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kudlow. the supreme court issued the most high-profile and historic decision for the year, majority ruling that presidents have substantial immunity for prosecution, for official acts not necessarily unofficial acts. the high court punned matter back down to the lower court further delaying jack smith's case against the former president. we'll talk about it with gregg jarrett and will scharf in just a moment. first lydia hu standing by with details on the court's landmark ruling. lydia. >> reporter: david we got the landmark ruling from a divided supreme court that former president trump has limited immunity in special counsel jack smith's criminal prosecution of alleged election interference. the opinion coming down 6-3 along idealogical lines, ruling that former presidents can be prosecuted for unofficial acts, immune from prosecution over official acts. chief justice john roberts writing for the majority this, the president therefore may not

be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers and going on to say that the immunity applies equally to all occupants of the oval office regardless of politics, policy, or party. liberal justices dissented. justice sotomayor writing this for example, today's decision to grant former presidents criminal immunity reshapes the institution of the presidency. it makes a mockery of the principles foundational to our constitution and system of government that no man is above the law. now the case is remanded to the lower federal trial court to determine whether trump's four felony counts in the election interference case meet the criteria for an official act immune from prosecution. this process, expected to be time-consuming, requiring evidentiary hearings and briefings, david they have not happened yet. now though the high court did not offer trump the protection of full and absolute immunity

that he wanted, today's decision still considered a victory for trump in the short term. it seems like any trial in this d.c. case likely delayed until well past election day. david, back to you. david: trump certainly considered a victory for himself. so did a lot of his lawyers. lydia, thank you very much. for more on this let's bring in gregg jarrett, fox news legal analyst, will scharf, trump attorney and former federal prosecutor. gentlemen thanks for being here. gregg, big question in everybody's mind, does this decision, sends it back to the lower court, more back and forth going on, will it delay jack smith's trial until after the election? >> i think it's quite possible that it will because it goes back to the trial court and tonya chutken, who is the trial court judge has to hold evidentiary hearings. that may involve witnesses perhaps. and if trump doesn't get what he wants he will file on i'm quite sure an immediate appeal.

if that is granted, then you're talking about litigation that could stretch into weeks, maybe even months but there are a couple of things i think a lot of people are overlooking. first of all this is a presumptive protection for the president for official acts. which shifts the burden of proof to a guy like jack smith and that is a high burden. second of all he said the trial court cannot look into the motives of the president. that is forbidden by the separation of powers. so all of this, you put it together, it makes it look much harder for jack smith to pursue his case against donald trump. david: will as usual, i think gregg hit the heart of the issue is the motives issue, jack smith knew he would have trouble if he had to get into it. the supreme court says now you can't get into it. let me read what they said about the motive issue. in divining official from unofficial conduct courts may not inquire into the president's

motives. such highly intrusive inquiry would risk exposing even the most obvious instances of official conduct through judicial examination on the mere allegation of improper purpose. that really takes a quiver out of jack smith's collection of arrows, doesn't it? >> it does and the courts general ruling the prosecution can't use immune acts or evidence of immune acts even to prove intent with respect to non-immune acts. taking together all the aspects of this opinion strike a fatal blow at the heart of jack smith's d.c. prosecution. what we're looking at here, is a very broad immunity, immunity doctrine that when applied to the facts in this case i believe make this case essentially untruable. we have many months of litigation ahead of us on the immune versus non-immune distinction. that could easily as gregg said

result in further appeals, including potentially all the way up to the supreme court but i think the immediate takeaway this d.c. prosecution is on life-support. it may even be in hospice care. larry: but gregg, is saying, sticking with you for a second, will, gregg is saying there is still a chance you have to be careful with regard to jack smith's, his determination to get it done before the election is obvious because it is such a political case anyway. you say it's close to zero chance of a trial before the election? >> yes. and in fact when you look at the majority opinion authored by chief justice roberts he has some very strong statements about how the courts have rushed this case at every stage and he clearly disapproves of the fact that this case has proceeded on a political timeline and not a normal legal team line. so again, i think taken, taking every aspect of this opinion together, looking at the immunity doctrine that the supreme court has created, it will be essentially impossible

