larry: you know, i'll just say it with steve garvey, this lying adam schiff, the russian hoax that he tried to pin on donald trump, that never existed, ever, and schiff kept lightening about

that. he should never be in the senate. i'm a yankee fan, garvey's a dodger, i'm for steve forward i have and the dodgers just this once, and everybody's always for liz macdonald. elizabeth: thank you, march true. i love --ing steve garvey, i love the yankees, you're right. larry, love that, love the show, it's terrific. we've got news coming in. let's bring in congressman anthony des to see toe. congressman, sit tight about the mayorkas impeachment hearing today. hunter biden will sit for a deposition february 28th, your reaction? >> hopefully, he doesn't make a spectacle out of it again like he did last time. elizabeth: so he is going to talk to congress. that news coming in. that is for the president's impeachment inquiry. let's turn to the mayorkas impeachment inquiry. the biden border crisis has been hammering the president's polls. you were in today's impeachment hearing. dhs secretary mayorkas, a no-show. it featured victims, victim

families killed in the border crisis. how come mayorkas did not appear in. >> is he apparently told the committee he was too busy speaking to mention pecan officials. we had two moms, one whose daughter was raped and killed at the hand of an ms-13 gang member who crossed our southern border, and the other whose daughter actually it was the her birthday today, she was killed from fentanyl that had come over our southern border. they both traveled, one from as as far as a arizona, because they wanted to look secretary mayorkas in the face and see what he had to say. but wednesday again, he was too busy. as i said earlier today, it seems america comes second to secretary mayorkas. elizabeth: congressman, the moral clarity here is really striking on the victims' families. again, this isn't about racism, it's not about immigration. this is about crime. this is about the president ending every trump policy that secured the border. again, let's get your -- that's where we're covering.

let's get your reaction to what you just pointed out, this heartbreaking testimony. first you're going to hear from damn -- tammy nobles, her 20-year-old daughter, kay a la hamilton, sexuallily assaulted and murdered in maryland in 2022 agod allegedly by a then 16-year-old gang member. kayla hamilton had been diagnosed with awe atism. you're also going to hear from angel mom josephine dunn. her 26-year-old daughter died of fentanyl poisoning in may 2021. you're going to hear them and then you're going to hear senator chuck schumer setting that aside and say, democrats, we're not going to back border security. we want funding for ukraine. watch this. >> if we had strict ther border policies, my daughter would still be aa live today. nothing will bring my daughter back, nor fix the pain of not willing her here. i don't want to this prevent from happening to someone else's child. this is about protecting everyone in the united states. >> in my humble opinion,

mr. mayorkas' border policy is partially responsible for my daughter's death. his wide open border policy allows massive quantities of poisonous fentanyl into our country. secretary mayorkas' leadership, or lack thereof, fentanyl is an invasion. the weapon of mass destruction has caused unimaginable numbers of deaths, unmeasurable damage to our country's families, including my own. >> we said we have to do both. there were a couple of people in the room who said let's do board or first. we said we have to do both together. elizabeth: are democrats listening to the pain of these victims' families? >> they're not listening to anything. i mean, it was clear today while one of the mothers was giving her opening statement talking about the brutality and the murder of her daughter, representative goldman was too busy texting on his phone to even look the mother in the

eyes. we are living in what seems to be an upside down world. today there was times i had to pinch myself to see if we were living reality and some of the comments of the democrats. and schumer, you know, we have to do both? no, we need to secure our border. people are dying crimes are being committed, and we are leaving american lives at stake, and it needs to change immediately. elizabeth: thousands of american lives. listen, people are for legal immigration. we're an open arms society, but we have 14, 14 house democrats, they just backed a resolution condemning the president's open borders policy. as a national security and public safety crisis. let's go through the numbers. sit tight for a second. last fiscal year i.c.e. arrested nearly 74,000 criminal illegal aliens. more than 1700 for homicide crimes. 1600 for kidnapping. 3400 suspected gang members like ms-13, more than 33,000 charges or convictions for assault and 7500 criminal illegal aliens for

