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all? >> no, i'm honestly mostly diversified -- [audio difficulty] charles: i'm sorry, we're having some issues. all right. so before i let you go, what's next with you? if your podcast has been on fire. >> yes. my bod cast -- podcast just hit 300 episodes. i'm going to continue, 9:45 a.m. eastern monday through friday on youtube, and i'm going to keep going with bitcoin and crypto as this is the leading digital revolution for the next generation and beyond. charles: you got any crypto? >> no. >> he will soon, believe me. charles: you will have some soon. >> i got his back. charles: congratulations, even. you are absolutely killing it. of course, when it comes to doing this for a long time, liz claman started young as well, and she's proof positive, it is an endeavor worth embracing, right, liz? liz: oh, man. they're too part for us, charles. charles carl i know. liz: they're coming for us. charles, you know, rachel buying
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amc, did you see the movie dumb money? if you're all over it. charles: i heard, i heard. i haven't seen it. liz: you're in it. okay, you -- call your agent and ask for residuals. charles: you got it. [laughter] liz: thank you very much. it was a great movie, really great movie about the ape and retail investor frenzy. all right, speaking of frenzy, will the buying frenzy forge ahead or fizzle as we kick off the final hour of trade? the dow and s&p are still on track the trounce yesterday's records. 2024 has been good to the bulls and good right now. right now the s&p 500, it's a 6-point gain. not a huge gain, but if it closes even a point higher, that will mark its 13th record of the year. the dow, even stronger. any gain today, same thing. blue chips will mark their 14th record of 2024. the dow is up 71 points. now, after yesterday's epic 265-point gain, the nasdaq pulling back just a little bit. it's the not a shock or a surprise. we have it down about 21 points,
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but you can't blame nvidia. nvidia is not fizzling. now, while off a its morning peak of $824 a share which, by the way, welcomed the chipmaker to the $2 trillion market cap club, the stock is up 12 points or 1.6% to $797 and change. that gain right now, okay, it's definitely cooler than the 16% spike yesterday, but regardless the fact that it continues its sprint means short sellers betting against the stock are getting no relief. yesterday alone they endured paper losses of $3 billion. yeah, it's a costly price if you're not believing in these names at least up until this very moment. investors long warner brothers discovery throwing in the towel at this hour. the media and streaming company is near the bottom of the s&p 500, down 9.25%. shares are getting macheted after missing on both the top and bottom line. now, at $8.68 the stock is touching a low not seen since
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discovery a acquired warner brothers, and you can go back to april of 2022 for that. ceo david zaslav pointing to last year's hollywood actorses and writers' strikes as the bomb that blew a hole in its balance sheet. but with a.i.-created voices and copycats now sprouting unicorn companies, looks like the actors were right to be worried. what does the real voice of original a.i. voice, the original enabled a.i. model think? coming up, the real siri. yes, susan bennett, whose voice launched a million iphones -- more than that -- joins us in a fox business exclusive. also a screen actors' guild member, so we're going to get her opinion on that and what she's doing now. what does she think of what she spawned? okay, there's a boat load of news developing this hour beyond the records that we are seeing in the dow and the s&p. not the least of which involves the battle to win gop voters in south carolina. former president trump leading
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challenger nikki haley ahead of the state's primary tomorrow, but she has no intention with, apparentlying of giving up her pursuit no matter the outcome. coming up in our political panel, we're going to talk about what happens in south carolina tomorrow and beyond. but first, let's get to the dow jones industrials because it crossed the 39,000 mark yesterday for the very first time, and whether the stocks that are leading the broader market to records will be the winners of the future. to the floor show, we're joined by keeper of the dow record hats trader peter tuchman from the floor of the new york stock exchange. and we also have trader scott redler. peter, it only took 22 trading days for the dow to go from 38,000 to 39,000. what would you say got it to this fresh peak yesterday, and what are the market internals you're seeing tell you about how long the bull run continues? peter. okay. hold on. peter can't hear me, so we'll get to that in just a second.
