asked how much is each american expected to spend on average on easter, 177? you see the numbers on screen. what is your guess? ashley: the trump bible i would go with number 4, number 2 is 191 and a penny. lauren: 200 $0.10. lou? lou:i will go with 100. stuart: i'm going with $216. [buzzing] stuart: according to the national retail federation consumers will spend $22 billion this year the most of it spent on food and candy. we still have easter eggs? thanks for being on the show, coast-to-coast starts now. neil: how did a cargo ship

power completely fail and one of the largest bridges in this country collapse the day after going after fast-moving develops, some shocking, some very sad. first the latest, six are feared dead from the bridge disaster. the ntsb has secured the black box so we might get a better idea how this went down in the first place, questions whether dirty fuel played a part in this or whether the nature of huge ships might have produced the environment for this, shipping companies already rerouting around that area, retailers warning about pricing products beyond that area. $10 million of lost income tied to the collapse, insurance based claims of $3 billion according to barclays analysts. all of that is just for starters. let's start with grady trimble,

what he's finding out as well. >> reporter: we know coast guard crews are behind us looking for those victims, officials don't think any of them will have survived to this point. it is rainy and foggy so these are difficult conditions for an already challenging task. of the in tsb is leading the investigation, what caused the ship to lose power in the first place and slam into the key bridge. the coast guard was able to record the flight data recorder, they downloaded what is on that and will start looking over it to see if it gives them any clues. at some point they will look deeper into the ship safety record. inspection reports indicate it may have had issues with gauges and thermometers in the recent past and whether contaminated fuel may have played a role. as far as the economic impact

the port of baltimore is one of the busiest in the country. automakers like ford and general motors and big shipping companies are happening to reroute shipments along the east coast. officials say it's too early to tell when ships can move through and when the bridge -- the biden administration is promising the federal government will foot the entire bill for the rebuild. >> we need to make sure funding is not an obstacle and that we tear down administrative barriers. this will not require an act of congress. we will likely need to their help but the funding is in place. >> reporter: the american trucking association says the detour some trucks take, with costs for trucks traveling through the region.

the closure of the port of baltimore, the maryland chamber of commerce says for every day the port is closed here, that's $15 million the state of maryland is losing, that's just the state of maryland, nevermind the entire country which would be impacting by crippling the supply-chain. neil: a commercial shipping expert and former u.s. navy captain, very good to have you. what do you make of the black box, you know this better than i. that the protocol cargo ships have on safety issues like on trains and planes, tell us what that protocol is and its key points.

>> the thing about this incident, the news uncovers one new facet of potential causes, it's a whole lot more ugliness to dig into, the fuel issue for one, could be a procedural problem of two types of fuel standards on the ship and procedural violation, a material problem or maintenance records. the navigation issue is a nagging question about potential attacks on the ship that could cause problems there with electrical systems. there are no clear answers. the back boxes only provide a small level of what the crew is doing and the performance of the system. it's a long thorough investigation. neil: and looking at what is happening the last couple decades, ships of all sorts

getting larger and larger, certainly cargo ships, but certainly seeing the icon of the seas and the royal caribbean, ship bigger than that one. only limited capacity for these ships and areas where they want to dock. >> it is a problem of logistics, maritime logistics, there's only so many ports we have, three on the east coast and double that on the west coast quote on the east coast, handling the largest container ships. one goes out like we suffered in baltimore, significant ripple effect across the economy. number one port in the nation for items, number 2 in the nation for coal and out here on the other side of the world in japan at the small hours, number 6, coffee.

neil: i was mentioning the ship size, we've had three ships hit bridges in different countries over the last three months. might not be entirely unusual but what do you think? >> wouldn't connect too many dots, the cause of all these collisions with bridges but the problem is how each incident will play out. was a human error? material error? a problem with procedures? the other thing is do the bridges stand up and why? what is coming out right now as i mentioned earlier, everywhere we look, we peel onion layers. it gets uglier and raises more questions. 1977, the bridge was completed, three years before, major catastrophe, 1980, when the bridge collapsed because of a

collision with it. the standard in place to prevent a repeat, fast-forward 2024 we have a repeat and the problem is other bridges could be subject to the same type of collision by these large ships that didn't exist 30 or 40 years ago. neil: thank you, i would love to get you back to this investigation and see what you make of it. the market reaction to this is nonplussed, they are on to other things, not so much focused on this tragedy. there are other supply chain issues to worry about and you are hearing from a lot of crews and related companies redirecting ships around the area and some at great expense to do this. may be a $10 million hit as a result and that could be for starters. let's get to scott radler, the chief strategist. no market impact having to do with of this.