weapons offenses. so how can the democrats just set all that aside so american taxpayers are supposed to suffer because of what they think their ideology and they think is good for america? >> well, it's not good for america, it's not good for anyone here. what's crazy about it, some of the people that a want to come here want the american dream. like you you mentioned, people are for legal immigration. i am for legal immigration. but come through the front door. throwing money at the border to just bring more people across our border and not process them correctly is not the answer. crimes are being mitted, and this is not -- committed, and this is not a political issue. it's not a democrat or republican issue, it's the an american issue. but right now the republicans are on the right side of this issue, and we are fighting each and every day to secure our border and make this country safer. elizabeth: congressman, thank you so much for joining us. it's good to see you. let's bring in former acting i.c.e. director tom homan and national border patrol council president brandon judd. this story first -- gentlemen,

thanks for joining us. tom, first to you, what do you make of the biden white house admitting in a supreme court filing they were wrong to blame and smear texas for the drowning deaths of three illegal aliens last friday? they drowned way before anyone in the u.s. knew, even texas. what do you think? >> look, this is an attack on governor abbott. let's be clear, governor abbott's done more to secure that border than anybody in the administration. and every illegal alien they arrest they fingerprint, they vet. and so it's one less gotaway. every ounce of fentanyl that the troopers seize, the dps troopers seize, it's less deaths in the united states. governor abbott's not only protecting texas, he's protecting the entire nation because with fentanyl is making it into every town, city and state in the country. this was an attack on governor abbott with, a false attack, and they need to be held accountable was governor abbott is doing his job to protect this country. elizabeth: to what tom said, brandon, what do you think the

white house smearing texas, falsely blaming texas for these deaths? >> they knew that they were going to get away with it. they knew the mainstream media was going to cover what they said rather than listen to what all of the experts were saying. i was on the phone with governor abbott the night that this happened, and we both knew that these drownings took place well before the border patrol was notified, well before texas national guard was notified. everybody knew that, but the mainstream media wasn't willing to cover it. and the reason is because they know that by covering biden's lies, it becomes the truth. as long as the more than people don't understand what's going ot understand what's going on, what they hear from the administration becomes the truth even though it's lies. elizabeth: yeah. so they drowned an hour before texas and border patrol were alerted. texas governor abbott says the fact is the deaths are because of the president's open border policies. word is the administration is now suggesting they may have been able to spot the illegal immigrants if they had access in the area.

again, texas seized control of that area. brandon, you're shaking your head. why? >> no, because we don't have those resources in that particular area. we know what resources are deployed there, and we don't have boats at night, so we wouldn't have detected it that way. we don't deploy certain cameras over there at that a time because we know that there's no purpose for doing it because these people aren't trying to get away. we deploy mobile cameras in areas where people are trying to evade apprehension. we don't have them in that particular area. so for the government to say that, again, it's a false narrative. they're trying to misdirect, they're trying to lead the american people down down the wrong road because they know that as a long as they're misinformed, they're not going to vote them out at the ballot booth. and that's what this administration's trying to do. they're trying to maintain power by not allowing the american people to make an informed decision based upon all of the facts. elizabeth: got it. fox news' jacqui heinrich pressed the white house press secretary on this. watch this. >> reporter: will the

administration then amend its separate statement that implied that texas officials were responsible for the deaths of three migrants when, in fact, they had nothing to do with it, they had already been dead for an hour by the time mexico told anyone in the u.s. about it, and the administration admitted as much in their court filing? the statement from the white house implies that texas was responsible, and a number of outlets were forced to issue corrections and editors' notes because of that white house statement. so will the white house amend that statement? >> so let's be sensitive here. three people died. three migrants died. why are you repeating this false claim that republicans voted to reduce the number of border patrol agents even though "the washington post" gave the administration three pinocchios for that? >> so we don't believe it's a false claim. our statements were very direct here last year. the house gop voted and not only did they vote for it, but they tout it. they touted their limit, save,

grow act. >> [inaudible] that it would never affect -- elizabeth: she was saying it's not going to affect border patrol. tom you're welcome reaction to the white house statements here. >> it doesn't surprise me. they've been lying from day one. let me emphasize what brandon just said. over 1700 illegal aliens have said on u.s. soil since joe biden's been president. historic number. nothing even close. 1,700 people have died crossing this border because of the open borders. we have the record number of sex trafficking of women and children under joe biden. we've got a record number of americans dead from fentanyl, 112,000. this is all under joe biden's watch. this is his responsibility. blood is on his hands. when you open the border and tell the whole world you can come to the country, you turn yourselves in to border e patrol, we'll release you as quick as we can, we'll fly you to the city of your choice, you'll get work authorization and we'll put you in a hotel

