larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow, i'm lar ry kudlow. all right iowa caucuses kickoff republican presidential race tonight. there are issues outside of iowa too. for example speaker mike johnson has trashed the white house so-called i'm immigration plan, and hunter biden may be subpoenaed and houthis keep bombing american assets and hitting an american flagship and biden administration does nothing about it we'll welcome congressman byron donalds in wins, kellyanne conway then rick perry, who is bawling like a baby or john kerry's resignation as climate czar. but first, it want to invite you to a very interesting piece in "new york times."

out last week. i saw it this weekend. it is called the case for trump, by someone who wants him to lose. written by bret stephens, i know well, a former "wall street journal" editorialist, a conservative. and also a never-trumper. so it sip resting. bret opens by saying, too many people fail to think deeply about the up during sources of donald trump's appeal. then bret goes on to outline three of mr. trump's most important and effective issues, you heard of me say them before. this is from bret stephens in "new york times," first close the border, stop illegal immigration as trump did. second, restore middle close affordability and prosperity with rising real wages. as mr. trump did in his first term. and third, make another stab

at draining the swamp to right the wrongs of the center for disease control, fbi and cia and justice system and so forth. mr. steven said that americans have reason to remember the trump years as good ones. unemployment fell to 50 year lows, stocks boomed and inflation and interest rates were low, and he gives trump a lot of credit for a strong foreign policy and asks, dwu the wo-- does the world feel safer under biden, how the attacks on shipping -- houthi attacks on shipping, chinese open thread to invade taiwan than it did y unde under trump. the answer is no. with that in his fair-minded

column, bret stephens should not be a never-trumper but i won't convince him not today, i will argue these important issues are why mr. trump is so far ahead in republican primary polling including tonight's iowa caucus. grow the economy. close the border, drain the swamp. stand up to our enemies in the world. 45 president did so much of it in his first term, he has so much experience now to take on the rest of it in a second term, no one has messaged it better than he has, the other night in fox town hall he showed presidential temperament and skillfully launched what likely to be another major turning point with this. >> i'm not going to have time for retribution, we'll make the country so successful again, i'm not have time for retribution, remember this, our ultimate

retribution is success. larry: that was a winner. what me says, is success is the best revenge. tonight iowa caucus vote likely to launch one of the greatest comebacks in american political history. that is my view, that is my riff. now, let's move along talk about life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, we bring in florida congressman byron donalds, who is live from fort dodge, iowa, you are indoors. that is good. you are out there in iowa, for a couple other things to talk to but. let's begin with what speaker mike johnson said, absolutely no to the very weak border deal struck i guess bi, struck by lang ford and schumer and i am not sure, speaker johnson

said that the house will never go along with it you are a key player in, that i know you are in iowa, talk to us about what you can tell us about stopping a bad deal on the border, please. >> first, larry, good to be with you, second that deal that was negotiated in senate is terrible. it is awful. the first thing they negotiated that you could have 5,000 entrances per day on the southern border that is under half of what joe biden is doing right now, that is a gid thing? -- that is a good thing? we should limit all, into country to stake stock of people who are here then go forward, they justment to cut the number in -- just want to cut the number in half and say they did something good, it makes no sense, th they want to add new work permits and green cards for the people in this country with biden

administration's open border policy, this would set precedents. you have a weak president, and if you hang around for a year or 2 you will get a work card and visas speaker johnson is right. ifit is dead on arrival in the house. larry: mike johnson keeps defending hr 2. which is a pretty good piece of legislation. you know by pron, he talks about mr. johnson that is, talks about building the wall, remain in mexico, title 42, catch and deport. that is the why it should be framed much these phony piecemeal little of this and lit of that, you are right giving work permits to illegals. i hope it is possible politically for you all to hold the line on this terrible deal. >> well, i'll tell you, what is politically feasible for

house republicans right now is that tell joe biden a very simple message, number one, don't talk to us about ukraine funding without securing the border. number two, really don't talk to us about government funding without secures this border, number one job of federal government, something that trump did phenomenally, the number one job is secure this nation, that is the job of the federal government, they are failing at that job, not just at southern border but also on the world stage. joe biden is failing. if you are dealing with a company that is failing, larry, you are a m smart business mind, why would you give it more money, you tell it to clean up its operations before they come back got piggy bank. until then, you don't deserve more money. larry: i agree, this is a big factor in iowa it will be all republican primaries, and also in the general.

