market that the fed would cut seven times. now reduced it to one. now two. we've been all over the place this is really difficult economy to forecast. liz: send 10 seconds two or three or one cut this is year. >> i hope we get through. i suspect one or two. liz: mohammed, great to have you. we can talk tomorrow after the data is out. you're always welcome back after the data is out. >> thank you, liz. liz: mohammed elerian here. the dow looks to gain 40 points. nasdaq in the green up 28 points. [closing bell rings] cme group pottery duffy joins us in a fox business exclusive. that will do it for the claman countdown. kudlow is next. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. so after allowing roughly 10 million illegals into the

country president joe biden finally announces an executive action about the border. i don't think it will solve anything but we'll hear from wyoming senator john barrasso in just a moment. tommy tuberville later on in the show. first up however our own edward lawrence live at the white house. he was there at the president's announcement. so edward, are what's cooking with all of this. >> reporter: potentially the president now laid the groundwork for large-scale deportations of people crossing the border. the executive actions if the number of people crossing between borders, reaches 2500 no more asylum claims is taken. until the number gets back down to 1500 level. that is when those asylum claims will be taken again. at the moment 3100 people a day are crossing between borders. so under this plan tomorrow people crossing between ports of entry will be deportenned under

title 8 if they don't mean heightened u.n. convention of credible torture. president biden: this will restore order in the process. this ban will remain in place until the number of people trying to enter illegally is reduced to a level our system can effectively managed. >> reporter: there are some exemptions though. unaccompanied minors will be exempt. raising concerns about child trafficking. 1500 a day with appointments through the cpb one app or exempted country list would also be allowed in. already more than five million people including known got-aways currently reside in this country who crossed the border illegal i under president biden. 26 states including district of columbia have population less than five million people. those moved into the united states legally extremely upset. >> my family had every type of visa you can imagine as you should and going through the

process, as i mentioned my husband's family became refugees for many, many years. they had to wait months and both pal years old and lost everything during the war in ukraine. i think we need to follow the process. >> reporter: fox news power ranks, former president trump with an 18 point lead on border policies. critics are saying what the president did today was too late. back to you. larry: edward a couple quickies on this. so very important but there is not much on paper if you will about this whole idea. did he say anything about deporting criminals? did he say anything about working with sanctuary cities and sanctuary states using 287-g of the immigration and nationality act? he is using 212 f but will he use 287 to stop criminality and

lawlessness? any talk about deportation at all? >> reporter: not of those folks currently in the country. that is not what this is about. this is under title eight what they're using. if you do the math, united states said they had 36 deportation flights in the past two days. say 200 people per flight, 7200 people. you have 3100 people crossing each day. so under this, they're going to fill up those facilities. so what happens when they can't deport all the people they need to deport? this is the issue. and you know there has been some discussion, some concern about hey, maybe they're just going to have to let go some of these folks? we'll have to to see in a couple days when the facilities get full with deport east what happens to those people. when you're flying back to nepal, we found, from china, those are long flights. you can't just turn that plane right around. larry: got it. edward lawrence, thank you very much, we appreciate it. joe biden can pretend all he

wants that he is solving this border catastrophe but frankly nobody believes it. that is the subject of the riff. joe biden's not going to fool anybody. this last-ditch election ploy to curb the flow of illegal immigrants coming into the u.s. looks to be vague, riddled with exceptions an frankly unenforceable. then again does anybody really believe mr. biden wants to enforce any limits to illegal immigration? don't think so. i mean here's a guy whose policies have already let in at least 10 million illegals with all the horrors that accompany that number including sex trafficking, drug trafficking, kidnapping, crime, and enormous experience to taxpayers. joe biden refuses to invoke section 287-g of the immigration and nationality act which empowers the border authorities to work with local police enforcement in sanctuary cities in order to identify, catch and

then deport criminals. now an effort like this would pay huge dividends and would send the right message to the illegals themselves where they're from. there will be a numbers game coming out of the white house but frankly nobody is going to believe it. i've seen estimates when migration is limited to 2500 per day, if you put that for a full calendar year, crossings would hit 912,000 but hundreds of thousands more have come in using the cpb 1 app. of course biden recently issued an executive order to let in roughly 400,000 through a mass parole scheme. cubans, haitians, nicaraguans, they can all fly directly into america. that is another 400,000. so analysis in the new york post suggests suggests biden's new crackdown could still permit 1.75 million new arrivals every year. now does anybody have confidence that he will even implement