room at $500 a night, give you three meals a day and free medical care, who the hell wouldn't come? the most vulnerable people in the world are putting themselves in the hands of criminal cartels to come to the greatest nation on earth. this is on them. elizabeth: brandon judd, final word. >> yeah. when you look at the number of deaths in that specific area, just that area, 546 deaths in 3 years compared to donald trump's 110 deaths. yet the administration's going to seize on these 3 deaths because they thought they would be able to pin it on texas. where are, where are the outcry of the 546 deaths in that area alone? it's disgusting. that they constantly try to scapegoat the wrong people rather than changing their own policies that will save lives. elizabeth: tom homan, brandon judd, thank you for your service the america. we appreciate you. still ahead, congressman greg steube, katie cherkasky, the heritage foundation's kara frederick and radio host jason rantz. the president's student loan

bailout is backfiring bigtime. students now boycotting paying back. and a judge sets a court date for the corruption accusations against fulton county d.a. fani willis hiring her boyfriend on the trump 20 2020 prosecution. allegations are hay both financially benefit. and gop lawmakers slam the white house for its, quote, slap on the wrist terror designation for the houthis. it's weaker than realized. plus the davos world economic forum buzzing, new revelations about the dangers of a.i., artificial intelligence. and steve forbes is here. president biden again campaigning on bide mom you cans, but he did not use that term today. top democrats warn it's not working with voters. also jpmorgan chase ceo jamie dimon says former president trump was right on the economy, china, nato and more. it's all coming up on "the evening edit." >> the greatest expression of

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elizabeth: president biden campaigning in north carolina today. he did not use the term bidenomics. now top democrats already warned him that's not working with voters. their real wages are down about 3% after inflation on his watch. you know, one estimate says it's 8%. now, former president trump won north carolina in both 2016 and 2020. edward lawrence is at the white house with the latest. edward. >> reporter: well, liz,president joe biden did not use the term bidenomics on the ground in north carolinaed today. so the white house press secretary did use it yessed, but the president himself -- yesterday, but the president himself has a not said the word for about four weeks. this might be a slow phaseout of the term because it's not resonating. now, in north carolina the president highlighted the am of tax money his administration is spending in the state, $3 billion from the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the american rescue plan, to help companies in north carolina build the plants that make fiber

optic cables to connect schools to high-speed internet as well as libraries and health care facilities. the president even trying to compare himself to franklin roosevelt. >> just like franklin roosevelt did a generation ago with electricity, i promised to be a president for all america whether you voted for me or not. these investments help all americans in red states and blue states as well. we're not leaving anybody behind. >> reporter: the problem is americans are not buying it. an ark bc news/ipsos poll shows only 31% of americans approve of the president's handling on the economy. 56% disapproval if. even the black withstone ceo telling "mornings with maria" there could be a recession or to slowdown because of the way the economy works. >> we have some parts of the economy that are doing quite well and will probably stay up decently, and then we have the intrasensitive parts that are really going to go down. >> reporter: the president and his cabinet if members out trying to remind the public how

much tax money the administration is spending in various states. it seems though that money's spread around key election states. liz? elizabeth: well, of course. edward lawrence, thank you. so. great reporting, as always. let's welcome steve forbes. steve, it's good to see you. your reaction to that report, the president comparing himself to fdr? [laughter] >> well, he's a desperate man, so i'm surprised he hasn't compared himself to lincoln or to jesus is or anything else that he thinks might help his campaign. he obviously can't run on the economy overall. as you pointed out, real living standards have fallen since he's taken office. moreover, there's serious headwinds coming pointed out by jamie dimon and steve schwarzman and others in terms of higher interest rates working their way through the economy. some sectors are going to do okay, others are not. and people have no faith that this president knows what he's doing on the economy and is putting in policies that'll enable them to have a better future. they have no faith in him. elizabeth: yeah. 5 million jobs created on his

