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new fox business poll shows a widening of former president's lead in iowa with over 50% support for first time he is plus 34. and caucuses are dwie 25 days away, hillary vaughn is live at white house with details. reporter: good evening, happy to be here. new fox business polls give a great look at how 2024 race is shaking up. and former president trump is gaining ground despite the legal cases piling up, a new fox business poll shows trump with 34% lead over rest of hits g.o.p. rivals with 52% supporting him, up from 46% in september. governor ron desantis with 18% support, and former ambassador nikki haley with 16%, former president trump has most loyal supporters ahead to iowa caucuses.

compare to desantis, 59 percent say, he is 100% their guy, but 39 percent of desantis fans say, they could change their mind, haley supporters 51% for sure she is the one but 43% could be swayed. with a break down of issues, economy is top of mind, 38% say most important that is down from 46% in september. immigration is a close second, it is the one that surged the most since september, now 27% say that is number one voting issue for them, up from 15% just two months ago. immigration, a big problem issue for president biden, he seeks reelection, so many people have come across border claiming asylum, they are giving them court dates 7 years from now. we try today to ask what the president thinks about that. >> some illegal border crossers are given court

dates 2031, what do they do here for certain years. >> a better question put to dhs, i am not in position to talk about specific cases. >> someone lived here 7 years and presumably got a work permit, if their claim is denied are they deported or a problem for the next president. >> he will not get into hypotheticals. he believes legal pathways to citizenship. reporter: whether to deport or not 7 years from now is a problem for another president, immigration is a problem for president biden right now and it is not go away. >> hillary, you are tough, so tough. taking him down, that was something. anyway, wish you a merry christmas, and peter, won't see you next week, but you all take care and thank you for all you do.

larry: 25 days to go before the iowa caucus, president trump appears to be running away with gain, up to 52% in latest fox business poll, a big game over cement, fi -- settl september. he has a 35 lead over nearest competitors. pomspolls are not votes but they are snap shots of what voters are thinking and fox business poll were likely part pan in caucuses and the caucuses are 25 days away. so, we're coming down to the short strokes in poll, hillary suggested 83% of trump supporters were certain to support him, and desantis and haley supporters just above 50, and 65% of voters would be vat tied if mr. trump wins

and desantis and haley under 50 percent on that metric, mr. trump is running up strong voter majority poll shows that voters want a strong leader with mental ability and stamina and someone who can defeat by biden t that spells trump. >> and 58% of iowa voters saw nothing wrong with trump, 21% worried about something wrong. and 16% say maybe he did something illegal, almost 3/5 over 3/5 of those, trump legal issues are nonissues, i have argued that for many month, liberal media may obsess about trump indictments but the rest of america does not care. a concern growing over

immigration. i'll repeat. donald trump large polling lead is mainly a result of his affectively communicating his positions on key issues, economic growth and border security especially, drill baby drill a tax cuts and deregulation and shut down the southern border, former president has talked issues is paying off, mr. trump many campaign speeches and videos and white papers if we were to win look for them to reopen fossil fuel spigots on public lands roll back joe biden's socialist green new deal. and roll back the electric vehicle mandates that all of the rest of greeny war on various household appliances like showers and toilets and gas stories and air-conditioners and coal

fired pizza, dishwashers and microwaves, other things that joe biden trying to jam down our throats. mr. trump will seek to repeal onerous biden regulation that clogged arteries of small the businesses and raised prices for middle class, you can expect mr. trump to go after deep state federal bureaucracy, including reforms to hiring and firing tenured civil service, and make his 2017 tax cut permanent and you might launch new prereforms and slash joe biden's over spending and over b borrowing and likely to move quickly to stop unfair trading practicing and you can bet he will aim to finish the border wall, restore some kind of remain in mexico and title 42 to

stop biden's flow of illegal immigration and likelyic to expand on prior efforts. all year long he talked about these issues, voters have paid attention. as campaign proceeds in the new year, there will be other issues, and plenty of policy b bl blueprints from the former president, he has tremendous term and proven to be a strong leader, let me under sw score da that last money whether the economy, border or trader foreign policy, nation yearns for a strong leader following joe biden's incredibly weak postures on everything this will be a big join r general election, you know, what i