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let's me go to -- let me go to scott redler. i know you really focus on the s&p 500. how do market internals look today? are things looks -- looking a little too bubblicious? >> market internals are looking a little better today. you do have some participation versus just the semis that actually ignited this move to highs. if you to remember, liz, this week a lot of people got very cautious. look at the ppi, it's a little hot, look at the cpi, it's a little hot. and then midweek if you remember, pal low a aloe -- palo alto reported weaker than expected earnings, so tech got hit. that was a leadership group. so going into, into nvidia, it was very, very important for them to deliver. so right when sentiment got very negative, all of a sudden nvidia delivered, the semis exploded, tech started to lead again, and the dow participated. so here we are again at s&p all-time highs. every time it seems like we're about to get a corrective phase,
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there's a group that takes the baton. it was just the semis, and now it does feel like if we can get a little bit of i'd say relief in rates which have been ticking higher, i do think the bios and the small caps are waiting in the wigs to finally go -- wings to finally go and provide. in the last week or so, it's been all semi ifs, a lot of tech, the fab seven. it was the mega seven, now it's the fab four because tesla and apple respect r aren't doing as well. right when we're about to fail, there's a new group. this week it was the semis. next week perhaps it'll be the small caps and the ooh bios that will lead -- liz: oh, so you're with, so you're predicting that some of the russell names will finally get their due. i mean, yesterday the russ are el was the only -- russell was the only index that closed in the red. we do have it up about a quarter of a percent right now, but which areas? if you were to break it into small and mid cap sectors, what
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do you think? >> well, i'm not going to break the russell into individual names. i think if you want exposure, go with the iwm. everyone thought it was going to fall apart last week when you had the hot cpi and ppi, and it held in there. so if we could just get a few benign numbers, i do think the iwm will, will start to have some better participation and appreciation. and as far as the bios, the bios have been really strong even with rates ticking up. so you have both groups that should be going lower that aren't, so they get a little news that's conducive to them, they're going to go. but in the meantime, the place to be was the a.i. semis, and i think a lot of traders did very well with nvidia, you know? if you had amd do well, you had a bunch of really nice names making new highs and at this point the s&p's at all-time highs, so it also shows that over time, you know, the bulls win long term s&p wise. if you're a trader, you have to work for alpha, you have to find where the is. and right now i think nvidia
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will pause a little bit, and if tech could just pause a little bit, i do think the small caps and the bios could be a better spot the next few weeks moving forward. liz: well, scott, what about a name like smci? super microcomputer, which yesterday went absolutely insane, up 33%. where were you on that trade yesterday, and where are you on it today? the stock is down about 11% right now. >> first of all, smci is an adult swim. i don't recommend it for people who haven't been trading for a while. [laughter] it's like you need your swim -- it's like your iron man swim. last friday at this time we were shorting sm if c ci, and we did really well. it went to 700, and then yesterday, boom, it was already almost back at 975, and today as a you can see it's down at 8655. so it's a speculative -- 865. it's a speculative, fast mover. we call it also a widow maker, it could dell you -- kill you or
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make a lot of money. i focused more yesterday e on nvidia. nvidia had a breakout level of, like, 747. and if you remember yesterday right around the open, it tested it and then took off. so that was a great trade for traders. for an investment wise, it's been a great vehicle for investors based on that time frame. but smci, i would say those that aren't as a experienced should stay away. if you have a long-term approach there, i think long term it'll be just with fine. it's probably going to split a few times. it's the nuts and bolts of a.i., and it's probably good, you know, as a small cap. but to trade it you have to be really on top of your game. liz: okay. yeah, no adult swim for at least some investors who need to understand the dramatic moves. i mean, it's pretty incredible what smci has done just over the past year at more than 800%. scott redler, great to see you. we're going to try and reestablish with peter tuchman in just a couple of minutes, but
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in the meantime, perhaps the only thing that could eclipse the blazing battle for a.i. dominance are the real hot wars in ukraine and the middle east. up next we've got the latest on the u.s.' new action to slow vladimir putin's bloody assault on ukraine, and we are about to take you -- this is why i need you to stay with us -- to the deck of the uss eisenhower as americans protect the world's shipping lanes from houthi attacks in the region. as shipping costs skyrocket due to the dangers, the son you can shares global shipping etf, the ticker symbol is boat, has floated higher in the past six months by 12%. we're talking all of that and more when "the claman countdown" returns. the dow and the s&p still at records. ♪ ♪ (vo) what does it mean to be rich? maybe rich is less about reaching a magic number... and more about discovering magic.
