liz: down about 4% this week alone. i've been watching salesforce, they have been pounding the table, look we're offering all this a.i. i think investors are waiting to see more steak not just the sizzle with a.i. monetizaton. vance, good to see you. >> thank you so much, liz. liz: vance howard. the s&p and nasdaq record winning streaks are over. a bit of a selloff here for those two indices but you will read headlines for the russell, a big gain here up 74 points for the russell, 3 1/2%? [closing bell ringing] that is the closing bell. tomorrow billionaire entrepreneur frank mccourt, jr., wants to make a play for tiktok. he is here tomorrow. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. more and more democrats are saying joe's got to go but it is going to be the same old big

government socialist policies no matter who the candidate is. vivek ramaswamy is going to be all over that in just a couple minutes but first up our own edward lawrence has the details ahead of joe biden's big, what is it, big boy press conference tonight? is that what they're saying edward? going big boy or big boy pants or something? i don't know, you tell me. >> reporter: [laughter]. call it the big boy press conference. larry: big boy. >> reporter: 2 1/2 hours, larry. a lot of eyes willing watching this news conference. even though it is not an official event in the nato summit. the president of finland even this debate, talking about the president's ability to lead has gotten in the way of what the nato summit is all about. listen to this. >> the only thing i'm worried about the political climate in the united states right now is too toxic. it is very polarized and that sort of doesn't leave i think enough room for a civilized and

constructive debate about different types of policy choices. >> reporter: he adds he has no concerns about president biden but biden's senior advisors pitching lawmakers today, talking with senate democrats. the president had the first democratic senator say he needs to step aside as more house democrats make the same. this as fox news is reporting that large donors decided not to support president biden anymore. george clooney at the top of that list. republicans watching what they believe is a slow-moving train wreck. >> listen, they have all known for six months, for a year, for longer, that biden's mental capacity was severely diminished. that he was not up to doing the job. they're not worried about having a commander-in-chief who is not capable of fulfilling the responsibilities. the only reason they're panicking they now realize the american people have seen that. they're terrified he will lose in november. >> reporter: so in a memo

obtained by fox business president biden's campaign telling democrats that the best way to help donald trump is to make a change at the top of the ticket at this late date. they admit the debate was a setback but the party must unify. so this news conference, the big boy news conference, larry, could be make-or-break for the president's campaign or for the rest of his presidency, back to you. larry: besides the big boyness of this big boy news conference they're probably planting questions. god knows what will happen. can you explain, this was, head of finland commenting on our political situation? i mean what was -- is he, is he like the george will or the somebody, is of our time? is he the new, is he looking for a job at "the washington post," where did that come from, commenting on america's political toxic situation, from finland no less? >> reporter: right but this is what is happening every world

leader comes in front of a microphone is being asked about president biden, about his ability to lead and about the situation, political situation in the united states. those three are happening pretty much to every world leader who comes in and that was the answer from the president of finland. larry: i have a somewhat different answer. edward lawrence thank you very much. i will give you an answer. it will be the same hole big government socialist policies no matter who is at the top of the democratic ticket. no need for finland, that is the subject of the prief ♪ whether joe biden or kamala harris runs as the head of the ticket it will not matter. that person will still have to defend the many failures of biden administration big government socialist policies. the modern democratic party today is a far left party driven by senator bernie sanders or senator elizabeth warren or congresswoman aoc and her "squad." by the way as newt gingrich reminds me when vice president

kamala harris was senator kamala harris she cosponsored a socialized medicine bill with senator bernie sanders, and that bill was priced out to be, wait for it, $32 trillion. need to know anymore, finland or who else? today ms. harris was down in north carolina bragging about student loan cancellations. the problem is the supreme court ruled the president doesn't have the authority to cancel student loans but he is going to do it anyway because he doesn't care about the supreme court. a little while ago mr. biden gave a short speech attacking the supreme court after it ruled that former president trump had immunity when undertaking official duties. this is the same democratic party that says it is defending democracy, only they don't defend democracy. no matter who runs at the top of the democratic ticket, they're still stuck with the affordability crisis and the fact that middle class kitchen tables have been shrinking for

