that is it for "kudlow". thanks for watching folks. maria: good thursday morning

everyone, thank you for joining us this morning. i am maria bartiromo thursday may 16, your top stories, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast, debate season coming early president trump and president biden agreed to debate before the election went to debate set up for june and september while biden has a strict rule to adhere to, trump's says he wants both standing for two hours, everything you need to note new fox news polls putting trump had a biden as biden sees eroding support from demographics. will tell you about it. markets indicating a higher opening futures indicated again at the start of trading it is up about 28 on the dow industrials extending yesterday's gains after a major retailer walmart reporting earnings in the next hour we have the numbers here live and we will bring you the preview. housing starts and building permits out at 8:30 a.m. eas

eastern. commodities come up take a look at oil, copper up once again continued record highs in the price of copper were talking about that as well. european markets are negative take a look at the eurozone with declines across the board in your, and asia overnight green across the board pretty much a positive session overnight in the asian embassies, stay with us next our house oversight james comer is here with breaking news on the house impeachment investigation into president biden, joining the conversation strategic wealth partner mark tepper, former trump administration official tricia mclaughlin and "fox & friends" todd piro, "mornings with maria" is live right now. ♪. maria: time for the hot topic of

hour president biden of former president trump agreed to a debate only under certain conditions, biden's campaign requiring the debates have no audience, no third party candidates participating including robert f kennedy junior a number of outlets can host the debate and they want each candidate's microphone to go mute after the time expires no interrupting the next person chocked telling conservative radio host he only requires one thing the debate last two hours and both candidates stand the entire time. it must take place in a large venue as well, white house correspondent peter doocy pressed karine jean-pierre about yesterday on why biden wants to debate. >> as a person generally want to debate when they are winning or when they are losing. >> i'm going to do political punditry.

>> why do we see the sudden offer from the president to debate as a signal that you realize you need to change subject under bad polling. >> this is the president has had a successful legislative tenure in the first three and half years and has delivered on many things that are popular to the american people. as it relates to the debate you have to talk to the campaign that's a question for the campaign and i'm sure they are eager to answer your questions peter. >> a fox news poll finds trump leading biden into a magic 49 49 - 48% the same poll finds trump leading biden and rfk junior and a potential three-way matchup rfk geniuses biden tropical looting to exclusion from the debates peter doocy as president biden about the as well. >> you don't want to debate rfk junior? that is a no?

maria: i think trump is showing real strength saying he's getting debate no matter what as long as it's two hours and biden's key are getting back to the 1960s, no audience i don't know if that's because biden is not comfortable with audience and trump place to the audience, he's funny and a great performer but biden is showing weakness in this camp is looking at august convention we want to get ahead of that and if there's any real mess ups let's clean it up in june. maria: i think this is an important point why these dates how did they come up with june 27 and september 10 wondering what they may know about the schedule in terms of trials for trump. >> he did mention the wednesday which is the one day of the week trump is not in the courtroom but the whole june debate seems like before the convention maybe it gives the democrats a time to

restructure their game plan with biden if it doesn't go well or potentially change candidates who knows what can happen. to all your points when you look at the 132nd clip with five cats to say 51 words it's crystal clear he's not cut out for this and that's why he has so many rules and restrictions on how the debates are going to happen no audience for a guy with 81 million votes why would you want to see the 81 million people there cheering you on because they know he's a complete dud. the whole microphone thing that might work in trump's favor because biden did not the truck twice and debates in 2020, trump the himself he was constantly interrupting and he shot himself in the foot in my opinion because of the interruptions. his microphone would be shut off it could work in trump's favor.

>> you mention the clip where joe biden said make my day pal and they edited it. biden spokesperson says the president did not meant words after releasing the 142nd soundbite with five edits when he challenged trump to the debate, jacqui heinrich reporting biden wanted to debate him more than his advisers wanted him to multiple sources close to the president told heinrich that he hates trump and a lot of it is personal as he reasons the digs that trump is made to his family and his son hunter. take out all of this i don't know if you would call it digs these are serious charges from the oversight committee he is calling it digs and that's why he hates trump. >> he really hates trump but this is the first time in three half years he's overridden the handlers that run the white house he put himself in a

position because of the hatred hatred to basically say i'm going to debate the sky he's not cognizant of the fact that trump is going to wipe the floor with him, it's not going to be fair you can't have that many edits and something that should be simple, i want to debate you bring it on, you're not reading to the audience, cut into keep in mind if republicans can get there early voting act in order this could be trump's benefit because people get to see the contrast and say i have to get my voting for trump as soon as possible because we can have whatever that was a joe biden did on the stage for another four years. maria: it's interesting the biden camp doesn't want a live audience. >> is like watching a prize fight one person beating a puppy. maria: trump place to the wide audience. futures extended the record run the gains across the board ahead of walmart earnings coming out

in the next our talent just dropped 26 we will see walmart earnings and moving stock, er share joel shulman's ear with his thoughts on that. outlook on the fatty where we stand on inflation mccourt global executive frank mccourt junior is hearing a lot of snow about his bid to acquire tiktok he put a group together and he wants to buy this company in the 8:00 a.m. hour he will tell us all about it you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business without exclusive. stay with us. ♪

