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against alejandro mayorkas after a vote failed last night. three republicans joined democrats in voting against impeachment with congressman blake moore changing his vote at the last minute for procedural reasons. so can republican leadership get the support? with me now is congressman jeff van drew. congressman, good to see you. so you voted to impeach if mayorkas. do you think you and your colleagues are going to get those three votes back? >> we'll get them back because understand that blake moore will vote to impeachment he only had to do what he needed to do so he can bring this up. it's a complicated mechanism, but bring with it up again. and he did the right thing so that we can be sure to impeach hem next week. here's the deal, steve scalise will be a yes vote for impeachment, and he has been getting some treatment back home in louisiana. he will be back. of he's doing well. he's fine. and he's going to be there, and he's going to be voting for impeachment. blake moore will, and we will have the votes we need.

we always knew it was going to be a razor thin majority. we always knew it was going to be tight. we can do this, and it's the right thing to do. alejandro mayorkas has failed in his duties. brian: let me ask you this, one of your colleagues who voted against the impeachment, wisconsin's mike gallagher, he released an op-ed e in the "wall street journal" where he said, quote: impeachment not only would fail to resoever the border crisis, but i would also set a dangerous new precedent. what's a your reaction to that? >> well, i would hope that any future republican administration if would never have anybody who didn't fulfill the obligations of the constitution of the united states, who didn't fulfill the obligations when he was sworn into office, alejandro mayorkas, that is, and swore to protect the american people, to protect our country. this is an invasion. our borders are open. it is dangerous. he has done this purposefully and willfully, and with due

respect to my colleague, michael gallagher, he's a good man, but i disagree with him thoroughly on this issue. we've never if seen anyone in my mind in an official capacity do what a alejandro major has has done. he deserves to be impeached. we can't let it slide. brian: president biden in new york city today for a campaign event as his border policies impact the crime crisis. a grand jury indicted one suspect in the brutal beating of nypd officers, and the search is still ongoing for several other suspects, but even new york democrat governor kathy hochul says the crimes were bail-eligible, and all suspects should have been held. now, another shocking attack by an illegal migrant, this time at the long island home of a jewish family. self-described palestinian from northern africa who crossed the border illegally was captured on doorbell footage stealing a pro-israel flag. the homeowner claims when he

confronted the migrant, the migrant immediately began punching him and put him in a chokehold. he struck a similar pose to one of the illegals arrested for the nypd attack. you can see it there. congressman, this looks like a really grotesque new trend. what do you make of it? if. >> well, what i make of it is what did you think was going to happen? it's great for kathy hochul to say what she's saying now, but those aral a gater tears to me -- are alligator tears. those who supported downgrading felonies to misdemeanors, those who supported this new system of justice, now they see what the result of it is. we knew this all along. we knew this was going to happen. we are going to pay for illegal immigration for generations to come. it's going to hurt the united states of america. it already has. and let me say this, there are two images that stick in my mind. one of them is when, you know, joe biden and his administration

was elected, and there were all those the illegals at the border with joe biden t-shirts on ready to the come over. and the second image is after these individuals beat these police officers and they were immediately, most of them, actually released, and when they were released after their arraignment, one of them just looked at the cameras and put up his middle finger to america. brian: right. >> that's what i remember. brian: yeah, absolutely. and as you say, that middle finger to america, to me, seems like they feel like they're in the dreier's seat right now -- driver's seat. congressman, we've got to leave it there. thank you for your thoughts on this. >> thank you. brian: turning to the other side of the hill, the senate failed to pass a test vote on their border bill today after a republicans slammed the bill as bad for american business. grady trimble live from washington, d.c. with the details. hey, grady. >> reporter: hey, brian with. that border bill is a bust. it needed 60 votes for the nat

to open it up for debate. it only got 49 yes votes. and so, essentially, what senate majority leader chuck schumer has a done and what's happening right now is he's stripped out the border component of the bill and left in the aid for ukraine and israel. i do want to correct one technicality that i reported a last hour. the vote that's going on right now in the senate only needs a simple majority. so if this procedural vote were to pass right -- or were to close right now, it would pass. but ultimately, it would need that 60-vote threshold to break a filibuster, and it's not clear it would get that, and that's what republicans are trying to figure out behind closed doors right now. if it does ultimately pass the senate though, house speaker mike johnson did not rule out fake taking it up in the -- taking it up in the house. >> we'll see what the senate does. we're allowing the process to play out, and we'll handle it as it it is sent over. i have made very clear that you have to address these issues on