3 1/2 years as prices have risen faster than wages for working folks. they still have to defend the catastrophic open border policies of at least 10 million illegal immigrants and crime wave that has gone along with it as declining public safety has become a national issue linked to illegals. no matter who is at the top of the democratic ticket they will still have to defend the unpopularity of left-wing woke cultural issues, which have violated traditional family values throughout the middle class. this includes de i-man dates which themselves are the progenitors of a vicious wave of antisemitism which finds its center of gravity in the democratic party. whoever the democratic nominee that person will have to defend the burden of hugely unpopular electric vehicle mandates which would send auto worker jobs to china and whole green new deal

wave which is jacked up electricity prices as it sends out trillions and trillions of spending, budget deficits and federal borrowing and whoever runs at the head of the democratic ticket will have to defend the collapse of afghanistan or russia's putin thumbing his nose at biden in the ukraine or iran's thumbing its nose at biden as its terrorist proxies attack israel. whoever runs at the head of the democratic party have to explain how it is possible they did not enforce any of the energy sanctions on iran or russia so that china can finance two wars against the u.s. by importing oil from russia and iran. all this is the biden democratic party legacy of failure. no matter who run ares at the top of that ticket, they will have to shoulder that enormous burden of fail you're, and that is my riff. all right, let's talk.

we have the great vivek ramaswamy who is a former candidate for president, is a trump surrogate and all around smart fellow. vivek, you know that is kind of like, i don't know, i'm just brushing, i mean i'm enjoy being this, whatever it is, docu-drama, hollywood goes, i don't know what it is but the fact of the matter it is not going to matter. there's a record they will still have to defend, by the way, whether it is biden or harris or newsom or gruesome or who else is going to do it, i don't care, what do you think, vivek. am i missing something mere? >> the only thing i would add, larry is this. complacency is not an option for our side. i think a lot of people on our side are celebrating this thing is over. i think this thing has not even begun terms of it the election season. the reality biden is done. i believe they're negotiating his golden parachute. i mean that metaphorically if not literally. the reality is in public

theatrics. they want this swap-out to take place as late as possible. if it is out the dnc convention in late august. put up new candidate. honeymoon phase with the public. somebody captured, tortured and liberated to they will love them. they want the honeymoon around in november. the republicans are doing great because they're the right ideas for americans? yes. has donald trump already been a great american for americans? yes. complacency is not an option. i remind you there was supposed to be a red wave in 2022 because of the same failed biden policies. we didn't get it. we ought to be cautionary this time around that we're playing to win, focusing on our own message, rather than ridiculing the other side. larry: i agree but you know, the record has actually gotten worse in the last two years but i agree. i think suzie wiles and chris have done a very good job.

we'll talk more about the nuts and bolts later in the show but my.nothing is, they're still big government socialists. that is all they are. now there has to be a response to that but i think the trump platform, let me ask you about the trump -- i think the trump platform that was published at the beginning of the week is terrific and national message. it is growthiest statement from any president since ronald reagan how worked many, many years ago. it defends the dollar, school choice, states, states will take care of abortions with certain exclusions on abortions. i mean i think it is a terrific platform. it is pro-growth and anti-inflation, cutting spending. this is something that the republicans did not have, a real national message back in 2022. >> i think this allowed the republican party and

donald trump to be the leadership that actually unites this country. i think about that, larry, joe biden ran on a message of national unity. he has failed miserably or we wouldn't be where we are right now. economic growth, that is unifying. success is unifying. excellence is unifying. that is who we are as americans. counterintuitive to many media narratives i think donald trump will actually be the president who unites this country, not through flowery language but through his actions. many americans are hungry for black and white, democrat and republican. people are dead-set against the wave of crime inflicking our sits across this country. i think we have historic opportunity not just to win this election, western it by a landslide the kind reagan did. dare i say it, larry unite this country in the process which many of us are quietly hungry for. i think donald trump will be the guy who has the first chance in a very long time. i think he will do it, to

