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the type of investor that tunes out the fed or will you be very focused on tomorrow in this hour when jay powell and company have their news conference? >> yeah. i don't know if tomorrow matters as much but believe me, fed policy matters. we were in the camp for a while inflation is coming faster than people thought. could allow the fed pivot that happened last year. allowed for small cap rally. may will probably be the first cut. maybe three or four cuts this year. fed policy matters. don't ignore it but a lot matters more. liz: pryian, you know what matters at the moment, you get to witness with rest of our viewers a dow record. [closing bell rings] i will call the s&p too close to call. the numbers still have to settle. we'll watch it. that will do it for us. keep it here tomorrow, our fed coverage. don't miss it. ♪ larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow.
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well, alejandro mayorkas's head is on the chopping block as the house is drawing up his impeachment papers. we'll have senator bill hagerty and house majority leader steve scalise in just a few minutes to weigh in, plus still no word on what joe biden's going to do to iran. we'll talk about that with former defense official kash patel. then biden's economic ammunition that virtually no one saw coming was steve forbes and steve moore. i don't know, all the economic models were wrong. later in the show journalist mat taibbi writes the democrats are campaigning on donald trump sabotaging the election but in fact it's the dems who are sabotaging trump. "breitbart"'s alex marlow, "national review" caroline downey, monica crowley are going to weigh in. first up let's head over to washington for the latest on the mayorkas impeachment papers. fox news congressional correspondent chad pergram has all the details. chad, thank you, what can you
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tell us. >> reporter: larry, good afternoon, the argument is over high crimes and misdemeanors. that is the constitutional bar for impeachment, whether for a president, a federal judge or in this case a cabinet secretary. the house last impeached a cabinet secretary 148 years ago. >> this is what's going to happen. the house of representatives is going to impeach secretary mayorkas and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop it. that's going to happen. there is not one district in america that is not impacted by this border -- >> reporter: on the house floor republicans can only lose two votes on impeachment. it is about the math. there are two to three republicans who could struggle to impeach. democrats believe impeachment is a bridge too far. >> you do not have a right to demean this institution, bass a tarreddize the impeach clause of the constitution to such a degree you can't even produce a
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legal memo in support of your articles of impeachment that do not exist in history. >> reporter: there are two articles of impeachment. one accuses mayorkas of not enforcing the law. the other says may work cast lied to congress saying the border was secure. the democrats believe it is all political. >> i think another saying appropriately describes what's going on here and that's just shoveling the same old [bleep] and calling it sugar. the public wants us to deal with the border, not to impeach mayorkas. >> reporter: this comes against the backdrop of border talks. there is still no bill text. house speaker mike johnson is working against the bill but says it is quote absurd. he was doing the bidding of former president trump to kill the bill. larry? larry: chad, on the mayorkas peach peep thing, going to vote out of committee today. then house floor vote next week or is there a different
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timetable? >> reporter: no, that's what we're hearing sometime late tonight out of committee this is going since 10:00 this morning. might go deep into the night and probably the middle of next week if they have the votes. larry: got it, chad pergram, thanks very, very much. folks in a moment we'll talk to senator bill hagerty and house majority leader steve scalise on the mayorkas impeachment and perhaps a new senate border bill but my take on the illegal immigration catastrophe. look it, former president donald trump sent out today make america great again circular and it was entitled biden has done all he can to open the border. mr. trump argues that biden terminated his successful "remain in mexico" policy. biden signed an executive order on his first day in office to halt the construction of the border wall. biden reinstated catch-and-release. biden offered i.c.e. to stop worksite immigration enforcement and biden stopped deporting illegal immigrants who were in
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the country illegally. plus, i would add, title 42 has ended and that was a pandemic health check of great importance. now, as we know the three-year biden number is roughly 8 million illegals with all the sex and drug trafficking, fentanyl killing, law and order disrupting that goes along with this disaster. the house has passed hr.2 which is a superb bill that would essentially restore the trump approach, build the wall, "remain in mexico," catch and deport. the senate is now crafting a bill. now we don't know all of the details because so far there is no legislative text, but, various senate leaks have been talking about something called a trigger authorization. this is a very bad idea. this trigger would allegedly curb immigration if 8500 illegals arrive at the border in