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liz: fox business alert, national security council spokesman john kirby calling the sanctions the u.s. put in place against russia today, quote, the strongest set of sanctions ever imposed on a major economy. and that set is huge. 500 sanctions worth as the war is officially set to enter its third year tomorrow. the new penalties include, e port restrictions on nearly 100 entities that support russia's military efforts. earlier today while announcing the restriction, president biden reiterated his calls on congress to provide more funding to ukraine. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy telling fox news' bret baier in an exclusive interview that his e soldiers' lives depend on it. >> you know, we talked earlier about what happens if the u.s. for some reason does not give you the funds.
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do you have another option? is there another option? >> you understand that this help is crucial, so without it, sorry, but we will have more and more such heroic guys who have been in hospital. liz: in hospitals are worse as the war in ukraine rages on, in the red sea centcom says this morning its forces shot down three attack vehicles from the houthis with no damage to any ships. as sailor ares aboard the uss dwight d. eisenhower defend shippers and allies, fox news' correspondent mike tobin is just back on terra rah firm ma in tel aviv after boarding the massive aircraft carrier to get a firsthand look at the dangers these men and women, mike, are really facing. >> reporter: they really are, liz. and for the first time since world war ii, you've got a carrier strike group operating from the center of a threat not just sending jets, missiles and
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other firepower into the fight. onboard the uss dwight d. eisenhower in the red sea off the coast of yemen, there are n- [inaudible] ever time one of these f if 18 super hornets launch, they launch into what's called a weapons engagement zone meaning we are close enough to the hot zone that they're in the range of a hostile weaponry, in range of what the houthis could fire at a these guys. so -- [inaudible] sidewinder missiles. underneath the wing, 500-pound bombs for air to ground contact or air to ground targets. what they're looking for are targets of opportunity or dynamic targets -- [inaudible] [background sounds] what these sailors and pilots cannot do is get comfortable,
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because the houthis, despite u.s. contact, have gotten more bold. they've fired ballistic missiles, they have fired drones. they've even fired an underwater drone. now, these sailors and pilots are expected to be able to handle any threat, but the reality is they're shooting missiles out of the sky, drones out of the water, and there is no room for error. all of this with the goal that, frankly, the a navy was founded for, protection of free trade in the sea, this time the red sea. [background sounds] now, while the houthis say -- while the houthis say that they're firing in solitarity with hamas in gaza, the commander of this strike group says the sailors are disconnected from the war in gaza. all they care about is restoring peaceful maritime trade in the red sea and through the sue was canal. when it's restored, they go home. liz? liz: oh, first, our respect and thanks to all of the men and
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women serving and to you, mike, for bringing us this story. we're glad you're back safely. thank you so much. mike tobin in tel aviv. we've got warner brothers discovery blaming the actors' strike for its ugly quarterly report, and the stock reaction right now, it's down 9.7%. it now appears the actors were very smart to insist on cutting a deal with the studios to protect their image and voice from artificial intelligence. that was a huge part of the strike. we've got the perfect guest to discuss that very issue. hey, sirri, who is the voice of siri? >> siri's real name -- or, rather, her voice actress' real name, is susan men e net. liz: there she is. the real siri. susan bennett is the original a.i. voices used to create apple's sily -- oh, my god, she's real. [laughter] she is here next with her take on voice actors, a.i. cloning
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and all things siri. it's a fox business exclusive. by the way, apple shares getting dinged today, down about 1 and change, 1%. just 1 at the moment. but a gain of 22% over the last 52 weeks. we're coming right back. you've got to hear the real siri, susan bennett, next. ♪ ♪ slipping out of balance into freefall. (the stock market is now down 23%). this is happening people. where there are so few certainties... (laughing) look around you. you deserve to know. as we navigate a future unknown. i'm glad i found stability amidst it all. gold. standing the test of time.
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♪ if. ♪ liz: yesterday because of nvidia
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the entire space, it was this massive halo effect, went absolutely nuts. today a lot of those publicly-traded companies that have anything related to a. i. are getting a huge boost from artificial intelligence, but now money is pouring into a.i. start-ups. one of them, 11 labs, has become a magnet for venn venture -- venture capital money. the company uses artificial intelligence to replicate voices in 29 languages and is now valued -- it's a unicorn -- $1.1 billion. while the sag-aftra actors set up protections during their strike against studios using apt i. to clone their image and likeness, what kind of protections do voice sack -- a actors now have against studios using their human voices? joining us now in a fox business exclusive is the woman behind the original a.i. voice, the o.g., susan benefit -- susan bennett, the voice of apple's certificately. she's also a sag-aftra member.
