is it translating already to the bottom line? >> yes, already. i call it the copyright cop. the reason i mean that, they put out information, you put in an advertisement you will actually know if there is copyright infringement in terms of the stuff you pull up on a.i. liz: guess what is infringing on all-time record? dow jones industrials, gus. you got to witness it here. thanks for joining us. cue the fireworks, folks. the dow is closing at a record high, 38,039 points. that is a big move. i'm looking at microsoft and it too looks to close above the three trillion dollar market cap. [closing bell rings] tomorrow one of the best investment gurus in the business, bob doll of crossmark and we're continuing the discussion about boeing. former american airlines ceo bob crandall in a fox business exclusive. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. all right, the number one

political issue in both the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary was illegal immigration and the open border. probably will become the number one issue all across the country and now it appears that negotiations in the senate and white house have completely broken down. republican senators have overwhelmed leader mitch mcconnell who is finally throwing in the towel. so we have an all-star panel. tammy bruce, liz peek, caroline downey to talk about this and all other issues in the election campaign. later own we've got kevin hassett on new economic numbers. does joe biden really deserve bragging rights? first up let's go right to fox news peter doocy live at the white house with all the latest on the illegal immigration catastrophe at the southern border. peter, what can you tell us? >> reporter: we can tell you governor greg abbott down in texas thinks he has a the constitution on his side.

he wrote a long letter to lawmakers here. the constitution requires to protect the states on other side of u.s. border and people on the other side of u.s. border an abbott says president biden is not doing that. >> it is hard for me to tell what's going on. what is clear is that job jeep has, from the time he took office, actually during the time he was campaigning he had no intent to secure the border. he talked about open border policies during the campaign and he has allowed open border, with most americans not even knowing what that meant. >> reporter: in this letter abbott writes, the failure of the biden administration to impose the duty of article iv, section 1 as triggered article i, second 10, which reserves the to the state the self-defense. white house is uncertain on democratic calls for the biden to seize control of texas

national guard commanded by governor abbott. >> is the administration considering federalizing the texas national guard? >> we talked about this the other day. i don't have any decisions with respect to that to speak to for the president. i don't have anything on that. >> reporter: president biden talked for more than 20 minutes today in wisconsin. this never came up. it is apparently coming up less and less on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell was telling leaders behind closed doors, republican leaders behind closed doors the politics on this have changed. initially mcconnell was one of the senators pushing for a border deal tied to money for ukraine's fight against russia and israel's fight against hamas and gaza. now it seems like there is less and less of an appetite by republicans on capitol hill to do that all together. they are, there is a thought now that they should just be pushing for border money. everything else can wait or be done separately. larry? larry: peter the sound didn't

come through so much here for the john kirby quote. was that saying that the federal government could seize the texas national guard or stop the texas national guard? i kind of missed that point. >> reporter: question. somebody asked if the president was going to federalize the guard and kirby's answer, he didn't say no. he have said i don't have any decisions with respect to that and to speak for the president. he does not have anything on that. but they're down there, these texas national guard guys. their orders are to lay out razor wire to keep people out of the u.s. they're right next to these cpb officers whose orders are to cut the wire if there is something they need to get to on the other side. larry: right. >> reporter: something has got to give. there are democrats in congress who want president biden to take over the texas national guard. seems like they will be spending a lot of time before the supreme court over the next couple weeks. larry: that's fabulous. that's fabulous. peter doocy, best of the best. we appreciate the update very

much. all right, we're going to get right back to the illegal immigration catastrophe with our superstar panel of tammy bruce, liz peek, caroline downey in just a moment but, i want to just speak for a second on president joe biden's selling "bidenomics" in wisconsin today. now, yes, i'm an honest broker, he got a good 3.3% gdp number for the fourth quarter following a good 4.9% in the third quarter, okay? if i were he, i would be bragging about it too. inflation has come down. all's fair in love, war, politics. brag when you can. i get it. i've been there but of course mr. biden can't help himself because then he goes hog-wild with dumb things about donald trump's economic achievements. dumb things, here is something biden said, take a listen. president biden: my predecessor, he chose a different course. trickle-down economics, cut taxes for the very wealthy, big

