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interest rates. a lot of caution ahead of those reports. the 10-year treasury yield has been moving up, it's moving up again at 426 and i haven't chek it had yet and check it now, $71 a barrel and bitcoin and dropping below 41,000 and now back to 41, 8 off the highs of last week. that's the markets and now this. the president had a big weekend, he went to california, held two fundraisers and walked away with an estimated $15 million. hollywood stars were out in force. steven spielberg, barbara streisand, jeffrey katzenburg and eager to open their wallets for the man taking on hated donald trump. hollywood love affair with biden is not shared by middle america. biden came back to a polling

shock. saturday "the wall street journal" put donald trump four points ahead of the president in head-to-head matchup. this morning, cnn released a poll showing trump beating biden 49-44 in georgia and in michigan, trump beats him 10 points, 150-40. it was perhaps desperation that drove the president to invite hillary clinton to join his campaign. nbc's article reads cline ton is popular with women and key parts of the democratic base and remains a fundraising draw and helps biden secure the money to get his messaging out". this is strange. biden doesn't much care for hillary. she edged him out of the 2016 race and it's desperation to bring her in. he'll be out there on the fundraising trail again this week. he has to be and any slacking off is a sign he's running out of steam. he can't afford to believe the polls and looks like the start of another bad week for the president. he has to negotiate some kind of deal on the border, and that's something he really doesn't want to do.

those polls are awful. second harper lanes of varney just getting started. stuart: charlie hurt joins me now. i thought it was going to play music there. all right, charlie, bringing hillary into the campaign. surely a sign of desperation? >> surely, there's no doubt. no, if you're joe biden and you need to get hillary clinton, you have to bring her in to -- against donald trump in order to win over women in the democratic party, you are in deep, deep trouble. the other thing amusing about this is that they're talking about bringing her in to help raise money. you're the president of the united states. the one person that can raise all the money he wants is the president of the united states. the one place he can raise money is hollywood. man, how out of touch do you have to be to pay a guy $15 million who has inflicted this unimaginable misery on

regular working americans? stuart: good question. they're shelling it out. they're paying. >> they don't care. stuart: i don't see how hillary can help his campaign. i don't see it. lauren: is it because obama wouldn't help in a bigger way? >> i think obama definitely will help him at some point, but he's probably eyeing the -- being more of a closer. it all stinks of desperation. stuart: yeah, obama will step in late, usually does. wait till maybe late summer of next year possibly. kevin mccarthy, he's giving some advice to donald trump in 2024. have a look at this. >> i don't see that and this is what i tell president trump. what president trump needs to do in this campaign is about rebuilding and restoring and renewing america. it can't be about revenge. but remember, you have a check and balance system and at the end of the day. >> where's the check and balance in the american party?

>> americans don't want to see the idea of retribution and it's rebuild, restore and renew. you'll see that. stuart: charlie, no revenge. talk about building up america, be positive. is that good advice? >> absolutely and i think kevin mccarthy is right and he's more than the media is giving him credit for and the media wants to focus on talking about retribution and talks about issues and the reason people love him is the issues and he got elected in 2016 because he was right on all the issues that not only democrats but also republicans had ignored for so long and the 2016 election was the most issue-oriented election of the lifetime and those were issues that donald trump brought to the table and no one else had done that before. so i think that his -- the winning card for donald trump is talking about those issues. obviously he's a fighter and his supporters love that about him and his detractors don't like that about him so much. part of the reason they don't like that about him is because they don't want republicans to

fight. and they're so used to having republicans that don't fight, and this is a guy that's right on the issues and he's willing to fight. i think that what we're seeing in the polls right now, donald trump -- we will -- i think we'll laugh that we thought that donald trump might not beat joe biden when this is all over with. stuart: a year to go in a head-to-head matchup and trump wins by four points. that's a crazy position for a sitting president to be in. >> and it's not going to get better and nothing about this is going to get better for joe biden. it only gets worse for joe biden. stuart: got it. charlie, thanks for being with us on a monday morning. good to see you. ohio senator jd vance was asked about possibly being trump's running mate last year and what did he say? lauren: he sidestepped and said he was elected to serve the people of ohio and he'd be happy to serve trump any way that he could. watch this. >> the way it's most effective

