wait with that dividend. jack, you're focusing on dividends. why not going with something like the utilities? they have not been great performers but their dividends are bigger? >> yeah. so here the theme here isn't so much dividend-payers like the utilities but the dividend growers because the reason is utilities and a lot of the big payers have been bond substitutes and in an environment where rates are really, really low that makes sense but when bonds can actually offer you decent yield, bond substitutes aren't quite as great. [closing bell rings] liz: jack, love the idea. very interesting to have you especially with that very, you know, focused perspective. we are so close to hitting the s&p 5000, not there. too close to call. see you tomorrow. we'll see if it happens. larry: >> hello, everyone, welcome to a

special edition of "kudlow," i'm david asman in for larry kudlow. well the bipartisan border security deal failing to advance in the senate in just the last hour. the final vote was 49-50. at least 60 votes were needed for it to move forward. it got nowhere near that. so what comes next? senate majority leader chuck schumer is now bringing a stand-alone foreign aid package without any border security in it to the floor for a vote. grady trimble is live in d.c. with the details. hey, grady. >> reporter: hey, david. senators are voting on that second bill right now as we speak. in fact it is possible it could wrap any minute. it is getting a little bit closer than the previous vote to that 60-vote threshold. as we speak it's at 56 yes votes. so only four more and they can open it up for debate. to back things up how we got here, the senate shot down the border deal which included aid

for ukraine and israel, with final vote 49 yes, 50 no. as you said the senate needed 60 to open up for debate. the second vote is going on h live on your screen right now. what senate majority leader chuck schumer has done essentially stripped out the border component of the bill, left in the you international aid, around $60 billion for ukraine, 14 billion for israel and five billion dollars for the indo-pacific region. you can see there getting awfully close as we are still at 56 yes, 41 no. more republicans supporting this than the previous round of voting. at a press conference today house speaker mike johnson, he didn't rule out taking up aid for ukraine and israel in the house if this passes in the senate. house democrats blocked republicans stand alone aid package for israel last night. here's what johnson had to say about that. >> the president of the united

states threatened to veto own the israel funding package. chuck schumer then said that he would put a plaque aide up in the senate there is no reason whatsoever for them to object to the contents of that bill. they're doing it for political purposes. it is bad for national security. it's also terrible policy and terrible politics. >> reporter: a handful of senate floor. , on the border deal includes senator lisa murkowski, senator susan collins, senator mitt romney, some of the more moderate republicans and of course senator james lankford who worked hard for this deal to get done only for it all to fall

apart today. david: i'm curious do you know why sanders and warren are against the bill schumer is pushing? >> reporter: i would imagine it is something like they don't like the border provisions of the deal. republicans often accuse democrats of wanting open borders. maybe they thought some of the provisions go too far in tightening things up. i'm not exactly sure. david: i suspect some had to do with israel as well, their well-known stance against that. grady, appreciate the report. for more on all of this, let's bring in south carolina senator tim scott. thank you for being here. >> absolutely. david: let's start with the immigration bill if we can. i want to play a little sound bite that i am sure you heard, this is president biden's pitch about the border bill before it failed. roll tape. president biden: every day between now and november the american people will know that the only reason the border is not secure is donald trump and

his maga republican friends. david: hardly needs to be pointed out at this point but we'll do so anyway how distorted the numbers are. just put up the numbers if you can. border crossings under trump and border crossings under biden, just dramatically different, fourfold increase under president biden compared to president trump. there you have 547 in 2020. that was, 547,000 in 2020 under trump. 3,000,260 in 2023 under biden. it's clear trump did close the border to a large extent. >> absolutely. david: just as clear that biden opened up the border all without any bills, all under executive orders, right? >> well, david you hit the nail on the head. bottom line since october we've seen more than a million people cross our border illegally. 85% at least let into our country. why is that happening? it is not because the president