their own merits. israel desperately needs the assistance. >> reporter: president biden is reacting to the border deal falling apart. behind closed doors at a fundraiser in new york this afternoon, biden blamed former president donald trump for calling lawmakers, in his words, and threatening them with retribution if they vote for the border bill. but here is senator tim scott explaining the problems he and his republican colleagues had with it. >> we should not pass legislation that allows merely 1.8 million people into the country illegally. we should not pass legislation that that allows for catch and and release to be codified as the law of our country. >> reporter: and a handful of moderate republicans did vote for that border deal including senators lisa murkowski, susan collins and mitt romney, and,, of course, senator james lankford who was the top negotiator for the republicans who put this deal together and now, of course, brian, it has

all unraveled. brian? if. brian: grady, thank you for the latest on that. with me now from the senate homeland security committee is senator ron johnson. senator, good to see you. you've been an outspoke opinion opponent of this bill from the outset -- opponent of this bill. looks like it's falling apart. is it completely irredeemable, in your view? >> oh, i think so. you know, first of all, you have to understand that presidents have an enormous amount of discretion when it comes to border security. president trump used that executive authority, and and he closed the border using existing laws. president biden came into office, used that same authority and discretion to open up the border. and, of course, the fatal flaw of these secret negotiations on an issue that the american people support republicans on, we never should have entered secret negotiations. there should have been a public debate. but the fatal flaw is that democrats, president biden want an open border. they caused this problem.

they weren't negotiating to secure the border, they were negotiating for political cover. and the bill reflects that. it doesn't close the border. chris murphy even said that in a tweet. my biggest problem with that bill is when you set a 4,000-person per-day threshold to give a president the discretion to stop processing asylum claims, the president already has that ability. so you've basically taken away his statutory authority. and then you only give him that discretion for three years. so this would actually be worse than doing nothing, passing this bill. it would hamper and hinder a president who actually wants to secure the border in the future. brian: so president biden attempted to put the blame for the border crisis on congress and trump in a speech yesterday. take a look at a this. >> this happens every single, solitary year. >> we've dealt with this before with. it is often seasonal. it is often a cyclical. >> the border remains closed.

>> we have seen extreme progress over these last but months. >> what americans should know is that the president has done, has a done the work to deal with what we're seeing at border since day one. >> so you guys talk a lot, including today the, about how the border wouldn't be such a big deal if congress would have just passed your immigration bill on day one. who was in charge of congress on day one? >> so it's been three years. this is a difficult issue, obviously. this is a difficult issue. and and what we have said is that congress has to act, right? congress, democrats, republicans have to act. but in those three years, it is true that republicans have gotten in the way. brian: all right. so we had a little bit of a hodgepodge there of the video, but you saw the last piece where karine jean-pierre said republicans have gotten in the way. explain that one to me, senator.

>> i can't. again, i laid out the fact that president trump with, you know, facing resistance from the radical left, open border crowd still secured the border or using existing law. president biden opened up the border using his presidential authority and discretion. he caused this. he wants open borders. his democratic colleagues in congress want open borders. if so, again, it would be so much easier for a democrat president to use his existing authority because republicans wouldn't resist him. brian: right. >> you wouldn't have groups going to court to challenge every action he takes. we would actually help him overcome court challenges. pipe brian yep. >> again, it's just galling to listen the democrats lie through their teeth. certainly mislead the american public. they can secure the border. it should have been done three years ago. this is an invasion is. it's caused by joe biden. he is the root cause. and it's just galling to listen to him deny it and try to place