that? my thought is, how about zero illegals entering into the u.s. each year? personally i'm very much in favor of legal immigrants, maybe a million or so each year. that by the way was a number proposed by then president trump but let's not blur the distinction between legal and illegal. legal immigrants who speak english, who know some american history and sings, provide evidence they have a job waiting for them or going to make a significant investment into american business, these are all ideas put forward by the trump administration using a point-based system that shows qualifying or non-qualifying. this policy by the way copied from countries like canada, new zealand and australia who have very successful, legal immigration programs but the

democratic congress would have none of trump's plan. joe biden never mentions a plan for legal immigration reform and that's a pity because a good plan would solve so many problems. now one more point, in his brilliant speech in waukesha, wisconsin earlier in may, mr. trump talked about the spiraling cost of illegal immigration and how that is going to damage major entitlement programs. take a listen to what he said. >> i mean it's just, it is a going to end up cutting social security by allowing millions and millions which is not sustainable of people coming into our country through the southern border you're going destroy social security. you're going to destroy medicare. you will destroy the fabric of the country. it is not sustainable. it is not affordable by any country. larry: this is such an important point. so far cost estimates for food, housing and health care are

running upwards of $150 billion, that according to the house budget committee. in all likelihood the true cost is much greater but trump's point is so important. the spiraling cost of illegal immigration will crowd out america's basic entitlement system. this is a problem no one but mr. trump has dared raise. on the other hand just ask taxpayers on the street already footing high cost bills of illegal immigration. joe biden can pretend all he wants that he is solving this problem but the reality is, nothing is going to change. nothing is going to change until that is the white house changes hands, all right? that's my riff. now, joining us to talk about this we welcome back to the show senator john barrasso of the great state of wyoming. mr. barrasso as always, sir, great to see you. you heard my riff, but what's

your own riff, what's your take on this thing? >> larry, great to be with you, this is the politics of panic and it is much too little too late and the white house and biden, every open border democrat has a right to be panicked because they know our open border is the number one concern of american voters. they know they let 10 million illegal immigrants into this country. that is what they have done over the years biden has been in office. they have 94 executive orders, democrats have put forward opening the border. now they have one that they say they're going to try to shut it down. this is campaign camouflage. that's all that it is. this is the biden administration saying oh, my god, we know that we're in trouble, we know that the american people don't trust us on the border. we have to do something. we have to pretend we're doing something. whereas if they really wanted to do something to secure the border, they would finish the wall, they would get rid of the policy which is

catch-and-release. we would restore the remain in mexico policy that worked so well while president trump was in the white house. larry: by the way the newly-elected president of mexico, the woman, she said she would stop to cooperate with the immigration problem. obrador, a.m. low was cooperative with trump. when biden repealed all the executive others mexico turned its back. to this day never restored the 25,000 troops they put on the border to stop all of this. as you well know this history, mr. barrasso. just a simple question, who is going to enforce this, how is this going to be enforced? honestly 2500 per day for a week. then we go to 1500. then we go up, i don't understand this. we don't have the man power. already it is bad enough that the border authorities are being used as babysitters rather than

actually military authority those be stopping be how will this be enforced? i don't get it? >> the open border democrats have no interest in enforcing it. they're interested in smoothing the flow, instead of stopping flood of illegal immigrants coming into this country. when joe biden walked into the white house that first day our southern border was secure. so the democrats are completely responsible for the drugs and death and destruction that has come into our country ever since. we're talking about criminal cartels, drug dealers, people on the criminal watch list, the terrorist watch list. those are the people that are threatening america. that is who the attorney general was talking about today in the house when he said he is really worried about a terrorist attack. you've seen that venezuelan, the 19-year-old who just shot two police officers in new york. remember it is the democrats who stopped building the wall. the democrats stopped "remain in mexico" and brought us this catch and release. it is democrats that stopped allowing our border patrol to do what they needed to do to

