and

give credit tech calling former president trump indicator suspect is down town hall with "fox news" host shaun hannity, former president was asked, would you never abuse power as retribution again i guess flyball except for day one and he said he was talk about drilling for oil and drill drill drill in closing the border on day one and president biden is ra sidestepping the coursing is a report from a nobody's calling president biden educator. maranda: wealth anybody deserves the label of dictator come he would be joe biden and his nose and every supreme court decision that goes against him. and exhibit one is what you've just been talking about with student loans printed 100 in some that million dollars not allowed to do that and that is illegal. it is a carefree and he going after his primary opponent, with

every single barrel he can find in the doj's weapon eyes the doj the fbi to go after vouches donald trump, but all of his supporters and all bidens ideological components and even catholics, even parents of school board meetings that is a dictatorship the authoritarianism is a under the surveillance and censorship state, and is emerging under the democratic party in the last three or four years, is frightening that it is not to the party coming out there doing this during the trump administration in the deep state we chose the loyalty to the democratic party and they put into this monster which have full be very difficult to get back into the genie bottle. liz: got it thank you for joining us maranda divine is breaking is coming in house education committee launching a brand-new investigation, into harvard, mit and university of

pennsylvania, education videos lawmakers giving a blistering attack after those college presidents gave catastrophically that testimony, not forcefully denouncing campus anti-semitism, and enabling calls for genocide against the jews and calls from congress resign, this news is coming in university of pennsylvania the board of trustees or, had an emergency meeting today also this, see porpoises here and we news coming in the divided white house has a potential for foreign policy crisis right on his doorstep and will venezuela to get oil rich region away from dion that why the fears of a venezuela invasion is growing on that coming up on the evening edit.

liz: this will come forbes medium-term and commander-in-chief seaports, we news coming in steve, it looks

like for foreign policy nightmare for the biden white house and venezuela come in this dictator nicholas was annexing to govern oil-rich region possibly invaded key auto entirely come this would be again for foreign policy nightmare this is after ukraine israel taiwan initialing afghanistan and the biden white house handle this one. >> a better because the world is now realizing of the things are falling apart and others are going to do about things as well and back in 1990, when the iraqis under hussein invaded kuwait in the could not span of margaret thatcher saw the president george hw bush from the wobbly george bush did not, the question was punishment invaders were pushed out and enforcing of this administration, we will call it biden huffing and five and i think that he won't take mental the military action from to prevent it from happening you should make it clear the troops crossed the border, the missiles are coming your way and perhaps

of your present coming up palaces while this cannot stand this violates the doctrine also underscores how stupid the domestic foreign or fuel policy is, on oil and natural gas and oil has dirty oil that we lift the sanctions on it. liz: venezuela has dirty oil. steve: and we look at the sanctions is not producing the clean oil we have here at home and so on to cast this a disaster for the rest of the world is watching and how will he respond sweet if key and here's the news coming in, they must southern command, it will basically five military operations inside joint exercise december 7th as well as - is putting in general the border this is escalating and the thing is since biden has no credibility, is not enough to do exercises because of the previous on my phone, he did this exercises the more will

come or if you do something to biden will have to reuse missiles and drones to make it clear that you can across the border but i don't think he is the backbone to do it and i would be surprised but i do not see it. liz: here's how serious it is about it he had built a new map showing the territory, that he could incorporate and taken from any order drills in this contested areas claim a referendum of summerlike 95 percent of venezuelan supports, you know. mar.steve: is always 95 or 90 percent when you have dictatorship. liz: will the biden white house of lofgren they say they're going to get tough on a big you think it will. steve: i have a pressure vessel make them do it because beijing is watching and colors watching putin his watching that if we show weakness there, they know they can push is elsewhere that is to miscalculations and world

liz: this like 2000 miles in florida so close that is new thing is we are today, we were talking last week about how biden had delisted you know basically took cooties of the terror watch list and first what one first thing they did in 2021 in february i have talk, will going to review that and run asked them living firing you know. steve: and barack obama they secretly pursued a pro- iranian policy and he wanted iran to be the dominant power in the middle east about his policies were reflecting that and then you know say it they remove the sections without saying so in china giving around 50 billionth money and other things, so they want iran to be the dominant power in the middle east and they don't say it in the results the results will be a disaster and he has to change as la, we have to wait 12 months to get the change in.