cannot act. you just stated it so clearly. under president trump we had a close and secure border by and large. under joe biden he wants an open, porous, southern border because they want more voters. they're not trying to secure our southern border. they are not trying to protect the american people. they are simply letting the greatest invasion in american history by the time we get to the election, 10 million illegal immigrants crossing our southern border for one reason. it is what they want. any decision they make between now and the election is political posturing. joe biden could have closed the border or frankly kept the border closed when he came into office. he actually used a pen and paper to reverse the decisions of protecting americans from fentanyl, from the cartels, from sleeper cells and from 10 million people. we don't know where they are, what they want but they're not here just because they want

jobs. not all of them. david: your colleague, senator cruz was on with "hannity" last night. he said the senate bill was actually designed to keep the border open. now a lot of people would disagree with that. would you go that far? >> i would simply say this, that without question, when you read the legislation, the one thing that is clear it allows up to 5,000 people a day, with a seven-day rolling number, that is 35,000 a week, 1.8 million a year. we should not pass legislation that allows nearly 1.8 million people into the country illegally. we should not pass legislation that allows for catch-and-release to be codified as the law of our country. we certainly should not allow people into the country and give them work permits when it will only stifle opportunities for americans who are today, working paycheck to paycheck.

david: work permits. a lot of money for ngos and sanctuary cities. >> yes. david: which act as a draw for a lot of the migrants who come in here but a lot of people who have been behind the donald trump on border issues, like the border patrol were in favor. he called, brandon judd who is head of union border patrol, call them the poison pill aspects of the bill. he said they could be removed under discussion between the senate and house. let me play a sound bite and get your reaction to it. roll tape. >> many tools in this bill that are good. i understand there are poison pills as well, but get rid of poison pills. >> what are the poison pills? >> funding for ngos. funding for sanctuary cities like new york city. there are those poison pills, get rid of those through the amendment process but keep all that is good. david: he voted for donald trump. his membership voted for

donald trump in two elections. do you think it's possible that there might be still, might be some deal if you take away those horrific elements of the bill? >> well, david first thing we should do is thank mr. judd and every single border patrol agent on the job, doing their job, trying to keep americans safe. yes, 5000 is better than 10,000. it is still unsafe, insecure, wide open border. in the end what we need to do is what i suggested when we look at 87,000 new irs agents brought to us by joe biden. let's take resources $42 billion of it, and give it to the border patrol agents so they can hire more people, have better overtime and frankly have a better quality of life while protecting america's border. david: it is tough duty. >> there is a way for us to address the concerns of mr. judd and we should but we should not pretend that legislation is necessary. joe biden wants an open border. david: i want to switch gears and ask you about some very

disturbing information that has come out of the treasury department about how they have been essentially surveilling bank transactions that u.s. citizens have been making, really getting into the nitty-gritty details. again perhaps has to do with their obsession about january 6, whether you bought something at dick's sporting goods store the day before the riots on january 6th et cetera, whatever reason it disturb as lot of americans. you actually have the treasury secretary before the banking committee which you're a member tomorrow, what are you going to ask her about this? >> i will certainly ask her about the fincen actually spying on americans by using key words. what it does, it allows the treasury to take a look at folks like me who would buy a bible or go to bass pro shop. we have seen this before. under president obama we saw the irs targeting religious groups,

jewish groups as well as conservative groups. what we cannot have is the government weaponized in the department of treasury, weaponized against conservatives fill positive i cannily or religious organizations. that is just dead wrong. i will do my best to hold secretary yellen accountable what she oversees which include fincen where this is happening. larry: traditional catholics they are on the bad list as well, traditional catholics. >> yes. larry: i want to ask whether this new bill just about foreign policy, whether you vote in favor of it, foreign money for israel, for what's happening in the ukraine, what do you think of that stand alone foreign policy bill? >> david, i voted no already a few minutes ago. david: okay. >> here is the reason why. unfortunately what this administration, chuck schumer, are doing, using the crisis in israel to support other priorities of the party.