for this case to move to trial before the election day. if it ever gets to trial at all. i think this has dealt again a near fatal blow to the d.c. prosecution. and this case also may have ramifications in florida and new york as well. david: we'll talk about that in a moment. gregg, i want to pull back and look why thisimmune issue is so important because they really talked about. you as a constitutional scholar i'm sure were interested in this part. i will read it out again. an enterprising prosecutor, i was thinking about squawk smith when they wrote this, an enterprising prosecutor in a new administration may assert a previous president violated a broad statute. without immunity, such types of prosecutions of ex-presidents could quickly become routine. the enfeebling of our presidency and government woe result from a cycle of fractional strife is exactly what the framers intended to avoid, to which you

say what? >> well-said. all presidents have unique responsibilities under the constitution that demand independence to function effectively and regardless of their party, david, they must be protected from bad faith prosecutions driven by political animus which is exactly what special counsel jack smith has done. understand, this isn't blanket immunity. it is what i call conditional albeit presumptive protection official acts not private acts. as i predicted, the court adopted the exact same standard enunciated in nixon versus fitzgerald four decades ago that shields presidents from civil liability, the same reasoning applies to criminal culpability as well. otherwise it would have a severe chilling effect on presidents. larry: yeah, yeah. i again looking at the overall issue here, i think you wanted to get into this a little bit,

will, the idea of the politicalization or weaponization of our legal system, lawfare is the catchphrase for that, i mean, this, what we see here i think is what really scared the supreme court, particularly with regard to the intentions of the people who developed our constitution. they did not want lawfare. they did not want the politicalization of our legal system. they wanted to legal those things separate but that's exactly what all these cases, not just the jack smith cases but all these cases really tend to do, no? >> i think that's exactly right. you know, justice gorsuch perhaps said it best at oral argument. he said the case is not really about president trump. it is a case for the ages. what kind of republic does our constitution set out? how does the separation of powers going to operate in the future? and today the supreme court drew a very firm line under the idea that these sorts of political prosecutions, the enless cycle of recrimination and

prosecution, that jack smith's efforts here and joe biden's efforts here may have opened, the supreme court slammed that door shut and said that with respect to former presidents, immunity protects them from prosecution for their official conduct, that the grant of immunity is broad and deep and that we need to shut this sort of thing down before it destroys, absolutely destroys the institution of the presidency. larry: gregg, it is not just about the president. the former president is always saying it is not just about me. first it is me, then it is going to be you. the fisher case which was decided on friday, the case of mr. fisher, a former cop who was there on january 6th. he was, he was charged with obstruction in kind of a bank shot legal play that the supreme court knocked down on friday. i'm just wondering, that's first of all, it is not just good for mr. fisher, it is good for a lot of other people that were charged with that, including the president because two of the

charges that jack smith had could be affected by that, right? >> yes. the ruling in fisher on friday essentially guts half of the. david: yeah. >> that jack smith brought against donald trump. he used typically used a obstruction statute that has no implication. look at remaining alleged crime. fraud, wait a minute, that fraud statute deals with money and property. that has no application. then you're left with just one charge, violation of voting rights but wait a minute. you're allowed to challenge the electoral count in congress by law. democrats did it in three previous elections. in 2017 they tried to remove donald trump in favor of hillary clinton. somehow when democrats do it, that is perfectly okay. when donald trump does it, it's a crime.