and he was a good president and the american people benefit from having the president again. the idea that trump will be radically different than what he was four years ago is just preposterous. he was an effective, successful president. i think he'll be an effective, successful president again and that's why i've endorsed him. lauren: he was responding to a report in axios suggesting that vance and others could stack trump's c cabinet and vance potentially as vp. it was a damming report. he said trump is looking for pre-vetted loyalty and willing to prove they do believe that the 2020 election was stolen. stuart: all right. lauren: that's what axios reported. stuart: got another one for you, senator rand paul issued an ominous warning to other cou countries. lauren: it was ominous and voted down a request for $11 billion

and we have too much debt. we can't keep printing money and he issued this warning. >> this is an extraordinary thing and interest rates are now becoming the highest or one of the largest in our budget so really people can talk about wanting to help other countries and we don't have the money and has to be printed up and it's destroying our currency and why it cost more to go to the grocery store to buy your groceries and can't allow it to happen and there's a possibility to go too far with this, and we could have a cataclysmic speck downturn depression and recession of the depression. lauren: the issue of talking about funding for ukraine and israel on the southern border is moral and emotional for many voters and if they're not given money to win and need a victory for putin to take more of europe. for those that want to attach border funding for those supplemental and that for me is an emotional issue.

all these people coming into our border overrunning it and overrunning our resources. it's emotional so you have big topics are attached to all this money. stuart: there's going to be decision this week and ukraine aid or action on the border. they'll make the choice. lauren: biden is having it and it was a good move on biden's part. stuart: back to the markets and green for the dow industrials and they're up about 40 points and s&p up 2, nasdaq down 30. david warrenson with us this morning and specializes in dividend picks and you've got electric power to kick it off. >> we've got to get one utility name in there and only one we own. utilities are the worst performing sector this year, and we believe generally that performing sectors one year become better performing the next. it's got a 4.5% dividend yield

and absolute best pick within the sector, american electric power. stuart: is there much downside risk for the stock price? >> i really don't believe so. it's about 20% below value and interest rates have come down and pushes utilities higher, stuart. stuart: tell me about verizon, you've picked this before and there's a solid dividend yield. >> well, it's up about 24% in the last two months. we've owned it for several years and they've been in a few years of spending billions of dollars in cap x building out 5g, now we think that they're finally starting to really reap the rewards of that, and then in terms of their home, wifi, internet business, they just get a great deal of some of the streaming services bundling these together and so verizon is really hot right now and still has a very large dividend yield and we believe that was very

safe. stuart: big picture, please. will the federal reserve lower interest rates in the next six months? >> yes, they will lower interest rates in the next six months and debate only about how much. a point, half a point and markets indicate they're only three quarters of a point and fed cuts rates by next summer and it's long overdue, stuart. stuart: got it, david bahnsen, that ythank you and see you agan soon. lauren is looking at movers and nike is one of the big movers. lauren: up two and a third and calling biden a promising recovery opportunity ahead of earnings like the 31st and inventory and fewer discounts and 135 price target. stuart: tell me about pinterest. shares near two year high and 35, 53 and rbc raises them to outperform with the price high target and this is a way to play if you're a advertiser and want your ads where people are

impulse shopping and i never thought of pinterest as impulse shopping sight. stuart: now at $996. who says it's going higher? lauren: citi group going to $1,100 and see strength in the core business and this is a stock up just about 70% this year. stuart: lauren, now this, president zelensky meeting with president biden at the white house tomorrow and will biden pressure zelensky to talk peace with the russians? could be. katie mcfarland -- kt mcfarland breaks it down. is israel winning the ground war? trey yingst has the latest from southern israel, next. ♪