corporations, increasing the deficit significantly. that's exactly what happened. he stripped good-paying jobs and shipped them overseas. larry: i mean he can't help himself. he just can't help himself. all these attacks are completely wrong as i have said hundreds of times, just for starters, the trump tax cuts increased average we will rages by over $6,000 while. mike:s has seen typical family income drop over 4,000. distinguished studies of corporate tax cuts showed again and again they produce more business investment, higher real wages, more productivity, helped the lower incomes and minority groups much more than the upper incomes and, they paid for themselves. now, then, there is this baloney about a thousand billionaire and how they only pay an 8% tax rate. this is wonderful. i will do it again. i've done this 100 times. this is based on an unrealized

capital gains wealth tax that was never implemented into law. does not exist. can -- there is no such thing. but, biden and his staff keeps including the unrealized income. and then applying that to today's tax rates. in order to get this phony baloney 8% rate. there is no unrealized capital gains wealth tax. and therefore there is no income to be counted. it is just flat-out lies, staggering, staggering. now, biden gdp improvement in the second half of last year is a good thing. i admit it, all right? i'm being honest here. those are the numbers, but without stepping on his line too much, to a great extent the second half improvement this year offsets the gdp decline in the first half of 2022. now, mr. biden is also right to brag on lower inflation, okay? got it. but what's troubling about these gdp reports is that the biggest

contributor to growth is -- government spending. in fact in the last two quarters government spending had the biggest growth rate of any of the other major categories in gdp, including consumer spending. this is unhealthy and ultimately will previous to be inflationary. economist joe lavorgna has pointed out government spending in the last three years under biden comes in with a cumulative excess of $3.3 trillion above the long-term trend. in other words more or less, 7 1/2% growth in spending under biden versus the 20 year trend of about 5 1/2%. the sum total of federal spending is rising faster than gdp. deficits for last year, fy-23 and for this year, fy-24 will come in around two trillion dollars per year. and big government spending which stimulates demand is not being matched by manufacturing

or business equipment which basically has been flat, for two years. now, stay with me, folks. john baptiste seay, the great french economic philosopher, it may be fran's greatest product down through the years, he argued and wrote in the nearly 19th century that supply creates its own demand. must produce in order to consume. unfortunately "bidenomics" thinks that consuming stimulated by government spending will do the job. it woken. that's called too much money chasing too few goods and that's what causes inflation to go up and that's the big risk in the economic story. i don't deny mr. biden's mini boom in recent months but i do deny his massive government spending will produce a healthy economy in the longer term.

all i'm saying. that's my riff. okay. now, let's turn to our superstar panel and see if john baptiste seay is here any place. that is a joke. know laughter, nothing. we'll go back to the illegal immigration fiasco. we'll leave john ban teeth alone and break down of senate tax with mr. mcconnell. liz peek, syndicated columnest, fox news contributor, tammy bruce and caroline downey from "national review." terrific ladies night out, i love this stuff. tammy bruce, mitch mcconnell finally through true in the towel that you can't have the deal. i don't know the deal. couple things, work permits for illegal migrants. 5000 per day, influx of 5000 per day is okay? i guess that's less than 10,000 a day.

increased number of visas for families of high-skilled laborers, 50,000 new green cards a year. and betsy mccaughey was on the show last night talking about a great column. illegals who want to fly in airplanes and do other things presumably, but they don't need a picture i.d. cards, no i.d. cards. they can just go ahead and next thing is they will vote. anyway, tammy, welcome to the show. >> thank you, first time. i appreciate it. larry: it's all, it's all, it's all yours. >> you mentioned i think of paris. i was distracted. larry: i know john baptiste seay he wrote in 180, 1802. >> that was long time ago. 5000 a day, doesn't sound like much, does it 150,000 a month. we're talking about numbers, we're still talking about incentives. even with a low number, someone