blame on republicans. nothing could be further from the truth. brian: so tell me about what can come next. i've got to tell you, i'm in a spot in new york city right now that is evidently a epicenter for migrants coming here and in many ways taking over the life of the neighborhood. so i look around and i say, by goodness sakes, i don't know who's to blame right now, but if we don't get something done, this is going to become catastrophic. quickly, what are you guys looking at? are you looking at maybe the house bill, something else to try to make some head away on in this year? >> we're trying to expose the truth to let the american public know that joe biden has the power to close the border today. if he needs additional authority, we're happy to give it to them. we're just not willing to pass a ruin goldberg piece of legislation that codifieses his open border, that normalizes thousands of illegal migrants a day, that opens up and continues to keep the open border. we want to close the border. joe biden has the authority to do it. the american people need to understand that and demand that

this president actually secure the border using his existing authority. brian: another year of what we have now would be devastating in so many ways. senator, thank you for your time today. we appreciate it. >> have a good day. brian: all right. still ahead, we have congressman james comer, former chief speech writer for president bush, bill mcgurn and gop strategist ford o'connell. the house oversight committee announce an investigation into former special climate envoy john kerry and his alleged ties to leftist environmental groups. former president trump, meanwhile, says bud light should be given a second chance after the dylan mulvaney if backlash. plus, former reagan economist art laffer is here on growing concerns that the biden administration is surveilling and censoring americans. and despite what the white house tries to say, voters are still suffering under bidenomics. all of that next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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no, questions about covid-19 in the vaccine -- and the vaccine. all this happens as a janet yellen confronted on whether the department used political search terms like maga or trump to surveil customers' private bank transactions as a part of an investigation into januaryth. if hillary vaughn on capitol hill with all the detailsful hillary? if. >> reporter: good evening, brian. treasury secretary janet yellen didn't deny this surveillance scheme by federal investigators to get banks to snoop on their customers' transactions as part of their investigation into january 6th. remember, fox digital exclusively reported the federal government basically profiled who they thought would be a person of interest, and it came down to people who love to shop at cabelas, dick sporting goods or bass pro shops, sounds a a lot like most americans. those were the red flags investigators wanted banks to look out f a sign they said snub could be a home grown violent ec

extremist. yellen didn't condition it but also didn't have much explanation either. >> well, we received a letter from you, i believe, on this topic, and we intend to investigate fully and and to respond. >> are you instructing banks, financial institutions to provide this information? >> look, fin-sen's job is to work with financial institutions to make sure -- >> are they instructing financial institutions to search americans' legal transactions in attempts to surveil their purchases? >> i, i promise a or thorough e look into everything -- >> reporter: so while the treasury secretary looks into this, the big question is how far did bankses go to hand over customer information and did it ever stop. brian? brian: hillary vaughn, thank you so much. finish well, for his take, let's welcome former reagan economist

art laffer. art, it's great to see you. i've got to ask you -- >> good to see you, brian. brian: -- about this yellen thing. this was a study in trying desperately to deny something, but at the end of the day not being able to do it. she can't deny that her department targeted, you know, your cabela's purchases. what do you think about this? >> well, let me just say just for background, brian, that i was with george schultz when he was, when he went from the director e of the office of management and budget to being secretary of the treasury, and i was with bill simon as well, two days a week with them. so when they took control of the treasury, they knew what was going on inside of the treasury, and they would never tolerate something like that happening. i could tell you all sorts of personal stories about that when there were hints made at doing manager like this and george said, don't, just do your job and that's it. don't do this. janet yellen is not in control of the treasury, she is not in control of these processes.

i would be absolutely flabbergasted if she really was complicit in doing this, but she doesn't know what's going on in the treasury -- brian: right. >> and she is a answering honestly there, but it's a tragic shame. the treasury should be impartial, unbiased and straight. all of that. and this appeared, this really is a very high smell on the treasury and should really not have happened. and i know what they tried to do. this is under the nixon administration and then under the ford administration where i was privy to all of this, and those people then would not have allowed it. and janet yellen should have been in charge and should not have allowed it and should have known about it. she didn't know about it, brian, and that's, that's scary. brian: i think that's a great point, great historical context. i want to go to the economy, art. fortune magazine reporting that despite the biden administration touting the economy, they're not convincing worried voters. and let me just give you, my theory is there's a sense of fragility. things might seem okay in ways, but it also seems like it could

fall apart in a second. what's your read on this? >> well, brian, you know, you're a professor, and what you have to look at is what are the things that people are concerned with. they're not concerned with inflation rates going up or down, they're concerned with price levels and what it costs to buying this. -- something. and that's a very different thing than inflation. inflation has been coming down, but prices are still going up. al bet -- albeit at a slower rate. what are they, about 18% since biden came into -- that's a tragedy. people are terrified by that. unemployment rates are very low, but people aren't so worried about that. what they're worried about is employment rates, and employment if rates are really, really, really low too because everyone has left the labor force because of all the big transfer payments that have been met there. gdp did grow at almost 3%. it was a nice if number for growth, but that's a not what they look at. what they look at is the level of production. we want to know how many goods and services we produce, and they don't understand this.