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but were thanksgiving this wawarted and ziti -- thwarted. benjamin netanyahu saying in warning to hamas. >> dozens of hamas terrorists have been surrendering to our forces. they're laying down their weapons and handing themselves over to our fighters. it will take more time and the world is in full swing, but this is the beginning of the end of hamas. i say to hamas terrorists, it is over. don't die for them, surrender now. reporter: he's talking about the leader of hamas. as the activity on the southern front increases as does it on the northern front with lebanon, yesterday israel's chief of staff as a resulting troops there and israel reportedly set a deadline for a diplomatic solution to put hezbollah to the

border and a lot of activity on the region and comes as there's 137 hostages inside gaza. stuart. stuart: trey yingst, thank you very much. kh mcfarland joining us now. is israel winning the war? >> yeah this, is the beginning of the end for hamas. the way you can tell is that israel has taken out the mid level officers of hamas. that's parent because once they take out the top level, which they'll be doing now and going forward in the next couple days and weeks and then the guys at bottom and tens of thousands of hamas fighters at the bottom, there's no place to report to and in the good old days and they're mowing the grass and israel would go take a few top leaders out of hamas and go back to israel and hamas comes back in a year or two's time doing the same thing all over again and taking out the entire mid

level and they're surrendering and doing it all the time before the goal is and to eradicate hamas and that's degrading and looking to eradicate them. stuart: would you put a time on that because israel doesn't vascularized all the time in the world and world pressure is on it big time. what have they got, a month, two month s? >> yeah, two months on the outset and you're right to point that out s. far the biden administration, to my surprise, has stood by israel and was supplying them with weapons and sharing intelligence but diplomatically at the un vetoing a lot of anti-israeli efforts at united nation and biden is with them but how long can biden stay with them as world public opinion changes? two months on the outside but hopefully getting it gone in a month. stuart: biden invited president zelensky to the white house and think biden will pressure zelensky to talk peace with the russians because we don't want to get involved in an extended war with the russians and peace will be mentioned in that

meeting. >> i sure hope so because we're in another forever war and israel has a plan and deadline and goals and ammunition to get there. they know what they're doing. zelensky and ukraine, noble as their battle is, they don't seem to have a plan. is it a negotiated solution? to push moscow -- i mean russian troops back to moscow and get them out of crimea? get them out of ukrainian territory? nobody really knows and ukraine is not winning and at best it's a stale meat and i hope biden is singing the song telling the ukraines get the best deal you can and win the fight and get the peace because the world and maybe russia needs to get out of ukraine. stuart: could the ukrainians louis lose flat out if they don't get this extra

$100 billion worth of aid from the united states? >> that's a hard one because they're fighting and russia will fight fighting and it's more likely it's a stalemated solution and russia can keep fighting for a long time as long as oil prices are high and they're going down a bit and gives russia enough money in the coffers to go buy weapons some place else and the best bet is settle now and it's not what ukraine has been talking about doing and not what the biden administration as been encouraging them to co. stuart: thank you, kt. always appreciate it, see you again soon. thank you, kt. the u.s. is looking for partners to help combat the recent houthi attacks in the red sea. have we signed up a partner yet? lauren: no, but we don't want to go it alone and reportedly the international response to

safeguard shipping and international shipping in the red sea and it's a super high and thousands of ships and millions of barrels of oil per day and the houthis saying we're going to target any ship in that area headed to israel. obviously that's not sitting well with israel and reports that netanyahu told biden over the weekend that israel will take action against the houthis if he, biden, and the u.s. does not. clearly the president is trying to ratchet down the rhetoric and at the same time houthis and other iran-backs groups attacks u.s. bases since the middle of last month 87 times. stuart: got that. all right, thanks, lauren. what we have coming up for you, hunter biden lead attorney take ago more addressive approach expects gun charges thrown out in federal court. david spunt with the story. a left wing group media matters accuses media matters of peddling on x and media matters trying to silence musk because

