david: and that's all for for this special petition of kudlow," thank you for watching. liz macdonald, tonight i hand it to you. elizabeth: thank you, david, appreciate it. thank you so much. we've got this story coming n a growing and major controversy over hunter biden's testimony before house impeachment managers. it was a closed door deposition

hillary vaughn is, she's got the latest details on capitol hill. hillary, good to see you. >> reporter: good to be with you, liz. hunter biden has left capitol hill. the closed door deposition is over. we did hear from if chairman comer after this wraps that the next step for in this impeachment inquiry is going to be the public hearing with hunter biden that him and his team requested. we're also expecting the full transcript of everything that was discussed behind closed doors today to be released at some point, and we expect that there will actually be something for us to read, because hunter biden did not plead the fifth. in fact, he answered all of lawmakers' questions in detail. and democrats though think the takeaway from what they heard behind closed doors today is that hunter baden has been vindicated. -- biden has been vindicated. >> we are poring over loss of e-mails and texts to try to torture out some mean being that doesn't exist there. >> he has gone text by text,

e-mail by e-mail, innuendo by innuendo and completely debunked all of the conspiracy theories that the the republicans have been peddling for the last year. >> reporter: republicans questioned hunter biden today about texts they obtained where hunter threatened a chinese business partner and mentioned multiple times that he was sitting with his father, joe biden, and expecting a call with his e dad. hunter biden alluded to these communications in his opening remarks saying, quote: republicans is have take my communications out of context. examples include a few refers to my families in e-mails or or texts that i sent when i was in the darkest days of my addiction. republicans in the room say the addiction does not explain what he was actually paid by these overseas businessmen to do. >> there was no response when he was pressed of how in the world was he actually delivering and making all of this money -- of course he was selling the brand. and you can't hide behind the fact that you had aa diggs.

you can't say on the one hand, hey, i didn't even know that i might be sending something about a text saying, oh, my father is next to maine i'm not sure about all of that because, you know, i'm under the influence. how did you know he wasn't sitting next to you? >> reporter: and one of the reasons haunter biden -- hunter biden resisted this interview in the first place is he was concerned there would be select i leaks coming out of the deposition and a transcript wouldn't be released. but it turns out it was democrats just an hour into this closed door interview that came out of the room and went to the microphone and told the press everything that was going on in there. liz? elizabeth: hillary, great reporting as always from you. we appreciate you very much and your journalism. let's bring in from house oversight congressman pat fallon to. it's good to see you again. so you were in today's deposition with hunter biden. what did he say he was selling? did he say anything about how his father profited off the family's $24 million deals in that's e what hay made overseas

selling the biden family brand around the world? did he say anything whatsoever? >> el, liz, it was a lot of gobbledygook. i sat in if on all seven and a half hours or so of the proceedingsings and the deposition and was able to actually question him directly myself as well. he didn't say anything new. he just said that he was, if we presented him with something that was very troubling, he just would say he was whacked out of his mind, probably high at the time. he's not sure if it's accurate or if it's a real -- like, for instance, the whatsapp, the message where he threatened the chinese businessman, if it's real, he was really high at the time, so we didn't get anywhere. elizabeth: so that's not flying much anymore, the addition excuse. again,ty -- addiction excuse. there's a pattern here, congressman . multiple times joe bind was called in to be the closer with deals on hunter. watch chair comer here. >> i think we've established a

pattern, a pattern that joe biden did communicate with every single person that wired his family millions and millions of dollars. we've uncovered a pattern that they were selling the brand. that's what we've learned in all of our interviews and depositions. anytime they were pitching themselves to a foreign government or a foreign actor, they would put joe on the phone. elizabeth: okay. we've got some breaking news coming in. it's u.s. supreme court will talk on the trump immunity claip immunity claim, it looks like the election subversion trial. your reaction to this breaking news. >> wow. i think that, you know, when scotus decides to weigh in on something this important p i'm actually glad to hear this news. it's very unexpected. maine elizabeth so let's move back to hunter biden. >> sure. let's elizabeth it looks like he's moving the goalpost saying his father was not involved. he previously said he never spoke to his father. you guys are saying we've seen the white house visitor logs, text messages, phone calls, photos, witness testimony showing the president did know.