actually reunite one united states of america through action. larry: vivek, before i lose you, let me ask you one thing this weird thing, you have this, it is called the save bill and it simply suggests that in order to vote in this country you have to have proof of citizenship. when you got 10 million new illegal immigrants coming across, seems to me that is very sensible. even if you didn't have 10 million it would still be very sensible. the democrats are manaially against this. biden said he will veto. this is the party that said they would protect democracy, mind you. student loan guaranties, student loan cancellations supreme court says no, they're for it anyway. kamala harris was touting that today in north carolina. they don't care about that. they don't even want to have open convention. the democrats in fact don't want to have a convention. they will have a virtual convention in chicago which i think is tripoli pathetic why are they so manai actually

afraid you have to have proof of citizen ship? >> i think this is a little can't bill because is smokes out a lot of motives in the democratic party, larry. larry: yeah. >> here is the reality, why democrats turned a blind eye on illegal immigration for so long, this is a long run strategy as they see it to win elections over the long run. import voters. that is democratic party immigration policy years ago they called it a conspiracy theory. democrats are quietly saying it for a long time. this first bill introduced, most americans expect reasonable, to vote in this country you have to be citizens, you see overwhelmingly majority of democrats, except a few, i give credit for defecting from the party, apart from the fringe few that came our way, democratic party standing against anything that erodes their chance to remain in power. i thought it was brilliant move

to put it up. most americans are on our side for the rule of law. larry: vivek, will you being in milwaukee? coming to the convention. >> i will see you there. larry: you come visit us for sure. we'll be broadcasting inside the convention hall. my great friend, vivek ramaswamy, thank you ever so much. all righty, turning to another great friend, another important story, the june inflation report, came in light, no doubt about it. joining me now who is not light, david asman fox business anchor extraordinaire. all right, good number. june cpi fell a 10th of a percent. ex food and energy it was up a 10th. the last 12 month, the cpi is over 3.0%. that is over the fed's 2% target. core cpi, ex-food and energy is up 3.3%. i might add jay powell supposedly his favorite measure which is the cpi core services ex-rents, that thing is up 4.6%.

now, david asman, i want your wisdom, the futures market is saying the fed is going to cut-rates in september, future maybe on. the futures market said they will cut rates as soon as the i started broadcasting as fox. >> you wisely counseled -- larry: since i started at fox 3 1/2 years ago. the futures market is always wrong. we believe in free marketing should the fed start cutting rates? >> no, i don't think it should. the question whether there will be political pressure put on powell to do that. however, the point is inflation, it is good that inflation came down but it came down for the wrong reason. it is not because there are more goods in society, because we have a supply side problem. we have too many regulations. we have tax increases on the horizon if democrats are elected. no matter what democrat is elected you know they will not reintroduce the trump tax bill. they will raise taxes.

they will not keep them the same or lower them. so the reason it is coming down is because the economy is slowing. in fact it might be slowing. we know the gdp is down. the last quarter of last year is 3.2%. it is now down to 1.4%. so gdp is going down. companies want to get rid of their inventory, so they're lowering prices in order to clear out the inventory. people are strapped. they can't afford to buy anymore. they have used up all the covid funds et cetera. so it is going down for the wrong -- we need a boost to this economy right now. we're not going to get it with tax increases. we'll get it with tax deductions. lower tax rates, lower regulations. larry: trump's platform, one of the themes of this show all week, it is the growthiest platform, certainly since ronald reagan. >> i will keep a copy with me now wherever i go. it is good stuff, it is good stuff. they're lowering regulations, they're lowering tax rates. drill, baby, drill. increasing gas and oil production. larry: we're going to need it.

we're going to need it. supply side stimulus, not demand side stimulus. that is lacking right now. look, i'm glad prices are easing down. i think it is premature for the fed to start easing their policies but reality is, the level of prices is up 20% since mr. biden took office. when you get into specifics like food and groceries and electricity and energy, it is up 30, 40, as much as 50%. >> by the way gold was up 42 bucks today. i think gold traders are thinking maybe there will be a september rate cut by powell. larry: in september i predict, someone, will be the nominee of the democratic party. that is -- >> you may be wrong by the way the way things are going. who knows. larry: i say that with certainty, david asman, best of the best from fox business. coming up here on "kudlow," can president trump's growthier platform flip the battleground state of virginia? we'll ask virginia governor glenn youngkin when "kudlow"