can get in. maybe i scan get in. with can make it matter. now it is better, you have to give us more money, we can get you in on that 5,000 a day. that is a huge number, as of course green cards, health care, the nature of being able to stay, never leaving again. we've got to eliminate the incentives. we've got to make it clear that's not going to happen. so this kind of a deal, it's par for the course, the status quo from before. what it reveals they still after everything over these past three years, do not understand what has happened to the country! it is not even theoretical. it is not philosophical. it is the nature of the damage that has occurred because of policy that was translated into real life that has destroyed lives, not only of americans but of those trying to emigrate into this country. the lives of children. the lives of americans and others who have overdosed in this country. that's the reality. they're still in this little bubble like they're at the very

top of the eiffel tower looking out among other people. larry: i just think politically, caroline, mitch mcconnell kind of folded his cards because he was throwing in with biden. i'm reading stuff and talking to people on the phone just a few days ago and late last week, mr. lankford, senator lankford of oklahoma, who is a good guy, playing from a thin deck but coming out with stuff basically like biden's open border would remain open. all of sudden, conservative senators, pretty much half the conference rebelled against this stuff. then of course trump is running on issue. he was opposed to any lousy deals. what can you tell us politically from the "national review" which i used to be a senior editor of, sorry? >> right, well, larry sounds like mcconnell is recognizing that trump is going to be the party's nominee and the border is his forte. this is the issue he thrives on.

the way he messages it is very compelling to voters, moderates, independents, democrats as crisis floods into our communities, our schools, our hospitals. all the local shelters you can think of, every city has been captured. there is a reason why these republican governors are calling it an invasion. politically i think trump is running on the border for a reason and mcconnell is falling in line for a reason. larry: well, amazing that. liz peek, you're writing in "the hill," joe biden's immigration avalanche is about to bury him. and interestingly, in the new hampshire numbers, immigration was -- >> number one. larry: number one again like it was in iowa. new hampshire is pretty far north. which reminds me the northern border is a problem also. >> to caroline's point this is now a nationwide problem. i think the unsung hero of this entire story is greg abbott. greg abbott is the person who started busing people to chicago

and to boston, to new york, to philadelphia. all the people in these cities are going wait a minute, we may have voted for this guy but we didn't vote to have 20, 30, 40,000 people dumped in our laps. it is now a nationwide problem. by the way, yeah, the northern border is just as unprotected, probably more so, larry but i have to say it makes me laugh to think that joe biden is basically going to war with greg abbott. it is like remember the alamo. what's he thinking? he is not allowing a as peter doocy said, one group of people putting up razor wire. larry: the other group is cutting it. >> by the way only between illegal portses of entry. you're not stopping all immigration. illegal people coming in in unsafe ways. 1700 migrants have died trying to get into texas since joe biden became president. knowing human humane about this process, nothing humane about

his immigration policy. larry: we'll bring in governor stitt in a minute. what is the deal, title 42 is missing, build the wall is missing, catch and deport is missing. just a few details were missing from this deal [laughter]. it's no wonder the snores were senators were in full revolt. hang on, we'll talk about that more in a minute. let's bring in oklahoma governor kevin stitt. governor stitt, thank you for this. we've been kind of chopping this up. as liz peek reminded us this is from peter doocy's report, the federal government wants to federalize the texas national guard. i know you're the governor of oklahoma, great state of oklahoma. you could be next, if my geography is next, you're just north of texas. one side wants to add barbed-wire and one side wants to add barbed-wire, they're

arguing about the constitution in the middle. governor stitt, thank you for coming on. can you clear this up for us? >> first off, thanks for having me on. just like you oklahomans we can't figure out what joe biden is doing. i think one of our guests said this but the razor wire, there is 28 points of entry along the southern border that you can legally seek immigration. all we're saying is don't illegally cross. that is what the razor wire is for, the barrier is for, the fact that joe biden is cutting razor wire to let people into the country. that is a head-scratcher for oklahoma and most americans. we don't know what's happening down there. larry: if there is a -- this is kind of a constitutional issue. i'm not a constitutional lawyer, maybe you are, i just want to ask, if it's clear that the federal government is not doing its job and abrogating its responsibility to protect the country with boundaries of

