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asked at what temperature does fahrenheit equal celsius which i think i know the answer. i will go last. you are first. ashley. ashley: no idea. i will go with number 2-40. brian: i feel great about number one, minus 20. we want so do i. i feel really cool and really good about-20. we got it right? come en. he looked it up. brian: you were so confident. i know that one. we went give me the prompter again. got to read this. the answer is negative 40 degrees, the freezing point of water is celsius 0 °. fahrenheit is 32 °. thanks for sticking around. full hour this afternoon, the big-money playbook, education in america town hall on this network at one:00, live studio audience. don't get put off. coast-to-coast starts now.
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lauren: 1 constitutional crisis? for investors it is operation ignore. the nation might be fixated on how nine justices decided donald trump can be kicked off a state ballot. investors are not. you might be worried about an expanding middle east war. investors are not and you might be frazzled by dc dysfunction and nothing getting done. investors are not. real worries but on wall street the response today pretty much as it has been through all of these days, not crisis, more like crickets. why that is yet again. it is amazing to me everyone saying we are in a christ -- constitutional crisis, supreme court justices deciding whether president a candidate can appear on a ballot, that's good stuff, they yon on wall street. why? >> there's only basically 15% of the country invested in the market and the money needs a place to go and right now the stock market is still the place to go. it goes up 8% year-over-year anyway and as it is now, with the numbers we are reporting,
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believe it or not, the buyers are taking every opportunity. you take into consideration the will of worry, the more people trying to say no, markets can't go up the farther they go higher and i wouldn't be surprised to see the s&p at 50 one hundred and the nasdaq 18,000 because right now buyers are in full control. neil: more stow with the nasdaq than the down the s&p but that's a separate story but you arkwright rate. if you're climbing a wall of worry or concerns for the folks who do invest. they are not worried about that so who is right? >> they are both right. if you are an investor long-term markets go up 8.5% year-over-year. if you are a trader you are dead wrong because right now markets are telling you clearly they are going higher, whether it is 7 or 10 or whatever
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number it is the debt doesn't matter, inflation doesn't matter. all that matters now is wall street still believes the fed may cut rates and are buying into the market and until it stops they will continue to go higher and there is no point to say it is over. stuart: what are your thoughts on technology? as we focus on the s&p 500, when it climbs over 5000, when it was at 3000, a couple years ago, technology stocks, the big technology stocks made up 16% of the index, closer to 30% today if you focus on the biggest names like microsoft, apple, amazon, etc. . is it too vulnerable? to a tech wreck? >> always vulnerable to a tech rack but look at what we have. all new technology, we are heavy into ai, all these new
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things coming out which could help propel these markets. there will be another tech wreck at some point. trying to predict that is the other problem. we cannot predict it. there's a big line from bank to bank, the banks are leveraged but the technology is hot. the etf more than doubled and it is catching up to the s&p so at the end of the day stocks want to go higher, can't be a seller. if you want to be a seller, watch from go higher and look at this. our guess is the market. stuart: that's good advice. a lot of people saying it looks like we're on the verge of a soft landing and they are wrestling that with rate cuts are coming but could be delayed. they seemed -- it is in our day, a soft landing, we can live with that. >> i don't know if it will be such a soft landing. the problem we are seeing here
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is similar to the 90s, suddenly in 2,000 one, bangor, down came the collapse of the nasdaq. i wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again. the problem is we are in an election cycle in only 2,008 have we seen a down market into an election cycle. stuart: you mentioned the 2000 nasdaq wreck. it took almost a decade, took a long time. got rid of something like that were repeated would take as long? >> it would take as long most likely because it would put the country and a lot of problems. remember, middle-class keeps getting higher, the lessers are getting more, we are getting more poor people in this country and it's going to be harder to get them buying power if it falls down that hard again. stuart: you are good at your stuff, appreciate that.