have you -- are you getting any other proof that he was really involved, do you know it, do you see it? >> yeah, liz, that's one thing that hunter biden didn't -- did say is, he absolutely admitted it's a distinct possibility he may have been on the phone with his father, on the speakerphone with his business associates, and he didn't say that was anything out of the ordinary because if it happened two or three times a year for ten years, then he just explained that's normal, normal way of doing business. i piped in and said i've never had dinner with my if dad in -- and my business associates. he finds it to be rather normal. i also pressed him on the parent of you get millions of dollars, you or the companies -- because there's several shell companies in his dealings with him and his business partners. there's millions of dollars, then you set up a meeting with these folks that that give you millions of dollars with vice presidential father. that that's a pattern that's happened four different times that we just went over today. i said isn't that a bit concerning? or how about burisma? that you make this million

dollars a year, and suddenly your boss, the chairman of the board of burisma, the prosecutor that's investigating him gets fired and your dad has a portfolio that oversee ises ukraine for the obama administration. elizabeth breath what did he say he was selling? you guys pressed him on that. what were his words? >> at one point he said that, for instance, burisma hired him, liz, and i quote for the corporate governance that he could provide is, even though he has not been -- he didn't is have any experience at all in the energy sector. in fact, he'd never even visited ukraine. he did that that turned oath as well. then he started talking about geopolitics and basically insinuating because he was on the board of brees marxing i guess ukraine was going to be safe from vladimir putin? and if then he talked about with cefc, the chinese company, how he was going to help them with lng exports and getting terminals put in. by the way, they never put in one terminal. they didn't do anything. elizabeth: yeah. >> it was all -- we don't know what he did. i don't think he knows --

elizabeth: did he explain the president getting $240,000 worth of checks from biden family members after they sealed, you know, deals with business partners that brought in millions? did he axe plain why these -- explain why these checks were coming in the form of payment of loans? >> liz, great minds think alike, because that is preicely the question that that i asked him, was about the $200,000 from americorps to his uncle, or jim bind, that on the same day gave it to his father joe biden. he said he had no knowledge of it, i said, yeah, but you know that it happened. he did admit he knew that it happened in the press. why doesn't your father just show the original loan document and the canceled check? he hasn't because it never if existed. elizabeth: thank you, congressman fallon, for joining us tonight. it is good to see you again. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: we're going to stay on this breaking news and bring in former michigan gubernatorial candidate tudor dixon. this breaking news, the supreme court, tudor, is just coming in

moments ago, the supreme court will take up former president trump's immunity claim in the federal 2020 case. what is your reaction to that? >> fantastic news for president trump. he's been going through so much with these court cases, and it's time that we have the supreme court weigh in on some of these issues, and i think this is great news for him. i think this is good news considering the other news he got today. elizabeth: so the news is, is that basically he can claim he was president, he had immunity against what the charges are. this could also bleed into other cases as well including the classified documents case. >> right, absolutely. and so this will be a clear decision. it will be a clear decision from the highest court in the land. whatever the decision is, obviously, one side or the other on the politics side will probably not be happy, but there's no disputing that when this branch of government mix a decision, it is final. -- mix a decision, it is final. elizabeth: former president

trump won your home state of michigan, his sixth straight win. but the big story is what do you make of the huge democrat boycott vote against joe biden? 101,000 votes. that could swing, if it stays like that, could swing for trump in the general election, it could swing michigan especially when we see rfk jr., cornel west jill stein splitting away the vote from joe biden. what do you think? >> yeah, this is absolutely the biggest story today. and for folks who aren't covering it the way they should, that's a shame because you have michigan democrats who are out to get out the vote. they had said this wasn't going to have an impact. they were going to get out the vote. you had even the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer, phone banking and taking videos, doing the whole media circuit for thing weekend saying we're going to get the vote out for joe biden. this is a number that loses for him in the general election. if we see numbers and percentages like this in the general election, michigan is going to go to republicans hands