we should first secure our southern border. second, provide resources to israel. third, take a look at indough pacific. fourth make sure we have accountability woven into any resources that we give to ukraine. without doing those four things in succession it will be hard for republicans to support it. david: very quickly, i'm way over time, if you're asked by donald trump to be his vice presidential candidate would you accept? >> i accept the responsibility of making sure that america gets four more years of donald trump because we were better off with trump. i'm not going to worry about what happens with me. if we focus on four more years of trump we get low inflation, low unemployment and high enthusiasm. david: senator tim scott, always a pleasure to see you, sir, always appreciate it. >> thank you, david. david: coming up joe biden's epa is rolling out new environmental standards targeting manufacturing we'll talk about it and economic impact of it

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manufacturing whose representatives are warning of economic devastation. gerri willis has the details on this. hey, gerri. >> reporter: that's right, david. new epa rules written to get rid of the skies of soot will have dangerous. so says the sags of manufacturers and others. epa said the new rules will save lives, preventing 4500 premature deaths and 2000 lost work days. they say 46 billion will be saved -- soot in the air, things like wildfires and road dust. one study of tighter rules regarding soot showed more restrictive regulations, well they could threatens a much as $197 billion in economic activity and put more than 800,000 jobs at risk. the american petroleum institute describing today's announcement

as lacking scientific basis and prioritizing foreign energy and manufacturing over domestic sources. the epa intends to limited particulate matter, soot, in the air to levels lower than virtually every does industrialized economy. nine micrograms down to 12. the standard in china, you guessed it 35 micrograms per cubic meter. back to you. david: gerri, thank you very much for that. let's bring in former epa administrator andrew wheeler. thanks for being here. >> thank you. david: we all want cleaner air, there is no question about it. which have it largely thanks to natural gas about which we'll talk in a moment but do these new regulations, are they actually necessary? >> epa is required to review the standards every five years although they have been late almost every time.

when i was epa administrator i set the agency on a pathway to review them within the five-year statutory mandates. so the the eepa was required to review them. the question whether not they needed to be changed. the 12 micrograms was set by the obama administration. when i was epa administrator i look at the science and my team and outside science experts i decided to keep the obama regulations in place, the 12 micrograms. now epa is going lower, but i think what is lost, is lost in the discussion our air is the cleanest for industrialized nations around the world. we have the cleanest air in the world. air has gotten 40% cleaner the last 24 years. david: during that time our economy has grown tremendously. since 2000 the u.s. gross domestic product has increased by 452%. we've been lowering the concentrations by 42% during the

same time. there have been regs come in, epa regs helped lower that but a lot were decisions apart from what the epa was doing, right? >> correct. and the epa when they estimate the benefits they're actually double counting because there are a number of other regulations that also reduce the particulate matter. the auto standards, the power plant standards. so a a particulate matter is going down because of a host of regulations and they're tightening it down even more. what that means the sources that can make further reductions are very limited there are very few places they can go to get more reductions. so when the u.s. chamber, association of manufacturers this will hurt permitting of new facilities this is absolutely correct. it will be very hard to get a new permit. i believe it is over 550 counties will be non-attainment under the new standard.

it will be almost impossible to get a new permit in one of those counties. david: i know that is a lot of people. i don't know if you bothered to add up but that is several million people. >> it is. david: natural gas has a lot to do with the air being cleaner, at this point, despite that, the biden administration kind of caved to the far left evironmentalists in these new rules about lng, liquified natural gas exports which they're putting a pause on those exports. what do you make of this pause? >> well it's really disturbing. because energy is at the heart of so many global conflicts around the world and we can be energy dominant. we can be providing lng to our allies in europe so they will be become less dependent on russian natural gas and natural gas from other parts of the world and oil from the middle east. we could be providing that not only to american citizens here but to our allies around the

world so by pausing those lng exports it's really going to hurt our allies. david: yeah. >> there is no sense in it. it doesn't make any sense. david: our allies and our workforce frankly. there are a lot of, a lot of lng tankers just waiting to go, god knows how much longer this pause is going to take. david: andrew wheeler, thanks very much for being here. >> thank you, sir. david: coming up democrats are blaming disinformation for joe biden losing support among black and hispanic voters. really? we'll be discussing that with michigan congressman john james coming up. plus donald trump won the nevada primary without even appearing on on the ballot last night. so why is nikki haley still in the race? charlie hurt and katie pavlich on that coming next. ♪.