watch, not 14 million. trump on his watch, 9 million if jobs. government overspending driving inflation higher. the chicago fed researchers, san francisco fed researchers said that. so when this overspending and inflation, then you have to raise interest rates. that causes mortgage rates to go up and housing becomes less affordable. what do you make of wall street pro david rosenberg saying fed data shows a majority of federal reserve districts, 7 out of 12, are either in recession or stagnation? >> well, that gets to the fact that the economy is facing a serious problem. no matter how the administration if tries to spin it. so it's not all even in america. a lot of it is still suffering, and people, again, even if they're moving ahead, have very real concerns about the future with this president. and the fact of the matter is in terms of government spending, only in washington would they think that taking money from people and then spending it instead of the people spending it somehow helps the economy. s

it doesn't. if let people -- let people keep the resources they made, created. let ourselves -- others invest in those resources. this administration, i think, will be seen as one that really went against the grain of america. even franklin roosevelt in the late 1930s recognized the new deal wasn't delivering. elizabeth: yeah. jpmorgan ceo jamie dimon if says former president trump, that trump was right about the economy, right about china and nato. and reports are coming in that u.s. executives at the world economic forum in davos, they are not worried about a trump win. they're saying, you know, this whole thing that msnbc and other media are saying, oh, he's a threat, authoritarianism, fascism, they're saying, hello, we have a three-branch system of government, checks and balances. of watch president biden with another major tbaf in north carolina today saying he created just 440 jobs, and then you're going to hear from president trump. watch this. >> 440 new jobs in north

carolina alone just since i -- [cheers and applause] >> you get e a lot of people coming into our country that we're not going to want, we don't want. and we're going to have the largest deportation in the history of -- [cheers and applause] on day one i will sign a new executive order to cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, transgender insanity -- [applause] and any other inappropriate racial, sexual or political content onto our children. i will not give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate or a mask mandate. [cheers and applause] you won't have one penny. and who can believe i have to even say this, it's so ridiculous, i will keep men out of women's sports. we have more liquid gold and wealth under our feet than any other nation. we have more liquid gold, oil and gas, more liquid gold. well, i just met non-liquid gold. you know where it was?

iowa. it's called corn. elizabeth: what do you think, steve? some voters say they don't like the former president's rough and tumble rhetoric when he personally attacks people. they like his policies. what do you think can of him staying on policy here? >> if he stays on policy, he'll win. people want results even if they don't like the deliverer. they want results. trump delivered results in the first term and in terms of the economy, people want that again. and thcrats had better get used to the fact their current course is guaranteeing them a defeat in november. elizabeth: got it. steve forbes, thanks for joining us, my former boss. >> thank you. good to see you. elizabeth okay, this story coming up, the us white house again criticized on its foreign policy. did it just give a meaningless slap on the wrist to the houthis in yemen, designating the houthis in a weaker terrorist category? the listing is weaker than realized 689 -- realized? the houthis still attacking commercial ships in the red sea. we take it on with congressman greg steube next on "the the evening edit."

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elizabeth: okay, this news coming in, the biden white house with again criticized over its foreign policy. it talked tough claiming it put the iran-backed houthis back on the terror list for the houthi attacks on potential ships in the red sea, but there's a catch. fox news' gillian turner at the state department with the latest. gillian. >> reporter: u.s. state department has now slapped the houthis with a terrorist label once again, but critics say the move is not going to deter the houthis from continuing to attack u.s. forces across the middle east. just yesterday they hit a u.s. cargo ship in the gulf of aden. republicans claim that under the new biden policy, houthi terrorists will be able to apply for u.s. visas and actually come into the country. >> now even they won't even designate them a foreign terrorist organization because this lesser designation allows them concern i mean, the houthis can actually my grate to this country, which is absurd. >> reporter: when i asked the state department spokesman, matt mill per, whether houthis will

be able to potentially travel to the u.s. with visas, he appeared to not know saying he would need to check and get backtous. >> i don't think you should expect that any houthi operative is going to see that visa approved anytime in the near future, to say the least. >> reporter: president trump labeled the hoo thus a foreign -- houthis a foreign terrorist organization. president biden removed that three years ago but is now reversing course labeling them, quote, specially designated global terrorists. president biden himself had downplayed this issue just friday. >> it's irrelevant whether to designate -- we've put together a group of nations that are going to say if they continue to act and behave as they do, we'll respond. >> reporter: well, today the pentagon fired back against two anti-ship missiles run by houthis in the middle east. liz? elizabeth: gillian turner, terrific reporting from you, as always. joining us now from house ways and means, congressman greg steube. congressman, it's good to see you again.