enforce the law. i believe come november, that the american people are going to hold all these open border democrats as well as joe biden responsible, accountable and throw them out of office. larry: is anybody talking about, seriously niche talking about deporting criminals? that is tied up with sanctuary cities. i just heard, there is a story in today's "new york post," i think it was today's, sir, might have been yesterday, the post reports how our mayor eric adams who can be so good, so not so good, i don't want to get into that, a different segment, adams meeting with biden officials in washington, basically said he wants to end new york city's status as a sanctuary city. he actually said that. had an argument with the white house senior staff person who is now the campaign manager as i recall in this story and basically said i can't get rid of these criminals and i don't want to pay for them. we're going to change our status

away from the sanctuary city. now as you know, senator barrasso, that is a key element of solving this problem or beginning to solve it. is anybody in the white house or the administration or dhs or, i don't know, you know, humpty-dumpty sitting on a wall? is anybody talking about this? these would be meaningful solutions? >> i agree with you, larry, they would be meaningful solutions. i don't think the democrats want that. the democrats love that sanctuary cities are magnets for illegal immigrants. see it in colorado, denver, see it in san francisco, see it in chicago. what that means, more illegal immigrants moved there, they're now counted as part of census. as you know the census in my opinion should be for u.s. citizens. it should be for anybody that happens to be there. they use the census to determine how many congressional seat as state gets. how many electoral college votes that state gets.

it impacts our elections. so many blue states people are leaving, they want to get out of there with states with high taxes, that crime, they need population centers to continue their role in elections. the white house is happy to have all sanctuary cities as magnets for illegal immigrants counted as part of the census. larry: i would make a small suggestion with the greatest of humility, you and your colleagues put together a legal immigration reform, a legal immigration reform plan and please feel free to borrow heavily from what many of us in the trump administration worked on in 2020. the clock ran out. the democratic congress didn't want to touch it. you may recall this, john, based on a point system, know some civics, speak english, know some american history, show you can get a job make an investment into an american business. we borrowed heavily from canada,

new zealand, australia, which have frankly much better legal systems than we have. i think it would be great to show a positive. here is what a legal system can look like. we'll have big changes. restore remain in mexico, the wall and so forth, deport criminals, all that yes, at the same time, here is what the legal system would look like. run on a positive platform. democrats don't want to touch that one with a 20-foot pole, they never did. >> it would only work if donald trump was back in the white house. he would actually enforce the law. we have a lawless president right now in joe biden and lawless democrats who will not enforce the law even if that was the law that was passed. they're not enforcing laws on the books now. there has not been a change in the law since you and president trump left the white house and biden came in. the border was secure the day he came in and no law has been changed. it is a matter of what they refuse to enforce, which is why

we have 10 million illegal immigrants in the country today with the crime, the drugs and depths of despair. that's what happened here because of joe biden and the open border democrats, we need to clean house. larry: they will break the entitlement system. trump is right. the cost of this thing will be astronomical, they will bust up social security, medicare, medicaid for that matter. they're well on their way of doing that i get it. i think it is whole thing is a tragedy. this aren't going to solve anything. i agree with you about the lawlessness. >> sanctuary city of denver, south of wyoming, greatest state in the country, colorado, sanctuary city, demands of illegal immigrants are costing the city so much they have had to lay off police officers and lay off members of the fire department. we're trying to recruit them to come to wyoming if they're looking for work. larry: you're right, sir. here in new york they have thrown kids out, minority kids out of school so they can make

school to house the illegals. i mean can you imagine that? as you yourself said, tragically, two cops, new york's finest in queens, were shot by some venezuelan criminal who of course was an illegal. no, no, i get it sir. do you have a spare moment to, phone calls, you know, brook rollins, steve miller, chad wolf, they helped put together the legal system proposals for mr. trump. you might want to check in. just my two cents, senator barrasso. >> we need donald trump back in the white house. that is what we need. that will help solve this problem dramatically. larry: yes, sir. >> and a republican senate and a republican house of representatives. we need it all. larry: no disagreements on this end, sir. thank you, senator, john barrasso, greatest state in america which is wyoming as he just told you us. folks coming up next, here is another interesting story, the atlanta fed's gdp forecast, okay, get this, for the second quarter, slashed from over 4% to just 1.8% in a up do

of weeks. remember the first quarter gdp was 1.3%. so it looks like a slowdown slump has taken hold. we've got mike fall kenter, "breitbart"'s john carney weigh in on all of this stuff. i guess illegals are crowding out real wages for the american nationals too. that is another problem. we'll be right back. i'm kudlow. did i read this? did i get eggs? where are my keys? memory and thinking issues keep piling up? it may be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain. visit morethannormalaging.com ♪ in any business,