mortgage rates may be with coming down, but mortgage rates are high. brian: right. >> all of this stuff, they don't understand how to use economics, and that's just tragic. it's not a good economy, and the people are correct. brian: art a, what you're getting to is the issue of affordability. larry kudlow has been great on that. i know you've been great on it. and you're right, who cares about inflation rates ultimately when inflation has gone so high that the price level is where it is and you're looking at a cut of meat and you're saying, i still can't afford it. art, i gotta leave it there, sir. it's always good to see you. thanks for being with us. >> great to see you, brian. thank you for having me. brian: you bet, sir. all right, we have oversight chair james comer on two new investigations his committee launched today and former chief speech writer for george w. bush, or bill mcgurn is here on president biden saying it's all a sunshine and rainbows. he loves his vice president. all that next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ >> i love her.

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brian: president biden calling in the big guns to save his 2024 bid. the president's campaign reportedly looking at radio city music hall in new york city for their blockbuster rally with barack obama and bill clinton are. it's supposed to be next month, but one new york democrat admits the party is pretty unpopular here. >> the democratic brand is in trouble here, and we have to do a lot to overcome that. we have a problem with crime in new york city or had a problem with crime in new york city. it was effectively weaponized by the republicans. immigration's become a hot button issue here. joe biden is underwater here in my district but so is donald trump. they're both very, very unpopular candidates. brian: for more, let's welcome former chief speech writer for george george w. bush bill mcgurn. bill, good to see you.

>> hi, brian. brian: good to see you. the president is in new york city right now participating in three campaign receptions. my question on this is timing. it seems, it seems sort of early or almost desperate in a way, but what do you make of this? >> well, he's going to need money, and as -- even though many of the democrats are not that happy with him, new york is probably one of his strongest bases for raising money. so i think he has no choice. brian: okay. so according to gallup, i want to -- because i want to talk about more of the campaign issues. democrats have lost ground with black and hispanic adults, a key demographic that could have huge impacts for november. bill, this, to me, seems like a water shed sort of thing. we've been talking about it. but the question is how did it develop this year, and i'm curious to know what you think. >> well, i think, look, the

biden administration clearly views the people as not smart enough to appreciate all that joe biden's done for for them. but the people are look at higher food prices when they go into a kroger's or a stop and shop, and they know that they don't feel better off. the prices have stayed high even though the rate of inflation is going down. so i'm not sure he has many good issues. you have crime in new york city, you know, you have those migrants that beat up the cops and then fled. and they were let off by democratic prosecutor, right? not -- he didn't ask for bail. they look at the border and they see a mess, and they see ukraine and israel and so forth. i happen to agree with supporting ukraine. but what i'm astounding by --

astounded by is joe biden's failure to use the bully pulpit to sell his big issues. he tried it with bidenomics and it didn't -- but he's not using it on the border, he's not using it especially with ukraine and israel. i thinkable he would be helped by it. brian: yeah. he just hasn't -- he. a hasn't been great at the bully pulpit. i think that's part of the problem. he tried to sell bidenomics. nobody bought it. so it doesn't surprise me in some ways he wouldn't go back to it. but he did say last night at the white house that he loves his vice president, kamala harris. and that the administration couldn't do it without her. [laughter] he called her or a, quote, great leader. [laughter] of course, polling, bill, shows the american people believe otherwise emphatically. so it hooks to me like she's -- looks to me like she's coming along come hell or high water. but i've got to ask you politically for him, is that a good idea? >> yeah. i meaning historically we have

some prominent example ifs of people being betrayeded with a kiss. the more joe biden -- [laughter] praises kamala, the more i'd watch her back. that's one of their traps. they can't have him step down without put kamala in, and she's as unpopular as he is. look, i think his problem, you know, people talk about his communication, he stomach stumbles and so forth. -- he tumbles. people used to say that about reagan all the time, you know, that he bumbled, he forgot things. but reagan had great communication. he had policies. and i think the problem is the biden policies are not popular. the only issue that seems to be gaining traction for the democrats is abortion. and especially with suburban women. so you can bet that he's going to emphasize that. will that do the trick over everything else? i'm not so sure.