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i love it. nasdaq down 50 and there you go. kind of balancing out, doesn't it. start with shake shack. lauren: look at stock go up almost 8% and long time ceo randy is retiring and he's been at the company for a quarter century when it started as a hot dog cart. why would the stock be up when a leading figure is retiring. wall street is excited to select someone with deep restaurant experience to help them grow further. stuart: paramount. lauren: downgraded to sell at 6.3% and reports last week and did them on the show and die dance media was interested in buying some of all of paramount and now there's reports that they don't see any upside for shareholders in taking on paramount. stuart: kohls department store stock is up before the grounds

department stores to chose from showing on the boards and think of this too. >> kohls, mace's and nordstrom surging and 5.8 billion offer. turning mace's around by taking it private. stuart: doing this deal and leaving by two and going down with lord and taylor and niemann marcus. >> media matters and that's the left wing of the nonprofit and conservative media and they claimed major ads on x formally known as twitter popping up to anti-semitic content and attorney general from the state of missouri drew bailie joining me now. your honor, you're going after media matters. spell out exactly what they did wrong? >> i believe in the right to free speech is the foundation of the public and we'll fight against radical progressive tyrants that lie, cheat and steal to take this away from

americans and we're not going to let that matter. media matters defrauded missourians in a scheme to take the money and convert to a manipulation of the marketplace and attack on the last platform dedicated to free speech in america. we're launching an investigation and we're going to obtain documents for the bottom and rooted out with state statutes and hold them accountable to protect missourians and our constitutional rights. stuart: your honor, listen to what elon musk had to say about media matters. roll tape, please. >> there is an evil propaganda machine so i just generally am against evil propaganda machines, and so we are suing them in every country they operate and we will pursue not just the organization but anyone funding that organization. i want to be clear about that, anyone funding that organization will be -- we will pursue them. so media matters is an evil propaganda machine.

they can go to hell. i hope they do. stuart: that's a pretty clear message. mr. attorney general, do you believe that media matters is an evil propaganda machine? would you go that far? >> absolutely. look, media matters is built on lies and this is a radical progressive advocacy group mas kansas city chiefs raiding as new -- masquerading as news organization and they're doing a lot better when they took money from every day americans to include missourians and used to defraud advertisers on twitter and attack on the last platform free speech and manipulation occurred when they changed the alga relationships and -- algorithms and they complain and emphasize that in a manipulated offense and that harms missourians and this investigation is a tool that we have in the disposal and we'll fight back and we're not going to let media matters defraud missourians and we're going to expose the lies and fraud and

deceit. stuart: original fraud that media matters said that there was anti-semitic content placed next to regular ads. was that wrong and inaccurate? >> well, i think that's what the investigation seeks to expose is the fraud, manipulation and lies. i would point out that if media matters didn't like continue verse ideal speech, they should have offered counter speech and not rip off missourians and receive a radical progressive attempt destroying free speech in america. they don't like twitter because they can't control it. this represents a new front in the fright for free speech and navigate on this issue and fight for free speech in the beginning of missouri v biden is we're fighting to put a stop to government censorship on big tech and litigated in the gag order placed on tram and this should be advocacy groups and manipulating the marketplace to

attack dedicated to free speech and we're holding them accountable and protect missourians in the constitutional rights. stuart: got it. andrew bailey, missouri attorney general. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for covering this important story. stuart: yes, sir. it's a busy week for hunter biden's legal team and plan to drop the gun charges against them and expect a preliminary hearing on the new tax charges later this week. david spunt in washington. what is hunter's legal team saying about the new charges? >> they plan to fight them at this point. we don't know when he'll have the first appearance in court and, stuart, this morning, he and his legal team has two court fights and two federal court fights against a special council appointed by attorney general merrick garland and the president's son is suing the irs and in this recent tax case in california, the government said between 2016 and 2020 they spent it on drugs, escorts and girlfriends and luxury hotels and rental properties and exotic

