business selling things own a website. i want, i want data, i want consumer facing. i don't want to be selling books and records and so forth. i think ultimately amazon's path will be a split-up between the faster growing cloud and digital advertising businesses move away from the website. liz: i cannot wait to see if what you just said happens. that would be some type of dividend announcement. people have been waiting for that forever. david, great to see you, thank you very much. here comes the closing bell on this monday. [closing bell rings] dow and nasdaq for the session. big day tomorrow, service now chairman and ceo, bill mcdetermine mat. as federal reserve interest rate meeting kicks off we have former vice-chair randy quarles. that will be it for us. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. once again columbia president

shafik folded her tent and did nothing as the anti-semitic protests continue on campus. we'll have senator eric schmitt to talk about all of this. joe biden wants to blow up donald trump's successful tax cuts. that is a real bad idea. tax foundation scott hodge to talk us about it. former speaker newt gingrich reminded us how ronald reagan refused to let campus radicals shut down california colleges. lina khan, where is prada, jimmy chu is part of the proehl tear i can't think. liz peek, caroline down any have a thing to say about all of that. first we go to madsen all worth at columbia, madison, what happened and what didn't happen? >> reporter: larry you can see a lot of action behind me. students have been protesting for days and weeks even after

the columbia president threatened suspension it has not slowed them done. columbia receives billion dollars a year from the federal government. i want to show you the encampment here this is the center of campus. there are threats that these students will be suspended and yet it still stands. now what we're seeing in washington is some lawmakers are pushing in a bipartisan way to cut the federal funds that go to universities like this. the columbia act would allow the education department to send a third party antisemitism monitor to a school to assess how they're combating anti-semitic. those that don't comply would lose federal funding. we're talking about a money. across the ivy league a billion dollars are given through federal funds. mike lawler says something needs to change and pulling the financial lever could be a solution. >> we're seeing a rapid rise of anti-semitickism on universities and college campuses.

legislators failed on cracking down. if you see this a lot of student behavior will change quickly. >> reporter: columbia has been the epicenter of this movement which has been very active today here on campus and really across the country. large encampment we showed you remains on the college quad, despite very clear instructions from the president that students had to vacate by 2:00 p.m. or force being suspended. it is now 4:00 p.m., larry. there are hundreds of protesters around the campus. the encampment has seen little to no change. students are still inside. they have been dancing, they have been chanting. we're asking the university when those suspensions will be happening, when they get the police involved, mum is the word. outside of the college campus we were witness to one arrest. unclear if it was a student other a rest dent of new york, but here on columbia's campus, encampment still up.

protesters behind me with no signs of slowing down. larry: madison, the 2:00 p.m. deadline came and went, it had no meaning whatsoever? >> reporter: larry, yeah, it came and went and no shiny of the students inside of the encampment have been removed. larry: another question, a friend of mine asked, is there a sprinkler system on the lawn in columbia? that might do it. joke. just kidding. just kidding. wiseass humor, sorry, madison. appreciate very much. they could use the sprinkler system. >> reporter: thank you, larry. larry: for the riff, i want to go back in time. as governor of california, ronald reagan knew how to stop campus radicals from shutting down ucal berkeley and the other state colleges and universities, you know, back in 1966 at the cow palace near san francisco reagan said the following, take a listen, please. >> will we alalia great university to be brought to its

knees by a noisy dissident minority? will we meet their knew rot i can vulgarities? we tell those entrusts the university enforce a code based on decency, common sense and dedication to the high and noble purpose of that university. larry: there you go. later that year the gipper also said, i will quote, what in heaven's names academic freedom do with rioting, anarchy, and destroying the primary use of university is in educating young people. big tip hat for newt gingrich reminding us of all of this. newt will be on later to talk about how reagan handle i had. last week in columbia, speaker mike johnson went there and called for 9 resignation of president shafik unless she could restore campus order. after today's 2:00 p.m. missed deadline, i think this is about

the fourth missed deadline, it looks like president shafik should resign because she hasn't restored order and nothing has changed. this is the kind of pandering reagan hated. he said later on as governor, listen to this, i will quote. i am sick and tired of the argument about whether some effort to enforce law and order is going to escalate anything at all. the plain truth of the matter is, this has to stop and it has to stop like the day before yesterday, and it is going to be stopped whatever it takes, period, end quote. now, there is another key angle to columbia and all the anti-semitic campus disruptions across the country. that is, title six of the civil rights act of 1964. i quote, no person in the united states shall on the ground of race, color, or national origin be excluded from participation