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the dow and s&p are having a tough day. the nasdaq with a lot of comeback in technology stocks as if they needed that, doing just fine. in the meantime to the supreme court case, the 9 justices going after both the lawyers, one representing donald trump at more so going after the lawyer representing colorado in this effort to take it off, that's the former president, off the ballot, but it's fascinating. david spunt at the supreme court, what i find so incredible about this but i love what it says about our country, we can have a calm, rational, yet still heated discussion about something that is going to be use this big, possibly taking a mere candidate's name off the state ballot without coming to blows. just seems odd that we are deep in a get in the context of what some people call an insurrection. others a disturbance but the justices seem to be piling on the colorado lawyer here. i wanted to get your thoughts
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on where you think this stands. >> they really are, no question. even the liberal justices, kagan, sotomayor, have specifically been asking very pointed questions to jason murray who is representing those colorado voters who sued to try to remove donald trump from the colorado ballot. you can't see it on television behind me but from where i am at least, you can see the capitol dome across the street, the supreme court right across the capital and those could ask of donald trump say he committed insurrection in the shadow of the us capital. these arguments are been going on for 2 hours and very pointed questions to this attorney that is representing the colorado voters which also the pointed questions for the attorney representing donald trump, donald trump's attorney sata support, taking them off the ballot deprives him of his rights as a presidential candidate. we heard a lot about a key provision of the fourteenth
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amendment to the constitution specifically section 3. it bars those from holding federal office in the future who engaged in insurrection while an officer of the united states. the question is whether it specifically applies to the office of the presidency. the reason is because trump's attorney use say his office as president is not considered an office of the united states. watch this here. >> are you arguing both at the office of the presidency should not be considered one of the barred officers and the person who previously took the presidential oath is not subject to disqualification? >> we are arguing both. >> i don't see that in your brief. i see a lot of focus on on the second but not the first. >> there's more focus on the second and we acknowledge we have a somewhat heavier left on the first point. >> reporter: we don't expect the justices to take a plea issue whether donald trump engaged in an insurrection but
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we do expect them, and fairly quickly, to rule on whether or not he can remain on the ballot. there are a lot of questions for this attorney representing these colorado voters and we expect a decision to come very soon because we are talking the colorado primary which takes place supertuesday unless the month. it's not excited to be the typical argument where decision is rendered by june or july. we could get something here in a week or so. stuart: neil: thank you very much. former deputy independent counsel knows what he speaks of, speaking to this grand body. there was talk that maybe as soon as today we might get a decision on this. what do you think of that? >> i think that's unlikely but i agree it will be pretty soon and i agree with your comments,
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what a magnificent exercise here, the arguments on both sides are excellent, the questions are piercing. it really does a lot for the court's reputation i believe. stuart: i don't mean to blow smoke but one of the things i love when i hear you speak is calm, you might have in the eyes of some have polarizing views, but you say it so eloquently the you forget i thought i was mad at saul. that is what i thought in this argument back and forth, you think in some of these crazy countries where rights like that are not granted it is very uplifting but that's just my naïve americana view of that but i want your thought on how important it is let's say for the nation that this decision not be along party lines or philosophies, that it be a substantial decision may be a unanimous one but what do you make of that? >> that is important and i think you are going to see something close to that.