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one day, or 5000 illegals arrive for seven days in a row. now for context in december the dailies averaged nearly 10,000. so i don't believe for one minute that president biden or dhs secretary mayorkas will close the border. whether it's 5000 or 8500, that is way too high anyway. house speaker mike johnson calls for a policy of zero tolerance. he is right. if mr. biden and the senators believe they can close the border after 5000, or 8500 arrive daily, then how about just closing the border? period, full stop. end of sentence. just close it. what we know about the senate bill is that it will continue the parole problem, continue the asylum problem, is loaded with loopholes and it will not end the the biden open border policy of
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catch-and-release. migrants will not be detained, will not be sent home as they await asylum decisions and there is no "remain in mexico," there is no help from the mexican military presence of about 25,000 troops such as mr. trump got through his negotiation and there is no wall in the senate bill and there is no title 42 in the senate bill. from what we know the bill in the senate is a very bad idea. and mr. trump, and house gop, and hopefully a majority of republican senators should definitely oppose it. and that's my riff. all right. let's get to our experts who welcome tennessee senator bill hagerty and house majority leader and louisiana congressman steve scalise. gentlemen, thank you very much. mr. scalise, i want to play some sound from governor greg abbott of texas which i think summarizes a lot of this. please take a listen. >> joe biden is in violation of
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federal law that already exists. for one he is not living up to his duty to deny illegal entry across the border around said he is aiding that illegal entry. second thing he is not, once people cross the border is not detaining them as required by law. he is giving mass parole across the country. larry: so, mr. scalise, mass parole across the country, they don't close the border. i don't think they will. your bill hr.2 is a whole lot better than what i'm hearing from the senate. how do you read this, steve scalise. give us the lowdown. how do you read this? >> larry, president biden created this problem, make no mistake about it and he has the legal authority to fix this problem. frankly he has a constitutional mandate to secure our nation. our nation is not secure when you have thousands of people coming across every day from countries by the way that want to does harm. that's why we put together a really good bill six months ago,
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hr.2, as you talked about, a bill that gets back to the things you need to do have real asylum f you want to seek asylum you need to stay in your home country, "remain in mexico," an catch-and-release all the things that need to happen. build the wall, are in that bill and the president doesn't want to negotiate on it. speaker johnson is very clear. any other discussions that they want about ukraine, anything else are nonstarters until we secure america's border. we have to focus on that. we have a bill to do it. we laid out a template. what we're hearing out of the senate where they will allow thousands more people to come across illegal is a nonstarter, that is dead on arrival. we already have open borders. we need to secure our border. we showed the country how to do it with hr.2 the president needs to get in this game. he can do it on his own with executive action. he refuses to because president biden wants a open border. why mayorkas is under heat with this impeachment proceeding. president biden is under water on this issue too because the country is fed up.
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the country want as secure border and so does this congress. larry: senator hagerty, welcome, sir, thank you for doing this with mr. scalise. we appreciate it very much. senator hagerty, two things i don't understand, number one you don't need any new legislation. if you want to close the border, close the border. it can be done by executive direction. it was undone by biden's executive direction. the second thing, senator hagerty, this trigger mechanism sounds like a very bad idea. what do you think? >> well i have respect for my colleagues as you know, larry. i think they have been working very hard on a piece of legislation. i haven't seen it, as you mention the haven't seen the text, tell you this, you have been in business for years. when you negotiate with the other side and don't show good faith you walk away. steve scalise said president biden had every tool president trump had. joe biden came in intentionally undid all of that. he showed no good faith to try
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to step back up to say he was wrong to put back in place the border wall, to begin rebuilding that again, to put back in place remain in mexico, third party safe agreements he has an down all of this. they were in the supreme court, the biden administration was in the supreme court just last week seeking permission to take doesn't the razor wire at our southern border that greg abbott put up. that is not good faith. when the other side is not negotiating in good faith, the time is to step away. what we have thousand is a situation very, very hard to square. >> senator, on these points, the way this bill, we haven't seen the legislative text, i get that, but this trigger mechanism you, 5000, 8500 whatever you believe, do you believe one minute the border will be closed if you exceed those targets? really, after what we've been through the past three years, and it was the mayorkas dhs would supervise this.