that's nonsense. david: will, let me move you quickly, i'm getting a wrap but i have to talk about july 11 they, the sentencing date for donald trump by judge merchan in new york. you look what happened with the debate last week, you look at the politicalization of the courtroom under judge merchan with that particular case, i'm just wondering if one affects the other? do you think as the judge is getting ready to sentence donald trump, he may take the politics we saw inside of the courtroom during the trial to the sentencing as well and try to throw donald trump in jail before, four-days before the gop convention? >> yeah, i think judge merchan iser retrieveably conflicted here. he should have been recused off the case. i won't hazard to predict what he does at sentencing, whatever at sentencing we'll be vigorously challenging that judgment at appeal. we noted we raised claims of presidential immunity in the new york case. we believe some of the acts were

raised at trial, some evidence used there do relate to official acts. so the jury is still out to some respects. we'll be continuing to challenge the new york prosecution that could be a ground that could get the u.s. supreme court involved in overturning the jury verdict in that new york pros. david: gregg, very quickly to you, brother, the subject of whole politicalization of our legal system, whether or not that will affect the actual sentencing itself i can particularly because of their fears biden did so badly in the debate? >> well, it should but it won't. let me just say this, what the dissenters in today's decision don't seem to realize is this ruling protects joe biden and future democrat presidents from the same kind of lawfare that biden democrats deployed against donald trump. david: that's a good point. >> they just don't get it.

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and bring on the good stuff. david: house judiciary report revealing that former cia acting director michael morell and several others were actually under cia contract whether they claimed hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation. that itself was disinformation. joining us now is missouri senator eric schmitt, former missouri attorney general. great to see you, senator, thanks for being here. first of all i have to ask you about the supreme court decision today, what are your thoughts? >> i mean it's a victory for the constitution and the rule of law. it was, you know, i think most legal scholars agreed this is probably where the supreme court would land or should land making sure the president in a robust executive has this level of independence and immunity for official acts but you till see again this very radical view in justice sotomayor which may be her last sentence she writes as

a justice. we'll find out i suppose if she steps down or not, calling this is chilling for democracy. i tell you what is chilling, somebody like jack smith, everybody knows his mo, he is the guy they call out the of the bullpen when you want to go after a political opponent. that is what joe biden did here this is all about election interference. the supreme court called him on it. this is a very important decision long term. i think president obama ought to be thrilled about this ruling quite frankly because if you can go after former presidents this lawfare will never end and i think this was a big win not just for president trump but for our country today. david: well something else that is chilling not just what happened with these, you know the 51 former spooks coming out with disinformation right before the election in 2020, which might have affected the results of the election. now it turns out a couple of them were actually still on contract with the cia. that's at least what is being

suspected by a members of congress. your thoughts about that. eventually we'll talk about it, how we break up this political cabal inside of the intel agencies but first your thoughts on this? >> yeah. it is a chilling report. quite frankly another brick in the wall of a really terrifying episode of how folks at the highest levels of government tried to interfere and did interfere with the election in 2020. they were hell-bent making sure donald trump didn't get reelected. you saw this group of so-called intel leaders, 51 of them, sign on to this letter saying the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation, led by the way by antony blinken, who happens to be guess what, secretary of state. a lot on the line for him, a lot on the line for the country. they were willing to bulldoze our constitution, claim everything was russian disinformation. important to remember, david, in october of fbi, the fbi had that

laptop. they knew it was real. the fbi went to social media companies in 2020 said this was russian hacking leak operation. the cia we find out was doing the same thing including the members of senate and congress being warned too. they were willing to go to great lengths to dispel any notion the laptop was real. of course now we know it was real and it influenced the election. to what degree we'll never know. the point is, this is really scary, folks like this with this kind of power were willing to lie to affect the election. it is all coming out now. by the way if you didn't have the missouri versus biden lawsuit, missouri versus twitter hearings, investigative, all this stuff would still be in the dark. david: it is incredible. this happened under president trump's watch. president trump was the president when all this, it leads to questions about how you depoliticize this cabal that could be working against a sitting president. john ratcliffe, former dni, the

former director of national intel was on with maria yesterday. i want to play a cliff of ratcliff and get your reaction. roll tape. >> the two biggest election interference campaigns in our country took place in 2016 and 2020 to stop donald trump and it wasn't by china. it wasn't by russia. it wasn't by iran. it was by political actors on the left within our own institutions like the cia, within the intelligence community, within the f-bi, within the department of justice and i can discuss tell you, that is mission number one for donald trump when he takes office in january of 2025. larry: so, senator, how does donald trump go about cleaning up this mess if he is elected president? >> i think he has to, one of the reasons why i'm really excited, why i was one of the first endorsers for president trump in this cycle i think he will fundamentally dismantle the administrative state. to your point on that clip, in