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you may have different reasons, different rationales for what the court majority decides but if oral arguments mean anything, and they don't always i think there is going to be a substantial majority for an opinion that upholds -- that reverses the colorado supreme court. in order to get 8 or 9 vote it might or 9 votes it might have to be on very narrow grounds, there may be, like you say 6-3 on this position at 8 to one for another position but i think it's clear the colorado supreme court is going to be overturned and it is going to be overturned on grounds that make it clear that another state is not going to be able to try to do the same thing. stuart: main kicking around the same thing as we see, that goes out the window too if so. >> yes and all the justices
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seem quite concerned about the uniformity issue, the fact that under colorado's view of the fourteenth amendment every state gets to decide this on its own and it is all okay because it is all going to end up at the supreme court and there seems to be no justice who seems happy with that position. stuart: i got the same feel, justices a kicked into this because they don't want a redux of 2,000 and the implication the president of the united states is picked by the supreme court depending on your point of view. looking at this case they are looking at one they might take up or might not take up concerning whether the president can be shielded from suits in general, that he's exonerated from that. they may not take that up but a couple of cases they might be dabbling in and may be more and they don't like that. do they? >> they don't like it generally
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but they are not going to shrink from their responsibility. you make a very important point. they are going to make a consequential decision on presidential immunity from criminal prosecution. whether they hear the decision from the dc circuit or not because even if they deny cert, they say we are not going to hear that case, the case on whether or not he is immune from criminal prosecution, that is going to send a message which not a presidential message, that's going to be a defeat for donald trump. even if they do decide to hear that case, he's not going to win on his broader point that he is completely immune and i think again, that will redound to the benefit of the court's standing which has certainly been tarnished unfairly in recent years. stuart: if i could push you one more time, your gut feeling of where this goes. i'm no lawyer but i've watched enough legal shows to qualify
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as an expert but in all seriousness, jason mary is getting a tough run from all the justices today as we were discussing with david spunt, he is representing the colorado voters in this case. i'm just wondering what is your feel of it and how this decision goes? >> the colorado supreme court, its decision is going to be overturned. the only question is going to be by how much and on precisely what grounds. there are a number of ways they can do it. they can say the provision is not self-executing, congress 6 and 3 of the 14th amendment which is the key section congress has to allow for this and they haven't except in the criminal statute for insurrection. they can decide it that way. they can decide we are not going to have a bunch of different states deciding this question, we are not going to let the states decide it at all and talking about term limits
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case which says the state cannot put an extra qualification on the presidency that isn't in the constitution, section 3 says congress can waive somebody who engages in insurrection in the argument is this only applies to somebody holding office, he hasn't been elected yet so there are a number of ways it can go but colorado is going to be reversed, that i can pretty much guarantee. stuart: great seeing you again. in the meantime, wall street really focused on other things, this might be an important case, might be historic, might be the stuff of which people will write for many years, decades but for wall street is about money money money and this has nothing to do with them making money. it is all about the consumer which is very relevant. times about 12%. there are a lot of aspects and
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xfinity1stand10gs.com for your chance to win. stuart: all right. they thought for a while mickey mouse was in trouble but earnings report past estimates in terms of revenue and even parks a thought to be compromised by prices that were so high. that's not the case, stock is up appreciably 12% as we speak. i don't think lily is one of those to say i told you so but she could just as easily have said that, the ceo who wasn't where of the changes it disney and the strength of the consumer and the family and that is all in the nest of the disney. >> exactly right. we are seeing what happens when you have good execution from a
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fiscally responsible, cost cutting the tate billion dollars back to pre-pandemic cash flow levels but also a strategic focus that is clear, putting the customer at the center with the streaming package, investment of one. 9 billion tapping into that youthful engagement that videogames are taking away from mass media. it's smart to see that balance and i want to praise the executive team because they stayed focused and delivered. we won bob iger was looking like he was staggering for a while, he talked about cutting prices for visitors to parks. i don't know if that was reflected in the latest score because the park attendance was still super strong, people paying through the nose to get in so that is probably not changed but it is a testament to the strength of the consumer. tell us about that. >> the resilience of the consumer, one of those puzzling numbers in all the economics we analyzed it despite inflation the consumer is strong, we
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still have aftermath, ptsd from covid and the desire for live experiences. they've been smart at packaging the ticket, experiences that you have to pay for the cookies and all this other stuff. it is unbelievable that families are still going into debt to go to disney. stuart: neil: you hear the consumer spending like crazy, but doing so on credit, slapping on credit. we've always heard that before. i don't know if it's different this time. what do you think? >> it's the reality of what we are seeing, the debt and it is defaulting payment ratios. the economy will hopefully bounce back and tell us a different story but i want to underscore something on disney. they know who they' re consumer is. one interesting fact you hear me talk about, the hispanic or
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diverse communities here. the population under 18 is already majority minority nationally and disney knows that. when you look at the type of content and talent and story lines, not just cocoa when the movie came out, the stuff they do during holidays, the packages at the parks, they are very profitable and culturally intelligent move they are layering on top of good execution and great strategy. i know some people at disney who know this is a key strategy especially with hispanic children and families that are bigger on average versus the typical household. stuart: now they need contract with taylor swift. what do you think? get ahead of the super bowl. everyone is making accommodations for her. she is why the nfl is seeing great success attracting younger female watchers. >> tare disney place is getting a tailwind of that.