in, be denied the benefits of, or be subject toddies crime nation under any program activity, receiving federal financial assistance, end quote. the hate crimes of antisemitism would certainly call under time six of the civil rights act. that bill pushed hard by president lyndon johnson was passed with significant republican senate votes mainly because the dixie kratz senators from the south would not sign onto something forcing equality for black people that was the main push in those days. in a sense the civil rights act of 1964 was necessary because the great emancipation amendments to the constitution, 13, 14, and 15, that were pushed by president abraham lincoln while he was alive and then later were never truly enforced

during the next 100 years. i reckon the '64 civil rights act was the best thing lbj ever did in his rather tortured time as president. now there is yet a third angle to this wave of antisemitism endangering the lives of jewish students suffering from hate speech and hate crimes, cut off federal funding. the bipartisan open the books website has the numbers to show that the increase in federal money being given to colleges is actually greater than even the increase in tuition payments charged by those colleges. in columbia university's case, between 2018 and 2022 the university received $5.8 billion in contracts and grants. this while columbia's endowment during that period increased

from $10.5 billions to $13.3 billion. so, when donald trump last week argued that the spread of antisemitism is not only violating civil rights discrimination laws but also should lead to tax increases and heavy fines for those colleges like columbia and so many others that continue to appease the virulent virus of antisemitism and hate crimes, mr. trump was right on target. meanwhile, joe biden hasn't lifted a finger to enforce civil rights laws or threaten financial punch punishment with these recalcitrant colleges. why isn't biden telling his justice department sending the fbi to investigate federal crimes under the civil rights

act of 1964? why isn't briden threaten college presidents and demanding they threaten law and order exactly the way ronald reagan did under similar circumstances so many years ago? those are questions for the ages but they are also important questions for this election. and that's the riff. all right, joining me now, missouri senator eric schmitt. mr. schmidt, welcome back, sir, as is always the case. i wanted you to perhaps comment, you are a league briefing -- beagle skills, ag of missouri, bringing lawsuits to stop the encroachment of the federal government. why doesn't joe biden enforce the civil rights act, known as title vi? which is against discrimination. why isn't biden and what could be done about this. >> it doesn't have anything to do with the law. it is political calculation on the part of joe biden.

it is the same reason why he has called for new elections in israel with benjamin netanyahu. the same rhine why he is pivoting away from israel. he believes he has to hold together this very weak coalition to get reelected and the problem for him this pro-hamas wing of the democratic party are growing. they are very vocal. they will show up at the convention. he knows it. he doesn't want to do the right thing to tell them he is wrong. he is playing footsie with all of this stuff. the other problem, larry, the people that are in charge of these elite higher education institutions are of the same mind as these radical protesters. that's why they don't want to do anything. they have been brought up to belief this ridiculous theory, dei, cultural marxism, you divide the world into oppressor and oppressed. what you're seeing played out in real time at college campuses in demonstrations in other places is the logical consequence of this really divisive theory

permeated higher he had. not just an election, how they train teachers and staff in k-12 education. now you have the full gamut of this. you have students who believe this. you have the staff, administrators somehow still wearing masks outside by the way which is totally insane at this point. they're all in solidarity here. jewish students unfortunately are huddled in libraries afraid for their lives. this is what has been wrought by the modern democratic party and the left. they believe in this stuff and it is playing on college campuses. larry: senator, i agree with everything you just said but you're a prominent senator, you're a former state attorney general missouri, they are breaking the law, that's my, first point tonight, they're breaking the law. >> yeah. larry: title vi, civil rights act of 1964, i might add it was passed with republican votes in those days because the dixiecrats from the south wouldn't go near it. i give l-fj credit for it.