happy new year. your reaction to that report. is this the just a slap on the wrist? >> ye, it is. and what's crazy is the trump administration had them designated as a foreign author organization, and the biden administration removed them. and the houthis have been attacking all a sorts of people in the red sea, and they still aren't moving so far as to label them as an fto. and it's interesting, the state county's response is -- state department's, oh, they just have to come to the southern border where 10 million illegal immigrants have entered into our country, almost 2200 designated terrorists on the terror watch list. -- 200. you have an administration that's soft on terrorism, and you're seeing the results of that. attacks on cargo ships in the red sea, and they're being emboldened because they're going to continue to behave this way unless we act strongly. elizabeth: so your point is well taken that we have a border collapse in the middle of heightened mideast tensions amid

a war in ukraine with russia. are you worried that mid if east tensions are -- mideast tensions are escalating even more because pakistan the launched retaliatory airstrikes early morning in iran targeting terror hideouts that killed at least nine, pakistan bombing iran after iran bombed southwestern, the southwestern pakistani province of so like stand, who what are your colleagues saying about tensions increasing in the mud if east? >> we have weak leadership in this white house, and if the united states is not being the leader in the world, then other people are going to take our place. and you're going to see these type of attacks, and pakistan having to stand up and israel having to defend itself without us stepping in and helping them against a designated terrorist organization that this administration gave money to the palestinian authority, gave money and and allowed $6 billion to go to the iranians, and then we wonder why all of these munitions and all of these

terrorist attacks are happening all a around the middle east and around the world, because we're allowing it to happen. elizabeth: okay. so senator john kennedy would agree with you. senator john kennedy is calling for tougher action on iran. he says the president will not enforce tougher sanctions on iran. iran pulled in an estimated $100 billion in things like increased oil exports. so what is going on with the white house? why are they going weak on iran? >> yeah, i don't know why they're weak on the border, weak on iran, weak on terrorists instead of standing for the american people and the safety and security of the american people. they're standing for terrorists and iran and all these other regimes that wish us death and harm. they've released billions of dollars to the iranians, and the iranians then fund the houthis and fund hezbollah and fund a hamas, and we wonder why there's so much terror going on in the middle east and the attacks on israel, because the united states is not standing strong against terrorist organizations. elizabeth: got it. congressman greg steube, thanks for joining us. >> good to see you. elizabeth and joining us now,

the host of the hit show the jason rantz show, he is jason rantz. jason, it's good to see you again. in this news coming in, the president, he did his student loan bailout, but it's back with fighter. we're seeing reports, jason, potentially thousands of student loan borrowers protesting, refusing to pay back their tuition loans. their saying, well, you know, the president will probably forgive them anyway. what do you think? >> i mean, the truth is they -- i don't blame them for holding that position. they've been told this entire time that they are somehow owed this, that this is what they should expect, they were promised this. and so, of course, they're going to come to this, they're going to see biden's past actions. i mean, even after the supreme court declared what he did was unconstitutional, he moved forward with a different plan anyway. so if you're someone right now who's been promised that this is an inevitability and you know you're going into an election year where what is biden going to do? it is certainly not going to-him politically if he's going to

punish any of these -- we don't even punish e thieves, so we're definitely not going to punish anyone who's coming from a are important demographic for this president in the re-election. elizabeth: the president's being accused of being unconstitutional here. he circumvented both congress and the supreme court, continuing his student loan bailout watchdogs say this is an effort to get the youth vote. you know, this one survey of a thousand student loan borrowers, jason, something like 25% said they had not made any payments at all recently, 9% said they're intentionally not paying to pressure the government to cancel their debts. i mean, what would happen if people across the country just stopped making payments on their mortgages or i a toe loans? if would the -- auto e loans? would the biden white house bail them out too? >> of course not. remember, the talking point about how we have to get more irs agents to go after all those millionaires and billionaires who aren't paying their fair share. well, we've got a whole bunch of folks who went into a contract, they volunteered for a contract, they agreed to pay this money back, they're choosing not to.