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a movie coming out. the nfl is loving it. swift these are loving it. who knew that having this brand because she is a brand was going to increase viewership by 10%. that is the holy grail especially for the nfl. how do you cross crossover? how do you invite more viewers? the last number we saw, $832 million with brand value since we saw from walking in new york holding hands as a couple. neil: there are all sorts of ways of looking at this, how many times cbs cuts away, she's coming -- >> going from tokyo. adam: will probably make it. but that's getting weird. there are a lot of nfl diehards who say quit going to taylor
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swift in the sky box but ratings are up, people love those skybox shots and they get to watch the game. >> the proof is in the money. the jerseys, sales of grown 400%. %. it became a top five selling item. same thing with taylor swift. every time you cut to her we marketers know that is earned media, the value of the millisecond will keep those viewers who don't care about the game but care about her stuck to the game. you want to see her again. it stretches the engagement which all 20 drives up your rent. it is smart to keep cutting. i have friends in the nfl that know this is big, might as well ride the wave and it's keeping those new swift these. neil: what if they break up?
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all that money just fritters away? >> may be. some of the swiftys jumping up and down for a game they never watched before will stick around and that will be the challenge for the nfl. they are figuring out the messy factor, what if he leaves? what if she leaves? neil: they are here right now. thank you, so good seeing you. people are correct on the price of the turkey leg. it exceeds $10. i had no idea. i want to bring you up-to-date on the markets, trying to claw their way back. the s&p 500 which had fallen 8 points from 5000, once again making a stab at that. we are on top of all of that after this. there's my little m! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you.
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him removed from the ballot. listen to donald trump at mar-a-lago. >> we did well in a primary that didn't matter. we have tremendous support from the people of the country. they hate what is happening at the border. they hate what is happening generally, we are not a respected country. they wanted to come back. the results of the election. wouldn't have the ukrainian situation with russia. we would not have had an attack on israel which was so horrible. you would not have had inflation. you wouldn't have china talking about taiwan. wouldn't have the problems we have today. you have a broke iran and the rich iran.
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they had no money to give to hamas, no money to give to hezbollah and they have 200 billion plus as you know people don't like to admit it's a controller rack. iraq has another 300 billion. a rich group of countries and as you know iraqi should have never happened. it was a balance against iran and we. the balance and iran has essentially air rack and erect doesn't like saying that and that is the way it is. the world is in tremendous danger. we are in danger of possibly world war iii. we have a man who is absolutely the worst president in the history of our country, can't put two sentences together, he's not going to be able to negotiate with vladimir putin or xi or kim jong-un, not going to be able to negotiate with anybody. he knows how to do is drop
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bombs, meaningless bonds except they kill a lot of people, cost a lot of money. every time you drop a bomb it's worth $1 million and it sets us back. we have peace through strength, this should not be happening. the middle east is blowing up. it's blowing up. a lot of people are being killed and it is so unnecessary. i just say in watching the supreme court today, a beautiful process. i hope democracy in this country will continue. because right now we have a very tough situation with all the radical left ideas, the weaponization of politics. it is slowly illegal but they do it anyway. it has to stop. one of the court cases i'm involved, every single one, civil, whether it is the attorney general or district
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attorney, and many meetings for the white house and the doj, 8 our meetings, it was all staged him a phony hoax and you look at it and it is a phony hoax. hopefully that case will be dismissed in short order. it is a disgrace to this country but they work together with the justice department and the white house and not supposed to do that. these cases come out of the white house, biden election interference, the presentation today was a good one. adam: we will continue to do that, the supreme court justices seem to be piling up on the lawyer representing that to get donald trump off the state ballot.