down. that is terrifying to them because they say, oh, this was just a test in the primary. rashida tlaib is serious, and she is stubborn, and she does not tow the party line when she doesn't agree. she's not going to let this go, and these folks are serious about this too. this issue's not going away for joe biden. elizabeth: trump won michigan in 2016. he lost it in 2020. michigan is home, as you know, to a large community of muslim-americans, 146 of whom voted for biden in 2020. some are saying, wait a second. it's not just gaza. they have to work two jobs to make ends meet because of historic inflation. they never had to do that before. it's nearly 18% compounded inflation. watch the media reacting in shock to the boycott vote against joe biden in the michigan primary. watch this. >> big muslim community in in michigan. they are not happy with the way that joe biden has been handling the situation in gaza. and you also have a lot of young people of color, especially african-americans and african-american men if that are

just frustrated in general with the state of things. >> an uncommitted -- make sure i get this right -- 3,703 so that's a wow. this is a place president biden carried bigtime in 2020. this is key to his chances at defeating donald trump in michigan. >> this isen -- this is an issue not just with the arab-american community, but with younger votes which is a problem for biden nationally. i think it's one of the reasons why he was eager to say yesterday that he thought a ceasefire was within reach. elizabeth: within reach, a ceasefire in gaza. tudor, here's the question, whether suburban women, millennials, the youth vote will go for donald trump. they went for joe biden. now, this is the issue whether third party democrat candidates, as we talked about rfk jr., jill stein, cornel west, could hurt

biden. let me back up. trump's lead over biden grows by 7 points in swing states like arizona and georgia. when those third party candidates are factored in against joe biden. that's according to real clear polling averages. what do you think? >> absolutely. this is going to hurt joe biden. i mean, we don't even have to have a third party candidate. we have people who are just voting against him to vote against him. he's the third party candidate. it's good news for republicans, it's good news on the women front, it's good news on the student front, and it's good news on the muslim-american front for republicans in michigan and probably elsewhere. elizabeth: got it. tudor dixon, thank you so much. it's good to have you on tonight. we're going to stay on this breaking news. the supreme court will be hearing, is taking up the case for trump's immunity claim in the federal 2020 election interference case. so that story, we're going to stay on it. we've got congresswoman claudia tenney, the federalist's margo clee areland, gop strategist ford o'connell and jake ken on the, big tech expert from the --

the white house tries and fails to spin the president not getting a cognitive test today in his annual check-up. we have got the gao uncovers a major new fraud if by government workers that were caught stealing billions of dollars in benefits from the government health plan. we're going to break it down. "the new york times" now warning, it's a big warning, china's cheaper electric cars are, quote, a scrugger naught about -- juggernaut if about to hit detroit like a wrecking ball. biden's failed electric vehicle mandates here could trigger a second auto industry bailout. plus, former state department spokesperson orr ash morgan ortagus is here, former president trump and both president biden are heading to the texas border tomorrow. but will president biden acknowledge texas' big success in stopping illegal crossings after biden's doj sued texas?

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just last year migrants poured by the thousands through this processing center just behind me. you can see them here lining up in this video that was shot from may. but two days ago only 12 encounters recorded here. sources tell us border crossings are still happening, they're just not happening here. migrants are now shifting west after texas install the installed -- installed barriers and fences around brownsville. ing the residents say they're grateful to the state. >> the pattern's change where there's least resistance, and right now texas is putting up a fight. i hope other states notice that because it can make a difference. when your state stands up and fights for you when the federal government will not do it, it makes a difference. >> reporter: it will be president biden's second visit to the border when he comes here after he's faced scorching criticism from republicans for not coming to the border when migrant end counters hit an all-time record high in december. but the lifelong brownsville resident we spoke with doesn't

want another presidential visit. instead, she wants border policies from the prior administration reinstated. >> it's very simple, this is not a complex if problem. close the border. start vetting people. go back to our policies that we had during the trump administration. >> reporter: and she's not alone. we have a new poll from monmouth that shows for the first time ever a majority of americans, 53%, say they support building a border wall. we'll send it back to you. elizabeth: lydia hu, thank you so much. you know, the crossings at the border near browns brownsville have dropped to just about a dozen yesterday. they were in the thousands. let's welcome to the show former state department spokesperson morgan ortegus. morgan, it's great to see you. what do you think of this story? >> well, liz, it's -- listen, if you look at the border writ large, it's not surprising whenever you see the number, the millions of people that are coming across this border illegally. and as your reporters have talked about too, you know, we spend so much of our time