2016, they were willing to spy on an american, the major political candidate of the republican party, they were willing to do that to stop him n 2020 we just talked about this hunter biden laptop, they're willingness to lie about that, say it was russian hacking leak. now look, there is nothing they won't do. they are literally trying to throw their critical opponent in jail for the rest of his life to prevent him from being president again. there is a reckoning coming. we have to clean house. you have got to make sure these bureaucrats under the role that they're supposed to play in our system. we believe we're a constitutional republic. we send people there we can send them home or we can send them back. this permanent washington, believing they are the guardians of our democracy are ridiculous. the people are sovereign in this country. they are the ones who determine who is making decisions on their behalf. in this idea that you had this cadre, this cabal of bureaucrats that know better than everybody

else, that is what ultimately needs to get disrupted. the tables need to be flipped over to get back to who we are again which is we the people get to decide these important matters, not these folks that most people will never know their names but they play an outsized role in peoples lives. i think you saw some of that with the chevron being overturned. that is a big part of it. david: yeah. >> i think what president trump will do when he comes in. we're getting back to a place hopefully to turn the corner, to put the people back in charge, as opposed to permanent washington and these bureaucrats. david: thanks to you and a lot of others who pulled back the curtain to show us what was really going on. first you you have to shine a 19 light on it before you clean it up. the roaches are scattering. shining the light is important. >> david, can i make one point quickly? the veil has been lifting. you saw the folks lying about joe biden's health have been exposed. the same people lied about that, lied about the laptop, they lied

about covid, they lied about these political prosecutions. now is the time americans have a chance to really weigh in in november. david: senator eric schmitt, have a wonderful july 4th, thank you for being here. appreciate it. >> you too. david: coming up the reagan tax cuts gave the u.s. economy a booming shot in the arm. the same thing can happen again if we make the trump tax cuts permanent. we'll talk about it with former reagan economist art laffer when "kudlow" continues. ♪. (♪) whether you're moving across town or across the country, you can count on pods to deliver when we say we will. which is why we were voted america's #1 container moving company. book your move today at pods.com

♪. david: well the biden administration keeps touting the economy but poll after poll after poll show that "bidenomics" is failing americans. our own edward lawrence is standing by with more on this. hey, edward. >> reporter: david, yeah, the president desperate to move on from the debate and he wants to highlight the good aspects of the economy, his administration, his cabinet members have been out talking about the good aspect of it like the unemployment rate at 4% but they have brushed over the fact that

prices are up under president biden, significantly up. in fact up 19% for overall prices. grocery prices up about 21%. now that matters because the treasury secretary tout as booming economy. she has been accused though of being out of touch because of this. >> secretary yellen have you been to the grocery store lately. >> i have been. i go every week. >> it is sticker shock, isn't it? >> no. >> when you look at shipping costs -- >> reporter: treasury secretary no says to sticker shot. democratic supporters defending biden policies and clarified secretary's comment. >> let me finish janet yellen's comments i wish she would have finished. i would have said by janet yellen, wages are up 16 1/2%. prices are up 19%. too high. >> reporter: republicans and supporters of president trump. you have to look at the middle class. they're struggling to pay for

the lifestyle. from top to bottom the president biden has made poor economic decisions. >> i can't tell you what happened in the 19th. there is no one in the last 50 years comes close to joe biden ruining the finances of this country. >> reporter: the cbo estimates the debt held by the public in 10 years will be more than $50 trillion. david? david: edward, thank you very much for that. joining me famed economist art laffer, key economic advisors to presidents reagan and trump. winner of presidential medal of freedom, author most recently of taxes have consequence. income tax history of the united states. art, wonderful to see you. let's start with taxes. >> thank you, sir. david: which is your forte what president biden says about taxes. he says he doesn't lie. frankly he said a lot of untruths. start with the tax untruth. roll tape, we'll get art's reaction. >> he had the largest national