call it trump tough, that is my riff, trump tough. all right. we'll talk about this. joining me now, we have jackie deangelis. and migrate pal mark simone. mark, we could go through a lot of numbers. i'm talking trump tough. trump tough, after biden's weakness and almost every aspect. i think that will be a hidden campaign issue. >> they usually in every election go for opposite. carter to reagan, and -- >> there you go. >> and trump is tough. and there is nothing -- he has a lead now that nobody at this point in polls has lost a nomination, he has the nomination, he is bulletproof thanks to democrats, nothing could a

happen to him. he is now bullet proof, expee h and he has the nomination. desantis gets wiped out in iowa, nikki haley will not win south carolina her own state. that will be the end of her. larry: i think, garrett, this is important. we watched other night, kash patel, do you know how many houthis there are lobbying bombs at our ships clogging up the red sea, there are 2 thousand. 2 thousand. yet, joe biden is afraid to take any steps, or afraid to take any steps gabe iran. or afraid to take any steps to close the southern border this is why i am size t -- emphasize the trump tough idea, people want a strong

tough leader to change the direction of media. mainstream media will never cover it. it will be at most y an untold point, that is what i think. it was not tested in this policy much, what do you make of that. >> i think people have seen biden's weakness on the world stage and in america, the border is wide open and afghanistan toppled by taliban, and russia invaded ukraine and israel attacked by hamas, people have missed means -- they miss the mean tweets and statements. world was a less dangerous place. i think an interesting part is president trump said this, his voters are loyal to him, that is why a lot have been annoyed with ron desantis and takes other shots at him, they like the tax cuts and energy, and

second cure border and supreme court justices he was the picking, they miss that, that the contrast in primary, up 35 points in primary this is massive, 83% of voters are locked in with trump. larry: it is -- caucuses are tricky. polls are not votes, you equipment down to start -- you are coming down to short strokes, jackie, your take on this. the key issues, they are economy and border, but the economy has gone down and border has gone up. you have over 10,000 biden illegals comes "every day is extra" day, we have talked about this on your great show before, economic issues still number one, but immigration is almost tied. >> i think that immigration issues have come to a stay or state near you, people are really feeling it whether you are a local mayor like adamsa new york city or a governor like

abbott, people are tired of being you know pressed more squeezed more to pay for people who have come into this country illegally that directly ties into being an economic issue. and biden has lost control. i'll add to this third top issue, it was economy, immigration and thin foreign policy. look at how he handled foreign policy, president xi jinping came from china to san francisco tell him we're going to take taiwan. no one is scared of him, you have other nations that are profiting as we continue to shrivel and shrink in united states. larry: like that great word. >> i think that people' trump tough, they want a strong leader. you are right, carter, going into reagan, and i think it is all over the place, no body wants to look at this. trump has a way, he is not necessarily will take you to war, he is an anti-war guy.

he would never have left afghanistan the way we left, but he might have made a deal, he would to it from a position of strength mark simone. >> he only president in our lifetime that never sent a troop into battle anywhere, we had peace from k kim jong-un and putin, he knew thousand keep them quiet, right now with israel, everyone in america is not -- does not feel that biden is protecting israel. we know that tr trump would. trump would protect the border, people look at this border and say if you can't run a border how do you protect the nation from an attack, trump is the perfect guy th for this. larry: garrett, do you think trump would not do anything

while houthis threw plifls ballistic missiles at our ships. >> we take them out. he has the mullah's cell phone numbers. larry: we would do a google map. and tell them where they live. you are right, they would not do it preemptively. the world was safer and our allies were safer under president trump, he evase rated ice ease off the face of planet, china with tariffs, standing up to

them, i don't think this ul be happening under trump. larry: jackie, immigration rising. trump talked to m mexico president, i believe it was nieto then obrador, they didn't want the remain in mexico, then trump said fine i'll double your tariffs and you will never sell there are car in united states, guess what they decided that remain in mexico was a good idea. they put in 50 thousand troops and a lot of money. i like the trade negotiating, we'll have bob lighthizer on later. before that, that is the kind of toughness negotiating that needs to be done, joe biden can't solve any of these problems,

nobody is afraid of biden. >> absolutely not, he walks around touting bidenomics, they told him specifically down say bidenomics, i was joking it must be pause h he forgot. >> we would not be in any of these situation whether with iran or with our neighbor to the south of us, or with china, whoever our enemies are he would take care of it in advance. larry: how about a gas line powered car. >> he will drill. larry: how about you can't have a cole fired pidza in pizza. >> little stuff adds up. biden has nickel and indictmented the american consumer for three years, they are sick of it. >> trump would be first president to spend his lifetime buying kitchen appliances. millions of people.