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the biden administration, that would, if they wanted to close the border they would close the border. but they don't want to close the border. numerical targets sound good, senator hagerty i do not believe it will be enforced. >> i think the biden administration has shown bad faith throughout. you have every legitimate reason, larry it won't be enforced, as complex as it sounds we haven't seen the text it it sounds tex it is fraught with opportunity for biden administration to misinterpret it. if you talk about secretary mayorkas, if he is responsible for overseeing this, listen i applaud the house what is doing right now. in the private sector someone allowed this to happen, 8 million people entered illegally under his watch, hundreds of thousands of people dying from fentanyl coming across the southern border, we have no idea how many people are in the terrorist watch list, the national security crisis is
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through the roof and secretary mayorkas, every hearing where i cross-examine him he has been the most orwellian answerer of anyone i ever spoke with. he says the exact opposite of the trying every time. it is high time to deal with him. in the private sector he would have been fired a long time ago. larry: mr. scalise, let me come back to you, on the impeachment, democrat report, they will not be with you, as you reckon, quote, after a number of false starts republicans have landed on refusal to comply with the law and breach of the public trust as the charges against secretary mayorkas. these vague, unprecedented and fallacious charges amount to policy disputes with the biden administration and clearly do not pass muster as legitimate grounds for impeachment under the constitution. the charges against second mayor mayorkas are window-dressing for a policy disagreement.
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that is a interesting argument. is this a policy disagreement or is this truly an impeachment offense, mr. scalise? >> well, first of all secretary mayorkas's job is to protect america's homeland. he is the homeland security secretary. when eight million people have come across our border illegally, including people on the terrorist watch list he has failed miserably at his job of keeping our country safe and secure and when he comes before congress he testifies under oath that america's border is secure. that's a flat-out lie. either he is ignorant of the facts that are going on at the border which he can't be because everybody sees what is going on. president biden is desperate to assign blame to somebody else. he put his own vice president in charge of border security and she doesn't want to have anything to do with it. she failed miserably at the job but the secretary of homeland security is the person in charge of the border. he can secure the border today. he has chosen not to.
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that is a failure of his job. that's why he is facing impeachment proceedings today. by the way he has had months, months, larry to get this right. he has chosen not to. so he brought it upon himself. so has joe biden. larry: steve scalise, will this get out of committee today or tonight? >> yes, it will get out of committee tonight. it will be on the floor next week for the full house to vote on. larry: what do you reckon, you think you can get it through? you get all republican support? i know it is a tough call but what do you think? >> yeah, look it is unfortunate we're at this spot, larry but the country is fed up. the country wants and deserves a secure border. we have got a border security chief who doesn't want to secure america's border. we have a president who doesn't want to secure america's border but the country demands it. when you look at events around the world to allow people from every country, we're not talking about south and central america right now. there is over 160 different
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countries represented coming across the border illegally as we speak right now every single day. as senator hagerty talked about, deaths from fentanyl. 150 people a day are dying from drugs being brought across the border because drug cartels have operational control of our border undersecretary mayorkas. that is another national disgrace they're allowing it to happen. this is going on in full public view. they're watching it. they're fed up. if the secretary won't do his job, let's impeach him let somebody else do his job. larry: senator hagerty, give you the last word, you think there is enough republicans. i'm not here to attack senator lankford but i think he is doing the best he can do, but i don't like the product as it has leaked out are there enough republicans to vote for this in the senate? >> based on what people are hearing and seeing we're
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divided, larry. perhaps it doesn't see the light of day. that would suit me just fine if what you're hearing you described is manifest in the document it will not work in the united states senate four the republicans. larry: gentlemen, i want to thank you both for appearing together. i know it is a bit unusual. we appreciate it. we live in unusual times. senator bill hagerty. house majority leader steve scalise. two personal friends. >> thanks, larry. larry: coming up here on "kudlow," joe biden's ammunition and economic performance is a lot better than anybody saw coming okay? be honest about the numbers. the question is why and what does it mean politically? we steve forbes and steve moore. they're going to weigh in. and remember you can catch "kudlow" monday through friday, 4:00 p.m. right here on fox business. if you can't catch us at 4:00, just text your favorite nine-year-old and she will show you how to dvr the show and you