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maria: welcome back stocks are higher after huge rally yesterday to record highs. take a look at the number fueled by april cpi suggesting inflation may be easing prices rose less than expected the dow industrial higher than that we hundred 50-point move, markets year to date which are also higher off at the height of the year we got the dow up 6% year to date and the s&p 500 better than a lover present as a nasdaq better that 11% higher in 2024, joining me joel shulman, great to see you you think this has legs for the rest of the year? >> it's going to be choppy for a few. but as long as inflation comes out of little bit we're going to see some of the stocks particularly the growth stocks do well yesterday most of our growth stocks were up over 2% this is going to be goodyear but we've not seen the small caps moving and i think that's going to be the next leg.

maria: let's take a look interest rates with a firmer town interest rates like this and the yield on the ten year minneapolis federal reserve neil cast kerry's signaling rates need to be higher and the biggest uncertainties how much downward pressure is monetary policy putting on the economy that's an unknown and it tells me we need to sit here for a little longer five federal reserve official speaking later today, mark tepper jumping it feels like there on step when you hear one said officials say higher for longer next thing they all said the same thing. >> when we talk about higher for longer jay powell this week said 5 - 6 years until we get to a neutral rate when employment is under control as well as inflation 5 - 6 years i doubt higher for longer means 5 - 6 years but i think it's longer that a lot of people are expecting, i would love to get your take on the consumer we

have walmart reporting this morning obviously should be a great read into how the consumer is doing are they buying less volume and higher prices but would you look at recent data and go back to last week consumer sentiment fell off a cliff and then you come into yesterday all the attention on cpi slightly sloping month over month by retail sales auto and gas down 0.1% month over month it seems like the consumer is weakening and i would love to get your take on that. >> i agree the consumer is weakening although we see some companies like sweet green and shake shack putting up good numbers these will moderately priced restaurants and i think we see an interesting market where the consumer is taking trade-offs in some of the retail areas, we are also seeing a mixed record in some of the tech

companies that are performing well in the number of tech companies that are growing revenues and expanding margins. i agree consumer discretionary, that may be an area that is choppy in a number of companies that were monitoring consumer discretionary psalm are way up but we also see some results in it and healthcare and uc growth stories here into your point the smaller company in consumer discretionary companies have not performed well in terms of performance we see those and overall the smaller companies which recently came back negative until recently. maria: is something he would allocate capital toward big tech and growth? >> growth has been really strong and had a strong run so you show the cues up of about a half percent and our funds are up 18% of our embassies are higher and

we will see a movement in energy which is not been an area that's been talked about for a while there is a nuclear power company that came out as a to perform well we see more nuclear energy companies that are showing a lot of interest in private equity crossover funds were retail investors have access to crossover funds and private equity in redoubling and some of that as well, there are opportunities for investors in areas that they have not had in a long time or ever. maria: we will be watching all about, thank you so much. joel shulman joining us. the white house is this monitoring israel's march on rafah as a new fox news poll shows a majority of voters oppose into israel protest on college campuses, greg murphy is here with more on that. you are want to "mornings with maria" live on fox business. we'll be right back.

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>> we have been very clear we will continue to monitor the situation, we believe what we are seeing right now is a targeted operation that's what israel has told us we've not seen a major operation moving forward but we obviously have concerns that could happen. maria: that was press secretary karine jean-pierre say the biden of administration is monitoring israel and the actions did rafah despite moving forward with the 1 billion-dollar weapons package for israel the massive arms deal coming a week after biden held back a shipment of weapons threatening to cut off aid of israel launched a full-scale invasion of rafah a new fox news poll shows 64 present registered voters disapprove a president biden's handling of the israel hamas war house republicans are plated to vote on the israel assistant support act this week that would condemn biden's approach to israel and force his hand to send armed shipments