liz: okay theme parks, will stay on these breaking news stories and the stories coming in, why did the attorney general of 14 c sent a letter alerting the new york times and cnn and reuters and ap, about their coverage of israel's war on hamas terrorists also was going on behind the scenes, house education, just la brand-new investigation into harvard and imitate after their presidents disastrous testimony downplaying anti-semitism in calls for genocide on campus we have billionaire this bill eckman exhibited diversity equity inclusion push is behind all of this, next on the evening edit. meet the traveling trio.

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sweetie we have more news coming in, university pennsylvania's board of trustees held an emergency meeting today, there is deep and going concern because there's growing calls in congress the presidents of you plan to resign and harvard president as well in the present still not apologizing for not denouncing congressional testimony campus protests calling for jewish genocide and now, the colleges tax-exempt status for the entire sector while universities now and focus and la vaughn is live on capitol hill with the story hillary. >> good evening aziza health lawmakers were impressed by the ivy league presidents appearance on capitol hill and in fact they got them into trouble for the dodgy the cagey response to lawmakers questions about whether or not with dues i jewish people violated the rules and down to think of the universities are trying to do

damage control and the president is mcgill posted an apology video but it did not actually include the horse, i'm sorry or i apologize. >> i was focused on what i should've been in the irrefutable fact, that he called for genocide of jewish people, is a call for some of the most terrible violence of human beings can perpetrate card and it is evil, plain and simple. >> including gay at harbors president is not apologizing big clarifying let me be clear, calls for pfizer genocide into the jewish community or any religious and a group are vile they have no place at harvard, and it would looks like they are the ones going to be held to account and house education committee officially launching an investigation after the shocking hearing yesterday into mit harvard postman elise stephani think after this week's pathetic and morally bankrupt testimony by university presence when answering my questions, education and the workforce many

is launching an official and criminal of the full force of subpoena power in japan and mit and harvard and others we will use our full congressional authority to hold them accountable on the of the stage now sitting universities pocketbooks about the donor, passing the going to be withdrawing their $100 million donation to upn and then the ceo a stoneridge asset management said that unless there is a change of leadership in a change of values, he is going to be withdrawing this $100 million gift sweetie a lot of news coming and thank you so much joining us now, israel special envoy for combating anti-semitism. edw.liz: here's the thing, thera big fighting congress now by the fact that these colleges have tax-exempt status having thinking of lot of money overseas from foreign entities

they are not disclosing with the money exactly is coming from how do you think of this a new investigation by the house into harvard, and pad and you entities. >> two months today, intent seven exposed many many mass one of those mask that was removed is actually the state of affairs that universities are intended to teach people, how to think, not what to think and certainly not want to think that is funded by foreign entities that have no transparency in terms of how we got here and so when there is ad by the atrocities of war crimes in the crimes against humanity perpetrated against thousands on ten - seven is called election for those universities that effect i think that it is one of a mask that is been removed every moment of reckoning for those universities bases that have allowed anti-semitism to thrive interest sweetie while the use of rails united nations

and top military advisor gave us a personal sweetie of the ten - seven footage is worse than anybody the media could ever ever imagine that if you new ways to be deprived and we have thought that we knew about evil, we did not in the scope of this evil, is beyond human comprehension what we saw so i do not want to talk more about it because it's heartbreaking but let's watch of these college presidents in action today because you will see them pretty clear that are to denounce calls were jewish genocide campus but that only after called out and threatened to say that they should resign, when they say that there clarifying the same as what you know they are not apologizing is no apologies on this watch this. >> it and so, the answer is yes that calling for the genocide of jews, violates harvard code of conduct correct. >> and again, it depends on the context. >> is this not depend on