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ahead of sunday's super bowl. fox news's peter doocy is live at the white house with more. peter, the thing that nobody understands, this is the most softball interview probably any president at anytime could get, right? this is not like he would be facing a hostile, a lot of hostile questions? >> reporter: well it depends who the network sends but officials here at the white house are betting they can reach more persuadable voters in an election year doing things like podcasts and with social media posts that are very carefully owed didded a than doing an interview during the highest rated block ther. >> >> the viewers tune in to watch the game. the president will find many other ways to communicate with americans, the millions of americans out there and we will find those ways to do it where we think the time is right. >> reporter: well as three quarters of americans polled by nbc expressed concerns about

either president biden's mental or physical health he is becoming less and less visible. even fewer public events here after the white house. maybe that will change, even though there is nothing on the schedule he claimed that he couldn't take questions yesterday because he is going to answer them all tomorrow. >> like any update on the press conference tomorrow. >> stay tuned. >> we are. stay tuned. >> reporter: somebody joked during the press briefing yesterday that stay tuned sounds like karine jean-pierre for no. she insisted that it was not but regardless, president biden isn't doing anything on camera today. a bunch of closed-door fund-raisers all in new york city. if you were wondering why the traffic is so bad. david: it usually is thieves days. peter, thank you very much. for more on president biden's re-election struggles, let's bring in michigan congressman john james. great to see you, congressman. thanks for being here. i want to start with an extraordinary poll that was released today, a "gallup poll,"

pretty well-considered, about minority, the bates of -- base of the democratic party, blew come lower workers, blacks and hispanics are turning to republicans much more frequently than they have have before. the headline of the "gallup poll" piece, democrats lose ground with hispanics and blacks. this is much worse than it has ever been for the democratic party before. why is it that blacks and hispanicss in greater numbers now are leaving the democratic party and choosing republicans? >> well the reason is simple, because bad policies for blacks, hispanics are bad policy for all americans and this administration is replete with terrible policies. policies that send our jobs from the united states to mexico and china. policies that take power away from parents to make decisions about their own children.

policies that pit americans against each other rather than bringing us together. i believe that these are manifestations we begin to care about because frankly democrats know they will not experience success at the polls if they do not have young voters, black voters and hispanics. since the last election, joe biden has hemorrhaged 24 points from african-american voters down to 63%. one in five of those black voters say they're voting for a third party candidate and trump is leading by four and five points amongst youth voters. voters below 35 years old and also hispanic voters respectively. they have a long way to go but we are providing alternatives, food strong policies that will make our, that will make our economy stronger, our border stronger and our world safer place. david: you know we got confirmation of the economic points you were making from an unusual source, from msnbc, which is not known to dump on democrats by any stretch. they went into a barbershop in south carolina and got an interesting viewpoint with

regard to president biden and president trump on their affects on the economic, the economic part of their lives. let me just roll that, get your, get your take on it. roll tape. >> trump is kind of all we know and trump and biden, they're like, well, we were broke with biden. we weren't with trump. and that's kind of the only thing that i'm hearing over and over again, over and over again, with trump we had money. david: we're broke with biden. we weren't with trump. i mean is it that simple? >> it's that simple. it is the economy stupid, right? we heard it a million times. trump got 6% of the vote in 2016 amongst african-americans. got 12% of the vote in 2020 amongst african-americans. right now he is polling into the low, high teens and low 20s. because democrats are in denial. they're calling it disinformation. it is disrespectful. the truth is not what the government tells you it is.