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you, objectively, empirically, this is a year where almost everyone in the world from the highest to the lowest expected either a slow, slow growth or a recession and a lot stick skier inflation than we got. the last six month have been you know, semi euphoric. those are what the numbers show. nobody predicted it. now the bidens, there is a story that biden is giving up on "bidenomics." he ought to probably stick with "bidenomics" at least a little bit, the public doesn't like it. why is it? how did this outcomb that no model predicted, steve moore, how did this outcome happen? >> by the way first of all, larry, i want to con great late you. this is the first time in history of american tv you had a united states senator on the air with a united states house of representatives member. that never happens. i don't know how you pulled that off. look the economy is clear live better. for the record i was not one of those economists on wall street who said we would have a recession in 2023. you just have an amazing private
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sector. i have those seven, those "magnificent seven" that really carried the economy so dramatically. i love to see a strong economy, as you and steve forbes do i love to see a strong stock market. i think the big problem for biden right now, for at least half the population they're not feeling effects of this. you look at median household income, you know this, you cited the statistic many times, adjusted for inflation the average household is poorer today than they were three years ago when donald trump left office. there is no getting around that. people tell me that at the grocery store. they have tell me that at the hardware store. they are feeling financially pinched. one other things, look these growth numbers are pretty good but let's not forget the biggest sector economy that is growing in terms of employment and in terms of gdp growth has been government. that's a problem. we should be shrinking the
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government, not growing it. larry: so i would argue, what i call the affordability case is very much present. prices are rising faster than wages and real incomes still falling but i will say this, less so, steve forbes, less so. recent months actually wages have gone up faster than prices has inflation has cooled. over the three-year period, you still have a problem and i think that's why "bidenomics" polls so badly, but really it is interesting to me, everyone wants to politicize all these numbers, i understand that. lefty bloggers attacking conservatives, so forth, not all, it is like, you can't, the fed, cbo, i mean they're not right-wing activists, right? they were expecting either a major slowdown or recession. just go back to look at their estimates for heavens sakes. all survey of professional forcast terse, survey of "wall street journal" forecast,
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i acknowledge i was much gloomier than the story turned out in 2023. why, why do you think this is? i don't even think joe biden understands it. he is not talking about "bidenomics" anymore. >> he doesn't understand much these days. larry: he is leaving it too soon i think. he is leaving it before it peaked anyway why do you think this happened? >> because the models didn't take into account the covid shutdowns. the covid shutdowns did what a wartime economy does, totally discombobulate everything. takes time to get the supply chains working again. takes time for people going back to their old jobs and many of them don't. all the models are predicated on a peacetime economy, not a postwar economy, not a post covid economy. as steve alluded to, you look at the report, is it has clouds there. take out health care and leisure, which has recovered since the lockdown, the average
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became 3,000 jobs a month in recent times. this is a small basis. you do have a tale of two cities here. a lot of people are struggling. a lot of people are over debt in their credit cards. the economy is not as strong. i hope they go out there to say, see how great it is? another thing, this is subject for another time, gdp counts government spending as a plus, rather than a minus. larry: no, that's correct. i want to add to it though today, you had the s&p corelogic, house prices up 5% year on year. if you own a home that is awfully good. if you don't own a home it is not good. consumer sentiment came out today, corroborated earlier numbers, big up move in december and january, jolts jobs opening number were stronger than people thought. the atlanta fed gdp estimate foreq1 steve moore is about, steve moore, 3%. i agree with you fellows about