sovereignty and so forth, is it legal, constitutionally in your judgment, governor, that the states have to do it? i mean that is an argument, i think it is a pretty powerful argument that's out there. what do you think? >> no, we totally stand with governor abbott. i think 25 republican governors have agreed, we sent a letter in support of governor abbott's position, article i, the states created the federal government and of course we have the right to defend our state and that's exactly what abbott's is doing. oklahoma will stand with texas but again, i'm so happy you guys are sharing this. i've been to the border and all that we're trying to do is keep illegal immigrants from crossing illegally. go to one of the ports of entry. let's do it legally. we need to get back to trump's policy, "remain in mexico," so we can stop this migration that's coming. again, most of the stuff is just common sense for 95% of

americans. and joe biden is just turning this country upside down. larry: as a governor down there, you are pretty close to the border, but as a governor in oklahoma, what do you, what will you do, what can you do, what have you been doing? like, being on the ground, a curbside view of this disaster, what steps can you take in oklahoma and other governors? i know texas and arizona, they're right on the front lines. larry: i get that. as liz peek said a few moments ago, this is flags every state issue. in other words illegal immigration is showing up in the iowa caucuses. it is showing up in the new hampshire primary. there are even issues about the known border governor stitt as you may know about, the potential terrorists will come in over that border which is rather porous? >> first off, i already sent our national guard to the southern border in support of governor

abbott. 10 oar 11 other governors have done that. we're looking to do it again. again, texas, oklahoma, we're having to spend state tax dollars to defend against the fentanyl crisis, the potential terrorists that are coming across the southern border. the feds are not doing their job. i want americans, they have to understand, they're cutting the barrier and letting people in. that is what joe biden and democrats are advocating for. it is just a head-scratcher. i think to most americans. we don't understand what is their, why would they do that? why wouldn't we want to secure boredders? last time i few to mexico, guess what? i had to land a airport at port of entry. guess what? i had to check my passport to make sure they know who is coming into the country. larry: we don't do that the united states doesn't do that anymore. i think we used to do that. yes, i don't think we do that

anymore. you have no common sense, governor. you want them to check your passport. next thing you will know, you want a photo on i.d. cards. i don't know. tough stuff. somehow all of that was missing from biden's offer. any way, governor kevin stitt from the great state of oklahoma. good to see you again sir. >> you bet. thanks so much. larry: take care. let me have a quick run around with our panel. you will stay here. leave for one minute, come back to do the whole show. tammy, one side cutting the wire, the other side putting up the wire, now that is really among the stupidest -- i've been in and out of government for many years, that is one of the stupidest things i ever heard. how does this -- who is the winner here, who is the loser here, what is the politics of this? >> i think it is greg abbott. this is the man of the hour showing americans what's going on. this isn't just limited to texas or arizona, et cetera.

what is perplexing is, the biden administration is now saying, even biden said there is a crisis at the border. they're trying to figure it out. so when you have federal officers or someone associated with the biden administration on orders from the biden administration to continue to open the border as you're arguing that it is a crisis and you want to shut it, greg abbott's a smart man. larry: defacto that's what they're saying. >> that's what they're saying. again this is not a legal point of entry. this is illegal point of entry. that is also especially dangerous. so that's crazy. i will just tell you about the terrorists in the northern border. according to representative kelly from, republican out of pennsylvania, last year in november, 85% of all suspected terrorists encountered at the land border ports of entry have crossed into the united states from the northern border. that is according to customs and border patrol. larry: hang on. you all will come back. just real quick, liz, the idea that the federal government will

federalize state national guards. that came up in this cush by business with peter doocy. that is insanity. that is insanity. >> not just texas as the oklahoma governor just mentioned, i think now 10 or 12 states are sending national guard to texas. larry: right. >> are they going to nationalize everybody's national guard? this is insanity, larry. the governor stitt is exactly right, the feds are not doing their job. so do your job. don't attack your states. this is the stupidest thing ever. larry: caroline, just last real quick point, it is interesting to me that mitch mcconnell folded on this issue, just right? he is a hawk on ukraine. that's really his biggest priority. i don't happen to agree with that but others may, i'm just saying. is it interesting he folded on this issue? it is now in january dead. >> this issue is reaching a political breaking point because

the biden administration is engaged in an open conspiracy to subvert our national sovereignty. we're at that point. larry: i have to jump out. terrific. you're going to stay. you will leave around come back. going to be here most of the show. it's going to be okay. kevin has it own joe biden's economy. stick around