there are other factors but what do you make of these developments that come out of nowhere, dismissed early on, perfectly testified to dismiss as far as economic impact but what about gauging what to buy and what not to buy and whether this is noise? >> you want to see reaction to an event, a black swan or out of the blue. what the market does is it trades and lets you know potentially does it mean something or not mean something? we've had a lot of people, geopolitical scenarios or the war in ukraine going on for two years or so and the market cared for a few weeks and then the horrendous events in israel, the market showed volatility and gathered itself and hit an all-time high last

week. sometimes it is emotional to know their timeframe, whether they change their investment strategy and make some money from miss allocations over emotion and as traders, there is over emotion as of right now, as tragic as it is. neil: a respectable month when it is up 9% during this period. i wonder what you make of what the start of the year looks like. >> it is attenuated at 4.2%, in june i would not think the s&p would be up 9%. 9%. the market does what the market wants to do. we saw little bit away with gains for the rest of the year.

we have to realize how to go from here, measure the action of certain sectors. neil: do you look at technology or others that are great runners. many of these favored plays are under a little pressure here but one day does not a trend make. how do you play that? >> it depends on how active you are. they tried to rebalance the trade, and balances in the last hour because $33 billion for equities to balance the trade between bonds and the s&p happens in the last week, can't make too much of that action but to see where flows are going, new trends develop, nvidia should hold the 70 area,

that is a normal pullback. apple is having a good day because it underperformed, with flows to reversion to the mean but this is trading day today action, doesn't mean next month it will fully change. it is where you need to be focused. some have been very, what's the word, impressive considering everyone says you need lower rates for small caps and trading 207 at a decent quarter and interest rates are relatively -- neil: there is a chasm with the big guys. thank you very much. she's one of the brightest minds in real estate, she famously said the realtor decision about the cost of selling homes likely go down but didn't made the cost of

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>> i look forward to interview my next guest. no one knows real estate better. good to see you. let me ask you, was this realtor's decision. their days are numbered at 6% commission is gone, what does that mean. i want your take. >> there's a lot of confusion around the topic, the most confusion is now commissions are negotiable. they've always been negotiable.

that hasn't changed up. if you are a buyer in the marketplace and need a broker to help you to buy a house, you will get everything in writing, given their cost. that's a good change. even though most workers are doing it anyway. the confusing part is sellers and buyers brokers are not allowed to look up commissions anymore on the mls. i won't pao as a broker. there is no communication other than the mls, brokers are in particular. neil: seller will want to bring it down. >> not necessarily. >> they could be negotiated slightly, not so much. sellers recognize brokers bringing their buyers.

i don't see that as changing at all. how is that communicated? communication caused that. neil: one of the recent comments, the cost of selling homes will likely go down. >> it's very different. and give it to the buyer. and they take any savings, it has been going up. it's been going up the last few years, and house prices have gone up 6%. and not enough houses go around. >> you don't think there's a

comeuppance, there's a torrid run in places like florida, texas was going fast but we hear austin slowing down, florida is hitting a ceiling, don't know if that's the case. what did you think? >> i said something similar to that. i said someone was asking if you could find a great deal of florida anymore, florida is over meaning getting a great deal because prices are still going up and it is the case, it's hard to find a house in florida, you never get a good deal. the price set is really what i meant by that. neil: it is a low tax state but the real estate taxes, given the rising real estate -- >> substantial. people think about that. lauren: 1 necessarily writing off florida. any market you would consider that would get too hot or too

hot? >> austin has seen bad days. you have to appreciate it, construction was nonstop, oversupply of places to buy. they are coming down by 8%. neil: the high end property for $100 million condos and penthouses seem to be impervious. >> they are not impervious but a lot of good deals are being made. the trophy properties that are very very extravagant, a lot of money being exchanged so you can get a decent deal. they are always cash transactions. neil: a lot of foreign buyers. >> good number of american buyers, 60% of the very affluent people buying in manhattan are americans and that's not usually the case. neil: the interest rate