david: yes. >> what i've been saying up and down good policy postively affects us all but has disproportionate effect on african-americans. because we always have pain that seems more acute, more chronic than anyone else. we need a good strong, conservative policy that makes sure rising tide lifts more ships. that is putting money into all of americans pockets. david: it is different from that in the sense which is the migrant problem, the migrant crisis, if you will. a lot of problems in black communities and hispanic communities where it seems that the government is kind of more and more whether it's federal government other local government, kind of dumping the problem in the laps of minority communities. you see a lot of protests from communities in chicago. we had a lot of protests in roxbury, outside of boston recently saying it's our community centers, not the wealthy white people in wellesley that are getting hit hardest by this crisis. that must have a part to do with it as well, no?

>> look, there are immigrants who have come here the right way, waited five, 10, 15 years to immigrate the right way. there is a deep sense of resentment of communities like mine, the 10th congressional district, deep resentment of african-americans, people who built this nation for free over 400 years. now you have illegal immigrants getting compensation in excess of snap benefits? david: right. >> in excess of people who are working hard and still falling behind? no. this administration's policies along illegal immigration must be reversed which is why we must pass hr.2. why we need to create policies that help everyone, regardless of race, color, creed to achieve the american dream. david: hispanic community reaction is tremendous, because it's actually the opposite of what a lot of democrats who were pushing for open borders expected. i have an immigrant wife who came here, worked hard to first get a green card.

worked even harder to become a u.s. citizen, as did her son, my stepson and there is a lot of resent meant for people who are jump aning the line, millions of migrants who are jumping the line thanks to biden's open border position? >> you know we are a nation of immigrants. we're also a nation of laws. let me get this straight, legal immigration is an economic and moral imperative for the united states of america. people like your wife doing it the right way but border security is national security and which have to make sure that we enforce our borders to keep our nation safe. we have all the opportunity to do that and i believe that when we have that, then everybody is going to be more satisfied because we'll have order in the government. right now the cartels control our border there is no order. we need to retain that order and we need to make sure we show people who have been here, who have been working, doing it the right way, have a pathway to achieving the american dream. david: there is another constituency, this is the final question, that is very ticked off at what's happening. that's union members who democrats used to count on and

yet the union leadership takes kind of a different position. we had on the air a couple days ago, shawn fain, head of uaw, united auto workers union, a lot of what biden is doing, with ev, pushing the ev mandates is against the interest of auto workers. here is what shawn fain had to say about that on fox. roll tape. >> let me be clear about this, a great majority of our members will not vote for president biden. yes, some will but that's the reality of this. david: i'm wondering why is the leaders, same is true with the teamsters, teamster leader, sean o'brien, says he favors the open border policy of the president. his members are worried about all the illegal truckers coming across the border. there is a divide between the leadership which sided with the democratic party and the members who are more for trump now? >> yeah.

legal immigration is an economic imperative as i said but illegal immigration actually threatens the livelihoods of union workers and they know that. when you look at the rights being infringed by this administration, union workers know that. we just had a part, a piece looking at epa final rule, that is actually going to contribute to hurting the automotive industry. i represent the 10th congressional district in michigan, the number one manufacturing district in the entire nation and automotive, is what we do. aerospace and defense. we've seen our jobs leave the state and our country must end. additional penalties from the federal government will do from nhtsa and the epa, push jobs to china. grow china's middle class on the backs of ours. we cannot allow that to happen. joe biden's policies are crushing the middle class, and crushing american auto workers and i will not let that happen. david: congressman john james, what a pleasure to talk to you,

thanks for being here. appreciate it. joining me now, charlie hurt, "washington times" opinion editor, fox news contributor, and katie pavlich, townhall.com editor and fox news contributor. great to see you. what we're seeing here is historic reorientation of democratic base, whether talking about minority communities, blue collar base, basically blue-collar workers seem to find more in common with donald trump than they do with joe biden and rest of the democratic party, no? >> i think you're exactly right that was fascinating illuminating interview you did with congressman james. you put your finger on the most important point of it. so many do-gooder or allegedly do-gooder policies, i doesn't think they are do-gooder policies. they're all policies designed to get they are the political fortunes of the democrat party, so many things like illegal immigration, wind up pounding minority communities or less