byron, one more before we talk iowa. spoiled, rich kid above the law, hunter biden, looks like he and his lawyers caved in and will be deposed at risk of a you know with a new house s soupina of some kind, will hunter biden come in? >> i will believe it when i see it, he is a spoiled rich kid, if his last name was not biden, she would be thrown in jail a long time ago. secondarily, he would have never had access to anyone to get this kind of money, only reason he had access because his daddy was then vice president, long time senator in politics now president, this will consider, it should, -- consoccur. we will depose him.

like so many things in washington d.c., i'll believe it when i see it, i have to sees devil in details before i make any further comments. >> you are right, by pron, byron, how does this look in iowa. you are a big trump supporters? >> lookings great. we have an opportunity too really break that all-time iowa record in a contested caucus season, but it is bigger. you see people of america want donald trump back, not just fort dodge but through the country, he has continue this job, he -- done this job, he did it well. don't be a never-trumper, you made the pace in your article, bring donald trump back to gets america on track. and we could talk about everything else after, that it will be a big night for the president. which will be not just a long night but the end of

campaign for three other people. larry: you know, byron, you are so good, such a great communicator, maybe we should go together, have a cup of coffee with bret stephens, i have known for years, and he is a very smart guy. as evidenced by that find column, he talks about stuff in that column that we've been talking about for a couple years. well trump is why qualified. i want to apologize, at beginning, i should have wished you a happy new year, youers best of the best thank you. >> thank you. happy new year to you my friend. larry: th stay swarm warm. >> am on kudlow. joe biden took the houthis off don te donald trump terrorist list, but now biden says me was wrong, but now they are attacking

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response. >> we'll make sure we will respond to the houthis. reporter: many republicans say the response was too late, it did not hit enough of the houthi infrastructure to send a big enough message, senator joni ernst on armed service committee adding this president is projecting weakness. >> i'm confused by this president. he really needs to stand up gain iran, against china, against russia, north korea. look at our adversaries they look at us, they see very little direction from the white house. reporter: already all of shipping companies that have said they will avoid red sea, they will continue to avoid the red sea, taking the longer trip with the goods, operation prosperity guardian not moving the needle there. larry: all right, edward thank you. >> grade pleasure, more on this. and others great laura ingraham. it is always wonderful to have youo.

>> good to be on. larry: is joe biden afraid of houthis,? afraid of iran, i know that. or what is he doing? >> i think we can safely conclude, larry, that after what we saw last week in pennsylvania with president biden sadly kind of meandering through the school and giving a speech that was really disturbing to watch as an american, because he is in such decline. the idea that joe biden is making any significant decisions is just ludicrous. he is not making the decisions, lloyd austin just out of the hospital, but nobody checked on him for 5 days, so, he is not making the decisions either. so i think that the re apt question is, who actually making tough national security calls for the u.s.? who is it? is it ned price?

i think it is john kirby? is it karine jean-pierre, i'm taking about counsel on this, we don't seem to have a cogg cognisant commander in chief. larry: who is calling the shots, i agree. the other thing is in taiwan, the good guys won, pro-democracy group, william, one that is good, joe biden comes out with statement that says we're not in favor the taiwan independence, really, what? >> that is his reflective response. joe biden has been doing everything in his power over the last 40 or 50 years to help china become stronger and more prosperous. the ccp, they love biden, he has kept trum trump

tariffs in place for some, tent, there is a reason that most of billionairesy on the left are -- they want biden is because they want to keep this china gravy train going, taiwan said, wait, we believe here a country. we want to be or own independent country. and for america to come out on heels of this say, no, you don't that was telling, antony blinken had to clean that up, but jobe's instinct is over in to be tough on china as he is and random conservative in the house of representatives. >> right, or pro life catholic church. >> h he would throw the book at them but not president xi in china. larry: or parents that want to go to their kid's pay the -- pta meeting. so, what is doing out there in iowa, seems that drain