there the white house is vowing to veto that that would've undermined biden's ability to execute foreign-policy calling it a misguided reaction and once again insisting their support for israel is ironclad, joining me north carolina congressman greg murphy house veterans affairs ways and means administration committee also the gop doctors caucus chairman, thank you for being here this morning. it feels like joe biden tried to do a380 on holding back the weapons after he saw a real pushback even from voters who saw that as a redline he says is ironclad but is the support from israel ironclad. >> no what is not and it just depends upon the day that the progressive and the white house are telling you what to do, it is not ironclad look at our world now then compared to four years ago the world is an absolute crisis. it comes back that joe biden cannot do anything correct and the national security realm, is 0 has every right to prices were

until as the surrender of hamas, they should use anything that they can to do this outside of nuclear war obviously but for biden to play catch in their switching bait with the israelis, israelis know what they're doing and is only placating to the far left of his party. maria: i don't know who's telling him to do this but voters are upset and they feel that it's emboldening hamas and the pro-palestinian activists on college campuses we have a new fox poll that shows 59% of voters oppose the israel hamas war protest on college campuses 33% support 58 despite the anti-israel, 46% of the protester into somatic, 42% say anti-american and 42% april hamas, jump in here, your reaction. >> i think it's protest on the college campuses is coachella for communist. it's un-american and anti-somatic and i blame the

administrators but if you're in pro-palestine i don't want the crybabies on my behalf i can't believe there has been more outcry of anti-semitism and anti-americanism out there. maria: is pretty extraordinary, your reaction. >> there was one professor at unc the did a fabulous job of shutting down the protest that said she was going to give up the grade for the students unless they were taken off the list where they were removed from campus, that person should be fired immediately it's time for the adults to come back in the room this is the for wishing about the liberal policies going on in the country and we see chaos because of this. maria: we had not heard a lot from joe biden on the protest in the anti-semitism raging across the country and waiting ten days before they said anything, who is leading the policy on israel

and the white house and why does the white house judge and track everything israel is doing as it tries to retaliate against terrorists? >> i spent last february a year ago when i was in kebabs where you could oversee the gaza st strip, every single individual that i met then is dead has been slaughtered they are all gone, i learned that day how much israel does to try to protect the innocence, the civilians. the whole nonsense that israel is committing genocide, hamas is committing genocide through using these people as shields for the terrorist activities but not let that be misconstrued. >> the republicans are trying to push back on this agenda and trying to push back on the wide-open border but you had very little success you have the white house and democrat pushing forward the new york post is

reporting the president biden's executive order on emigration which shut down the border after daily crossing tip 4000 a day there is speculation he will do the executive order that would allow 4000 people to come in a day and that we are expecting. >> first of all it's a joke it's too little too late 97 executive orders that reverse tripod day one at biden's presidency has led to the domestic disaster and what he will do is try to placate and it's only for the election coming up. god forbid if he were elected again that will be pulled immediately in the flood of people would change congressional districts in voting patterns et cetera this is bs, smoking beers and will not do anything for the invasion that this nation is experienced. maria: you think this is a campaign talking point. >> absolutely. maria: todd piro. >> i would hundred% agree with

your assessment but i'm worried about the messaging, you know the mainstream leftist media is going to take the nugget and say president biden is doing something about the border there is no reason to not vote for him in 2024 how do republicans drive home the point and make it clear that joe biden has sat on the sidelines for three and half years while our country has been lost to illegal immigration and this is only a band-aid for the election. >> the good thing most people in the mainstream media don't trust him anymore and it's a very good thing in a common thing as democrats don't believe what you see, believe what we tell you this is way too little too late and the american people have really decided joe biden is a disaster when it comes to her border and anything he does from now on doesn't mean anything it's windowdressing i don't think they gained any traction with us whatsoever.

maria: put your doctors had him for a second you been at the doctors caucus that you are leading, what you make of the debates trump's says he wants both of them to be standing for the two hours biden says he doesn't want a live audience has to be trump and biden know rfk junior how does this play out from your perspective. >> is going to be interesting i'll be very plain and simple i was in the state of the union and joe biden must've been jacked up on something and i absolutely believe that from a medical viewpoint i have a little bit of good knowledge that that happened. he cannot stand any can't stand under the lights for that long and i don't think you can keep a concept in his brain for that long. it will be important that president trump stays presidential he did that during the last debate but not the first debate but he stays on track and shows the american people how much worse they are from four years ago and what

this president biden has done to destroy this country he has to stay in his lane president trump has to stay in his lane and act presidential sometimes he can get off on a wheel we all know that love that but sometimes it hurts his issues but biden will falter and falter if he doesn't have it right in front of him telling them what to do. maria: what you mean he was jacked up at the state of the union. >> i believe they gave him something to help them sustain the lights in the vigor that he had that was not joe biden that was in there he screamed for two hours. maybe we can talk off-line and i'll show you something and that proves that. maria: you will show me what. >> i think i have some evidence that shows he was given something before that. maria: in terms of a medicine. >> there is no way joe, he's 82 a picture taken on the beach