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government. i written and talked about it myself but the question, here, go back a year. the first half of 2022 had two negative gdps. all right? then you had a stronger than expected recovery f you're a phillips curve model, supply side, nokia would have predicted this, no one to be honest with you. the boom in the stock market started mid-october, late october. by the way wall street will be wrong. wall street is looking for six or seven federal reserve rate cuts. not going to happen. no reason to cut rates if you're the fed. you have got strong growth and you got falling inflation. almost goldilocks, steve moore, almost goldilocks. if joe biden was any good he would be out flogging this. let me tell you, the guy is not copastetic enough to deal with it. >> i think one of the big questions obviously in the presidential race is, are you better off than when trump was president? are these policies working
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better? take the stock market for example. i just ran these numbers for your show, larry, if you inflation adjust the returns obviously when you invest in the stock market, right, steve forbes, interested in after inflation no not before inflation rate of return. in three years of trump's presidency the s&p 500 was up over 30% in real terms. you know what that number is under biden even with the rally you're talking about? it is up eight or 9%. a lot of these things were a lot better than trump. the other crucial thing is biden has done a lot of damage to the economy with a lot of his policies especially the debt policies but let's not forget, you know what is it still intact, larry? that tax cut. larry: yes. >> trump tax cut really put a lot of juice into the economy and hard as democrats have tried they have not been able to raise those tax rates. i guarranty you though, give them another shot, if they have another four years, those tax rates are going through the roof. larry: i will give steve forbes
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last word, 30 seconds, but yellen and the bidens don't talk about overspending, overborrowing, and i will just say overdebt. they don't talk about that which may harbor very badly for the long run. >> it does indeed because who finances that? what government spending does they think money comes from god or wherever. what it comes from we the people. government takes the resources, allocates those resources and calls it stimulus to the economist all right, you look at microchips. they're getting a huge bill that we know when government gets involved in the private sector it mucks things up, slows things down. microchip industry would be much stronger, semiconductor industry would be much stronger today if they had never got that bill through because access to capital, they do what they needed to do quickly. larry: i have to jump, steve moore, steve forbes, all forecasters out there, thank you very much. coming up, folks, matt taibbi writes democrats accuse trump of sabotaging the election.
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♪. larry: all right, looks like the case against fulton county d.a. fani willis heating up in hotlanta, georgia. fox news correspondent steve harrigan live with the latest. steve, what is the latest? >> reporter: republican lawmakers are just lining up to investigate fani willis for the charge she had an improper relationship with the chief prosecutor that she hired. the republican house here in georgia, the georgia senate, even the fulton county officials are all launching investigations against her. >> obviously strictly a personal relationship, that's not what we're interested in. to the extent lines were crossed, he had call lines were crossed, legal lines were crossed, state funds were use
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the in furtherance of this, that is what we're interested in finding out. >> reporter: the chief prosecutor nathan wade is back in court tomorrow. it will be for his divorce proceedings. he has asked hiss judge for a protective order to prevent anymore of his financial information from leaking out. larry, back to you. larry: all right, steve hair again. never a dull moment down there. i will have to fly down, hotlanta, fani willis, steve harrigan, thank you very much. let's move on, folks. interesting story here, well-known journalist matt taibbi, wrote two long pieces about a democratic plot trying to stop trump from becoming president. in particular 2024 being the first american law fair election, pushing a propaganda campaign pushing to americans that trump would be a dictator. he mentioned something called the transition integrity project, includes jennifer granholm and biden "politico,"
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john podesta. they charge how trump will investigate his opponents. how trump will label them insurrectionists. how trump will play the sabotage game and keep them off the ballot. the trouble is, the democrats who have done 24 to trump. the shoe is on the other foot. i want to talk about this. some of the threats are very real. we have alex marlow, editor-in-chief of "breitbart news." monica crowley, former assistant treasury secretary, host of monica crowley podcast and caroline downey, "national review" reporter. i want to start out with you, this is interesting, mr. taibbi seems to be a man of the left is now criticizing the democrats, all the democratic fears about trump, what they're doing to trump it seems to me. what do you make of it? >> this has been their move for a long time, larry, and it is working for them. the russian collusion hoax, hillary clinton whose ties to