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susan, first, you're real, yea. [laughter] what's your gut reaction to a.i. companies entering the voice acting space and clone aring voices? >> well, i don't like it. [laughter] i really don't like it. you know, being an actor is hard enough as it is. you never have any -- unless you have signed a contract for something, you never have any if security. you spend your life auditioning and working to get jobs. and so, you know, it sounds like a.i. is going to put a lot of people out of work. so i hope they do take the sag-aftra initiative seriously and consider that humans have got to eat, so they've got to work. [laughter] liz: i get that. listening more to your voice -- of course what you're saying, but you had lent your voice way back in the today when apple was first putting together siri, and now i know that everybody's phones who are listening are going to go off, so i won't say
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the a- ha-ay part of that, but tell us how you got compensated for it. >> well, i did not get compensated for it. none of the original siri voices, there were four of us. i was the north american voice, there was australian voice, british and french. and, you know, i think because siri was the very first wunsch nobody really knew what was going on. it was, you know, an iconic situation. and basically what had happened was in the mid 2000s, in 2005 it started for me, i did some recording of these verying very long, tedious, crazy phrases and sentences that were put together is and created to get all of the sound combinations in the language. and then after this was done, you know, then the company that made this happen -- liz: yeah. >> -- they were the ones that controlled the voices.
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so anyone wanted to get a voice, a different voice, my voice from this company nuance, they would just contact nuance and pay nuance for the voice, and the voice actor was totally bypassed. [laughter] so that's -- liz: oh, my gosh. well, see, no, it's not, and that is an example of why the actors and voice actors were smart if to plant their flag on this issue. you know, sag-aftra recently made an agreement with replica studios which is that sort of at the forefront of using a.i. duplicate voices of actors. but in a a statement, sag said, quote, in addition to establishing minimum terms and conditions, the agreement insures performer consent and negotiation for uses of their digital voice double and requires that performers have the opportunity to opt out for use in new works. what do you think of a deal like that? >> well, i think it certainly makes a lot of sense for the act
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ors, you know? i think that in dealing with much of the technology that we have and will have in the coming years, we really cannot lose sight of the human element. i i mean, we humans are on the earth, we've got to eat and drink water to survive. have our jobs, and and so we don't want machines taking over totally. and it might be a great temptation for, you know, very, very wealthy corporations to say, well, it'd be much easier to deal with a machine than a human -- [laughter] and so i don't know where everything is headed, but i certainly hope that they do take some -- the human element into consideration. liz: well, it's interesting, you know, we found some examples of voices that replica studios has put together. i want you to listen, these are a.i.-generated voices, and then we'll talk about it. here they are. >> get to the village. find the girl. she is the key. i've got this.
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go! now. >> jones, take williams and circle around back. i'll keep the dueck boys busy. -- duke boys busy. there aren't many women in this town that can make me blush, except the present company, of course. >> [inaudible] mortal, i am the almighty e trail you shall serve for the rest of eternity. liz: now, some of these have been used in video games, in shows. i think only the the last one was decent -- [laughter] as far as my ear is concerned. but you don't get that sort of texture. when i think of voice toes, i think of when reese witherspoon voiced a book, and she sounded so perfect for it, and, you know, i listened on audio. it would kind of be weird, wouldn't it? do you think that people will end up getting used to it, or they will always be able to tell the difference?