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this could be a lopsided decision. could be a matter of days. some interpreted that from the more left-leaning justices they will not support colorado's move to remove donald trump from the ballot. one of the things that comes up on legal moves by many on the left to force donald trump off the ballot, to make life difficult for him, is backfiring. i'm not here to go into the legal arguments, politically it helped him in march along the republican nomination. what do you make of where we stand here today and what you might have made of the supreme court back-and-forth today? >> it was interesting and hope the court will come to a 9-0 decision overturning the colorado court. i think what donald trump is saying is true. if he was finishing his third year of his second term the country would be in a different
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place and that is why he is going to be reelected if we have a fair election. if he was still president i don't believe hamas would have invaded israel, iran wouldn't be getting billions of dollars from us. the maximum pressure campaign, wouldn't be closer to a nuclear weapon. i don't believe russia would have invaded ukraine. we wouldn't have an open board, we wouldn't have 40 year inflation or 20 or interest rates, rising crime, the nation would be better off and almost no american can say they are better than they were three years ago, we are less safe, less free, secure, less prosperous. that's why donald trump will win if we have a fair election. that is ensuring his being on the ballot. adam: house matters concern you. a lot of people focusing on the gop fumbling the ball, you didn't get to fix the border, didn't get to fund allies, the impeachment against mayorkas failed but you are not having a
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great go of it. what do you say? >> the house has been criticized, one of the least productive congress is in memory. what do you wish the house did more of that we could get through a schumer senate and biden white house to sign it so week should join hands with the democrats and more compromise and show we can govern and get something done no matter how bad it is. the border deal that was crushed and destroyed, the american people won, conservatives across the country won, it was a classic example of an attempt by washington to do something. neil: the senate will take up this procedural vote, one hundred $60, don't know where it is going but it is trimmer i'm told by many of your colleagues it is just as dead on arrival. >> better be dead on arrival, the speaker said it is and we
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shouldn't allow support for israel to be held hostage to support for ukraine which doesn't enjoy majority support among republicans in the house and doesn't enjoy support by americans across the country, not republicans. speaker johnson is the republican leader, speaker of the house. israel deserves a standalone vote, should be paid for. you should understand better than anybody we have to end the era of unpaid supplementals that further exacerbate our debt. we can cut un funding. we can cut and more funding and irs funding and climate funding, there's many examples of low hanging fruit, democrats should be willing to support israel and so we are to do that as we did in november. lauren: 20 i always love having you on because i learned something. there is a move afoot by conservative colleagues to express their frustration with mike johnson, the speaker, botched it. a lot of these were easy pickups, he is no kevin mccarthy. his days are numbered. are you in that? >> i don't know about a move
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that is afoot. i haven't heard that. we are performance-based, results-based. we need mike johnson to lead us. the biggest example, the biggest question for him, are we willing to have a shutdown fight over securing the border? we should not fund the government that facilitates the border invasion, we shouldn't give millions to mayorkas and biden to continue to allow illegals to pour across the southern border. we said this is the hill we will die on. it's not part of the supplemental, needs to be part of the spending fight. neil: if he were to pursue that would be a marked man your eyes? >> to pursue what exactly? neil: being speaker of the house? if he does something opposite to what you want, if he's not willing to say it's the border, we shut down, or vice versa, he wants to avoid a government shutdown, you say?
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>> i wasn't cavalier or flippant about that a year ago. i was focused on fighting for the american people doing what we said we would do. what we can't do is keep the policy biden schumer policies and spending levels in place. another example. we got to fight for pfizer reform, can't continue the surveillance of us citizens without a warrant to. so put the judiciary a bill on the floor, they have jurisdiction on this issue. that's a jim jordan thomas massey warren davidson andy biggs bill. it protect american citizens constitutional rights. lauren: 20 so you miss kevin mccarthy or johnson still up there in your eyes? >> not on my constituents miss kevin mccarthy and i don't miss them either. neil: thank you, good seeing you again. at the corner of wall and broad, we have losses, don't know what triggers what but technologies are strong today. maybe that is helping.