they said joe biden is best politician that money can buy. i think that a lot of this is -- this green energy stiff, it like is infrastructure, a chance to hand out contracts money overpay for everything any get little. larry: last one. i don't know whether you like this, i'll tell you that there is a strong chance if mr. trump wins he will seek to restore executive budget impoundment authority to cut spending because congress can't do it, won't do it, nixon of the last guy to have it, we know what happened with watergate and left wing congress, trump wants to restore impoundment authority, you can have it right there take away biden subsidies and phony loans, how about budget authority, budget impounding am, congress will love that. >> congress would not love

that. larry: garrett. >> you would be surprised. larry: you have to be tough. >> i think it sip rifting, all things that we're talking about reckless spending and taxation lead to this inflation that is crushing american people, and getting rid of keystone pipeline. and made us more reliant on middle east. which is bad. i think you know, that something that president trump could do to. >> every place he goes starting with cnn debate last winter. he said drill baby drill that is biggest applause line, that has to mean something. >> that will fix the prob lems. problem. >> mark simone garrett and jackie deangelis. thank you so much. weekdays 1:00 p.m. right here on fox business. fox business, it is winning every place, we have our own

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larry: welcome back, a question, is joe biden jeopardizing our national security by letting japan, nippon steel, buyout u.s. steel. joining he now robber lighthizer. -- robert. merry christmas, happy new year. i know your answer, should they stop the deal? you have allies, bob, you have jd jd vance and a couple others, you would not do the deal, you would recommend ge against it. >> merry christmas larry, i

represented u.s. steel for decades that is my it is claimer and most of domestic steel industry i have not for 7 years. i am a faithful watcher,y it voted of this program -- devoted of this program, yesterday i watched you and art talk about this. i thought, this is a little bit like watching two of my favorite people talk about how tofi feed a unicorn, you assume there is free trade in steel, there is no free trade in steel. the big problem with steel probe alley and has been for -- global and has been for 50 years, massive excess capacity. there is way too much steel. when china joined the wto in 2 in 2000, they had been 121 tons of capacity,

now they have 1.1 billion tons of w capacity. there is no free trade, people create steel industries because they want them for their own development. the question is how do you manage it. second thing, let's look at nippon steel, they are not a bunch of boy scouts, i love japan. and i have been a big fan they are a great ally in particular in trade matters. but nippon steel has been judged to be engaged in unfair trade with united states for at least last 30 years, they have been involved. and let me ask you, do you think you could put together's bunch of money and go buy nippon steel in japan, there is not a chance in the world. countries don't let this happen. first, is there a national

security issue, of course, there is, it was not just president trump who did the 232, ronald reagan had a tsteel program that also saved u.s. industries and saved tens of thousands of middle class jobs. they both determined it was important for international security. first time we brought it up --. larry: i love you. i sat around the table with you during reagan years, i felt, here is what you taught me, we have to strongly protect our advance technological crown jewels and unfair trading practices, especially with china, not only but especially. i, agree 100%. the issue of reciprocity, you and president trump, we have to have reciprocity,

one side if the other side comes at us with unfair trading practices we have to do something about it, if we settle it with lower tariffs find. i am okay with that, i never thought, i was not a part of administration when the steel tariffs, i did not think they were useful. these are all our allies, japan s cap c canada and germany, i fell steel is wrong place to start. i am now interested in, the bidens want to remove some of the china tariffs and put in new china tariffs on electric vehicles, and relate -- to me that is wrong approach. i would got let china off of the hook on anything, that is where we will agree am