talking about or seeing the pictures of the illegal migrants coming over. if you look at different estimates, we could be at 6 million, 7 million, at least a million and a half that have evaded apprehension, 300 on the terror watch list. and i'll say bill melugin from fox keeps reporting the number of violent crimes that are committed by these illegal migrants. it's just devastating to see. and as i tweeted last night, liz, ooh i'm not sure how we thought we were going to let millions of people into this country and this would be no ramifications for us. elizabeth: house judiciary's putting out numbers, more than 600,000 criminal illegal aliens, more than 600,000, are now in the u.s. let's back up, morgan, remember this, these comments there if then-candidate biden on the campaign trail in 2020? watch this. >> i would, in fact, make sure that there is -- we needly surge to the border all those people who are seeking asylum.

>> vice president biden, you opposed sanctuary cities as a presidential candidate in 2007. where do you stand now? should undocumented immigrants arrested by local blitz be turned over to immigration -- police be turned over to inflation officials? >> why go to a border state and not visit the border? >> because there are more important things going on. elizabeth: he said he would surge the border, he said there are more important things going on than going to the border. now he's going. mayor ganger his white house is getting a lot of blowback after the murder of georgia nursing student laken riley. we're showing the payor of athens in georgia getting heckled over this, over what happened with this murder. again, 600,000 criminal illegal aliens are now inside the u.s. according to house judiciary. what do you say? >> and also, you know, it's not just the illegal aliens, that's a big problem. we're catching enough fentanyl to kill every single american. so it is the drugs.

and also, by the way, or it's the human trafficking and the terrible treatment of the women who think that they are coming and making this a pilgrimage to the united states and that they're coming for a better life that are being raped and trafficked on the way here. listen are, you should not have to live in a community where you are worried about going on a jog because of an illegal alien. and so to -- every single person in this 7 million, are they violent criminals? no. but it's wreaking havoc in our cities that people are in fear. you see the number of venezuelans coming over. it looks that essentially maduro, another despot dictator, has seen, you know what? we can just send people through. now the number one minority group coming true the southern border are chinese d through the southern border, especially chinese if men. they're getting the information from tiktok. so, listen, i cover foreign poicialtion cover defense, national security. there is no greater threat to the homeland than an open and undefended border -- elizabeth: and the other thing

too that's happening -- that's happening too, morgan, 85,000 the illegal immigrant children have gone missing. there's fears they've been sex trafficked. that's a disaster. senators mitch mcconnell and senator john thune, they're calling for the to proceed to an impeachment trial against homeland security secretary mayorkas. senators manchin, tester and other democrat senators oppose that. your final word on that. >> i think that the democrat senators don't want a light shone on what's happening. but unfortunately for the democrats, it's the not just fox business and fox news reporting it now. now you're seeing it on your local tv stations, on your local radio stations because so much is happening. and and it's important to remember that there is no historical precedent for what is happening at the southern border, for the rate at which mayorkass and biden are letting people illegally into this country, for the rate at which the people who are on the terror watch list are coming into this country. philadelphia elizabeth got it. >> in which drugs are entering this country. there is no historical

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elizabeth: okay, we're staying on this breaking news, let's welcome from the federalist magazine, margot cleveland. it's a pleasuring having you on again. what do you make of the u.s. supreme court taking on former president trump's immunity claim in special counsel jack smith's 2020 case? >> it's great news for former president trump. it is going to delay the trial, and at some point it could prevent is it from actually going forward at all. elizabeth: you know, it also could hit the classified documents cases too, right? >> you know, it could because one of the things to keep in mind here is the supreme court granted cert to decide whether or not are -- any of the claims of immunity are going to be valid. so the media in general is saying this is about trump's

broad claim of immunity. the supreme court is saying it's whether and how much immunity e he has. elizabeth: okay, margot, this is another shocking fraud. the xao -- gao uncovered a massive fraud by government worker stealing up to $3 billion in government health benefits from the federal health benefits program. they were fraudulently enrolling people like their ex-wives and friends. they caught people at the transportation department, the justice department and the u.s. army doing it. what do you think? >> well, you know, what i think is that it's pretty ironic that we have joe biden doing the same thing with his student loan giveaways. so of course the american public is going to feel that they can steal and rip off the taxpayers. why shouldn't they? we have president biden basically saying, here, student loans, they're paid off. even though the supreme court has said it's unconstitutional. elizabeth: yeah, that's right.