affluent communities the hardest. and, then, on top of that, i think the other thing that is real interesting here, is that because you know, younger voters, let's say who have been around for the past four or eight years and thinking sort of in terms of politics and voting, meaning 18 to 26 or something, they have lived under two presidents. david: yeah. >> they have lived under donald trump and joe biden. david: right. >> and the difference between the two could not be clearer. david: right. katie, then you have this woke business that is still being pushed by the democrat party all over the place. and all over the place americans are rejecting it. it is a small minority that's pushing it and that minority are the elite. they're the ones that control the democratic party. they're the ones that are really into making these deals with special interest groups, whether it's the ivy league colleges or these corporate dei departments

and everything that americans, particularly that base again, i think of the latin americans in particular, they don't want a woke world, the kind of woke world that is represented by dei? >> well, yeah and wokism is something that sounds really great, the outcome of equity seems like a good idea but when you put these things in practice it is actually opposite especially what young people want to do with their lives and the way they view their fellow citizens and man. wokism requires you discriminate against folks whether dei or other factors t hurts creativity and individualism working hard and ahead on merit simply who you were born as rather than what you want to be what your goals and dreams may be based on hard work getting to another level. that is being rejected on a wide scale by voters but also because a lot of these companies are getting sued because dei is a

violation of the civil rights act and finally there are some lawyers taking up these cases, no, no, this is going up against everything this country has been fighting for. you can't institute discrimination while claiming to fight against discrimination. david: charlie, look at raw politics here, what happened in nevada. nikki haley ran behind none of these candidates, none of the above. she got 30% of the vote and donald trump wasn't running there. there were a bunch of other candidates including nikki. none of the others were trump. that 62.3% who said none of these candidates were trump voters right? >> i would like to begin by saying both to you, david, and both to you, katie, congratulations because you both beat nikki haley in nevada last night. i'm still waiting myself to get a concession call from her since apparently i beat her too. it really is extraordinary. she apparently is a glutton for humiliation but she wants to go

on and go to south carolina. i don't know how she is going to you know, if you look at the numbers now, it is hard to see how she will do much better. it is really hard to see how, what the future holds for her if she goes on to get beat own, after getting beaten double digits by none of the above, goes to her home state and gets beaten by double digits there. i don't, i don't know where, what the future holds for her unless she wants to go with some no labels third party thing in an effort to hurt trump. i don't think that it will hurt trump. >> she is bragging $1.7 million in california. >> all about money. david: tonight she is in hollywood preparing for the super tuesday where there are a lot -- that is after, two weeks after south carolina. meanwhile, katie, we have, we're going to have a new head of the republican party, ronna mcdaniel stepping down. who do you think that is going

to be? >> there has been a couple of names floated. ii want to address real quickly the nikki haley south carolina situation, everyone is asking where is she going from here. david: sure. >> the campaign based on what they have said, since we're looking for some strategy, they leapfrogged to super tuesday as you mentioned based on the fact that there are 874 delegates. they think 2/3, or a fact that 2/3 of those primaries are open or semiopen primaries. which means independents or democrats can vote in the primaries for her as long as they have met some kind of standard for changing their still ages. sometimes you can just vote in them that is the strategy. they say there is fertile ground moving forward for her in places like massachusetts, maine. they're banking on her to kind of get her over the edge with these independent votes which aren't clearly coming if you look from the results from the primary last night which they say, in terms of rnc,. david: yeah who do you think the

head of rnc will be? >> we don't have any official names yet. kevin mccarthy was floated as a dark horse name yesterday, former speaker of the house but given the good reporting in red state by jen, looks like ronna mcdaniel is on the way out. david: you have five seconds charlie, who do you think it will be. >> i'm with katie i have no idea. i particularly enjoy the kevin mccarthy they're riff. he would be good at it by the way. david: thank you, charlie, katie. coming up a u.s. base in jordan hit by iran backed militias had minimal air defenses. how is that even possible? lieutenant-general keith kellogg and kash patel will weigh in on that coming next