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adam: donald trump just fielding questions from reporters on a day he was thank will to the justices of the supreme court, his read, the collective read that most justices even a progressive once were tough on the lawyer arguing on behalf of colorado to remove the former president from the ballot than they were on donald trump's lawyer. the great thing about having charlie here is it is all in his head so we wanted to focus on this. he joins us now. the big picture, donald trump, you talk to the money guys and influential people, what is it? charles: they think nothing happens, doesn't go to jail or convicted on any of these cases, on the ballots. whoever thought the constitutional clause against insurrection meant this? just crazy. they think he gets through the
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election. neil: get through and wins the election? charles: it probably, don't know what happens down the road. neil: the sense of a pile on, if you don't like donald trump, it does feel like a pile on. charles: a friend of mine was at a jpmorgan conference last week, private conference, couple hundred people. they brought in paul begala who worked for chris christie, they both hate trump and essentially it was like for an hour or so up pile on what a horrible human being this guy is, how pathetic he is. my source was saying what are we accomplishing from this? my source is not a huge trump supporter but he represents a lot of people, a lot of stuff he did was okay.
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neil: jamie dimon said it seems a little bit -- charles: people were cheering and laughing and kind of missed the bigger picture. the bigger picture is you have an administration that's clearly incompetent. it is incompetent on so many levels, the economy, the border, afghanistan, that was crazy, it got worse from there. the economy still is not good for average people. prices are too high. inflation has come down, prices remain high. neil: they don't buy that trend is our friend. charles: any democratic city were chased around. this is a train coming off the tracks and people are underestimating a guy that aside from his crazy time and we know he has crazy town policywise did a decent job. neil: are they worried, not that that's a republican but more conservative, are they
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worried how republicans at least give the appearance of botching things they want to do like mayorkas, might be a good thing they didn't get what they wanted and try again, the whole supplemental bill on security that failed, a host of things they are not getting done jar they worried about that? it always appears they stumble. charles: says something about the republican party the dysfunction. trump is so, he hovers over this so much, the conversation. i was out to dinner with republicans last night, people who go to for chris christie thing. mayorkas did not come up once. what came up was trump, how he's going to survive. neil: as he goes the house goes, the senate goes, can he be a leader to help the party or the opposite?
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charles: they think they can work with him. most people that really know trump say there is a crazy public trump and there's a guy in private that's much more rational. that is out there. whether it is true or not i am not telling you. the events around january 6th, that does not suggest that's one hundred% true. but that is what they feel. they feel it is a step up from this. nikki haley is a smart person running a decent campaign. she's not picking up steam. people at some point sit there and say what have we got? she's not going to win, who is better? trump or biden? if you believe in free markets, less regulation, getting the border in order.
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neil: the bottom line, the personal stuff notwithstanding this other stuff does look like a plan and turns them off. charles: think of it this way. you start adding it up. eugene carol, a jury found him guilty 20 years ago, basically said he went in and sexually assaulted her. this is where donald trump is popular in this time. neil: the cases been adjudicated. charles: then he defends himself. and the judge who was appointed by bill clinton turns around with -- neil: he fuels this argument. thank you very much.