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>> hmm, that's a good question. if people do get used to things, that's for sure. that's what change is all about, you know? change -- new things are introduced, and people are a little uncomfortable at a first and then gradually they accept it. at this point in time, i don't think that they have a.i. voices that are as human sounding as a real humans. it's tough to get that little, the little subtleties in human speech. but they're very, very close, and it's only going to get better is and better. so, yeah, i think we're definitely going to have to deal with this issue -- [laughter] liz: susan, before we go, this is just a gut question from me. did you ever reach out to apple and say, can you guys compensate me a little bit for my voice that is now in every phone? >> yeah. well, i was first on the original siri voice on the
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iphone 4s in 2001, and i talked to different lawyers about it, and it just -- it was, it was a dead end. and, you know, apple is aware of the fact that we're unhappy, but it's just, it's not an issue for them. you know in it was an issue for us, those of us whose voices became so ubiquitous and they're just everywhere, and everyone becomes familiar with our voices. they don't, they don't always hear siri in my voice when i just use my regular daily, speaking voice, but when with i go like this, it's like, hi, yes, this is the real original suri. [laughter] suri. and so that's -- [laughter] that way, you know -- liz: can you just -- >> -- it did have an effect on my voiceover career. now, there were other factors as well. but, yeah, it's kind of disturbing when your voice is so well known that it's very difficult to do auditions unless you're doing an audition for
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something that's a character voice. no one would ever, you know, hear the siri in your audition. liz: yeah. >> so, yeah, it's been interesting. but on the other hand, i always like to think of this as a life lesson. i was horrified when i first found out that i was the voice of siri. liz: true. well -- >> and i learned to embrace it, and i started a whole new career because of it, and that was very much thanks to my wonderful agent at vox in atlanta. and that is to do speaker events. so is i've had a lot of fun doing that. i've been to croatia, australia -- [laughter] all different places talking about sirh -- siri. so i can't really complain. liz: good. okay. i love it, i love it. as we say good-bye, can you just say you're watching "the claman countdown" on fox business in the siri voice. >> oh, i'm so sorry. if i do that, you will have to pay me. [laughter] liz: sounds exactly like her! see, she did learn, you guys.
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she did learn from the earlier -- [laughter] the earlier mistake. but the it's a happy accident now. susan bennett, the real siri, thank you so much. it's been really interesting. we appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. thank you. bye-bye. liz: see, she's smart. fox business with alert, the eaglet has landed. look at intuitive machines. ticker symbol lunr jumping about 19%, blasting off after the houston-based space exploration company made history by becoming the first commercial if outfit to put a spacecraft on the moon. intuitive machines made contact with its lunar lander called odysseus, and early this morning it did experience some issues, but all is good. the lander does have cameras. the company's working to process the freshest images and release them to the public. odysseus is expected to operate for up to seven days on the
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lunar surface where it will take photos and collect scientific data. before the landing site plunges into lunar night where the freezing temperatures are so low, it will make the vehicle inoperable. investors are booking out of booking holdings after the online travel agent a guided for slower bookings growth in the current quarter. bookings expects 5-7%, compare that to 44% a year earlier. why is that? well, that was fueled by post-covid is revenge travel which has calmed down a bit. shares are on pace for their biggest daily percentage drop since march 2020, and they are falling about 10.5%. caravan a that shares, on the other hand, zooming higher. let's take a look at carvana, popping 32.6% at the moment, on pace to close at a 1-year high after the online used car retailer reported its first ever annual profit. the company known for its car vending ma machines making a big u-turn after the steep post-pandemic drop through a
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series of measures that included cost cutting and making debt reduction deals with bondholders. shares are up more than 160% since the agreement was made with bondholders back in july. we should look at her qada look ray, the amazon of latin america. shares are on pace for their largest percentage decline since may of 2022. that's because the e-commerce provider posted a fourth quarter earnings miss, atranscripting the miss to the one-off tax hits. but if you put the muss aside, the company saw a 57% climb in the total volume of payments handled by its fin-tech arm. investors aren't focusing on that though, they're cutting and running, down about 10.33% for mpli. the race for the white house focusing on the palmetto state tomorrow as former president donald trump faces off against former south carolina governor nikki haley in her own home state. former south carolina democratic governor jim hodges and form
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former republican party chair barry wynn are here to tell us if tomorrow's primary is a maker or break affair for their former governor. and one of the most popular comic es in the nation actually found early success all around the carolinas as he tried his expertise on stage. scott carrot top thompson is my guest on this week's everyone talks to liz podcast. carrot top is known for his stand-up company that involves pulling problems from large trunks, describing it in one-liners and tossing them away but, of course, his red hair makes him mano a mano with the liz claman readhead. carrot top's been making las vegas crowds laugh nonstop since 2005. he is crushing it at the luxor, but his own family back when he was a kid told him, wait a minnesota, you want to do that? you're not funny. how did he do it? and how did he come up with the famous carrot top nickname? well, from one redhead to
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another, i really hope you listen because it's a great one. you can it -- get it on apple, google, spotify, iheart radio, and it drops tomorrow anywhere you get your podcasts. okay, the dow jones industrials heading for another all-time record. it's gaining 96 points at the moment. leading the dow heat map we've got amazon at the very top. and apple at the very bottom -- sorry, amgen, amgen at the very top and, of course, apple at the very bottom. we are coming right back with so much more on "the claman countdown. ". ♪ ♪ clinic, we pride ourselves on putting others first. it's on us to help care for our clients' well-being; to help them adapt. it's inspiring to work at a place where our patients succeed. and we as therapists do, too. with great benefits from principal, we feel appreciated for the work we do.