debt of any president in four year period, number one. number two, that two trillion dollar tax cut benefited the very wealthy. what i will do is fix the tax system i should say in a 10-year period. be able to wipe out his debt. be able to help, make sure all those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure we continue to strengthen our health care system. making sure we're able to make every single, solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do with the, with the covid, excuse me with dealing with, everything we have to do with, look, if, we finally beat medicare. david: ouch. that hurts, art. but i want to stick with the main thing he was talking about on taxes. he keeps saying that the tax, the new tax plan of donald trump implemented in 2016 cost two trillion dollars. i don't see that. you look at that, the tax

revenue since that, that new tax regime was in place. we have gained 47% more tax revenue than we had before. how does that cost anything? >> it doesn't, david. let me just say if i can, i'm three years older than joe biden is and i would really like to correct him on this issue because it's really important. the tax cuts under donald trump paid for themselves. david: that's right. >> total federal tax revenues in the two year period were up from the prior two year period. in fact not only were they up over the prior two year period, but they were up by a larger amount than the prior two year period had been to the two-year period before that. the tax cuts paid for themselves clearly. the unemployment rates, the economic growth u.s. and europe were moving right together. once the tax cut took enext in december of 2017 the two separated. so after two years u.s. gdp was 2 1/2% higher than it would have

been had it grown at the european union rate. david: yeah. >> so all these things, those are the facts and i hate to say it but i'm not interested in their opinions, i'm interested in facts, not how they feel. david: right. >> i know they really wish it hadn't worked but it did work. let's go to the next stage -- david: it worked for everybody. >> of course it did. of course it did. david: the other lie we keep hearing it was just for the very wealthy. i will put up a 2019 "new york times" headline that says, face it, you probably got a tax cut and it's referring to a study done by a liberal organization that showed 65% of taxpayers got a tax cut. that is not just the very wealthy. >> yes they did. no. it's not. and you know, when you look at it, david, if i can, going forward, i mean reagan did the tax cut, the '86 tax act. we did the beginning one in '81. the growth from january 1st 1983 to june 30th 19, 1984

was 12% real growth. that is 8% per annum compound rate. that is chinese growth rate numbers. that is how it works. i hope donald trump, donald trump should do a 18 month payroll tax cut of 50%, both employer, employee, for 18 month period and suspension of capital purchasing for 18 months to jump-start the economy. get people off the sidelines, back on job. that tax cut too would pay for itself in the 10-year calculations they do but it would also increase output and employment and production. he need as fast start because frankly you know doesn't another term to go after this. we need to jump-start the economy and really do it. i think donald trump will not only be the best first term president from the standpoint of economics ever but i think he could easily be the best second term president in economics ever. keep on going with pro-growth

democratic capitalists tax cuts, spending cuts, deregulation. i mean sound money and he will get it all the way home and that is his revenge. david: art laffer, great stuff, my friend. thank you very much. wonderful to have you here. have a great july 4th. >> thank you, david. david: appreciate it. well new polls showing voters moving further and further away from president biden after last week's disasterous debate performance. joining me now is mark simone, wor radio show host. alec lace, host of the "alec lace show." we'll get to the polls for a second but i first got to talk about the lies. with art we wrack at thatting about the economic lies and he keeps saying now the difference between him and trump is that he doesn't lie and trump does. the worst lie for me was the one he made about no service people dying under his watch as president. i just want to roll that particular lie because it is to egregious. roll it. president biden: the truth is

i'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, that doesn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did. larry: none in the world, alec. of course there was the afghanistan debacle where 13 service people were blown up. two seals were killed in yemen. three service people were killed in jordan. i mean, how could he forget these things? those aren't forgettable things. those are just lies. >> we remember the iconic image of him staring at his watch. maybe he was too busy checking the time to remember -- next month i swim across the hudson river with the navy seals as they do their annual swim across the hudson river, i tell you these guys have not forgot you're lost servicemembers under president joe biden. he is a disgrace not only the way he handled that afghan debacle but the way he dishonored those servicemen. david: a lot of dems were trying to spin it, amazed me over the weekend. they didn't get very far because