environment, people get concerned, federal reserve start cutting already. markets have done the opposite and backed up a little bit. how do you explain that. >> i can't explain the rates but i can explain if rates go down just another percentage point and prices -- every one will come out, probably 10 buyers on the sidelines, that are actively in the markets. everyone will charge the market and if you wait for interest rates to come down i don't think you will gain, you will pay more. i wouldn't be surprised if real estate went up it% or 10%. it sounds crazy, and everybody gets out and takes advantage of it.

neil: there were a lot of speculators. and it is just sitting. and the guaranteed buyer. people coming along, buyers -- does that localized in some parts of it? >> i am not sure. i grew up in new jersey. i don't like -- i don't like it to mean now it to me now. i like new york city. neil: moving on to another state? your sense of the economy, all of the unknowns, multiple wars going on. stocks climb a wall of worry.

>> people stall. and despite that, it is the shortage of houses. he will push the market forward. neil: you don't dabble in sports much. the price points. i used to buy my real estate in new york city, i understand rent control and state variances. and buying a lot in baltimore and columbus but you know why? it is a vital real estate market. governments are fairly to real estate developers and do well

on flipping or holding them, my favorite thing. i do very well because educating people, there's less rent restriction, prices are going through the moon and there's always room for attendance coming in. i like areas outside the city. neil: you like the city more to the point but you know about crime, does that scare people? >> the romance, ask any young person anywhere in the deep south out west if they want to get their fair share. new york has not lost its magic. older people grumble and say it's not what it used to be. i've been hearing that, i saw the 70s and 80s and 90s. a change for the better. it's a rough time when people

are grumbling more. asked the young person who just arrived here and there coming like crazy. neil: are more coming in than out. neil: my gang is leaving. for you personally, when you started out, it was a tough road. i wonder how you see it now. >> it was a tough road for corporate. if you are in business for yourself you make your own rules and how far you want to push the risk you want to take. never saw myself as a woman but as a competitor and that is all i saw and being in business for myself, the best place to play me out.

it wasn't tough. i had an unfair advantage of it. neil: you built that out. and had some geniuses on that. what do you mean by well worth it? >> the more intelligent a person is the more high maintenance they are. it's the truth, i would get top sales people, i was good at hiring, nurturing to top sales people. i was a psychiatrist, a mother, advocate, but it is worth it because they make ten times more money. neil: what made you stand out, some people are sycophants, not your -- >> i'm fascinated by smart people -- neil: i want all these guys to suck up to me. >> doesn't take much sucking to

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of two americas, they haves and they have nots. just last week coincidentally fed chairman powell, he stopped lying to us and says we have inflation is here to stay so powell finally admitted the 2% target was not makeable. he says inflation is not going to be 6%, 7%, 8% and feel for people who go to costco today, don't know how they afford to live with fuel and food and a way that's not keeping up. a tale of two americans. neil: seeking out commodity, silver, where does bitcoin fit into that if they are part of it? >> this is called fiat, fake

money and this is a silver dollar us and this year silver gold legal. bitcoin as a whole new asset class, this was designed from the start to lose value. and rich dad poor dad die said losers. you allowed me to talk about saving silver and saving gold and not this year, but bitcoin is a new asset class, a dollar designed to go down, bitcoin is designed to go up and purchasing power. that is why it is a new asset class. neil: where does it go from here? >> bitcoin by design, 21 billion coming out, 19.5 coming out and next week, next month,

it comes out, and when the price of gold goes up, gold miners go for more gold but bitcoin can never increase so the purchasing power of bitcoin keeps going up even though it may not go up as fast. a new asset class, they do their due diligence. neil: you could make the argument, i have limited time but it's going to shrink the supply of available coins, what have you, you would think that will be reflected right now and it is not. >> it's getting scarce whereas i say again it is hard to imagine because i own gold mines, it is plentiful the higher the price it goes. the fed keeps printing these