products and the answer is yes and this is why you should resign specifically calling for the genocide of the jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment. >> it is directed and severe case it is harassment. >> so the answer is yes. >> it is a context dependent decision congresswoman. >> is also focused on what i should've been 70 irrefutable facts, they called for genocide have julie enter jewish people is a call for some of the most terrible violence human beings can perpetrate speak you have any of them seen a ten - seven footage and is she saying this that i was not focused and is, there still not apologizing i noticed harvard president colleen, said that some have confused this and some endosperm she herself is confusing pennsylvania governor joshua saying that mcgill's invasiveness and asked sue and la several board of trustees has a serious decision and they to

make late to the allsup down. >> let's be clear there was a call for genocide on any of us campuses against any group would not be permitted and you cannot apply your principles or you could conduct for bullying and harassment, selectively and allow only for the call for genocide against jews/sinus and supporters of israel to be allowed on your campus one more piece of the cabinet refuting award context, the context in which these demonstrations are taking place is ten - seven, and attended genocide against jews in the nationstate, not two months ago for the worst atrocities perpetrated against the jews of us atrocities of the holocaust and so that is a context that we should be cognizant of. liz: we had holocaust denial is 911 deny have to - seven day nihilism and hamas in the charter calls for genocide and thank you so much for joining us tonight and is so good to see you soon i think you for having

me on. liz: the ncaa president is saying yes, college student athletes should get money and they should get paid via the endorsements and this is a change and this is sure to accelerate the growing fight biological males competing in women's sports and plus back story to why u.s. state attorney general warned that the media outlets against supporting hamas and coverage and we have one of those ag's coming up but first let's check in with our friends dagen mcdowell and traveling to see what their have coming up. >> 200 democrats voted against you choosing the garbage was mainly one want to force you into buying any be a great, great mafia that as well as on economists on elon musk and is calling for a disney's bob iger to find a new job and get out, you're ruining the company bob. >> and dds and senator doc marshall will be joining us in the border is broken, the white house refuses to close as an

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liz: enjoying is still alabama attorney general, see marshall is good to see you and why did you more than a dozen state attorney general sign a letter to media outlets including the new york times and cnn become of putting them on notice about providing materials supporting terrorists like thomas kent was happening here. steve: i think what we saw as a result of the coverage in advance october 7 was that there was a media to the reporting hamas activities we sought occurring through those who had previously - several galas in a racist significance concern not only from a criminal site, when you have statutes on the votes of federal and state level and material support for terrorist organizations but also without truly receiving the news and accurate reporting of what is taking place in the middle east or in fact to receive propaganda for the terrorist organization. liz: the many outlets of the cut ties with these so-called freelance journalists.

in your saying and there's think there's connections than two of you size and you think are doing enough to bet the stories and the media could say well this is an encroachment on their free press rights. >> we as we clearly recognize the freedom of the press and ability to provide sourcing but here is a legitimate question about those who had existing financial relationships organizations that clearly are embedded with him and hamas they begin their invasion into israel on october 7th and ultimately taking lives of and raping israeli citizens that day i wanted no, what was their connection and did they in fact know the fact that these individuals that work within previously had relationships with these terrorist organizations sweetie of the new york times on music i of an evidence that the many outlets were hiring the individuals with most ties to hamas and terrorist organizations have someone who work of the ap and reuters, he was shown missing video there is

carrying a grenade of motorcycle during the ten - seven attacks in ap has also been told the past, visited has had journalists working on the hamas affiliated tv is so this is been an issue you know when you cover a war zone like this, when you cover terrorists, basically, that is like part of the flies the entire region of gaza we have reporters inside their grandmother working in their sources and sometimes you say they make it too close to the sources. steve: we have pictures of one of these individuals kissing the mastermind of the october 7th attack and so when we think about for example, all of the information initially about the activities these really military forces involving a hospital with another was loss of life and what truly happened and you have to question with that information is coming how it is being vented that to be provided to the american people clearly joe biden has knowledge that hamas is a organization but to

the extend media outlets relying on individuals connected to hamas that can we trust the information being given to the american people sweetie of attorney general steve marshall think you for joining us more excited to have back up so former nfl site on a reporter, michelle who is here ncaa's president poses a new plan for the student athletes get paid for things like advertisements and endorsements what will that do the fight over biological males and women scores next on the evening edit.