i give everett dirksen, if everybody remembers that name, band of other gop shorts voted for it. it was a good thing, okay, fine. right now we're looking they are breaking the law. senator eric schmitt you can get up on the floor of the senate, you are breaking the law. where is the fbi? where is merrick garland? where is joe biden? this is a clear case. they are, biden says he is the pro-democracy guy. trump is the guy that is, here ask another case where biden is willfully breaking the law by not taking any action to enforce the law, senator schmitt. that is the part i don't get it. call him on it, sir, call him on it. >> yee, yeah look, the same reason the fbi will go aftra additional catholics but not actually enforce the law when these folks were outside supreme court justices threatening their lives. they are fully choosing,

weaponizing our legal system. causes all kinds of problems, lack of trust, practical consequences as you are pointing out. remember, the left here, larry, they are taking us backwards. they believe in an ideology where it is okay to racially discriminate. they have segregationist graduation ceremonies now. these same people are in solidarity with these student, administrators, staff, some of these ivy league institutions are the same people advocating for black only, whoo it only sort of graduation ceremony to give people their safe spaces. this is totally insane. i think it takes an incident like this for the american people to see it. people have a right to speak their mind. you don't have the right to have encampment on private property. you don't have the right to have people have graduation ceremony. some of these students were denied by the covid radicals are being denied this by radicals. it is time toe enforce the law.

joe biden doesn't want to do it because it is a political prem, the pro-hamas wing of democratic party is growing. larry: president trump called to enforce the law. secondly he called for either taxing endowments or fining endowments for those colleges who tolerate this nonsense. i'm sure you heard my quotes from the late governor and of course president ronald reagan. i worked for him when i was a child many, many years ago, but reagan wouldn't broach any nonsense on this. i mean you got, the thing that is so incredible, you have the law behind you. biden doesn't have a leg to stand on. that's why i say call him on it, get a a bunch of senators call him on it. title vi, you're the lawyer, not me. >> that's right. he should do it, but what i'm saying, larry this administration is the most political when it comes to enforcing the law we've ever seen. they're trying to throw their main opponent in jail for the rest of his life. larry: lawbreakers.

>> they don't believe in actuallyd. larry: they're lawbreakers. >> lady justice being blind. they believe it as a political weapon. they're refusing to wield it here because they know there are political consequences. larry: bracing the law on the border not enforcing the laws of sovereignty. breaking law on student loan cancellations. breaking the loan on power and electricity. they will ban all coal. going to wind up banning all natural gas before it is all said. breaking the law left and right. >> larry, think how infuriating for the guy that gets up and works hard every, the overtime shift like my dad seven days a week, people paying working their way through college, make different life decisions. these same folks, same radicals at campus will have their student debt forgiven. it is upside down world. it doesn't make sense for the people who actually play by the rules. i think that's why people are frustrated and ready for trump to get back into office because they know we can't have another

four years of this. we can't. larry: the real radical is the guy in the white house. he is a lawbreaker. we have the, you've got evidence to prove it. i mean, you know, in the cold light of day the print shows it. that civil rights act of '64. i'm no fan of lbj, welfare, vietnam, tax hikes, the whole nine yards but that was the best thing he did. he did it with republican help. that was the best thing he did. now has been the case in the past it should be enforced the trouble is not necessarily blacks that may be ongoing trouble. the trouble is discrimination against jewish kids, jewish kids who can't even go to thighs these colleges. you know that senator, i'm putting it out there. >> that's right, all right, larry. good to see you. larry: take care. you bet. folks coming up here is a real bad idea, bad idea among other the, joe biden wants to blow up donald trump's highly successful tax cuts.

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larry: there he goes again. president biden wants to blow up donald trump's successful tax cuts. our own edward lawrence got for from us on the white house lawn. no sprinklers, there are sprinklers on that lawn. anyway -- >> reporter: they were earlier, larry. they did come on during one of my live shots. larry: we need the sprinklers on the columbia lawn. i don't want to go there. that is a different subject. tell us about tax cut, please. >> reporter: in fact if the president has his way and these tax cuts expire as you know taxes for about all americans would go up. the president can't pick and choose which part of the law which will actually sunset. the entire law sunsets on this topic here. the president spinning that as a good thing. president biden: he is proud, very proud of his two trillion dollar tax cut when he was president that overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and created the biggest corporations and exploded, exploded the federal debt. it is going to expire and if i'm reelected it will stay expired.