things which is not worth much. that's why there's two americas, those that can afford to save gold, silver or bitcoin but other have nots trying to save this or can't save enough living on credit cards. that is why i say there are two americas, fed chairman powell, inflation is here to stay. neil: seen a lot of trends that people miss. rich dad poor dad founder, the booklet launched a thousand career ships. thank you again. some other developments. a good backdrop that could explain the urgency to what robert is saying, the predicament a lot of americans

aren't having not saved enough. gerri willis following that, what larry think is saying. >> reporter: the manager of the largest retirement fund in the country saying that the inability to retire comfortably is one of the biggest global economic challenges this century. the ceo of black rocks is the idea of retirement at 65 once commonplace is a bit crazy. people on the street say he's exactly right. >> the people are not realistic. i don't think today's society, kids and stuff having pensions and things like that that we had when we were younger. >> graduating with student loan, car payment, very expensive at the grocery store, definitely. i don't know how they would do it. >> reporter: the data showing half of americans age 55 to 65

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all i am saying is meme stocks that exploded. just so you know, we mentioned it first here on your show. cnn, new york post. join the club. it's not going to stop. if you want to kill me, put a stake to my heart, make sure it is metal, here is the thing, gme is getting crushed today. financial analysts touting these games, money-losing stocks small retail investors thought they could magically climb to the moon, you can do that for little bit and then reality sets in. the company needs to survive so they dilute shares. they keep diluting because the company is losing money, you can't survive without access to

capital and if you look at trump media the problem is losing a ton of money. and they get decimated. bed, bath, and beyond. just follow the pattern, money-losing company, not a great business and a fraction, losing users, not doing that great. and and has a cultish following. they wanted to get paid. as the pump was going on, needs to sell. donald trump has a cash flow

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charles: to convince money and convince donald he should hold onto the stock do you think donald will hold on? they are saying we got to go. do you think he will hold onto the stock? neil: i know you're a hater, hater, hater. charles: he has this thing sitting there that could be nothing. neil: we will see. charles: his board is wonderful. neil: charlie gasparino has to go now. andy mccarthy joins us now. to get lost in this, a former assistant us attorney, fox news contributor. i don't want to go here with you. i want to ask you, donald trump

is facing in the case of hush money, that could be as soon as april 15th. he is going to be busy, anytime he's in court, he's not on the campaign stump, whereas president biden is. without getting into the politics of this, how busy could be juggling cases. >> politics are very important of it, exactly what you are saying because in a criminal trial we see trump in civil trials where the defendant doesn't have to show up. it in his interests to show up but no legal requirement. in criminal trials you are supposed to be present for every moment of the trial and it is very rare for judges to allow that to be waived, don't see that happening. looking at a four to six months trial starting in two weeks.

takes us into early june and the rest of the calendar gets interesting because jack smith, the special counsel, has said the justice department's 60 day rule where they are not supposed to take action in the two months leading up to an election unless they influence it doesn't apply to trump, laying the groundwork to start a trial of him after labor day and run it through election day which is a key part of the campaign. julie: the one that starts on the 15th could have it done and decided before the election. what if there's a conviction? >> typically there's three months between the time a jury comes in and the day of the judge imposes sentence. my assumption, it's dangerous to assume anything but my

assumption has been that since the new york case involves a nonviolent crime with a first offender under circumstances where they are making accommodations for serious criminals nobody should do an hour whether trump gets convicted on one count or 34 counts, it doesn't merit imprisonment but on the other hand, i didn't think this open case merited of $450 million -- neil: there is that. sorry for the truncated time, good to see you again. andy mccarthy on that. scott martin weighing in on this unusual meeting of us ceos with xi jinping. what is that about? they're waiting for you. hey, do you have a second?

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in all markets, it looks a little sycophant. >> it does. biden talking to china in saudi arabia and sycophancy has in personal pocket so it doesn't speak to the fact this is a global economy that needs other countries as far as participation. if you're a ceo that's publicly traded, the nasdaq, you need to have a global corporate environment, china is a partner in that strike. neil: i like the ceos had to line up and xi jinping will be getting in the room and waiting. i now requires that. >> reporter: i will give you a similar golf clap. neil: always good seeing you. jackie deangelis and "the big money show" next. jackie: i'm jkd is a list.