cbs came out with the overall. 56% said trump won. only 16% said biden was winner of debates. i would like to talk to some of those 16%. there is the overall numbers. you break it down in various categories of character, presented ideas clearly, biden did 21%, trump 47%. trump is the winner in all of these various categories. how does biden pull out of this? >> as he would say, look, we beat medicare. [laughter] larry: he's the non sequitur spokesperson of the year. >> my hero clyburn the senator, who said afterwards i saw nothing wrong. he was great. i have a list of all the lies. the big runs, little ones, trump said hitler did good things. trump never said it. never happened. kids in cages. thing pictures were from the

biden-obama administration. there are million of these things. david: people like charlie wrangle, state man, congressman here in new york, for many decades, 94, elder statesman from the party came he did a terrible job. something has to change. jen psaki put her x post up, a lot of democrat are the trying to blame the preppers, saying it was all the preppers. no, no, this was biden's problem. i can't see how he can get out of this. >> no way out of this. we're all dancing around this. the guy clearly is not fit to be president. david: right. >> even, when they spin it they say he is only good from 10:00 to 4:00. if there is an attack at 4:30 what are we supposed to do? listen, we've all seen a relative or somebody in the family that has this. it never gets better. it gets progressively worse. david: that's right. >> imagine him in two years. david: mark was mentioning, alec, piece from "axios" which said he is dependably engaged only from 10:00 a.m. to

4:00 p.m. this is supposed to be the toughest job in the world. it is not a six hour a day job. >> let's not forget not only political pundits saw the debate but our enemies, enemies of this country saw the debate, so our allies this is the guy? i want a guy even if convicted felon can operate more than 6 hours a day. biden can only do this six hours a day. like a exotic animal at the bronx zoo. you have to see them on time to see them active. shame on jill biden and biden family allowing this to continue this is horrible what we're seeing from her. david: charlie wring gell, another moderate democrat, a few left, his name is don peebles, he is heavily involved in politics. a lot of people want him to run for mayor of new york. he might have run. he was on our network saturday. i want to play a sound bite from that. roll tape. >> my phone was ringing after the debate the other night. many black entrepreneurs are saying hey they're done. that this is embarrassing.

that it's unwinnable. his job was to make a case for a second term. >> he couldn't do it. he couldn't do it. >> right. david: democratic base, he is totally lost the democratic base another thing with peebles, he represents the don't nor class, when you loose them you lost everything. even that, biden talked about tax cuts at end, closing statement, tax increases. mondale did that you wend with a positive note. david: that's right, that's right. >> everything with biden is the past. talk about the future. no goals, no future, no anything. david: what happens? how do democrats deal with all of this? what is their plan. >> they can't use the cheap fake theory anymore. that went out the window. david: that's gone. that's gone. >> they will have to pull him out. he is not electable. david: who will run, who will they put in. >> the vegas odds gavin newsom or michelle obama are top picks. i don't think they want to go on

that short notice against donald trump. i think democratic party lost all the way to november. david: the editor of "the wall street journal" david, you have to think low. this was during the clinton administration he would say that. a lot of people saying what is going on. how low do you think democrats will go in order to try to pull this off. >> state of the union he was screaming and quilting. next day with rally, filled with energy. what happened at night, what they usually give him, not give him that. that is one conspiracy theory. maybe they didn't give him the normal stuff. david: he wasn't jacked up enough. >> he was half asleep. david: somebody behind the scenes wants him out? >> as you said you got to think low to understand this. >> maybe they hit him with a placebo on debate night instead of giving him the juice. david: we'll see what happens. thank you very much, gentlemen. you have the july 4th tie on alec, appreciate it. coming up france's right-wing party gained momentum in the first round of elections over the weekend. we'll talk about it with steve