without his makeup on and he looks like an 82-year-old using a surgical scar in the back where he had his facelift you can see that plainly, he's been manufactured and puppeteer by the democratic party to be president of the united states and i fully believe that has to do with former collagen. maria: i would like to follow up and see more of that that's really compelling. we will follow it, thank you very much. congressman greg murphy. j.p. morgan ceo jv diamond calling for a full engagement with china on trading and investing after president biden's on beijing. gordon chang is here with reaction. a jury has been chosen on bob menendez corruption trial. everything you need to know on that coming up. stay with us. ♪

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maria: welcome back, russia and china planning to deepen their partnership later today as vladimir putin kicks off a two-day state visit to china. put in telling xi jinping the ties between moscow and beijing are one of the stabilizing factors in the international arena. president xi told putin they will always work with russia as a good neighbor, friend and partner the two leaders expected to hold informal talks later today on ukraine after putin said he backs china's ukraine peace plan ahead of the visit. gait stone institute and author of the coming collapse of china and china is going to work, gordon chang back with us. assess this partnership between china and russia. how concerned should the u.s. be on all of us. >> the big take away china and russia are flaunting their defiance of the united states in the west in the civilization and they did this in march of last

year when xi jinping was in moscow in xi jinping said were running the world and the united states is done in the comment about stabilizing ties is fascinating because china and russia are not stabilizing anything the roiling europe, africa and the middle east this is xi jinping playbook of creating chaos in the chinese and russians think this is fine this is the third right the soviet union and imperial japan getting together and saying it's our time now. >> it's good point, china is supporting russia's invasion and continued attack on ukraine, how did we get here that these two have been able to strengthen their partnership and compete against the united states so effectively. >> it started august 2021 with the catastrophic withdrawal from afghanistan that convince putin he can do whatever he wanted days before the invasion biden

says a minor incursion might be okay, then they take ukraine and china and russia go after north africa which is quite serious and china says okay to iran you can attack israel one after the other in the next domino we don't know what it will be but the south china against the philippines where china is engaged in belligerent tactics. >> it's quite serious you're absolutely right any need strong leadership in the white house to offset this, weigh in here. >> absolutely i hearken back to december 2023 when the treasury department said any entity in any way gave component pieces to procure military weapons to russia and the war against ukraine they would be sanctioned is this an example of the usa and don't we know that putin and she will be talking about procurement and how they can screw the sanctions.

>> that's an important point from the very beginning of russia's invasion from ukraine biden said no legal aid that's a redline but we know from open sources china was providing lethal aid and biden did not do anything until two weeks ago were the meaningless sanctions on a dozen chinese hong kong companies. if biden were really serious he would go after the banks that are financing this and he won't do it, that would catch china's attention but now, too tough for biden. he won't go after those companies trading on our exchanges where american investors are buying the stocks involving the expansion of communist china and helping to support the russian aggression as well, look about j.p. morgan jamie dimon said yesterday full engagement with china in an interview with sky news is that i think the market government is doing the right thing to fully engage there not an enemy but competing they wanted different world than we want they wanted different world than we want but unfortunately they are using the

world on our world of surveillance of the market citizens of business at military installations. >> in the poisoning of americans affected all 75000 deaths a year from a deliberate chinese plan to weaken the united states. this is a free country we have a first amendment jamie dimon can advocate a policy that hasn't worked for three decades, engagement sounds good to the ear in appeals to the better instincts of the american public but he completely failed. i think jv diamond is smarter than that. maria: is about the messages coming from the top i spoke with jamie dimon back in january of this year and it was about working to do with the law allows and maybe there gets united states but totally lawful to operate in china here is the chairman and ceo with me earlier this year. >> is your position on investing in and doing business in china changed.

>> the risk is high and dry if your investor said the risk reward has gotten worse i think it's true for most american companies and remember when you say investing in china we bank 500 multinationals around the world and china and we follow all american laws so americans have to set foreign policy. i employ the fact that the government and china are talking there should be tough negotiation around trade. maria: it is set at the white house level. janet yellen was on pbs news hour this week and i have to get your reaction she's talking about the tariffs that joe biden is putting on chinese goods comparing to trump because trump was tough on china, she says trump's tariffs are taxes on the consumer but biden's tariffs are better because of targeted, do you see a difference between the tariffs.