brian: yeah, it's a great point. and i've just got to say, you know, going back to where we started with this thing, the president in new york city fund raising. as somebody who lives in the city, and i know you understand this as well, it's a little bit insulting to watch him come here and raise money and avoid the places in the city where his policies have wreaked the most havoc, bill. to me, that youngs juxtaposition between asking for cash but not trying to address anything going on in this city that could be directly traced to his policies, to me, that is not going to play well this year. bill with, we appreciate -- >> [inaudible] brian: yeah. last word to you. >> i was going to say it's a big democratic failing. you have a democratic mayor criticizing biden on the border and all these issues, but he won't revoke the sanctuary city policies. brian: exactly. >> or lack of cooperation with i.c.e. so they don't want to talk about it except to ask for for more money. brian: exactly. and that is never going to work.

bill mcgurn, gotta leave it there. good to see you, sir. >> okay. thanks, brian. brian: yep. ♪ brian: >> the average american who's having difficulties, frankly, with food, gas and rent, with money going overseas. and to see this epic amount of resources being committed abroad to secure another country's border, i think there's a rightful demand that the we have proper accountability. brian: calls growing for more transparency on the united states' aid to ukraine in their war with russia. this as a house oversight and senator j.d. vance announced a probe into billions of dollars in u.s. taxpayer-funded ukraine assistance. joining me now to discuss is house oversight committee chairman james comer. sur, thanks for being with us. -- sir, thanks for being with us. i want to know more about this investigation and what you think you'll find through it. >> well, first of all, i appreciate senator vance. it's good to know there are some republican senators over there

that are concerned about where the american tax dollars in ukraine are actually going. he reached out to me because, obviously, we have subpoena power and we're using the subpoena power very efficiently to get information the american people deserve. we're very concerned about a where the money's going in ukraine. i can't think of a more unpopular issue with conservatives in america right now than sending any money to ukraine. and the first question every taxpayer with asks me is how do you know that money is being spent where it, where it's supposed to? and the answer is we don't. what we're trying to find out is where exactly the money went. and when ukraine or the u.s. pentagon says, well, it went for ammunition and humanitarian aid, that's not good enough. we want to see the receipts. we want to do an audit. we want to provide oversight to make sure that our tax dollars are going where the ukrainians say they are. brian: yeah. let me ask you about a related question because the house failed to pass an independent

spending bill on israel yesterday. so i've got to ask you, does that -- are we to read that as a lack of support first israel, or is there something else going on there? >> well, that vote required a two-thirds majority, so we needed democrat support for that to pass, the way that vote was presented procedurally. unfortunately, the democrats aren't going to support anything with respect to israel unless they can give money to pal tine as a well which is a no-go for republicans -- palestine. and a lot of democrats said, well, they wanted to give money to ukraine too. we need to see the receipts from where our money's going to ukraine. i support sending money to israel. that's about the only place in the world outside of america i support. and i think most of my republican colleagues are exactly where i am. we support israel. brian: yeah. >> but at the end of the day, ukraine -- until they provide receipts, i don't see any movement from the house republicans to give them another

penny. brian: i want to get you on this as well, sir. you also announced an investigation into former special climate enjoy john -- envoy john kerry's ties to leftist environmental groups. that'll be the least surprising thing, to me, in the world. but i wonder where it gets you. what -- if you can find these links, how does it change what's happening right now in terms of the environmental policy we're seeing? >> well, i think the american people need to know where these terrible vaunterral policies -- environmental policies are coming from. they're coming from these outside group, and i think the american people need to know who's funding these outside groups. we know that john kerry was communicating extensively with many of these soros-backed and other outside groups who we actually have no idea where their funding source comes from. i think this is concerning because i think every american would agree, as you mentioned in the segment before, the biden energy policy's not working. the american people aren't buying what joe biden and john