cars and clothing and other items of a personal nature and ensured everything but his taxes and these charges over the taxes not a surprise, stuart, because special council david wise that you see there and said over the summer in a court document and likely charge hunter for tax crimes in california or dc and chose california because it's in the statute of limitations and it's where hunter called home since 2018. here's hunter's attorney this morning. >> did he file a false return? it's a yes or no. >> it's not a yes or no because you want to drill -- no, of course it's not. in order to file a false return that's actionable, the following things depending on the statute has to occur. it has to be willful, deliberate. hunter was late in failing and paying taxes in certain years. that's a given. as are millions and millions of americans that do the same thing. >> stuart both republicans and

democrats in the senate, the body that once included then senator joe biden as a member for decades from delaware say they're on board with the charges. watch this. >> i think hunter biden will be held accountable in court for any violations of the law he's committed. >> if his name were anything other than bind, he'd not have been able to milk billions from foreign enties, let's start there. >> the president's son facing charges from a gun purchase in 2018 and could face two trials next year. same year his dad is running to keep his job as commander in chief, stuart stuart: david spunt in washington. thank you. billboard trucks calling for harvard's presidents to step down. they're swarming the campus. we'll tell you more about that . the university of pennsylvania's president stepping down after getting a clash for testimony on capitol hill. billionaire bill cassioppierman said the -- ackerman said the problem is deeper than the presidents of the schools and

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anti-semitism on campus and universities aren't doing anything about it and more than the three universities and president that testify on capitol hill last week and it and university of pennsylvania pushed out and harvard faculty and apologized after this exchange and congresswoman elise stefanik last week. >> i assume you're familiar with the term antifada? >> i've heard that, yes. >> is that hateful speech contrary to harvard's code of conduct or allowed at harvard? >> it's at odds with the value of harvard. our values also -- >> is that against the code of conduct at harvard? >> we embrace a commitment of free expression and even of views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful.

lauren: elise stefanik asked her 17 times is calling for the genocide of jews a violation of harvard's code of conduct. she didn't get it and got the con vascularized luted answer and this is how -- convoluted answers. people see state queens as genocide is okay on harvard and other campuses but mis-gendering is not okay. higher need for reform. >> one of the executions is they were overred and trying to be careful and the morality in question. >> there's no moral areaty. if you can't say genocide is bad and wrong and there's something wrong with you. thank you, lauren. stuart: president of the university of pennsylvania liz mcgill resigned and followed backlash over congressional testimony on anti-semitism. grady trimble outside of upenn.

how are students reacting to the resignation? >> stuart, some jewish students have told usa today that they still feel uncomfortable on campus. as student told the new york post there's professors and fellow students they're openly anti-semitic and there's some of the problems and jewish students are talking about and might refer to the fact that liz mcgill announced her resignation over the weekend and that doesn't mean for the problems doesn't mean she's going away either and look at what the university says and she'll remain a tenured faculty member and going into law and president mcgill staying on and interim president is appointed and upenn searches for its new president and the president of harvard and mit are also facing pressure to step down. they testified before congress last week and not outright condemn calls for genocide either.

the house is launching an investigation into these three and other elite universities. >> we want to look at columbia, cornell, and many, many other institutions. we want hard working taxpayer dollars, not sent to places that promote genocide and anti-semitism. we will take the investigation where it leads us and see what happens. reporter: the harvard crimson, which is the student newspaper reports that the top governing body at harvard met for a regularly scheduled meeting yesterday and while that was going on, the crimson also reports that more than 500 faculty members signed onto a letter urging the top governing body to resist calls to remove the president of harvard. stuart. stuart: 500 people signed on to that one. what was on those billboards at harvard's campus over the weekend? lauren: calls for the president of harvard to resign.