and you know what? voters don't like the feeling of lawlessness. it makes them feel unsafe. you know, this fraud by government workers stealing from the health benefits program comes after thousands, literally thousands of government workers were caught stealing tens of millions of dollars in pandemic jobless benefits. we're talking homeland security workers, tsa workers, fema workers, people at am track, the irs and postal a service, also secret service employees. now getting back to this fraud, the benefits fraud, a transportation department worker enrolled fraudulently both his sister and niece for 12 years. he claimed they were his wife and stepchild. a u.s. army worker in alabama kept his ex-wife covered for 14 years. he tried to add his new wife, that's when he was caught. a justice department worker added her friend and their four children claiming they were family members. the gao found the office of personal management is not checking their eligibility status and won't even do an

audit, margot, like california and new jersey does. >> that is pretty ridiculous. it's very low hanging fruit to require or proof that someone is a spouse, proof that someone is east a child -- either a child by birth or by adoption. it should be a matter of course anytime anyone is added on the new employment. and at this point, it should be done by office and mandated that they prove this. and they should prosecute heavily. even though i can understand, you know, the populace seeing the administration doing it, it is a crime, it should be stopped. and it is billions that we're talking about. elizabeth: you know what? the u.s. taxpayer gets angry when they see their taxes going up, and this waste, fraud and abuse. thank you so much, margot cleveland, we appreciate you. and we're excited to now having on the show congresswoman claudia tenney from house science, spaces and technology. congresswoman, it's so good to see you again. we love having you on. what do you make of "the new york times" out with this bombshell? this is a setback, a new one,

for the president's electric mandates for all of america to buy electric cars. "the new york times" is saying china is a juggernaut, cheaper electric cars at just $11,000 will hit detroit like a wrecking ball. they're warning this could trigger a second u.s. auto try bailout in just 15 years because of what the white house is doing. >> well, this is obviously a disaster, and and we of course, you know, china's economy is struggling, but they subsidize their economy, and they don't care about their people. so they can do whatever they want in an author authoritarian -- authoritarian regime. that's why i joined 40 members of the house to say -- 140 members of the house to say you got to back off this epa regulation that's going to force americans to buy evs at such high prices. and also they're dangerous right now. not to mention the fact that germany is removing subsidies. so you're seeing audi and mercedes backing off of their use of evs.

and another big problem that we're not talking about is new york state has a mandate on school buses. and they can be very dangerous, especially where i live in the cold part of the state. kids could get stranded on an ev. elizabeth: yeah, that's dangerous, what you just said, congresswoman. that's an important point. they're also very, very heavy. electric car batteries are very heavy, going to tear up all the infrastructure the president's spend money on, roads, highways and bridges. here's the thing, why didn't the biden white house see what toyota that and china is already saying the way to go, plug-in hybrid cars that still use gasoline? >> i don't think they look at anything practically. if you look at the energy emission, the energy czar there, he is all in for 100% zero. they're listening to john kerry, you know? he's been very motivated in getting the democrats and joe biden to do just a really harsh net zero immediately which is unsustainable, and it's going to be impractical, and people are

going to get hurt and even die if this continues. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, the middle and lower class worker can't afford these expensive cars. byd, china's byd, again, 11 grand a pop. their growth is astonishing, congresswoman. 3 million electric vehicles last year, more than any other company. and now they've got, you know, they're blowing out factories, and they're building in brazil, china -- excuse me, brazil, thailand, hungary and uzbekistan. so they're really cranking it out there. it looks like the biden white house put america behind the 8-ball here. >> of course they did, and they always do. this is going to be a huge problem, and it's going to be a campaign issue. and i think it's why you've seen so many traditionally democrat-leaning, especially union groups hike the teamsters now endorsing president trump instead of biden. let's see what they do in michigan with some of these huge union auto unions. they're getting hurt the most by this ev push, and they may actually turn the other way too, and michigan's a swing state,