>> reporter: but all taxes could go up. if the cuts expire the tax foundation calculate ad family of two making $85,000 a year would see taxes go up $1700 a year. a single person without kids, making $57,000 a year would pay increased taxes about the same amount. married couple with two kids making 165,000 a year would pay additional in taxes every year. the white house communications department trying to remessage what the president is actually saying. he is telling me the president wants tax cuts to expire just for the wealthy while protecting americans making $400,000 a year. that is not actually what he is saying or what he can do. >> i think the president may have forgotten about that. that is this president, there was a huge middle class component to this tax bill that saved the average household about $2500 in the amount of income taxes they pay. so how can joe biden say he is not going to raise taxes on

people making less than 400,000 at the same time he wants to retire these tax cuts? >> reporter: so again, if the tax cuts are expired, then in 2026 about all-americans would be paying more. larry? larry: edward, stick around, hang with us for a moment. we want to use your enormous information and bring in our pal scott hodge, president emeritus of the tax foundation. you know, scott, one small thing here in this political debate with respect to expiring, as you know, and i'm sure my friend edward lawrence knows, the corporate tax rate dropping from 35 to 21 does not expire, does not expire. so i don't know what joe biden -- one of many things, i don't know what he is talking about. the 100% immediate depreciation writeoffs, yes, those are already expiring the last couple years. it is all the personal that's

going to expire, which would dough great damage as edward's report as my pal steve moore said would do great damage to typical working families, middle income families, scott. how is that helping how is that helping anybody? >> it doesn't, larry. in fact our economists in our tax model estimates that the biden tax increase would cost the economy almost 800,000 new jobs, excuse me, reduce the size of the economy by about 2% and lower capital investment. this is bad for every income group up and down the income scale and especially those people as steve mentioned at the middle and lower incomes who benefit from increased child tax credit, higher standard deduction which means more and mower of those people don't have to itemize anymore, making the tax code much simpler for them. many benefits folks get from the tax cuts and those would go say

way if biden allowed them to expire. larry: edward lawrence, a little factoid, you can always find a think tank to say what you want them to say but the joint economic committee and national bureau of economic research, nber papers, both showed two things, the distribution, everybody got tax cut but the middle and particularly the lowest quintile, the bottom 20% got the largest increase, edward lawrence. now i know biden, so to quote the bible, oh, my gosh, the poorest among us actually did the best. it wasn't the richest among us. >> reporter: it also could be seen in some of the federal reserve research when you talk about the actual wealth of americans during those years went up more than it has in other years. you're talking about, you know, a group of people that need help and now when you look at this administration, president biden came into office, prices are up

19% from the month he came intos office. now you will add increased taxes for americans on top of that, regardless of that, that will squeeze people who are already squeezed. clearly putting record amount of money on credit cards just to live. larry: yes indeed, if that stuff were back in the cpi as it was in the old cpi, you would have a much higher cpi but i digress. scott hodge, i have a couple of additional turkeys for you. treasury secretary janet yellen is apparently throwing in with a couple of countries in the g20 for a global wealth tax at this would be very anti-american sips we have the most billionaires and wealth. then there is this other gem, the biden treasury once again, yellen, wants to double the capital gains tax on grounds of racial equity. so they're going to give us about a 45% capital-gains tax

rate. i remember the good ol' days with george w. bush, when it was dropped down to 15%. 45% on ground the of racial equity. what about jobs and unemployment and business opportunities, scott hodge? do we have to have a global wealth tax? do we have to double the capital gains tax on racial grounds? >> these are success taxes plain and simple. these are an assault on people who are successful, create jobs and companies and wealth in the united states and globally. the person behind the global wealth tax, is gabriel zuckman, same person who designed elizabeth warren's wealth tax, what is called the eu tax observatory, which is eu equivalent of the congressional budget office run amok, chasing down tax avoiders and takes evaders and so forth and they

created this idea much like elizabeth warren's wealth tax to tax wealth at 2% for all billionaires across the globe. now this would require a global cooperation in order to do this, including a global asset registry, so that they, you would have to document the land you own, the real estate, all the things that you own so that the global tax administrators can track you down to try to tax your wealth. larry: what about that? >> this is a really bad proposal. larry: this is like the global minimum tax and these other taxes. these would in some sense allow foreign governments to assess tax burdens on american companies. i know we lost our sovereignty on the border but we don't have to lose our tax sovereignty. that was a joke but a serious point.