kerry are selling them with respect to oversight policy, and john kerry's been leading the climate agenda the for the biden administration for three years. we have no idea what authority he he had. he never had to go in front of the senate, he never had to explain what he did. this was a position that was created by joe biden. he put it at a cabinet-level position, but there was no congressional oversight of what he exactly did. brian: i've got to say, chairman, you're asking where money comes from and where it goes. i think those are good questions to ask for the american taxpayer. thanks for being with us today. good to see you. >> absolutely. thank you. brian: all right. we have energy pro if neil chatterjee on a watchdog group filing a freedom of information lawsuit against the biden white house alleging the administration failed to disclose special climate enenvoy john kerry, there he is again, taxpayer-funded staff. but first, let's check in with jackie deangelis in for dagen and sean to see what they have coming up next hour on "the

bottom line." jackie: hey, good friend, good to see you. and thank you so much is. we've got a big show tonight. sean: a big money show reunion here. the economy has some slight improvements. voters aren't feeling it. we have steve moore here on that as well as chuck schumer trying to pass a bill that's going to fund the ukraine, israel, taiwan but no border security. tommy tuberville to discuss. jackie: and monica crowley is here, we're talking about iran's nuclear program. it is on steroids. thanks, joe biden. she's going to sound off on that. and trump bump for bud light, is anheuser-busch going to get a second chance because president trump said so? trump said so? tomi lahren will be here. we'll see you soon.an ♪ t into freefall. i'm glad i found stability amidst it all. gold. standing the test of time.

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brian: special climate envoy is john kerry getting ready to leave his position in the white house, but an energy watchdog group won't let mihm go easily, filing a freedom of information lawsuit against the white house failing the administration failed to disclose kerry's taxpayer-funded staff. joining me now is former federal energy regulatory commission chair neil chatterjee. neecialtion i want to get you on this because taxpayers have been pick up the tab when it comes to john kerry. he allegedly has been using jets on that international climate

conference circuit that we all love for nearly three years. so i get going after him in terms of accountability, but i got that ask you, even if you pin him down for this stuff, what difference does it make in terms of the policy we're seeing? >> well, it sets the tone for the future. whoever succeeds him, john podesta, they're going to be held accountable. look, when i was serving as the chairman of the federal energy regulatory commission, everything i did was subject to the freedom of information act. i got foias, that's what i call them, my phone records, my e-mails, my texts, and it did impact behavior because you understand you're accountable to the public. and i think when these folks are acting if operating as if they are free from any statuteny, it does -- scrutiny, it does impact policy decisions. brian: all right. i want to turn to this, japanese car manufacturer toyota announcing they're investing $1.3 billion into a flagship plant here in kentucky where it

will manufacture new all-electric suvs. so, neil, what's interesting to me about this is toyota is the company that has said hybrids are really more of the solution than evs, and they've taken a lot of flak for that. they've also performed pretty well because they've made that bet. but now they're going ev in kentucky. what do you think they're doing here? >> look, on the one hand i'm a cayenne, so i'm for anything that leads to job creation in the bluegrass. but i think, you know, if toyota's making a diss decision here based on market factors, that's one thing. but if they're doing this because they think they're going to avail themselves of federal government tax credits, that's the wrong strategy. what these tax credits have shown is that they're meant to incentivize the purchase of electric vehicles, not necessarily the usage of electric vehicles. if toyota wants to sell cars, they need to make sure consumers want to buy them. look, i wouldn't mind buying one of these cool toyota the evs,

but i'm going to buy it if it makes sense for me, not because the government is trying to incentivize the purchase if. finish. brian: and interestingly, you've seen other auto companies, you know, even today the ford reported earnings, and they said, hey, we're actually looking more at hybrids. we're going to scale down our investments in evs. the stock popped because investors said, good, make stuff people want to buy. stop making stuff the government wants you to sell. i want to get your take on this as well. the national corn growers' association warning the white house may be overlooking the benefits of biofuels as it rushes to embrace evs. do you agree with that? are biofuels really part of the solution if evs aren't at the moment in. >> again, it's the same thing. we've had mandates in the past on biofuels, that you had to have a certain percentage of biofuels in your fuel. it's the government trying to drive policy outcomes. look, the corn growers play such an incredibly important role in places like and throughout the