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larry: all right, president biden bragging about about the y in wisconsin today. does he deserve any self-praise? let's ask kevin hassett, former chair of the council of economic advisors, now distinguished fellow at the hoover institution, author of "the drift," stopping america's slide to socialism, the most important book in the 21st century. kevin, 3.7 gdp today. 4.9% in the third quarter. these are last years numbers. low inflation, biden is bag bragging about it and numbers were good and numbers are better than expected than a few months. inflation is worse than the market thinks, you and i talked about that, but we have to pause, really think is biden lying about the numbers, the numbers are the numbers but why are they like that? not that he has done much to the economy. in other words he regulate ad

lot, he is letting tax hikes come, he is not doing things in the economic models, letting economy boom, but he is letting it boom. the leading theory, i've been digging this week, the economic gains from artificial intelligence are bigger than i started. there is a starting to be some science, a guy eric out at stanford, showing productivity goes up 15 to 20% when a company hires someone like snowflake or something, these big companies come in help you be better. the way to think about it, there is chess a.i. that can beat the very before the chess players. if you get a business a.i. to run in tow run the business it will be smarter than the humans too. larry: but it is not showing up in the business side. the business slide has been flat to down. that is what i find troubling. the biggest crypt tore to all of this is government. >> consumption. larry: yeah, even in this last

fourth quarter, consumption was 2.%, government 3.3%. in the third quarter, consumption strong, 3.1%, government 5.8% at an annual rate. how long can that last? >> right. there will be a reckoning for that for sure but again, i think that there is something else going on that is a little bit stronger because one of the things that you and i have known we've been talking about since way back in the day, back when you worked for president roosevelt, right? larry: i never worked for roosevelt. you mean teddy roosevelt. >> big spending doesn't necessarily give you the gdp that you think. larry: that's right. >> keynesian models when you have high government, you have higher gdp doesn't necessarily work. i don't think he juiced the economy. i think we're going through a '90s, technological change that will make the economy stronger than people think for a while regardless who is president. it is politically impactful. if we get a quarter or two like ones we have on upside, that is

good for president biden's prospects. hey the economy is better than i thought. fourth quarter gdp growth of three something, he carries that all the way through the election, i think that will be much harder for president trump or whoever to defeat him. larry: we'll leave it there. kevin hassett being very honest. the numbers are the numbers. you have to give credit where credit is due. sometimes though, presidents don't have much of an impact. i got to get out. kevin hassett, everybody. big new chair at the hoover institution. anyway coming up here on "kudlow," president trump running an issues focused campaign and by the way organizationally he is the strongest he has ever been. we'll bring bark tammy bruce, liz peek and caroline downey to talk all about it. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪

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attorney fani willis' fiasco down there in hotlanta, georgia? fox news's steve herrigan all over it with the details. steve, good evening, thanks again. >> reporter: sure. larry, another day, another hearing here in atlanta. this time it was about meetings, meets between white house staffers and district attorney's in atlanta. they said they were standard logistical meetings. defense attorneys are saying this was attempt by the biden white house to control the prosecution of president trump. >> the white house has its fingerprints on all for criminal prosecutions of president trump and now we know they have their fingerprints on this case. >> reporter: now, trump's attorneys have joined the legal challenge to try to remove the d.a., fani willis from the case. willis herself is expected to be compelled to give testimony at a hearing february 15th. she will try to answer the charges that she and her chief

prosecutor, corruptly used government funds to enrich themselves. larry, back to you. larry: thanks very much, steve harrigan. we appreciate it. all right, we've got more. ladies night out. darrell caroline downey, "national review," tammy bruce, liz peek, fox news contributor. tammy, fani willis, fani willis i think she is in a heap of trouble. her legal case is in trouble. now she has this ethical case, what do you think about this? >> this is what americans generally see, politicians behave in a manner where they don't believe the rules apply to them. they enjoy the positions to do whatever they want and they're never held accountable. we see that kind of unfolding. so it is unusual when someone is caught, but in this case she is much more in front. she is doing something that many people think is, you know, not legitimate in certain ways. and so there is, there are eyes on her.