and it's going if to be in play this year. elizabeth: congresswoman tenney, we appreciate you. >> thank you, appreciate it. elizabeth: coming up, top tech agent jake denton, a colossal 'em barrett for left-wing workers in silicon valley. google's goes boss says it's completely unacceptable google workers created artificial intelligence that is generating historically false images in order to show diversity. creating racially-diverse historical figures like the u.s. founding fathers, even the pope. and a major new warning from a.i. and election experts. artificial intelligence will hit the vote in the 2024 race. but first, we want to check in with my buddies jackie deangelis who's filling in for dagen, and we've got sean duffy, what you cot -- got coming up? sean: hey, e-mac, good to see you. mitch mcconnell's giving up the top spot in the senate at the end of the year as well as ron that mcdan cell leaving the rnc.

we have former speaker of the house kevin mccarthy joining us as well as hunter biden behind closed doors, oversight committee member scott perry here to discuss. jackie: and brandon is going to be at the border with former president trump tomorrow, not with the current president. and the white house just can't explain exactly what the president's going to be doing down there. meantimeing steve moore will be here too. we're talking about the media and this last ditch attempt to try to justify what's happened with the border. and you will never believe what they're saying. they're saying immigrants are saving the u.s. economy. top of the hour. we'll see you then. ♪ the award-winning trading platforms. bring your trades into focus on thinkorswim desktop with robust charting and analysis tools, including over 400 technical studies. tailor the platforms to your unique needs with nearly endless customization. and track market trends with up-to-the-minute news and insights. trade brilliantly with schwab.

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i like watching the puddles gather rain. -hey, your mom and i procreated to that song. oh, ew! i think you've said enough. why don't we just switch to xfinity like everyone else? then you would know what year it was. i know what year it is. elizabeth: let's get you updated on this very important story. it is a major new embarrassment for far left workers at google. their boss, sundar pichai, he's had it with them after they created artificial intelligence that was fabricating, it's called fabricating false image ifs of historical figures by changing their race and gender. why? to hoe diversity. kelly to grady's been all over this breaking story on this important piece of journalism. she's in new york city with more. >> reporter: hey there, liz. even more unbelievable that google has said they plan to relaunch this service in just a few weeks. that's a rather quick

turn-around. engineers i've spoken to, they're saying it could be guardrails in the software they'd have to fix, some are saying neat to fully retrain the a.i. but in that memo, pichai did say they are working around the clock, and he did admit that the company got it wrong when it came to the errors in gemini's responses. going forward he said, quote, we'll be driving a clear set of actions including structural change, updated product guidelines, improved launch processes, red e teaming and technical recommendations. we're looking across all of this and will make the necessary changes. seems like a lot to get done in a few weeks, but we will see. i am going to note pichai didn't apologize in that e-mail. even with the chat bot unable to condemn pedophilia as wrong. the stock is taking a hit today but has lost $109 billion in the last 5 days -- trading days. from my experience, this took a long time for pichai to address the issues himself. one reason may be gemini isn't seen as mission critical across the company yet.

sources show -- share that a. a.i. as is looked at as more of an external marketing tool currently. regardless, it's not working. senator hawley is calling for sundar pichai no testify before congress -- to testify before congress again and renewing calls to repeal section 230. i just want to leave you with a quote from senator hawley. he says google gemini looks more and more like big tech's latest efforts to brainwash the country, certainly riling up a lot of folks on capitol hill. elizabeth: interesting quote there. great story and journalism. thank you, kelly o'grady. let's bring back in heritage foundation technology policy research associate, he's really smart, he's jake denton. so, jake, what's your reaction to this report? because again and again we've seen big tech the being accused of manipulating the national if conversation, suppressing ore points of views that they don't agree with. show this tweet from google's them in joy -- gemini senior

director. you're going to see what he said. so there's bias here. voters are not having it. what do you think? >> yeah, you're right. this is more of the same. and, you know, at the end of the day if you read this letter sent out to employees, it seems as though he believes this is an engineering problem, a bug within the code. at the end of the day, this is really just a problem with the engineers and the culture that has captured google and many other companies across silicon valley. this is reflect iftive of the values within these teams, and it's very hard to untangle this and not something you can do in a matter of weeks. elizabeth: this is about disenfranchising people you don't agree with. the, oh, so tolerant, intolerant liberal left is off the trails -- rails here, what's going on here at google. i mean, when you look at what they're doing, it's like they're so open-minded, their brains fell out the back of their head. associated press, we've got to talk about this, this is important. a new warning, a new study conducted by election officials