midwest, and hay make a significant can contribution to our biofuels industry. but at the end of the day, i would prefer if consumer demand drive this sort of thing, not government policy. and that is an issue. look, the biden administration in trying to pursue an agenda, not a market-based agenda, but a political one, you know, they wind up hurting themselves on the environment. and if they're hurting, you know, producers of clean biofuels that actually goes against what they claim they're trying to achieve. brian: and you see these companies who went headlong on the ev route losing so much money, taxpayers paying so much money, regulations that companies can't keep up with. it is truly a mess. and the simpler answer is let people buy the things they want, and companies will be more efficient in producing it. neil, we've got to leave it there, but i really appreciate your thoughts today. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. brian: all right. gop if strategist ford o'connell

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>> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bud light is trying to make a comeback within expensive star-studded super bowl ad, plus budweiser is bringing back its iconic it clydesdale horses in the beer sales are yet to recover after backlash from the partnership with transgender influencer, milk mulvaney and president trump, coming out in support of the light beer and calling mulvaney so, a mistake of epic proportions but he said that the company has paid the

price suggests that it deserves a second she is with me now is gop strategist, fort o'connell, and ford, it is good to see you and i have to say all the things that i was expecting this year, he did not expect to see former president trump, stick his neck out for bud light and are you surprised by this. >> about surprised because america is a country of second chances so long of you actually learned your lesson and appears about like, anheuser-busch, trying to rehabilitate their adventure the commercial and you sent me to go back to the roots and bringing people together for highlighting the best of americana for look it's to be back for bud light. >> on the redemption of a believer in the possibility of the reduction and they will do it through the super bowl ads may be average cost with 32nd advertisement the super bowl is $7 million in bud light sales are down 30 percent year over year and i guess my question and

could we get a backfire here enemy this is a heavy nostalgia and they're laying it on pretty thick and there's a lot of comedy in this. but you know i do not think that it was a funny issue for people when bud light did what they did last year and howdy think the place out. ford: will look i do not understand why anheuser busch in bud light particular decided way into the culture war some it is actually compelling remember bud light was a number one sold beer in america since it been dethroned by magdala get anheuser-busch is lost $30 billion in market caps and so when i go back to the basics see a culture war politics customers what you want is going to be a long road back ryan and it will tell you ufc come the partnered with anheuser-busch i would like back in the late fall and guesswork of the sales are still bound. brian: do you think we've turned a corner and some of these

issues and what i mean is, do you think that the businesses now, are asking questions about things that two years ago, they said the poll go-ahead to go with that because that is the political future sea administrations priority and we do not wanting to get canceled have entered the corner. ford: i don't know that we turn the corner but were starting to see some good moments i think it a lot of corporate more rooms there talking about the sin, here we go woke will go broke and just look at what happened bud light and i am then i mr. bush late same time, i do nothing to dissing for example, ben & jerry's ice cream is going the message of hopefully, i will remain hopeful that i think michael george and me the best that is similar, because my tennis shoes as see politics and the culture wars, super customers the best product possible. brian: i agree there have been some companies that it made cutbacks from a tarnished mutation in chipolte was able to do it after the equally thing and volkswagen was able to do it after the mission things but

this is a different issue of this is an identity thing is not a product thing and i think that's the hard part and i give you sought. ford: , absolutely think you're right you will see an answer bush spent billing dollars is with the super bowl 58 and since a las vegas is a long road back with a stick with it basics what got them there just highlighting americana, the people fell get back eventually brian. brian: in fort o'connell is a guy who likes is nostalgia new think that it might work good to see you sure in answering think you for being with us. ford: thank you. brian: right in front of elizabeth mcdonald to be sure to tune it to big money playbook, and education in america, tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern and it me wonderful callings it will be right here on foxbusiness thank you for watching the evening at its tonight and i was over the bottom line with jacky and john come there you are. >> will i proceed with the town hall tomorrow but first my have to do this it's great to see you and thank you.