and, i think it hurts not only her but it hurts the nature it of what americans are thinking about government in general right now. certainly law enforcement, both at the state and federal level, considering what clearly appears to be a persecution of donald trump. larry: why did they have have to go to the white house, liz, before they brought the suit, rico suit which makes no -- they did go, they spent a lot of time at the white house and her boyfriend was, he was remuner rated for spending time. hell i wouldn't pay him for spending time in the white house. that is just me. >> although this white house you may have to pay them to go there. tammy is right, general soft corruption, two standards of justice et cetera. today was a notable day in that peter navarro was sentenced to four months in jail. larry: right. >> no one has been sentenced or sent to jail on contempt of congress or defying a subpoena for 50 years, larry.

this is the second trump aide to do this. this is just the constant pile-up of legal attacks on president trump is one of the reasons, without a doubt, that his approval has turned around so successfully. larry: from the white house. orchestrated by the white house. >> in fact every single case now as they said on -- larry: has a link. >> they're putting fingerprints are all over this. larry: right. >> what can you possibly make of that? we were told when president trump was in office that his department of justice was politicized. i have never seen a department of justice so corrupted by the president as this one has been. larry: peter navarro, trade visor, former colleague of mine in the trump white house, he and i agreed and disagreed, okay, but he should not be going to jail. >> oh, it is ridiculous. larry: this is pure insanity. unless they want to throw hunter biden in jail. that's a double standard. >> that's what donald trump has to talk about on the campaign trail. peter navarro versus hunter

biden. larry: caroline, can i go back to this other thing the economy this other thing, affordability is still the economic achilles' heel seems to me of joe biden because over his three-year period, even though inflation has recently come down, the level of prices are way up, up 17% over three years and that has eaten into wages which are only up about 14 to 15%. so, real wages down, people can't afford daily living. there is a number in wisconsin, that i found today, average typical family has, they have to make 10 1/2 thousand dollars more to make ends meet. >> right. larry: i think that's why biden's polls on the economy are low despite the fact gdp has improved. >> the biden administration keeps resort towing resorting to

these "bidenomics" is working in, inflation is lower, my generation doesn't care. we see our purchasing power is greatly undermined year-over-year, commodities. i said on previous panels, i cannot afford to live in the town where i grew up, my childhood was, appreciation in real estate, granted there are some bubbles with that, generally speaking everything is way up. that makes us less powerful as consumers. larry: it makes it less politically potent i think. >> yes. larry: you don't buy and sell gdp. you do buy and sell groceries, electricity, gasoline, for example, so i think that is an important point. the other thing that's come up, i don't know, i think it was "axios," tammy, i'm not sure, could have been punchbowl, i don't know, i get all these left-wing sites. >> what is the difference? larry: i get it through "the daily caller" which is a good conservative site. i give it credit where credit

due. trump campaign, trump, best organization ever, better than 2016, better than 2020. suzie is in the lead. i don't know him he is supposed to be a terrific campaign manager, good communications people. trump is all over the place with the power campaign. doesn't get enough credit for that. >> well he is also being carried by an american sensibility here suggesting what we just discussed, the persecution of him. he has the wind. we like trump to be trump. that's what we like about him, transparency who he is, yes, a deeply flawed man but aren't we all deeply flawed? we don't have to guess where he is coming. we know his strengths and weaknesses. we got the same guy we got in 2016. he now knows what he is against. he understands what people are capable much. he loves the country even more,

he understands like we do he has got to win in order to save the country. i will remind people about a biden comment in november 22, we have to demonstrate trump will not take power if he runs, that he underlegitimate efforts of the constitution does not become the next president. that is the fani willis dynamic. that is the persecutions. larry: people don't like that. because it could happen to you and me. >> always happens to many people, certainly disenfranchised people in this country. there has always been complaints particularly with black men about the system being against them. now we've seen it in real time, in general and i do think that trump, this is a tremendous opportunity, note just for his re-election, so that for his personal success but for the country itself. >> but it was "axios" talked about the new organized, professionalism of the trump campaign. larry: was it "axios"? >> i heard this from people in the campaign. it's incredibly important.