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the french government. fox news's greg palkot is live in london with the details. greg? report report that's right, david. a right-wing party in france scoring a big win over the weekend. the populist national rally led by the outspoken marine le pen come oning in first with 33% of the vote in a high turnout. their nationalist line hitting strong on immigration, crime, cost of living, globalism, resonating with the french electorate. second, 28% of left-wing approach, taxing, range true. emannuel macron coming in third with only 20% of the vote. he called the snap election after the national rally did well in a eu vote last month. while he has another three years in office this political gamble might cost him control of the parliament. demonstrators took to the streets of paris overnight protesting the possibility of national rally coming to power

first time ever, what they call the party's divisive and polarizing appeal. runoff elections are set for next sunday. many in france willing to take a risk on something new dealing with long-held problems. david. david: greg palkot in europe, thank you very much for that. for more, let's bring in steve hilton, a fox news contributor and he knows the region very well, is willing to talk about it with us. i have to quote something in the "new york post." i was kind of shocked to see it in our brother publication the "new york post" but here's the first line of their reporting on what happened in france. quote, a right-wing party could seize power in france for the first time since the nazis occupied the defeated country in world war ii. the implication that marine le pen is a nazi, which is not the truth, is it? >> it is an outrageous way to frame it. we can object even to a milder version of it which you hear

right across the media today which is the description of this party is far right. i mean, look, that may have been true in the past when her father founded the party but she has gone to some considerable lengths to change that. the label populist that greg palkot just used perfectly reasonable. that is the essence of her appeal and her party's appeal. in fact in some ways look at the platform, the policy platform of her party and say it is pretty much to the left, certainly on some economic questions. i don't agree with the way marine le pen sees greater role for the state in the french economy. david: yeah. >> in that sense you can say it is a populist party to the left. to compare it to the nazis is really outrageous. david: the bottom line, people are fed up with policies that aren't working. it is very similar to what's happening right here. >> exactly. david: it is happening not just

in france but it is happening all over europe where the policies on immigration for example. the same problems that we're having, the massive increase in crime because of a lot of people that come in totally unvetted with certain exceptions like hungary and poland which put up barriers. those countries that haven't, spawned by politicians with left-wing agendas are having terrible trouble and people don't like it. the economies are not working well. you mentioned economic policies. i hope le pen doesn't govern from the left if she become as leader there, because it is the leftist policies that are causing problems with the economy but they are having the same problems we're having and the voters are revolting about it, aren't they? >> yes. and a particular category of voter if you like because what you're seeing across europe, you're seeing here particularly in california where i am you can see, you can see the imposition of what you might describe as luxury beliefs, the elite,

perfectly happy to push and rich can live with, for example, not just on open borders, immigration in particular on the climate extremism you see here you see in europe, particularly in germany. that has been a big factor of the rise of populist parties there, also the uk. working-class people, they are being hammered the most by these policies and they're the ones in particular are rising up against them. david: right. now the uk got away -- they have their on set of problems, we'll talk about it if we have time but the rest of europe is still stuck with all of these unelected bureaucrats that think they're in control of things from strasbourg and from brussels where the european parliament hangs out. >> yes. david: again, yes the parliament itself is elected but it is all these bureaucrats who are running lives. it is what we call the deep state here in america. they have it over there in the european parliament and the people are fed up with it, aren't they?

>> 100% and just to remind our viewers, you know i worked back in the day at 10 downing street for the elected government of prime minister david cameron. that was when britain was in the ue. yes, you have these branches european government if you like. you have the european parliament directly elected. you have the european council which is all the representatives of elected governments of all member-states but crucially you have the european commission. that is the bureaucracy. guess who has the power in that setup to initiate policy? david: that's right. >> yes it is the bureaucrats, it is the commission. that is why you're seeing the impolls of all the bureaucracy across the european union. david: they're all corrupt, they're all corrupt. i went over there they're tear bring corrupt. they're corrupt, they're socialist the. they're making a mess of the situation. unfortunately we've run out of time. >> 100%. david: steve hilton, fascinating to cover. i say that. it is good for journalism. i appreciate you being here. more "kudlow" right after this.

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