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larry: let's talk economics. mike fall can der, american policy institute and "breitbart"'s john carney. gentlemen, welcome. jon, you're day-to-day guy with your great "breitbart" bulletin. the hotlanta fed marked down its gdp for q2 to 1.8%. they were above four at the beginning of the quarter. as you know the first quarter was 1.3. a lot of this was because of the slump in manufacturing and today the jolts report showed that job openings continued to decline. so it looks like a slump is in process, john carney, what do you think? >> so the 57% decline in gdp now is probably overstating what happened. there is no way in three weeks that the economi

a little wary of reading too much into that decline but i do think that there is a real signs of a slump happening in the economy. if you look the way the stock market has been responding to economic news, it has gone from reading bad news equals good news because the fed is going to cut to bad news actually being bad news. we were up a little bit today but not by very much. you would have thought if we got a weak jolts number the stock market would throw a big party because the fed would cut. i think that didn't happen because investors are wary with what is going on in the economy. larry: mike falkander, it is the business side, yes, real retail sales looked very sloppy this year, but, the ism manufacturing report dovetails with lousy numbers for industrial production, manufacturing production, and the production of business equipment and machinery, right? that's the business side or the supply side of the economy.

and that will drive things down. i mean, in some sense if you look under the hood, it's business that really drives the economy, not the consumer. you know, there is this gross output model, i don't want to go into it, we don't have enough time but i'm just saying business-to-business spending is very important and it looks very slumpy fall can der? >> yeah we're seeing weakness in quite a lot of places, larry. as you said the i ism numbers lk weak, industrial production numbers, if you go back to the consumer side the numbers last three months in inflation adjusted terms are flatdowntown in february, down in april, very minor increase in march. look at the pce number which came out last week the biggest contributor to the gdp number, it was down for the month of april which april is the biggest contributor to the q2 number around so it does seem like there's a slowdown on the consumer side. you've got all the things that

you mentioned on the business side. couple that with the fact that the biden administration is just in overdrive in its regulatory zeal in order to get a bunch of rules out that will continue to slum business investment, and it's no wonder that you're seeing this reduction in forecasts of economic out put. larry: we talked about it last night with former energy secretary rick perry. we talked about how the biden administration wants to jail oil and gas ceos. what a fun thing. trump is not enough, they want to go after oil and gas ceos. we may all be next. john carney, the fed is not going to cut-rates though, is it? >> no, the fed will not cut-rates. one or two months of weakness is not enough to get them to cut. there are people who are saying they will cut in july or september. i think there is no way they cut in july. the september one would create a political explosion. larry i do want to say some signs while april is very weak,

may may have had a little bit of a rebound. if you look at things like jobless claims or the s&p global pmi, it is kind of indicating that april was bad, may might not be as bad. so, you know the gdp now number is pretty much all april numbers right now. we're just getting in may. so we could actually see a little bit of a rebound. larry: yeah, i take the isms over those s&ps, that is just me, that's just my view. mike falkander we've been talking about joe biden's faux attempts to curb illegal immigration. how much of a hit are real wages taking as a result of this pandemic of illegal immigration? >> well you know, larry, back in the trump administration we had the blue-collar boom that you and i talked about so often and a lot of it came to the fact we finally had some labor pressure on middle and lower income jobs because there wasn't this flood

of illegals putting downward pressure on wages. so for the first time in quite a long time you sawdust steel production workers and non-supervisory workers seeing higher wage growth than managers and supervisors. the bottom half of the income producers were seeing higher wage increases than the top half. when you have a competitive labor market for low-skilled, medium-skilled jobs you will get better outcomes. whereas if you flood the market with illegals. you allow them to have work permits so they immediately enter the workforce, that will depress wages particularly at the lower, middle income portion of distribution. larry: we looked at some numbers last night. real wages went up, i don't know, per family, on average by i think close to $6,000 during the trump years. all four trump years including the pandemic. >> that's right. larry: real wages under biden have fallen over $2000. that is an 8,000-dollar swing is