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national intelligence and author of government gangsters. thanks for being here. general kellogg, either minimal defense or no defense at all how one of the soldiers on site described it. you're response. i'm outraged to hear there was no responses. they must have known they were a target and they had no defenses against it? >> yeah, david, thanks for having me. i heard two different reports. one i heard they had a radar system, tps-75, that was down 80% of the time. second they had a system called coyote, anti-uas, around at this drone system that was in place there. here what needs to be done, military used to be, used to be riley good at what is called after action reviews. they need to bring the commanders in, they need to tell everybody to include the american people what kind of defenses do we have in those facilities and how do we prevent these attacks from occurring again because there is a lot of questions now coming up, what

was actually there? i think it's fair since we lost three great americans how are we actually defending those sites? and i think everybody should have a little bit of a concern now because drone warfare is now something that is relatively new to this theater, new to the united states, meaning new in the last few years but it is the wave of the future. we better be prepared for encountering drone technology, let's find out what is actually happening what is occurring or what didn't happen. david: yeah. >> right now i would say you guys need to investigate it, come back to the american people, come back to congress, say this happened, this didn't happen. oh, by the way one key word, accountability. who is accountable for isn't. david: there is not a lot of accountability with this administration. kash, that is the point. i know the whole drone technology is new. i know a full review hasn't been done but it does seem emblematic of the way this administration, particularly our defenses has been operating under this administration, isn't that fair? >> you're absolutely right and putting aside why there's a base

of any kind in jordan, that is a valid question many folks are also having, our bases come in different shapes and sizes as keith is well aware of. what was the defense structure and why wasn't it prepare raft. but from a intelligence operation, whether biden administration deprioritizes safety ever american soldiers care more about inclusion, equity than terror in iran, you take the target set, shift it to the left. these guys come in on the right with drone attacks. donald trump prioritized these specific target threat, not only to neutralize the enemy but safeguard our soldiers downrange. joe biden is not doing that on any front. david: general, we're getting word of new strikes against iran -backed forces in iraq. we have not seen any attacks against iran.

it doesn't have to be in iran. the iranian spy ship directing houthi rebels to target various cargo ships, why didn't we take that out? >> david, great question. here is an interesting corollary. the fact we attacked a hezbollah individual killed a leader because they attacked in jordan, that actually occurred in jordan and the leader was there in baghdad. go back a few years. we had an attack on the american embassy in baghdad led by khatib hezbollah. what did president trump do? he went and killed soleimani an iranian, a three-star general. you look at the level of response is quite different than what they did. david: yeah. >> you asked a great question. i think it is a lack of strategic sense and actually they're in a world of risk avoidance. there are plenty of target out there that can send a clear message to iran. one as you said the basha. did, which is the spy ship sitting in the red sea dish. david: it was a sitting duck. it was a sitting duck. its with the most direct

connection between iran and their proxies that are attacking u.s. forces i could possibly imagine that would have been the perfect target. it leaves me, kash, final question to you, we have only 20 seconds for it, but this connection between john kerry and the iranians diplomatically, this u.s. envoy to iran, rob malley who was dismissed or at least suspended with his connections to iran could that have anything to do with it? they're using all of their cash to build up their nuclear, to try to attain a nuclear arsenal, quickly. >> absolutely. these guys are the authors and architects of the iran deal. they want to bend the knee to the ayatollahs of the iran and want to use fake diplomacy to win because the mainstream media wants to reward them for it. these terrorists understand one thing, fear one thing, donald trump the strength of his resolve the countyter terrorism programs keith and i led in that administration. that's what you got to do. david: we have to leave it there, general men.

thanks so much. kash patel and general can lowing, thanks for your service. we appreciate it greatly. more "kudlow" coming (vo) sail through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking. exploring the world in comfort.

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