and artificial intelligence experts, jake, they're warning a.i. could suppress the vote this year in the 2024 race because popular chat bots, a.i. is generating false and misleading information like telling voters to go to a different polling place that doesn't even exist. >> yeah, that's right. a lot of these tools aren't ready for frame time, yet consumers are relying on them for critical pieces of information like where to vote or how to engage in the if democratic process. and so it is incumbent upon these companies to provide disclaimers, tell them that the information they're receiving might not be reliable. that's the bare min if mum, but many of these companies are choosing not to do that. we're setting ourselves up for failure here, and really we can't really see a pathway for this to get resolve ised all that a quickly. so we need those disclaimers as soon as possible. elizabeth: got it. jake denton, thank you so much for joining us. it's good to see you. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: we're staying on the news about the supreme court

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liz: he started just for god always good to see you again and so we make of the u.s. supreme court cover the breaking news earlier this hour it is 20 take a former president trump's presidential immunity claim, and xmas federal putting 20 case and what was your reaction. ford: this was precisely with trump legal team what and how the supreme court, frames it and i come down on this issue, we do not know but we know the probably will not rule as of june which makes a january 6 trial in dc, almost an impossibility because i would

mean that that was started the full summer late in the middle of the presidential election, the energy memorandum said that should never happen. liz: you talk about the classified documents case as well and the immunity claim could follow their let's move on to this for senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, that he will step down as you be later in the senate in november and he's the same age as biden invited is running again, presidential biden will vary for a checkup no cognitive examine again, biting this turning 82 in november and march the white house topspin here. >> do the present take a mental fitness are cognitive test during the story. >> the president was awfully commander-in-chief and he possibly cognitive test every day. every day as he moves from one topic to another topic and try to understand the granular level of these topics sweetie really passes a cognitive test every day, that will apply. ford: good friends with us every which way possible this and as

you know ivc pointed out the 86 percent of americans invited is too old to serve another term and another this is their achilles' heel they were to try everything to deceive the public on this issue. liz: this was going on because the biden campaign is really getting a wall trying to make the 2020 race referendum mantra but is the presidents age issues that keep coming up and you know, biden asked the strategy of do not compare me to the almighty, confirming to the alternative and you know for poll shows his approval are stuck in the 30s gallup will encompass was historically at that level procedure reaction to a people out there are sing and watch this. >> we had entire plans with thousands of workers devoted to building gasoline engines is getting rid of those and so it is a really easy decision for automakers to make her hoping for donald trump on november 5th. >> donald trump is a chance of getting on majority of the labor voters that is ever happened in

the republican party at when you talk of young african-american men, they are looking at donald trump they've never considered voting again but of a fork. liz: did you love forgive nobody think. ford: will of the other 2024, presidential election is a referendum on divided as long as it remains when donald trouble become the 47th president of the notices need to hear labor single and midwestern states michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania, looking about truck because of the devout top of that will break democrats blue all that it will certainly give more than 300 electoral votes but i will say, keep an eye on her voters those that are under 45 african-american about the vote trump our weather the internet devoted all. liz: job by bidens five key issues the economy, ukraine, foreign policy, the border, and you know, inflation is all underwater and turning around the low or below 40 percent, his own of the present a comeback from this. ford: he does talk about

government and they know they can't come back from a in their 20s try to turn this around and scare the emerging public about donald trump, playing abortion is much as they can, rub a rumpus what is you've already seen this come there already trying russian host 3.0 to talk about tell you joe biden is better than trying to bury donald trump, because trump is money in the policy. liz: he just put the pressure again the democrats do in the hunter biden impeachment testimony when you make of that. ford: let me tell you something also they don't want to talk with effects that hunter biden neither because i think that is my corruption, joe biden is already low approval numbers would be even over. liz: thank you tony is tonight for o'connell is good to see you and thank you for watching you have elizabeth mcdonald the dozen for us and even watching the evening edit on foxbusiness and out is over very good friends the bottom line, jacky killian for david literally saw duffy you guys to get our way. >> he was good to see you.