quite remarkable. i think why the polls are bad as they are. john carney you written about this i don't have enough time. we're hassled with this biden immigration, faux immigration, appreciate you coming on thanks. mike falkander, john carney. thanks. coming up next on "kudlow," more on biden peace so-called border plan. we'll talk with the great senator tommy tuberville on "kudlow." please stick i thought i'd buy stilts. being so tall definitely has its advantages. around.

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what can you do with spy? ♪ ♪ [thunder rumbles] ♪ ♪ >> for more on this job jobe border catastrophe, let's go straight to fox news senior national correspondent william la jeunesse who is in los angeles. women, what you got? >> reporter: larry on the left they say the order is illegal. on the right critics say the loopholes make it meaningless. since joe biden took office, they apprehended 1.8 million illegals, that averages 6,000 a

day, well above the 2500 threshold where the border patrol is supposed to turn migrants back to mexico or fly them home. compare the president's remarks today to 2020 when he criticized president trump who ordered asylum speakers to stay in mexico. president biden: i'm announcing actions to bar migrants who cross our southern border unlawfully from receiving asylum. migrants will be restricted from receiving asylum at our southern border unless they seek it after entering through an established lawful process. you come to the united states, you make your case i seek asylum based on following premise, why i deserve it under american law. they're sitting in squalor on the other side of the river. >> reporter: criti believes say biden's order number one exempts thousands of unaccompanied minors. two, it doesn't apply to the 1500 migrants the administration is flying in daily using the cpb 1 app.

most problematic the u.s. doesn't have detention space to hold the asylum-seekers proceedings who can't be deport to the countries like china, cuba, middle east. republicans say they political stunt. the aclu plans to challenge it in court believing a federal judge will toss it out. larry: william la jeunesse, thank you very much. appreciate it. for more let's bring in alabama senator tommy tuberville. mr. tuberville as always welcome. look, the courts challenged trump but he went through with his executive orders anyway. joe biden could have done this 3 1/2 years ago as you well know but here is my question. he is using now finally section 212 f of the immigration and nationalization act. all right, finally, but, but, but, there is something as you know called 278 g -- 287-g which is the deportation of criminals.

border patrol people can work with local law enforcement, get through the sake sanctuary city business, and deport criminals, that is more important than anything else. biden won't touch that, why is that, senator? >> he won't touch that, he believes in mass amnesty. that is all this is. get your popcorn and coke out, here it comes another trick show, dog and dog-and-pony showy will push this on american people. i heard a senator from arizona this is the greatest thing ever. this is stupidity. american taxpayers need protection. the citizens need protection, larry. it is out of control. these people can smell a cent of an election coming up. it will get worse and worse as we go. they see the polls. it is all about polling. they're getting killed in the election. they know it. they're trying to trick the american people into something they're not going to deport anybody. they want everybody to come here possible.

75,000 is just what joe biden wants. he will let mayorkas bring in many more on the side with exceptions. larry: that's the thing, nobody knows this numbers game. all of our reporters is the same thing. you know if you combine exceptions with whatever 2500 a day. then you combine that, they're flying them in the cities, nobody knows what this is going to amount to. it probably means a little bit less. then again, senator tuberville, do you think it will be less? honestly, do you think that the word is out and we're going to strengthen the border patrol? the border patrol would probably like to be strengthened but i don't see the biden administration really doing that. do you think any of this will be enforced honestly? >> know, no, it will never be enforced larry. they want more voters. they want more people here that will listen to them, abide by them, vote for them, do everything they possibly can to do that. it is costing american taxpayers billions and billions of dollars unfortunately. crime is everywhere. but we've got to get control of