>> girl section 301 tariffs and chinese goods coming into the u.s. and by the way janet yellen is smarter than that because she should know trump's tariffs, four fifths were picked up by the chinese government and exporters so the american consumer did not pay there was no inflation because of the tariffs, janet yellen should know that but what can i say, it's a free country she could say whatever she wants. maria: but she's a treasury secretary and this demonstration has not done anything to push back on china's behavior. all the sudden six months before the election we see the tariffs and she's trying to say they're different than the trump tariffs. >> i cannot agree more that it comes from the top and in capitalism and we push the laws as far as we can know disagreement with jamie dimon but i look at that and say this is a guide the top of the top and if he's not willing to decouple from china what are the rest of us going to do what is the rest of wall street and we have an obligation from a patriotic perspective to try to

decouple. maria: that's what i said to him two years ago when i interviewed jamie dimon i said you cannot do all of this year the chairman and ceo of j.p. morgan you need to set the tone but he kept going back to the law is the law and we will follow the law and that is joe biden that needs to set the tone for business. >> that was august 2021 review with jamie dimon which is a landmark, he's the most influential voice in the global business community and you're right it has to be set from the top but the point is we know the committing genocide the biden administration has said it in both of them made formal declarations and we should not be dealing with a militant state that believes the united states is an enemy killing americans with fentanyl and committing genocide. >> my worry we don't hear the word decouple we heard it three or four years ago and i've not heard that since i just uttered

it. maria: the biden administration is announcing plans for an unofficial delegation to taiwan to the inauguration of the elect its schedule to taipei this weekend for meetings with local officials and they will state that the may 20 and grecian ceremony. i want to get your take. an unofficial delegation? what is an unofficial delegation. a delegation is a delegation. >> they just give intubation, they just did this after the election, there was still protest from beijing i think we will get the same consequences in the same increase in tension. maria: they walk in eggshells around xi jinping in the chinese notice and the more you accommodate the worse they are we need an american president who says we win, you lose that's ronald reagan's playbook it worked against the soviet union and will work against china at biden were to implement. >> they keep going back that

were not adversaries we are competitors but the last time i checked if you are in a game against a competitor you want to win and you want your competitor to lose. maria: a competitor does not send the surveillance balloon into the country to steal secrets from her military bases. a competitor does not steal intellectual property. a competitor does not send fentanyl through the country and kill american citizens. a competitor does not allow a leak of devastating disease and cover it up. i think were beyond competitor but the white house does not see it that way. >> china deliberately spread the disease but on this borders after got into the chinese population with the help of the world health organization by the way. the chinese collison enemy we should return the favor. maria: we will leave it there. thank you so much. we'll be right back. ♪

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trump's tariffs in the past when she called at the time attacks on the consumer, janet yellen argues that biden's tariffs are different because they focus on the targeted group of strategic sectors, citadel ceo can griffin slamming biden over the incoherent economic policies and praising trump is a strong candidate stopping short of a financial backing trump's campaign until he chooses a running mate. overall let's be clear president biden just doubled down on the truck tariffs in the national retail federation has already come out and said this is going to be a problem for the consumer so you can listen to janet yellen or the national retail federation it is your choice. maria: something has got to give. if you have companies paying more money for sanctions are probably going to pass it on to consumers, you could argue whether or not here should be on chinese goods but if you ask american businesses there going to say yes china keeps dumping

products at cheaper levels and something needs to be done. >> ford is already losing $100,000 on every single ev sale so they're absolutely going to pass the cost to consumers but i wonder how the progressive puppeteers that are managing joe biden are feeling about this because all of the tariffs when janet yellen says are targeting specific sectors, this is targeting the green new deal and green energy. were talking about solar panels, ev's, ev batteries, china obviously have the rare-earth minerals in the green new deal was positive for china. in the be interesting to see the tariffs were probably the most maga republican thing biden could do. >> when janet yellen was pushed about in the interview saying your thinking has evolved in july of 2021 when you were asked about the trump era tariffs you said there were taxes on

consumers. then she says no, no they are different because there's so targeted as you said. >> i don't put a lot of stock into what janet yellen says about how it will affect the consumer we remember when she said inflation was transitory and going to be fleeting, look where we are now. maria: she's drinking beers in beijing. >> a lot of time janet yellen says in the same breath that the purchasing power for american households is stronger than ever then she says moments later it's a most impossible for young americans to buy a house, which is it. >> the latest example that president biden had left donald trump's policies in place from the economy to the border to this he would be winning in the swing states that he's getting housed in. maria: another area where voters feel donald trump to the better job in terms of handling china. coming up day 18 of president trump so-called new york hush

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