tell me if i am wrong. >> no, you are right about, that first, it matters on this last point, it matters who owns american industry. matters that we have tree jobs and production is high-tech important absolutely, is basic manufacturing important, for sure, you can't be a great country up unless you have great manufacturing and you need the middle class jobs, these people make the community that make our country great. reagan staved industry i -- saved the industry at a time of crisis. china is a bad actor. they are an existential threat, weed to to be able to be a bigger, stronger, better economy than china, we should be raising tariffs on them, i am confident we will do that in a new

administration. larry: you are right, one thing, reading your book and your articles, trade policies have to have economic impact on the middled class. and the lower income classes, i agree. i don't think that -- i don't want to get caught up with u.s. steel, i don't think they are a big factor, but i think your bigger point correct. and unfair trading practices and reciprocity are huge issues, i think this president trump has another term he will rightfully about after that. i hope you did after it with him how about that. >> well, that is something we'll see down the road. i'll tell you, he has his eye on the ball, and the ball is chinas and that existential threat and jobs, jobs and jobs. larry: you are right, merry christmas, happy new year bob lighthizer.

>> if all we disagreed was with a puney u.s. steel deal what the heck that progress, we'll talk soon. coming up, congressman wesley hunt, he has been tearing up campaign trail in iowa for donald trump, giving us his view and we have mr. wonderful kevin o'leary, telling us 'stock market reaching new highs. good day today. over 300 points, kudlow trust is doing well. on fair trading practice is a bad idea, i'm q c kudlow, merry christmas everyone, merry christmas.

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larry: texas congressman wesley hunt is burning it up in iowa, going out there for donald trump. where is he? he favorite texas

congressman. wesley thank you. >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas to you. larry: so, you know you are appearing in mr. trump's white papers and missives, make america great, you are out there in iowa or you were, what to you hear? what are are -- they saying? why is he doing so well? >> so far this year i've been to iowa 3 times on behoff of president trump, from i'm hearing they want our country back our border to could secure, they want our economy back. and we cannot wait a single day once we have a new president 2024 to get it done, we know president trump can walk in on day one and make this happen. and that is why he is doing so well. i tell you, being on ground and around people and seeing how excited they are for

president trump, that is amazing to watch him travel over the country his plane with a stop here and a stop there a really and a ufcfights energy and focus he has on issues that matter to americans are what got me off the side line to campaign for this man. my question is, where are joe biden's se surrogates? i don't see anything like he campaigning on behalf of joe biden, no one is defending him, amazing how they vanished. larry: wesley a great question, i'm not sure i'm the best guy to ask, that they have not contacted me, i hope they don't. biggest issue. when you are -- you give your campaign set up speech, you come off the podium, you go to y your farm and go to hog fair. i have been on iowa caucuses

a few time, what do you hear? >> the border. these people are fed up with having the porous border, you think about 7 million people entering, illegally, and fentanyl pouring in to kill every american 6 time, people are fed up. are we's country or not, if anyone like he a combat veteran, i am wondering what i fought for if we allowing terrorists, cartels to run the southern border to, interthe nation with impunity, no one is towing anything about it -- no one is doing anything about it. our czar is kamala harris our president has not been down to the border, she isicking checking for root causes, the root cause starts on pennsylvania after new. >> shut it town there figure out what is going on and

work from bottom, and ern understands we are founding on immigrants, i get that. but the way we're handling this is un-american. this is not what we're founded upon, we want people here, but we want people here legally. now i'm seeing like ied's, and people on terrorist watch list released into the country, we have no idea where they are, we should be terrified. this is what people want to stop. that semithat is my number one issue on campaign trail that i hear in iowa. larry: texas congressman wesley hunt, merry christmas, and happy new year we'll see you after the new year. >> merry christmas. >> thank you. larry: now switch gears to stock market, it wound up big, fox business gerri willis with a lot more for us, you keep delivering a great rally. reporter: you bring me in with the stocks go up, i

noticed, they are back. stocks rally after a broad sell-off yesterday with all 3 major av averaging ends in the green. so good performance there. stock advance on hopes for a pivot by federal reserve and a soft landings for economy, treasures mixed at the end of the day, third quarterfinal gdp revised down to 4.90% from 5.2%, and higher than second quarter 2. .1%. >> s&p advance -- you like to see that. good news for homebuyers mmost g gang rates continue to fall. >> thank you very much gerri willis, merry christmas. >> for more, bring in kevin