there was a board meeting last night, what do they do? this is one of the billboard trucks. klaudine gay, the best friend hamas ever had. 17 members of congress calling for her to resign. does the board back her up? grady says 500 former faculty saying she shouldn't have to resign because of this. stuart: my money says they'll back her up and she'll not resign. lauren: i'm with you on harvard. she's newer to the school as the president. i'm with you on harvard. mit, i'm not sure. the other schools, i'm not sure. but upenn, liz mcgill is out. one down. stuart: dave portnoy will not hire anyone from harvard university or pennsylvania or mit until the school's dean steps down. dave portnoy joining us in the next hour. weight loss drugs may also help people control their drinking and new research is taking

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stuart: we're going back to the pro palestinian protests on capitol hill. that's where that young person there has climbed onto the sculpture or whatever it is. some are being arrested and moe pro palestinian and i wonder what they'll be charged with and arrested and taken away. what fine will they pay and what pent for interfering with democracy and how weight loss drugs like ozempic and wegoovy and doctors say could help cut down on alcohol use. dr. m marc siegle joining us. is this for real? >> stuart, i think it is. let's caution it's only six people they studied at oklahoma university and all six had this reduction and it's a dramatic change.

there's a burn much of ways they work but the most likely is they suppress hunger in the brain and most likely suppress the addiction center in the brain too, which leads to alcohol abuse or alcohol use disorder. the other possibility is they also work on the liver and slow transition through the stomach and all that could actually improve metabolism and could have an impact and the most likely is suppressing the instinct to drink in the brain. still needs to be studied further. stuart: if it's six people, we're in a study where all six are abusing alcohol, were they alcoholics? >> yes, absolutely. and that's why it's dramatic even though it's so small. what they need before i can use it in my office, your question and what do i use in my office

and i want large study comparing those who don't drink and those with a alcohol disorder we need a larger study and i like the finding ands believe they're real. stuart: alcohol use dis-administeredder is that the new name -- disorder is that the new name for alcoholism. >> you've got to watch what you say so ab chutely. i don't know that needed to be changed because people that drink too much have a problem with becausing alcohol. so i'm okay with the other designation. stuart: we've got new research i should say that shows exercise may not be the key to living longer and moving around too much could actually accelerate the aging process. okay, set the record straight and what's with this? >> what's really interesting about this study, stuart, is finland used 1100 twins and

followed them over a decade and they looked to see what the alcohol was and if you cheers and didn't exercise, if you were sedentary. what they found. if you sit on your duff on the couch all day long, you're not going to live longer, sorry. that's not the headline, guys. you have to exercise. but the other thing they found is fascinating that if you exercise, it's probably the lifestyle changes that are associated with it that are really making you live longer. people that exercise aren't eating as much carbohydrates and as much desert and drinking more water and like weight. all of those things lead to longevitity and may not be the exercise itself and extreme exercise by the way, maybe extreme exercise and this is a question brought up by the study, maybe extreme exercise causes a lot of wear and tear leading to more health problems. i think that's fair. and i think it's moderate exercise that we're looking for

here. everybody off your duff and stuart varney does that and i do that, you do that. stuart: i do? that's news to me, doctor. >> you're an exerciser. stuart: i'm a walker. i don't go to gyms. just look at me. >> you're in wonderful form. you're always exercising. stuart: we're done, doctor. thanks very much. see you later. one company rolling out the world's very first ai doctors office. can you tell me how that works? lauren: a doc in a box. this is healthcare as a product not a service. when you go inside that and looks like a movie theater and dark inside and 10 by 10 room and sit down and use artificial intelligence and scan your body and doing it in sacramento, california and expanding next year.

eventually it'll do things like take your blood without a nurse or someone else doing it and even a needle. it can measure your waste to hip measurements to detract likelihood of cancer via measurement. if you're interested, the cost is $99 per month. you'd be the healthiest human being alive. stuart: go once a month, $99 and away you go? lauren: yep. stuart: got to go to the special room. lauren: yeah, putting them in places convenient for people outside of the gym or shopping mall. i wouldn't want to know all the results actually. i don't need to go to that chair every month. thank you. retired four star general jack keane on president zelensky's upcoming trip to u.s.. steve forbes is blaming corporations for inflation. dave portnoy on show high ohtani's $7 million deal with

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