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russia were too deep to think trump was a russian plant. inflation reduction plant. joe biden acts like donald trump is dividing the country while he relentlessly demonizes anyone who is against his agenda. people opposed to the democracy, don't want voters to choose the president, telling us we're the threats to democracy especially trump. larry: you know, caroline, so, right, some of these cable shows, networks, they won't even play trump when he is on, that is one thing that is amazing but they are accusing trump of insurrection, not the other way around. they are being, democrats are being dictatorial. democrats for biden don't want anyone on the ballot so he doesn't face primaries. the bag of tricks taibbi describes allegedly aimed at trump is what the democrats are doing at trump. it isn't trump doing to the democrats. >> historically the democrats operate like a military warhead
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quarters. they're never lying dormant. when they want to consolidate power they unleash their entire arsenal. they try to get people off the primary process, their rivals. they have delegitimatized new hampshire. tried to sue opponent donald trump into owe livian, $83 million worth of damages inn the e. jean carroll case, they try to kick him off the ballot in multiple states. this is the classic tactic. they're getting more transparent and resorting to more devious and can knifing schemes. larry: monica, so far it hasn't hurt trump. it may have even helped trump in some respects. you know the election looms, mail-in ballots and harvesting are still around. cable and broadcast networks won't play trump when he comes on. i mean i think there's stuff to worry about, even though the taibbi scenario is putting the shoe on the other foot. the democrats are going to do it
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anyway. >> well, yeah, no that's right. listen, donald trump from the moment he came down that escalator in june of 2015, the left has thrown the kitchen sink at this man, to try to neutralize his influence on american politics. and everything has failed. so they cannot believe that the man is not just still standing, larry, but the fact that he is thriving, obviously the gop primary process is over, despite nikki haley. and he is leading now in most if not all general election polls against joe biden. so they can't believe it. so they're going to leverage this law fair as much as they can and perhaps the deep state has something else up their sleeve to throw at donald trump to try to stop him but the ultimate result is all of these things have in fact strengthened him f they hit donald trump with just one legal case, maybe the american people would say, well maybe he is guilty of it or not,
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but this massive pile-on of case after case after case, criminal, civil, you name it, being thrown at donald trump, most of the american people see it as way too much. that the left has jumped the shark and yet another reason why donald trump is leading. larry: well, alex, you know, okay, democrats planned and plotted you know, john podesta and so forth but it has backfired has it not, alex? i mean that's the irony. the way i read the taibbi articles, yes i understand that's their threat but it has backfired on the democrats. trump has not done it. they have done it. it hasn't helped them. plus they don't have any issues to talk about. maybe ironically they might talk about a strengthening economy if it kept up this year. we don't know it will. don't you find that ironic? don't you find a big miscalculation by the democratic big wigs? >> if the polls that we're
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seeing right now hold absolutely but there is long way to go until november and if you look at the army the left is building. we have huge reporting on it with something called the indivisible which originated out of hillary clinton debacle, massive hoards of money and activists ready to fight for every last democratic vote i don't know if the republicans have that. think about what is happening online, tech, minimize any horrible news about joe biden. take that into account and media flooding the zone with anti-trump content not what is going on in this country, i don't underestimate the left until we beat them and we have not had a resounding victory until 2016. larry: you're right, it is not over until it is over, to quote a fill solve -- fill loss officer. a new poll, 63 trump, 31 nikki haley. interesting among voters who think haley did a good job as
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governor of south carolina, still by 56-40, they are going to be voting for trump, at least according to tony fabirzio polling. he is really good. why isn't she still in the race? doesn't this drain resources from the trump campaign if she stays in the campaign, instead of devoting with biden they have to play in the pond a little more were nikki haley. >> technically, nikki haley has the right to be in the race, better than kicking her off the ballot, that would be undemocratic. bide south carolina is trump country. she will have a humiliating defeat. this is selfish at? point for her to stay in the contest. she has the money to continue on. she has to read the writing on the wall and it's over. larry: i actually, monica, it is over but, monica, i haven't heard much from haley this week, haven't heard much. there was a little flury after new hampshire. she was very defensive.