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ahead of her home tate's primary tomorrow. the former south carolina governor working to rally supporters to the polls and take on former president donald trump. we can flip this camera and show you a live picture where former president trump is expected to hold a rally in rock hill, south carolina. that's at 4 p.m. eastern. trump has largely held a lead over nikki haley, and the latest polling by suffolk university and "usa today" shows that south carolina republican primary voters are siding with trump by 63% while haley pulls in 35% of the vote. if does the former south carolina governor have any chance in her home state? polls can sometimes be wrong, but this looks way out of whack here. joining me now in a fox business exclusive, former governor of south carolina, democrat jim hodges,9 and the former south carolina republican party chair barry wynn. barry, i'll toss this to you first. do you see any pathway for nikki
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haley to win south carolina, and then, you know, she said even if she doesn't, she's going to forge ahead. >> well, i think right now it looks like it's going to be a tough race here in south carolina for nikki, but i do think she should stay in the race for several reasons. number one, she's getting better, i think, every time she gets out there. she seems to be better. she's more comfortable, she's got a better message, she's more crisp. so i think that's one thing. the second is i don't think she'll ever, even if she doesn't win and she goes to the convention and she's in second place, i don't think she'll be blamed if trump loses, you know, next election because if you remember back in '76 when reagan ran against ford, a lot of people felt like he should drop out, he shouldn't go to the convention, he was going to hurt ford, but he kept saying he was a better candidate than ford. and sure enough, jimmy carter beat ford, and no one blamed ray
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fan for that. in fact -- reagan for that. in fact, he became the undisputed head of the republican party afterwards. and we all know he had a landslide victory in 1980. i don't see any reason why she needs to be in a hurry to get out. she's getting better, and if she can finish better than expected tomorrow, there's every reason in the world for her to stay in the race. liz: governor hodges, you know from upset victim -- victories. back in the day when you ran against i believe it was david beasley, the republican, he was the incumbent governor, and you pulled off an upset e, and you beat him. to me, this looks a little insurmountable at least for this particular state, but as you look through your lens of what you've been able to accomplish in your political career, does nikki haley beyond south carolina stand an opportunity to grab this in any way, shape or form? >> i think it's going to be really hard for her in south carolina and beyond. the truth is that republican
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primary voters have shown when candidates talked about having trumpism without trump, the fact of the matter is the primary voters sort of like the chaos expect combativeness of donald trump -- and the combativeness of donald trump. i think pretty clearly this is trump's party right now. it's a different party than it was in 1976 and a different party than it was in 2016. so i, i think it's going to be hard. for her to do better here, i think she's going to have to overperform along the coast with college-educated voters. trump's hold on blue collar voters is pretty strong in the state. and probably depend on some independents and maybe some democrats to cross over. but it looks to me, liz, like this is an election where the question is whether the margin will be so great that it puts pressure on her to exit or whether the margin will be narrow enough that it'll enable her to claim victory and move on
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to super tuesday. liz: a lot of polls show, barry, that nikki haley would do better against joe biden than former president trump would. certainly, the polls bear out one thing, 70% of america does not want to see a biden-trump rematch. they want fresh faces. and if you look at the tenor of the entire country, what do you make of that? and do you think that the republican party needs to be a little more open-minded? although it appears they're gaining some traction with some minority groups. >> well, i think there are two points that we need to think about. one is that i think that usually candidates get out of races not when they do poorly, or but when today run out of money. and nikki seems to be pretty successful right now in raising money, so i don't think she's going to be needing to get out anytime soon. and i really think that there's every reason in the world, as i say, for her to stay in this race. i do think the longer we go in
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this campaign more people are going to be thinking about who can win and if not who is their favorite candidate. no one wants to lose in no. in november. and i think the more this race goes on, the martha -- the more that voter who is interested in winning in november is going to be a more prominent part of the electorate. liz: jim, 59% of adults -- this is the latest gallup poll -- disapprove of president joe biden right now. this is among adults. you know, i know that in powerful democratic circles not necessarily inside the white house, they have discussed who else might be a better candidate. it doesn't look like president biden has any intention of pulling his hat out of the ring, but there's talk about gavin newsom of california, gretchen whitmer of michigan. you know, who do you looked at and say that person could be a donald trump? >> well, there's only one person who has, and that's joe biden. [laughter]