this. it is a war on other country. there is no republican or democrat anymore, larry. this anti-american, they want it their way. we want to keep america and our constitution our way. it is a war. we better start understanding that. we better wake up to it because what they're trying to do here is just trick us into something else. all it is smoke and mirrors, magic show. that is although they know how to do. they will not change one thing. they will let them come in, let them destroy our country. here they come from palestine pretty soon. i told you that, larry, a little earlier, they will bring people from palestine in the very near future. larry: wow. we'll have to leave it there. folks are not dumb, senator tuberville, you are 100% right, sir. anyway, thanks for helping out, today we appreciate it very much. all right, let's see, switching gears, day two of hunter biden's gun case down there in fabulous wilmington, connecticut, no, it is wilmington, delaware, i had

connecticut on my mind. david spunt in wilmington, delaware, with all the latest. thank you, david. what's up? >> reporter: hey, larry, no worries. hunter biden left about 20 seconds ago when you were finishing up with senator tuberville. day two is in the books. the prosecution opened today by telling jurors, no one is above the law, doesn't matter if your name is jones, smith or spunt, kudlow or biden here in the state of delaware. the first witness up today was a fbi agent who came on board in 2023 last fall, five years after the alleged crime. you see hunter biden on screen left and first lady jill biden on rifing. special counsel says that hunter biden smoked cracked roughly 20 minutes around the time he purchased this gun in 2008. the first witness was the fbi agent named erica jenson. she talked about the case in

2023. talked about the addiction period when hunter bought the gun. hunter's own audio book was played in court, a dramatic moment with jurors hearing hills own words discussing his addiction. his sister ashley biden getting emotional, while the first lady put her arm around her. abby lowell, hunter's told jury he was abusing alcohol, not drugs, when he bought the handgun in 2008. that is lowell on the between. hunter was rushed by the local salesman in the will ming wilmington, delaware store. the prosecution cannot establish chain of custody of gun pouch with alleged cocaine residue. why? hallie biden, later in a relationship with hunter, tampered with the pouch. lowell claimed hallie biden panicked found the gun in hunter biden's car, threw it in a pouch, in local grocery can

outside of a local grocery store. someone going through the garbage can found the gun. it has been in evidence five years. something else shown in court been in evidence half a decade in evidence locker room, hunt hunter biden's laptop. it was physically lifted up by prosecutors shown in court t was not plugged in. they did not take things directly from the laptop for people to see. prosecutors are showing evidence from the laptop overall but it was the first time that anybody really in the public has had a chance to see that laptop for those in the courtroom including the jury, larry. larry: wow, that's all i can say. david spunt thank you very much for all of that. we appreciate it. all right, folks let's talk with liz peek, syndicate syndicated columnist, fox news contributor, tammy bruce, syndicated columnist. criminal from venezuela shot two

cops in queens. it makes my blood boil. we'll all been in new york city a long time this is not the first. probably won't be the last, an yet, and yet, biden's plan does not a thing to deport criminals. this guy was caught red handed. >> so, this isn't the first crime perpetrated against law enforcement or citizens of new york from these people who have come into the country illegally. larry this is a major problem for joe biden, not just pause overall the country is looking at this horrible situation saying got to stop it, here who is upset about this, is hispanics. in the last week i talked to two more hispanics, i'm never voting for this administration again. my neighborhood has been taken over by venezuelan gangs, drug dealers, et cetera. i don't think the biden team understand this is is a double whammy. everybody is offended by it, but their loss with the hispanic, if

you look polling approval under immigration under biden hispanics are worse than more negative than the public overall and for good reason. larry: tammy, i want to ask you if you agree with liz. i think from day one this border collapse has exploded in biden's space. i think liz's point is correct. i don't think the bidens understand that. they're trying to buy votes giving them a few hundred dollars in home mortgages and student loan cancellations this is what is causing it. there is no safety anymore. there is random crime. cops, by the way, hispanics are cops. african-americans are cops. >> that's true. larry: firemen and women and so forth, so on. please. >> it exposes how cloistered the biden administration, democratic party, i may say washington, d.c. really is. i think they got away with it for a period of time because they were committed to the lie, oh, the border is closed everything is fine. it was a fox news drone, i believe, that was really the only video that was showing the