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that's not helping relations between the united states and israel. i want to go to one of my favorite guests not only for what he had to endure but looking to the point that he sees the country dealing with right now. successful attack talk out hezbollah commander. there are more of them and how is that going? >> it is a very good thing that it happens. the united states is going to take people that harm or kill americans and we will hunt you down and do one or 2 things, capture your kill you? given where he was it was a right decision to do it but we have more that are out there, more groups planning and conducting these operations against american forces and national security interests in the region. time to get to work. neil: when we go after houthi rebel positions and violate
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them in those positions, they come back within hours with their own attacks. we haven't incapacitated them but what do you make of that? >> the biden administration number one way to too long before initiating strikes. it resulted in dead americans before we did anything of substance. we lost the upper hand when it came to deterrence. in some ways we are playing wack are more throughout erect, syria, lebanon, yemen, the houthi rebels, nothing fundamentally has changed. i said on the networks before that the end of the day these strikes are going to prove ineffective and the bottom line, we are unwilling to hold iran accountable for what they are doing in the middle east and that doesn't mean we have to go conduct military strikes into iran. we have sanctions. we have maritime interdiction
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operations and if necessary, hold the irani and leadership accountable for what they are doing. do it in concert with european allies who have a number of economic ties and can influence the market and what iran is able to access and squeeze them financially and don't allow them to have access to the banking and financial systems. neil: european allies switching gears, one of them germany, is concerned about the inability to provide funding for ukraine saying germany has upped its commitment to helping ukrainians, the equivalent of 37 billion or something like that, close to $40 billion, they can't make up for us not being part of that. ukraine, aid packages, going nowhere. does any of this concern you? >> it is very much a concern. republicans at some point need to realize our national
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security interests lie at the heart of global leadership. we are a leader nation and we should take that role and assume that responsibility. the president does not care about the southern border which is creating its own national security crisis but by the same token, germany may say statements like that, when was the last time they stepped up to pay 2% to be part of nato? they need to live up to treaty obligations. europe is being threatened by putin and the united states should be helping ukraine as much as possible in a leadership role. but we are not. we need to be able to step up. in reality we set the gold bond. we are the standard everyone else will rise up to and when we fund and help and support ukraine and give them the weapons when they need them,
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not just when it is convenient for the biden administration to give them. look what europe has done. they have fallen in line behind us, they've gone beyond what we were willing to give, uk and missiles they are giving ukraine to conduct long-range strikes clearly an indicator you have leaders within the european themselves that ultimately cast a long shadow. we are the global leader and we need to step up and the biden administration needs to do that sooner rather than later. neil: thank you very much. i want to go to the independent needle founder. the ceo and president, military aspects that are out there. i was thinking of you. looking at nikki haley at the race, it's an uphill battle, the never had a caucuses for which delegates are at stake,
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the nevada primary last to the candidates who aren't running. i'm wondering of her days are done and it is donald trump's nomination to losing your eyes? >> nevada doesn't matter, she put 0 effort into that. it is a very strange set up the republican party seems to have chosen. i'm not the expert. a primary and a caucus that awards delegates, the other one doesn't. there was something of a right in campaign to embarrass her by the trump supporters, she's ignoring that. south carolina will be important. super tuesday will be important. nevada on the republican side. neil: donald trump got backing from the supreme court. i'm not a lawyer, maybe you are but looked like they are lined up against colorado's move to take him off the ballot. that could be another winfred
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donald trump. >> i don't know. we will have to see what the result will be. everyone is reading the tea leaves. it is almost a distraction. we are assuming donald trump will be on the ballot and who is the better candidate for the nomination? we are very much convinced the next generation better candidate that can take america forward and is not completely self-centered is nikki haley and we are excited about her and we are supporting her in south carolina where it matters and super tuesday. neil: if she were to lose south carolina and not do well super tuesday, would you say nikki haley, time to hang it up? >> we will follow her lead but i don't think she will win south carolina. she set the bar and i tend to agree, can she do better than in new hampshire where she had
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momentum and will she catch donald trump in south carolina? probably not. can she do better than in new hampshire? that's what i'm hoping. she's doing a great job with her campaign in south carolina, fundraising is going well for her. she is on saturday night live which was fun too many other shows, doing interviews. i think this is a chance for voters to see a clear contrast between those two candidates. they had a crowded field. south carolina in super tuesday. neil: you've been a loyal friend and supporter. good seeing you again. thank you very much. i will leave you with markets clawing their way back. the s&p back in 10 points. "the big money show" is now.

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