edward lawrence, let me ask you about one thing, how about the s.a.l.t. tax deduction which the trump tax cuts limited to $10,000? it was no more unlimited. limit $10,000 to the state and local tax deduction which had a major progressive effect. it fell mainly on, get ready for it, rich people, the trump cuts had a whole thing, they're still squealing, new york, new jersey, connecticut, california. they're still squealing about the limited s.a.l.t. deduction of 10 grand. is that in or out of joe biden's so-called tax page or whatever? >> reporter: president joe biden, that is one of the things they're looking at clearly. there is lot of pressure on the administration on the s.a.l.t. tax to put it back in. talking about those states, new york, california, chicago, or illinois, those states with higher costs and the costs are in the homes and you can't live in those states for under a

million dollars or more. larry: wait a minute. hold on a second. those tax deductions fell on, wait for it, rich people. oh, my god. just goes to show. you need a scorecard to figure this stuff out. scott hodge, real quick what is the maim of your book, what's the name of your book? >>takocacy. larry: thanks. edward lawrence best of the best. coming up here on "kudlow," former speaker newt gingrich how ronald reagan handled the college antisemitism crisis. it is in my book. stick around the lots more to do with kudlow. ♪. in any business, you ride the line between numbers and people. what's right for the business and what's best for everyone who depends on it. solving today's challenges while creating future opportunities.

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my riff was what reagan would have done and what reagan did do to the crazy college campuses. you cite, speaker mike johnson gave a very tough speech, here you are, newt. another day with another deadline to do something, columbia has not done a single thing. what do you make of it? >> first of all you have cowards who idealogically are actually sympathetic to the radicals. they're not going to take them own. they're not going to suffer the risk that their friends won't like them. in addition, you have a george soros-funded, long-term investment in paying for student radicals, giving them fellowships, between the rockefeller innings statute, rock feller foundation and soros' operations you have a huge amount of funding going into the anti-radical american left. it is important to remember,

that is what this is about. not only are they pro-hamas, not only anti-israel, they're anti-american. the universities ought to close them down. what reagan did as you know in my newsletter, gingrich 360 i laid out very directly. reagan came straight at them. he stayed if you're not going to be a student, you're not going to be on campus. if you stay on campus you're trespassing. if you are trespassing we'll use the police. if we don't have enough police, we're bringing in the california national guard. and as a result he broke the back of student radicalism in california which was at several university campuses. we need that same kind of attitude across the whole country. instead you have this weird combination of soros paying for it while biden says nothing. i think we ought to recognize, the congress i hope will investigate what are all the ties, where did the money come from, what were the decisions made, who were the people going

around the country helping organize this? you know, how do you end up with three palestinian flags at harvard over the weekend? there is a constant effort to undermine and weaken the united states. reagan understood that. i think speaker johnson did a great job going to columbia. it tells you a lot to joe biden he hasn't been to a single campus, he hasn't come down on this. he says let's be even-handed baloney. you can't be even-handed with people who are pro-terrorists. larry: speaker gingrich, another point, they are in violation of the 1964 civil rights act, specifically title vi, and secondly you talk about private funding by the soros crowd and rockefellers, the rockefeller thing breaks my heart because nelson would never let that happen in his day, but, but, federal funding, taxpayer funding of these universities, huge sums, place like columbia,

got, let's see, five billion dollars. hold on a second. yes, they got five billion, $5.8 billion between 2018 and 2022 according to one of the bipartisan websites. so they're being rewarded by uncle sam and taxpayers, in order to break the law, break civil rights laws and this virulent anti-semitickism doing so much damage -- anti-semitic. >> congress should take two clear steps. eliminate the tax deduction for these endowments. they make a billion dollars a year out of their endowment charging outrageous fees. second they should cut off the money. they should have a very clear position. if you can't be a pro-american campus you shouldn't be getting the american taxpayer's money. larry: yes, sir. >> i also think, anybody who is currently out there

demonstrating, who is not an american citizen, should be deported immediately. we don't have to put up with this. larry: great point, great point. newt gingrich, terrific stuff. by the way i will send you tonight's riff. we give you full credit. your reagan piece stimulated it. thank you very, very much, newt. >> thank you. larry: folks quickly switches gears, i love this, not my favorite story, well maybe it is, lina khan wears prada, okay? how about jimmy chu? let's bring in liz peek, syndicated columnist, fox news contributor, caroline downey, "national review" reporter. hold on one second. perhaps in chair alina kahn's elite circles, folks who shop at jimmy chu's think of themselves proletariat, proletariat. she is trying to help competition. i don't understand any of this. >> this is completely ridiculous, larry, this entire

thing. by the way this is being spearheaded by a man who is the he had of the anti-competitive group at the sec. it doesn't surprise me at all. every woman would know everything he says is complete nonsense. combining these brands, major brands on each side of this acquisition will reduce competition. there are hundreds of handbag makers. by the way price is not how they are sold. sold on style, influencers wearing them and make women want to own a particular handbag. it is completely idiotic. lina khan is ideologue, earned her stripes being anti-amazon when she was undergraduate. she has lofted case after case against companies making acquisitions and she has lost almost all of them. larry: every case. she will lose this one too. caroline, in case you're not following this within an inch your life.