o'leary. shark tank investor. mr. wonderful, kevin, here is a hidden colonel, i think that stock been well because i call profits, companies have to be profitable. if they don't have profits they have to contract, they have surprised on the upside. along with interest rates maybe surprising on down side. what do you make of that combination? might it last? >> i af i agree. if is better, not just s&p 500, that you focused on it was driven by m magnificent 7 tech stocks, the russell 2000, american

small cap companies have opinion performing that is an index where we think policy will be in 14 months. if you thought you were getting less regulation, and interest rates will hold here at 5 . 5%, car loans and 7 1/2. we'll have a soft landing. what does that affect most, small cap companies, it is -- people say let's talk tdow, if you opened russrussell 2000 the lack 6 weeks you are killing it. i am policy. so rat least money thinks that 50% we'll get petter regulatory environment. that is what matters. larry: it does. so, why should the fed, if you have a good stack market

-- stock market and there is no recession, i think there will be a slowdown next year, why should the fed be out there. telling people they will be slashing their policy target rates? that is not necessary. stock market is booming, why should the fed do it unless this is election year juicing of the economy as my friend kevin hassett said. >> particular be, but i don't think that fed making's move in q1, market is optimistic, it does not have to, 5 1/2% terminal rate the economy has already adjusted. and january 18, hearings on small businesses in america, i have always said this where 6 out of 10 jobs are created, finally secretary of commerce. i'm di'm going to the hill. i'm your reporter there, i am will meet with her on 18th and her staff, bridge mig analyst -- br

bringing my analyst, show me the money, i think this of that money will get to small business. i am excited. we got the juice, in printing money, we have the feds slowing don't. we have the soft landing. we have broadening of s&p 500 and s&p 500. and the russell 2000, this is a fantastic holiday season, rudolph the reindeer has arrived, all, quit i stocks, i am show happy. larry: i'm for it, tell her to cut facts and regulations that will also help small businesses. >> lower taxs. >> bipartisan, imagine this is bipartisan. she is a democrat, i'm both sides of aisle on something account, who hates a entrepreneur, the economy? none of them. larry: k kevin o'leary, we love mr. wonderful.

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larry: with more than 40 allegations of plagiarism. i don't know how harvard president claudine gay can still be harvard president, joining me now alan dershowitz. author of war against the jews. help me out, charges of plagiarism are mounting, she is still there, i think an ordinary student or professor would not still be there. >> you are right. i had a case some years ago, i ripped senior who was applying to medical school, he was disel dyslexic. the secretary forgot to put foot notes in he was

disciplined. we argued it was an accident. it of the just a mistake. the university said there is no such thing as honest mistake with plagiarism, this is is liability. if you apply that standard, who almost didn't get to medical school, when you apply that to president gay it is not close, what they say is, well maybe she was not reckless. how do you not cite full paragraphs you quoted without putting quotation marks. larry: professor dershowitz you spend your career there, what message you that harvard think it is sending this is a big national story now. and i don't know what message they think they are sending. >> i know the message, is there are two categories of

people at harvard those who come under protection of diversity, equity and inclusion, and the rest of the students. jewish kid, asian kids, kids who don't come from protected minorities and backgrounds, school, supplies a double standard, if you are a dii protected person, you don't get fired if you are not, you are in trouble. larry: what i don't understand, part two, sir, why doesn't she step down. because, this game will not be worth a candle her presidency is not worth anything. if these things keep popping up and they don't have an adequate defense. >> i think there will be more coming up, the problem is harvard corporation, appointed her. and they don't' to be ap

embarrasses or accused of having made a mistake there was ad if article in "wall street journal" saying why harvard will not fire gay and it is partly the dei, and it partly fact that the board, which is a dei board, it say board which condition 70s of people -- consists of people who support diversity, equity and inclusion, it against diversity and equality and including of jews and asians this is a simo symptom of a deeper problem. larry: professor, alan dershowitz happy new year thank you for helping the show. >> always happy to help. larry: i'll be right back with the last word. a holiday word, as always.

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