the swamp is a big issue, and the border is a big issue. and the affordability crises is a big issue. also, laura, i think trump is dialed into the evangelical community, a lot more than people seem continued to. >> for sure. >> are there and i am sheer. what do you think? >> i think this is my 7th iowa caucuses experience. it is always fun, you learn something about the country. but, i think chaos as far as eye can see is what regular work a day people are observing in united states had. their pr grocery bills, 100 bucks spent in january of 2019, costs -- we're seeing in ukraine, we work to defend their border that is going south or at a stalemate, immigration is a

disaster, most americansen to want it but it looks that establishment is trying to force a deal. so, i think people see it is chaos, and i guess maybe they see that trump is walked through this fire, he is still standing, not a lot of people could probably do that. i know larry, you could. you could walk through the fire. we would know you could handle it but most people couldn't. we'll see who comes in number 2. if trump gets close to 50 that would be off the charts. larry: we have been pal fairs long time. when i working for trump he showed mead tough, he also showed me calm. you know make decisions. i think the same character traits are come dpleug in his campaign, he is running an issues campaign but he is calm, right there throwing the book at them, put him in jail for 700 years and business that, and he comes

out, with a terrific town hall, fox town hall performance. last wednesday night or whenever. >> he is very calm. very calm in that, he seemed so confident, his not seen him that way on c camera in quite a while, i thought that was an inflection point. larry: i said the same thing, i called it a turning point. >> this is why we're friends. larry: i called it a turning point. inflectionstion point you are sporter than i am. -- smarter than i'm, that is paying off. you know, i think people see that in the course of other thing is success is the pest revenge. -- best revenge. in 2016 he didn't go after

hillary clinton or peter strzok and his girlfriend or comey. he didn't take -- there was no revenge, he was just trying to do a good job, he by and large did a good job. >> you are right, i think the same message, he still talks about some of the person nalties but that -- personality but that message that washington is deceiving you and failing you, the people they feel it they feel it in their bones, there is no messaging this away if you are the white house, leadership missing in action, i think that trump said, trying to say help is on the way, we'll see who comes in number two. larry: you got it, so good laura ingraham thank you so much, take care. >> good to see you. larry: stay warm. >> i will. larry: you can watch laurao ingrammagi think laura ingraham angle, coming up former president trump says, success is the best

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larry: as we said, former president trump said success is best revenge. joining us now kellyanne conway. the great kellyanne conway, former counselor to president trump. fox news contributor. you know kellyanne, we were talking about with laura ingraham, i don't to be repeat, but h his performance the other night was great and great temperament. made key points. and laid out that success is best revenge, there will be no retribution, there will be no time for it. he will be succeeding so much that is his first term.

>> there in lies is the greatest strength of his candidacy in 2024, including here in iowa. he is expected to dominate caucus returns, he has already returned. you can go with people have made promises about what they may do or go with a guy who did it, americans, beginning in iowa are saying i'm not taking a chance, with someone albeit good people, find leaders, and i will go with someone who has done it once, i think he will do it better. he knows how to -- he has a 10 point plan on his web site as we speak. that talks about dismantles the deep state, does not say drains the swamp, it is specific about reforming the fisa courts and making sure that innocent americans are not censored and spied on

and shadow banded this is trump outsider and insider. overlaid with record of an incumbent this the best combination, almost impossible as polls suggest for the primary opponents to over take him. much for that reason. larry: you know, interesting kellyanne, you are right about 10-point plan, part will be budget impounding and will be reforming civil service, long over due. which will include the fbi, and cia. he is on it you are right. he is on it. but, i keep listening to hosts and anchors and reporters talk about the momentum. de dedesantis has it or haley has it i have an out thought, person with momentum is donald trump. who started this year in a totally different space with

respect to polling, i know polls are not votes. he is the guy with moment up, including iowa, picked up about 15 points in last few months, and if tonight works out, close to the polls, it will be the beginning of one of biggest political c comebacks in american history, that is what i think. >> probably. absolutely, probably ever. i think that media wants story, they want to be able to cover a story, they don't want story one donald trump unless it means me is being indicted or worse, if you are mainstream media how many times can donald trump prove you wrong and i'm ber as you, they -- embarrass you, they got it wrong in 2016, then had self reflection for not long but confident went back on him. he was inaugurated and