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and i think that's part of the reason why he insists he wants to remain in the race. you know, there are plenty of other -- there's some exciting younger democratic candidate that are out there, but biden has, is the one who has run a race against donald trump. and i think when biden gets the chance to tell his story a little more, the economy is improving, productivity is up in our country, stock market's been up, there are a lot of good things that are going on. if i could be critical of one thing, i think they don't do enough to explain issues in ways that people can talk about around the dinner table. that's going to improve as we move toward november. so i think biden, if we're going with a known commodity and one that has proven he can one the race e against trump. and, liz, i do believe at the end of the day this is going to be a trump or not trump election. and i think that's going to make the difference in how people vote in the fall. liz: okay. jim hodges, barry wynn, good to talk to you. the south carolina primary kicks
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off tomorrow, and fox news is going to be all over that. thank you both very much. fair and balanced right here on "the claman countdown." >> thank you. liz: you're welcome. it's been a great month for semiconductor stocks. check out the ishares semiconductors etf, a basket of semiconductor names and equipment makers. it's called the sox. it's flat today but month to date it's been up 8.if 8%, and it's an even better picture year to date and year over year. today's countdowndown closer thinks there's more room to grow outside of the nvidia bubble. yeah, some chip makers that aren't necessarily in nvidia's atmosphere. the nasdaq closing in on its first record of the year with, palo alto networks after yesterday's big fall, zscaler, copart, adobe systems all in the green. we're back in a second. ♪
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>> it would appear to be a little pushback against the securities and exchange commission, 2 trillion-dollar crypto industry, is turning up t heat during the tables on the
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government but taking the sec, to court and muscular charlie and were they doing. charlie: yes wealth list, things were that is a concerted effort and i have never really seen this before listen, usually when industries come the sec, like knuckle under you know what i mean wall street today with vanessa new lobbying and yes, they try to do these things but you know they generally write the check the move on. we are not seeking that on the crypto industry and we see what is been described to us by people both in the industry is on the lobby groups and the industry is a concerted effort, especially to fight back against government regulatory but i think it's government regulatory overreach by the sec the places and again, this, hit is both legal and lobby. in a legal standpoint, and i have tracking and bitcoin minor, and filing lawsuits against the sec, and both have been lit we
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understand emboldened it, by ripples, have victory and grayscale victory by the sec in court, to the grayscale to get that allowed to do bitcoin etf. again, legal expert say nothing this before. they variant and some really amazing stuff on this by producer, critically as it pertains to how the crypto industry will congress seeking like-minded people in congress, that support the crypto industry and people like, and that the financial services committee and essentially to help them fight back against his overreach. so again, legal lobbying and it is pretty fascinating. and you don't comes as john deaton of crypto lawyer from his running against one of the biggest crypto antagonist in the world, elizabeth warren, for her first senate seat come november. so interesting of all of us legal lobbying and in this
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deacons his political and is back to you. liz: well charlie, thank you very much numerous interesting guys gives we come up against the top of the hour here come the closing bell and we are still at records for the dow the s&p, and utilities are the later today along with materials and industrials. not tech at least like it was yesterday. the meter amateurs are up for the week on this friday and there are six week hire of the last 70 let's get out of our countdown closer with three or 75 billion in assets under management joining me now is investment co- cio dana d'auria dana, tell you the taft rallies is getting a a little bit gray around the edges. >> will i don't know but i think that is getting right actually i think probably has legs you know like anything else, this would be some starts there. dana: such a blowout that of the video you know we would expect some level of additional breath of the market in the days to come but no i do not think that there is a lot on harboring that
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the immediate term is when a knock at the tech rally and certainly not from an a.i. perspective. liz: are you looking at all the possibility that these markers are definitely cruising along, and the earning supported certainly dana but in the end, there could be an event some type of blocks wonder what is going on the world out there, they could start this. dana: you're absolutely right. i thank you so really interesting what is going on the market south and thank you so a you know kind of nvidia in the tire ecosystem run a.i. the different companies out there having massive explosion name and the growth in stock-price growth, the holdings the computer company's like that where they're all benefiting from this a.i. and i think see you gotcha and tina thank you and folks another record for the dow, and it looks like for the s&

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