elizabeth: joining us now, sideline reporter, journalist e who used to cover the national football league, michele tafoya joins us. it's so good to have you on. >> thank you. elizabeth: it's good to see you. we've got this controversy, okay? this is what's going on, ncaa president charlie baker, he's saying, yes, division i schools can let their student at a heats for the first time ever in history get paid by things like enforcement deals. so do you think it's going to escalate the fight over biological males in women's sports? >> well, i don't know if it's going to escalate that, i'm not quite sure how the two are intertwined, but this is going to change the face of college sports forever, that we're going to see, i think particularly in football, we're going to see a massive kind of subconference of

about maybe 68 schools, maybe -- 6-8 schools, maybe fewer, that say we're the money merricks, we're the ones that can afford to pay our students, the michigans, the floridas and north carolinas, and we are going to have our own conference that we're going to control. i think what the ncaa is trying to do is they're trying to stay relevant and trying to keep some measure of control over how student athletes are paid, and they want every a heat on these campuses -- athlete on these campuses to be paid not just through endorsement, but kind of a baseline salary of $30,000 apiece. elizabeth: where do you come down on biological males in women's ports? because they're saying, riley gaines and other female athletes, that they're going to get iced out of things like enforcement deals, they're going to get iced out of things like more scholarship money? you know, lawmakers in the house have been really upset and angry over this. where do you come down on it? >> i don't think biological

males should be competing with biological females in college -- in any sports, frankly. now, if you're talking kindergarteners, first grade, flag football, that's one hinge. but when you're talking about competition where young became have spent their -- women have spent their entire lives whatever the sport and they're been aiming for a scholarship, or a roster spot -- or just a roster spot and to learn that maybe it was taken by a biological male or your place on a swim team was taken by ya thomas and, therefore -- ya thomas and now, transfer, your opportunity is gone -- therefore, your opportunity is gone, it's pat innocently -- patently unfair. we need to push back. we need to remind people this is pro-woman. this is pro-female, biological female athletes. this is what title ix was really for, was to protect women, to promote women within sports and every other aspect of college life and education. and it seems like we're really

going in a bad direction can as far as that's concerned. elizabeth: we're going backwards. you know, you're a veteran journalist. you've been covering sports for a long time. you know how hard it was for women the get where they are with title ix, how hard they fought for that. >> yeah. elizabeth: if you're talking billie jean king, great athletes of the past, and now the biden white house wants to undo title ix protections to include things like gender discrimination for trans if or biological males. >> listen, there is a way around this. no one is telling trans-athletes they can't compete. what they want to suggest very fairly is compete as a biohodgal male -- biological male because that's what or you are. anyone that comes up with this argument that, well, if they've been on puberty blockers, they're taking away their biological edge, not really. there's no definitive research that says that. maybe they diminish them a little bit, but if you were born

male, then you have have had male chrome somes the entirety of your life. and if you want to present as a female, that's one thing. but to take away lanes in a swimming pool, and thes on a championship podium, scholarships away from young women, you mentioned it, i remember my dad when i was a little girling he had three daughters and one son. when title ix passed, he was ec static. he knew his three daughters were going to have an opportunity to compete as much as their brother did. elizabeth: that's sweet. maybe they should are is their own competition. michelle michele tafoya, thank you so much for joining us tonight. and thank you so much for watching. merry christmas. i'm elizabeth macdonald. thanks for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. we're bringing you a lot of news. we're twoapg to stay on the news for you. now it's time for "the bottom line are." hi, dagen and sean. elizabeth: good. good to see you.