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kim strassel wrote an article saying we don't know what she is running on. that is kind of chink in "the wall street journal" armor. do you think we'll get a hint of politicians. >> they say no, no, until the time they say yes i'm pulling out? >> she has been campaigning in her home state of south carolina but all the polls show donald trump dominating her like 60, even 70 points in her home state. so look she has a lot of money still coming in from big donors. in fact, i'm sitting here in west palm beach and joe biden is in palm beach. now president trump is not here today but i was hoping that joe biden would be in palm beach to make a trip to mar-a-lago to apologize to donald trump. larry: yes of course. >> but that is not the case. larry: oh, no. >> nikki haley is also in
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south florida raising money but she is raising money from barack obama donors, big democratic donors. so they're the ones keeping her campaign alive, breathing air into it with real money bus they're still hoping for a trump alternative but i have news for them, donald trump is going to be the nominee and likely the next president of the united states. larry: they're going to sit down, i love this nikki haley, joe biden, and donald trump going to sit down and have some chocolate cake dessert at mar-a-lago, trump's favorite dessert. he had it with xi xinping, a bunch of years ago on the night that he bombed syria, bombed the hell out of syria. alex marlow, let me just ask you, one thing out there, machine ballots and harvesting, okay? this is the democratic specialty, specialty -- let me get my french write. it is specialty of the house.
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democrats, machine ballot, and harvesting what do you make of this? this to me is still a huge election threat. you get the last word. >> absolutely, larry. my latest story on "breitbart" dot-com, comprehensive story of about ballot harvesting in recent elections. how democrats will use it again. they will use every excuse they can to make the rules as lax as possible. last thing i say, nikki haley donorsing trying to leverage stuff, trying to get out of trump if trump wins. that is what is going on out there. that is why she should drop out as soon as possible. larry: that's a good point. that is a very good point. thanks everybody, alex marlow, caroline downey, monica crowley. she was babysitting he so i'm not lonely. joe biden said he made up his mind retaliating against iran's fatal attack against our troops. we'll talk about next up when "kudlow" returns. what is bide inch going to do? i hope it is tough, tough,
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latest. what is the latest, edward? >> reporter: the answer may be soon. president biden did say he decided on a response to that attack that killed three american troops as well as injured 40 other people but he won't tell us what it is. secretary of state antony blinken says this will be a multilevel response it will come in stages and will be sustained but they won't say exactly what this response is. the administration says iranian-backed proxies attacked u.s. positions at least 166 times since october 17th. republicans say this administration gave iran a pass and this is the result. >> the obama-biden foreign policy has been one of appeasement and conciliation. we have to totally reverse that policy, starting with retaliatory strikes right now and continuing beyond that, to insure that we're no longer trying to bribe the ayatollahs with billions of dollars, we're not looking the other way whenever they cheat on sanctions. >> reporter: three american heroes that dade in the attack in jordan, sergeant william
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rivers, specialist kennedy sanders and specialist bid anna moffitt. president biden will go to dignified return of remains in dover delaware. he was in southern florida at two campaign events. he is currently at the second event. he ignored sanctions against iran which backed proxies no change there. president splitting hairs if he blames iran for death of american troops. >> responsible for the death of those three americans? president biden: i do hold them responsible in the sense that they're supplying the weapons to the people who did it. >> reporter: attacks in the past what will be different this time? president biden: we'll see. >> reporter: yeah again, going after weapons. he holds them responsible for the weapons, not the act itself. we'll have to see, iranians as you know back all these proxies which are launching these attacks, larry. larry: edward lawrence, i love
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