>> lina khan at the fct as liz said. she want to block a merger between tapestry and capri. capri owns versace. these are proletariat companies. tapestry owns kate spade, coach and stuart wise man. if you want a nice knock-off go out the door on six of this avenue here you get anything you want. be get chanel, rolex watches to your heart's content, caroline. >> i think it is funny. i have been following this, one thing i saw the agency described luxury handbags that retail over $700 as affordable, just to show how out of touch the bureaucracy is with the american public. it is really unfortunate that they found this to be objectionable. the white knight has to swoop in. i didn't see this as being a problem before now but apparently it was. larry: beyond this, last couple of minutes here, look it,

they're going on a regulatory binge. the fcc wants to take over the internet gene. the trump administration, we rolled that back. here we go again. the epa basically wants to stop electricity. they will shut down coal. new gas plants but old gas plants will be in it very soon. what else are they doing? >> overtime laws. larry: overtime laws. these are -- >> non-compete clauses. larry: business host throughout tv, over time laws that was a joke. regulatory binge in remaining months because they are afraid trump will win. >> that is exactly the title of my peals that comes out five pam tomorrow. iif they wait to the lame duck they will not get the agenda through. the progressives are saying our

time is running out. they think their time is running out. they're pushing a slew of executive actions, rules and regulations half will be overturned either through the courts, mostly but the courts. >> seem like only legal, and economic logic only good merger is no merger but this is the biden administration being an activist, using its activist arm to affect commerce to the detriment of consumers. larry: to the detriment also i might add of laws. >> yeah. larry: and court decisions. you know, he won't enforce the civil rights act with respect to the antisemitism. he won't enforce any of the supreme court decisions with respect to these crazy overregulatory decisions. the guy is a lawbreaker. he also won't enforce the laws that block the southern border. he says he is the democracy candidate, small d, riley? really? >> he is actually gone back to stuff that obama got kicked out of court, remember, on emissions. larry: yes. >> there is it never enough.

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continuing and building on the policies we talked about. his people, his policies, his words. but we know joe biden is not running the white house. you see this in his mental decline. you might remember saturday night he fought a battle, losing battle with a salad. he turned his back on the very audience he was talking to, the wounded warriors which was very personal to me. most frightening to me, u.s. law vests in one person the authority to launch nuclear weapons and right now that is joe biden. i commanded a nuclear detachment in special forces and it frightens me joe biden has the sole authority to launch nuclear weapons. larry: keith self, by the way that is a scary thought and we appreciate the thought. in your judgement, you're on the foreign affairs commit eif i'm not mistaken? >> i am. larry: in your judgment will israel finish the job with hamas in south gaza and rafah what do

you think, sir? >> larry, i served with the idf for two years. i spent a lot of time. i been to most of their military bases. i believe they're committed to this. i believe they have every intention to continue to dismantle the hamas infrastructure. that means they have to take out those battalions that remain in rafah. i think joe biden is throwing every obstacle he can in front of the israelis but i think they're committed. obviously they have to react to u.s. policy but i think they are committed. i think they will finish the job. larry: you know almost from day one, our friend newt gingrich, labeled this big government socialism on tonight's show we were talking about the overregulation going on but you look at it, the spending and borrowing and the deficit finances and overregulation, and the attempts to raise taxes left and right, i mean, i would say it is worse than obama to tell you the truth, keith.

>> well, frankly this year in congress, now i'm a freshman, so this was my first budget, we spent more as a republican majority in congress than pelosi and schumer spent in the last year before we took the majority. we spent more this year than the last, pelosi, schumer budget think about that? we're $35 trillion in debt now, scheduled to go do 50 trillion. this is unsustainable, larry. we must get a better handle it, we have to do better as a republican majority, in the second year of my first term. larry: i agree with you sir. elect republican senate, president, and bigger majority in the house that would help do it, to be honest with you. keith self, thanks for being on the show. we hope you will come back to visit us again. folks i will be right back with my last word.

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