now, around, let's also point something -- on the other hand, that 9% is an important part. they're entitled, we don't like what they're doing. but this also brings up thish slue of bidenomics. you've got joe biden out there today and will continue to cite bidenomics, the economy's really strong, everyone's doing better, everyone's making more must be. and yet you have all these people saying i can't really afford it right now, to pay back my student loans. that's why we were relying on you, joe, to give us what we are due. this, i think, politically, i think it's going to glow up -- blow up in his face. elizabeth: interesting. and it helps mostly the upper bracket students. not children who choose not to go to school or, you know, they want to work in a trade like be an electrician or plumber. jason rantz, thank you so much for joining us. you've got a great show. we appreciate you coming on. and coming up, legal eagle katie cherkasky, problems are mounting for t.a. fani willis -- d.a. fannie if willis. a judge sets a february court tate to look into corruption and

misconduct allegations against d.a. a fani willis for hiring her boyfriend as a top prosecutor on the trump 2020 case. but first, we've got to check in with dagen and sean. what have you got coming up next hour on "the bottom line"? sean thank you, e-mac. we have biden's broken border crushing taxpayers as well. mayra flores, former congresswoman, is here on that. as well as matt rosendale talking about the future of wind energy in cold weather. doesn't sound very good. dagen: and let's talk about ecoside. yeah, that's apparently a thing with the i elites over at daf so. like, criminal punishment for people when hurt the environment, you know? if like genocide. steve malloy on that plus rich lowry and batya ungar-sargon. oh, that power panel, we can'teh wait. top of the, hour. ♪ yep, tough day at work, nice cruise will sort you right out.

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least temporarily turns things upside down. the district attorney who was prosecuting trump and 4 others for election -- 14 others is now herself under investigation. and that evidentiary hearing will be looking at two things. first, whether there was an improper row plant you can relationship between the d.a. and one of her prosecutors, and also whether the two misused government funds. and if that learing is televises televised, it could potentially be a disaster for the district attorney. >> i think the haas thing she wants is for these witnesses to testify on the world stage about the salacious details of an alleged e extramarital affair. >> reporter: as for the prosecutor, nathan wade, many legal observers consider him a curious selection to run a complicated prosecution against the former president. he's a suburban attorney specializing in family law. he's made more than $600,000 from his efforts so far, and at least one defend attorney has

accused him of using some of that money to fund lavish vacations with willis. wade is also involved in a divorce and willis has been subpoenaed to appear in that as doer case. she's fighting -- divorce case. so far willis has neither confirmed nor denied any row plant you can relationship with wade with, but she has said he's a great friend and has said all the criticism of the two so far has been racially motivated. liz, back to you. elizabeth: steve harrigan, always great journalism from you. you're terrific. thank you, steve. >> reporter: thank you. elizabeth: let's welcome in former prosecutor kate katie cherkasky. what's your reaction to this case? >> well, liz, as defense attorneys we always say that at least at least 2 -- there's at least 200 ways from thes to mess up a case, but this may be a new one. so, quite frankly, allegations of prosecutorial misconduct are taken very seriously by judges. in case, it goes beyond just an allegation that they had an

improper relationship because in many cases prosecutors on the same side of a case may be able to be in a row plant ific relationship. but it's about the appointment of the special prosecutor which seems to have been erroneous if not ever completed at all and not to mention the misuse of public funds which could equate to honest services fraud. certainly, there's a significant amount for the judge to look into here. elizabeth: what happens next? could a judge remove fani willis from the trump case? because when you look at what happened, she's accused of basically corruption. conflict of interest. d.a. a fani willis accused of giving her alleged boyfriend, nathan wade, a lucrative job, paying him nearly $700,000. they then used money to go on luxury vacations, the both of them. he was charging $100 an hour more than another prosecutor on the case even though he reportedly has no experience on' ecocases. he even charged for an entire 24-hour day.