within the hour a article was written that impeachment begins, they have made him stronger and bigger and bolder, and "new york times" had a remarkable article how college educated americans 11e learned to fall back in love with donald trump, a ryan the reason they are going back to trump to couple with noncollege educated republicans, that are part of his base is because of the pr prosecutions, some to read, "new york times" charts trump's rise with the indictments, i told the former president, if in your life you will be indpieted indicted or not, you always choose door number 2, we know, that it has helped him politically people see is as trying to interfere in the next election and had they started with

prosecutions, only time they picked on donald trump maybe they would have a point. but larry it like up teenth time they try impeachment and disi indictments and collusions that never materialize and nonsense stuff like golden showers and the like, he does not need this job, he wants to job. larry: what about bret stephens. >> after joe biden -- yes. for sure i saw it. larry: i hate trump but, he wrote three thousand words on why trump has depu done so many good things, including going after the swamp, and going after institutions and border closing the border, and including strong economy. helping middle class people, you know bret stephens, i know him from "wall street journal" editorial page, he goes to "new york times" and a never-trumper but it was a tremendous -- wr i don't know maybe new york times

have come to their senses. >> they are hedging their bets, they read their own polls, president trump beats biden in the swim states, i think -- swing states. i think they also don't want to be caught flat footed this time. last 51, a best thing that happened to president trump is joe biden, that contrast in moving forward between outsider versus the swamp, could not be more stark, and joe biden earned every bit of his 33% approval rating, all-time low. >> kellyanne conway the best of the best stay warm. >> thank you. larry: moving along. kind of a noniowa story. fani willis, fulton county d.a. is calling hero manic corruption allegations, hang on, racist. on moon martin luther king day. jonathan is live from details from at at. >> fani willis in her speech

at church neither confirmed or denied she was involved in some sort of a romantic affair but she did say that nathan wade is one of three attorney friends that she hired to serve as special prosecutors in or case gain former president trump. -- against former president trump. peaspeaking at service in atlanta's big bethel ame church, saying that h qualifications of facing scrutiny because he is the only black prosecutor on the team. >> i paid them all the same hourly rate, they only attacked one. reporter: critics point out the other 24 two are not accused of having a romantic relationship with the d.a., she authorized over 650 thousand in legal fees to

way who took her on -- wade who took her on cruises and other leisure trial. roman's attorney, issued this statement: this has nothing to do with the color of his skin, fulton co da office said it will response to defense motion filed gains fani willis and prosecuter wade last week. they have j yet to submit 2. larry: thank you jonathan

serri . on martin luther king day, highe taught us. joining us here on set, a lot of company hogan gidly, former white house press secretary now vice chair. jason chaffetz. former utah congressman, chair of oversight committee and fox news contributor. author of "the puppeteers," jason, you know, it wouldn't have been fun if she at any time call the race card, nothing to do with corruption or paying him 650 grand and going on vacation. spending the time in white house. a lot of time in white house. both of them. gets coached by biden people, on how to throw donald trump in jail for 700 years. >> you put this in a novel, no one would believe it all that impossible. the guy has never prosecuted a case like this, he is paid over 600 thousand?

this is just really unbelievable. larry: for a glass of wine in napa valley, a couple road trips and fun in the sun, hogan gidly you like to have fun in the sun. >> but what is -- >> to you know fan. >fani willis. >> what is it two people having a sexual relationship that decides to go after trump t together, this is lisa m page and peter strzok 2.0. people behind the scenes, it blows my mind. larry: jason, as former chair of oversights committee, it looks like to me and others this legal attack, law fair now, against trump, throw him in jail for 750 years or whatever. is being run out of the white house. as former over site chair, what do you think about that.