it's why it's helpful to him in iowa and new hampshire. one of the reasons, he had people in every single district, every single precinct in iowa and new hampshire. this is a new trump organization. larry: it was "axios." >> unbelievably, it was "axios,." larry: i knew it was one of those. >> incredibly important as you lay out a national campaign. larry: don't you love it i read these left-wing site? that is how ecumenical we are. [laughter] >> i think this is really unbelievably important thing because in 2020, well, actually, it makes me laugh "the new york times" did a real head on attack on president trump recently. one of the things they don't like he is better organized. the heritage foundation and other groups all the people that might be added to a '24 win in the white house. they hate that. guess what? that is what they should be doing, right? larry: one last one. larry: caroline on all of this. "the wall street journal" wrote

an editorial today, thrilled nikki haley is continuing to run. they never like donald trump at all. maybe the leading never trumper in the country. in the editorial, oh by the way you should have something on the issues because nobody knows what your issues are. they had about three paragraphs in there that said, what do you believe on this, on this, on this. i think that's been trump's strength, that's been haley's weakness. >> yeah. larry: she hasn't said much, anything about the issues. when she does it hasn't been good. >> trump's policy focus, like you said, what is galvanizing voters. hailly's success, wasn't terrible in new hampshire because of all the independents and democrats flocked to her, not because they were enthusiastic about her because it was a vote to defeat trump which doesn't really say a lot about her loyalty. i also read that haley just lost a major billionaire donor. granted she has -- larry: oh, no, really.

>> but she has enough fund raising to keep other campaign going because she shouldn't. she will suffer a humiliating defeat in south carolina, her home turf. trump should treat it like the general election is here. that is the best thing for him to do. larry: i got to get out. liz peek, caroline downey, tammy bruce, thank you. >> thank you. larry: coming up here, folks, why doesn't chuck schumer close the border? what does he have against chewing tobacco or whatever it is? this is a fascinating thing. no tobacco, you can have a joint on the street in new york city but chuck schumer doesn't want you to chew any tobacco or nicotine substitutes. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back.

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they want to hold the hearing after the ntsb releases the initial findings what went wrong when that plug flew off the alaska airlines flight midair. >> do you have concerns about systemic production issues at boeing? >> possibly. i do think in approaching this issue we need to be systemic and we need to follow the evidence. >> i do. i do believe him that he says he is trying to fix that but obviously we see that there are problems. >> reporter: alaska and united say they're looking to get the max 9 planes they already have back in the skies as early as next week. they have to finish required inspections first. several major airlines say they're expecting fewer deliveries of max planes after the faa says it won't let boeing expand production of them. another story, getting buzz this week on the hill, you mentioned, senate majority leader chuck schumer, he is calling for the feds to crack down on zen

nicotine pouches. don't think there is any tobacco in them but nicotine. they want the fcc to look into the company's product and marketing practices where they target kids. many lawmakers are crying government overreach and at least one democrat seems to be on their side. >> i'm going to err on the side of more freedom and personal choices of those kinds of things. more than half a million americans die every year from smoking and tobacco or, you know, tens and tens of thousands die from alcohol and i think there is bigger issues to address than that product. >> reporter: fetterman also said that of course keep that product out of the hands of kids. by the way we reached out to philip morris which owns zinn. they say they exceed all regulations on the industry and of course they don't mark credit to kids. larry? larry: grady, chuck schumer, you can snoke a joint on new york. you can smell marijuana everywhere you go and won't let

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