really? he was working the case for 24 hours in one day? >> exactly. there's a lot of very concerning allegations here. obviously, the defense is going to have to put on evidence to establish that these are, in fact, true or that they have some evidence to support that. but certainly, because the relationship, the alleged relationship goes all the way back to the special purpose grand jury and to the indictments of all of the co-conspirators in that case, this could result in a a dismiss ifal of the casual a together. certainly, that's what the defendants are going to seek. now, the judge could also issue a different type of remedy, but i think because of the gravity of the allegations if they are established, it could very well end the case. elizabeth: all right. here's the nut of it, here's the big point. this case was brought about two years after the fact. there were points in this case legal experts say she had special grandkids, other things that expend if -- grand juries, other things that extended the length of the case and in turn charging taxpayers more. katie, a person hooking at this case might wonderer, did she

make those decisions to benefit herself and her romantic partner? legal expert jonathan turley e says many legal probes -- many have criticized trump for his personal attacks on d.a. fani willis, but turley says a rico racketeering case is overly broad, novel and controversial to begin with. the question is, did fani willis and nathan wade extend the length and depth of this already complex' ecoprosecution to overcharge and overbill taxpayers? that this is a prosecution that is a corrupt venue to begin with for then richment of willis and wade? what do you think? >> well, it certainly appears that way. now, prosecutors can take what time they need to investigate cases and to make charging decisions typically, but in retrospect, if these allegations are established, then certainly it calls into question the length of the prosecution and the impropry the -- propriety of it. it is novel, never before seen charges of this sort in this type of circumstance. so, absolutely, this is a very

significant and important hearing that could impact the cases altogether, not just the defendant who filed this notion. elizabeth: when you rook at the other prosecutors -- look at the other prosecutors on the case, katie, anna cross, she's really qualified. she's a former dekalb county assistant d.a.. she handle9 -- handled dozens of prosecutor cases. john floyd, widely considered to be the state expert on rico prosecutions, he reportedly helped draft the state law on it, reports are combined those two prosecutors billed $116,000. but wade is charging the state taxpayers nearly $700,000. you see the difference here? this is all going to come out in court, katie. your final word. >> the house of cards may very well be falling for fani willis, absolutely. there's so many questions that don't have any obvious answers, and they're not standard practices in the law. so i think this hearing is going to be very revealing. elizabeth: katie cher cherkasky, love your insights.

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elizabeth: joining us now former facebook analyst kara frederick, good to see you, what to you make of this story. the world economic forum in davos is talking about a.i., saying a.i. is going beyond what they expected when it comes to misinformation. >> funny when misinformation was the thing that made big tech companies the clown themselves to begin with. look at hunter biden laptop story. so, you know, i think they are starting from a inaccurate premise. there is a some truth, a.i.

will help increase, speed, scale and efficacy of things like propaganda, we know it is look at digital profiles and parse through the information and automate the cocustomization to individual users, we have to understand what true information is and big tech companies uses a.i. have not done that yet. elizabeth: let's watch a.i. in action. that was shown at davos about the power of a.i., this is all manufactured by a.i. >> authorities are investigating a break in at a new sem sy system

confabbingry in dresden. have fueled confusion, and threats of violence. viism that. >> interesting a.i. is going to taylor information to specific users, it will amplify messages with rise of generative a.i. you will have fake messages. making it more human like, i'm concerned about the combination of a hard hacking operation. with the generation of this fake information. combining those who cyber hacking with a.i. will be a big problem, we saw it at a lower level with sec, they are hacking their twitter accounts expect more at scale. but arm yourself with truth.

elizabeth: kara this headline out of davos that nations will no longer need to hold elections because voters can be replaced by artificial intelligence. this just sounds psychotic. what they are talking about. >> totally, you have to keep the human in humanity. you have to keep what we call in a.i. community, a human in the loop, human beeings have to be involved in decisions, the replacement and whatnot at some levels it does help harness the power of a.i., but the key word is human, we have to keep humanity in this or we're lost. elizabeth: how do you know what is true or not. >> you can fight fire with fire, you could have a.i. tools to detect and disrupt this information watermarking and labeling, that is a way to figure out the information and be more

transparent. but, you know jeanie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in, we have to sharpen ourselves as viewers and people to the information environment and the newness. elizabeth: you worried about 2024 election with a.i. and misinformation? >> of course. but it an election cycle, equip yourself with information, we could help by that transparency, making sure we know with information comes from and make our own decisions that is key, humans should make our own decisions. not big tech or technology. elizabeth: kara frederick thank you. >> with us tomorrow former home depot ceo bob nardelli, and c columnist liz peek, i am elizabeth macdonald thank you for watching the "evening edit" on fox business, now time to send it over to my buddies dagen