american people chaos at the border because there is nobody else was discussing it. and you could see this building. so the biden administration has known. they chose from the beginning to mislead people, to gaslight, which indicates to you that they know it's a problem. they know that the american people won't like it but it didn't matter to them. and that is why, it is like, being on a bullet train with no brakes. like they're going, they committed to going, and they just cannot stop very much like, in your last segment, an addict. they just can't stop and they have such little regard for the american people. they're not considering, they're not considering what it is they should say to us or what to do to improve our lives or in fact they think it is beneath them to do so. that they can't let go of us in this framework. >> i think you're kind of wrong, tammy. i think they just didn't get how it would play out. this was a huge part of the american people who are very offenderred by donald trump's

actions on board. guess what, they got it wrong. >> liz, that's my point. they didn't anticipate we were functioning individuals. that we would respond and believe that we had the voice, were willing to say enough is enough. that we didn't matter to them. as a result we didn't matter to ourselves. larry: that crowd, the biden crowd, doesn't understand that minority groups, i don't care what group you are, asian, hispanic, blacks, minority groups are for law and order also. >> yes. larry: they have families also. >> right. larry: they have businesses also. they have kids in school also. >> consider the bodega association backing trump. i totally agree with you. larry: this is part of their miscalculation. they're a bunch of elitist dopes. >> they really are. larry: you know what it is? i was having this conversation the other night at a dinner. it is fascinating. they're not liberals. liberals understood a lot of this stuff. you could have a conversation with a liberal. i used to be a liberal. i enjoyed being a liberal at

least for a while. >> same here. larry: these are far-left radicals. they are idealogues. they don't understand anything about community life, that is the key. i got to get out. >> the key with hispanics and others come to this country, reliance on public schools and faith. that is something democrats don't consider. larry: we didn't have time, this whole thing will bankrupt social security. save that for another segment. we'll serve it right up. liz peek, thank you, tammy bruce, thank you ever so much. coming up what is wrong with the military? well we've got the great pete hegseth will tell us about his new book, the war on warriors. behind the betrayal of the men who kept us fry. i'm kudlow. i'm kudlow. be right back. ♪. are everywhere you turn. do you charge forward? freeze in your tracks? (♪) or, let curiosity light the way. at t. rowe price, we're asking smart questions

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♪. larry: so what's wrong with the military right now? important question. joining us pete hegseth, co-host of "fox & friends weekend." author of the new book, the war on warriors, behind the betrayal of men who keep us free. it is available now. i'm sure one click on whatever your favorite site is. pete hegseth, welcome. what is wrong with the military. >> the military is the ultimate meritocracy. how good are you at your job. we break you down. build you back up to be a member of a team.

instead it has become about social ideologies permeated from the very top. reinforcing the idea, no, you're, you're unique. your diversity is your strength. diversity is not the strength of the military. the strength of the military is unity, unity of purpose, unity of mission. black, white, you all wear green, you bleed red, you're in the mission together. when you start to erode those basic fundamentals, you get people don't want to join, which is why recruiting is suffering. you get warfighters in the ranks who want to leave. you add things like vaccine mandates. you add things like the debacle in afghanistan. senior leaders who are promoted by willingness to kowtow to the biden, obama priorities. larry: quick pause on that. you have a military man running the department of the defense, secretary austin n this cabinet he is not the worst of the group. >> not the best,. larry: he is a four-star, whatever title he has with the joint chiefs. he ought to know better. what's wrong? >> you would think.

the book is not how the military went woke. how the military allowed itself to go woke. people like lloyd austin, in the uniform, in and out of it, whether personal beliefs, against all enemies foreign and domestics. the best fighting force on the planet. we'll not try a social experiment. we'll not lower standard to allow women in this unit. we'll not allow tran soldiers in that are not medically deployable for a year. things that might look good in harvard but not in the 101st airborne. they let it happen. they're cowards. they are afraid to tell the political leaders no. that is how it changes. larry: you will need big changes from the top down. >> donald trump know this. we have can't have a woke military. i will fire these generals. you have to do it. >> pick up copy of pete's new book, warriors, behind the betrayal of men who keep us free. appreciate it, buddy.

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>> so much information in the biden border, you have to deport the criminals, you have got to deport the criminals that are tearing up our police forces in our cities and our families and our schools, that is what has to change maybe among a million other things, no more answers i'm going to go to liz mcdonald she has the scoop. >> thank you so much, joining is