>> i don't think that much happens without white house being involved or engaged if luke at how they structure spokespeople to defend president and hunter biden, to say, the art deals, oh, there is a law that has been set up, there are ethics requirements put in place, only to have someone to come in testify, what are you talking about, we never talked to white house, there has to be some degree, not just one intern making this up. this is a concerted effort, you hear this story that you know that hunter biden was perhaps coached by his dad. president of usa about not showing up and complying with his subpoena that just begs the question where does that wall end or start. larry: they talk well letitia james, crazy attorney general in new york who is bri bringing the phony suit against former president trump's

businesses, she is spending hours in white house, fani willis spent a lot of time in white house talking with kamala harris, that is a low return conversation, but she was fingered. her boyfriend, pros kiter, the nonprosecutor, he spend a lets of time in white house too. hoagie, i will play sound, expi speaking of someone with untruth, this is what governor sununu said on fox news. >> we supported president in 16, and 20, it, it not pan out, he will not be able to get anything done, inflation picked and border secure and draining swamp it is possible. but clearly not with trump, he couldn't do it the first time we wouldn't be able do it second time. larry: hoagie, i will say, i know sununu. a good guy, a smart guy, nonetheless, he just ripped off a series of total

untruths. i am sorry, inflation, you cannot -- that piss me off, excuse me by english, healthcare reforming, under trump we were there in 6 months he developed a covid vaccine that probably saved a kim m couple million lives in 6 months, people said it would take 5 to 10 years, there was no inflation and working class families had a har harvest of real wage increases how does a guy tb like sununu just lie. >> we had rational sane southern border policy, we were energy dominant and we did not have wars all over the world, and economy that benefited average american for first time in decade, and wage increases to say that is so overtly ridiculous. because it is so easily disproven. he will to it again, as

kellyanne said, he is a brilliant business person, but now he knows how to look around the corner and see what deep state does, he will not let it happen again. larry: i have to get out,ure right. you are right, john sununu shape up, we're holding you accountable, i like him, i ddare say he is a good governor, but you just can't start lying that is the against the law. run jason run. coming up on kudlow. if you seen a grown man cry over the resignation of clclimate czar john kerr. rick perry -- a grown man crying, where is john john kerry now. kudlow. what do you mean? these straps are mind-blowing!

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larry: so the faa is latest to make radical diversity push that is leads to unsafe sky, hillary vaughn at the capitol. >> that coming under microscope, faa missed the

737 max midair blowout, that is causing questions for people to say, how did they miss this. now people are looking at their hering practices, particularly their dei. the faa has made clear they want to include people with different abilities but also people with intellectual and psychiatric challenges that is giving some people pause, faa writes this: >> agent says that for some people managers can hire on the spot. if they have proper ke docu documenttation, faa is saying in a statement defending their hiring

procedures: >> now faa said they are doing an immediate audit of boeing's product production and manufacturing, today, boeing announced they will i'm implement safety checks for there are 737 max. >> one there are thing, not only does it sound like unsafe skies but boeing had a very active pervasive dei program. they were -- they are the ones that have the accidents. which is terrible story. hillary vaughn thank you. >> thank you. larry: we'll switch gears. hold your tears, john kerry is resigning, you want to see a grown man cry there is rick perry, former energy secretary, great american and patriot, former texas governor, i'm kidding rick, i know you are not crying.

john kerry jumps down, almost same day biden administration announces a new gas tax, a methane tax that would stop oil and gas drilling, and they are also, i am reading they won't per permit new lng projections, that is just as nutty as can be, this is john kerryism. >> well, you had on your early segment talking about that we were energy independent and dominant during the trump years, we're headed back in that direction, i know that is what president trump will put on the agenda as i think one of the number one is get back to producing american energy. here is why it is important, and why this issue of the climate john kerry leaving.

the here is what so interesting about this. the biden administration very concerned about the young people that they are losing and trying to get them back to board, he is sending john kerry out to be the spokesperson for that, when he does that, he will be sends a message to ohio. to pennsylvania, to new mexico. to the other states that biden has to have, we don't want to see you states doing very good, putting people to work in oil and gas industry, we'll put a big burden on you, this is not going to work out, that is the problem, that is the unfix able part of this whole climate catastrophe we're seeing. out of former senator john

kerry. larry: i wish we had more time, we'll come back, you are right. he did a lot of harm. r clients' best interest. (fisher investments) so we don't sell any commission-based products. (other money manager) then how do you make money? (fisher investments) we have a simple management fee, structured so we do better when our clients do better. (other money manager) your clients really come first then, huh? (fisher investments) yes. we make them a top priority, by getting to know their finances, family, health, lifestyle and more. (other money manager) wow, maybe we are different. (fisher investments) at fisher investments, we're clearly different.

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