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larry: donald trump's growthier platform, i spoke to glenn youngkin. welcome back, sir. >> larry, great to be with you as always, get a chance to talk business is exciting to me. of course virginia today was ranked the top state for business in america. it is such a statement of affirmation for all the hard work we've done, that resulted in $74 billion of capital commitments of companies coming to virginia already here. 240,000 more people working. common sense works. great to see it working in virginia. larry: i don't know how you beat out new york, high taxes, regulations. new york hates business. you must have beat them out by a whisker. i know virginia is the number one ranked state. you have done it before. let me talk about the republican

convention coming up in milwaukee if i may, and the platform, i'm sure you read it. it is a very growthy platform, low taxes, regulations, drill, baby, drill. are you oak with this platform, governor youngkin? >> i am, larry. it is common sense. i think it is time that our nation reintroduces itself to common sense. i also think it is time our nation reintroduces itself to strength. what we've seen from the biden-harris administration is weakness, weakness in foreign policy that resulted in chaos around the world. weakness in the economy unleashed inflation like we've never seen and of course weakness after the border that has allowed chaos to drive every state to become a border state. in virginia we have five virginians who die every day from fentanyl poisoning. we've seen two illegal immigrants try to crash into quantico with a box truck. this is nuts. i think it is time for strength and common sense.

that's what the platform stands for. larry: are you good with the universal school choice and let states determine abortion along with exclusions for the life of the mother, rape and incest, are you okay with those? >> yeah, i am. i fundamentally believe that choice for parents in schools is critical. we have been working in virginia to provide multiple pathways for virginia kids. listen, not every child is going to go to college. some of them want to get an industry recognized credential, and go straight to work. that's what we've done in virginia. that is one of the reasons why we were ranked number one in education and why our workforce is always rated as top in the nation. because we can get people to go to work. i think the platform is comprehensive. as i said earlier, common sense prevails here. it is great to have common steps headed back to the white house and lead the united states of america. larry: is virginia in play,

governor? >> i think it is. listen, joe biden won virginia by 10 point four years ago and i was able to win by two, just a year later. and i believe that president trump's leadership and strength is why virginia is in play. it is in all the polls suggest that the state is tied, if not president trump having a slight lead. we've got a tough four months of campaigning ahead of us. i look forward to campaigning with president trump and working to deliver virginia. and listen, if virginia elects president trump and our electoral votes in his category i think it could of course a landslide across the country. larry: it is interesting. so many states are in play now, all of sudden it is unbelievable. so, who are you going to run against? do you think joe biden is going to survive this hollywood, washington, obama, pelosi, schumer, i mean, i'm not a democrat.

i don't pretend to understand the party. what do you think is going to happen with him? >> well, let me just begin, larry, with the fact for 3 1/2 years the biden-harris administration has failed america and, so no matter who they get they're going to be, they're going to be tarred and feathered with that track record. let's be serious, progressive liberal policies don't work. come nonsense does and we have seen the weakness, failure from the biden-harris administration play out on every single important front in the country. and so, i don't know who they are going to get. if it is joe biden that's great because i do think at the end of the day that he represent the progressive left's policies. he represents the weakness and failure of those policies. and as i said america is ready for strength. we're ready for a strong economy. we're ready for us to have high growth and low inflation.

not low growth and high inflation. we're looking for energy strength and energy dominance, an all-american, all of the above energy policy that embraces the god-given resources in this great america and stops driving america into the vise grip that the chinese communist party has on the green economy. just yesterday, larry, we were able to announce in virginia the next step in potentially citing a small modular reactor in virginia. i challenged our state to lead here. we're doing exactly that. a strong energy policy that recognizes all the resources that we have here is critical. it is time for strength, larry, not for weakness. i think that is what president trump will bring to the white house. larry: i noticed the editorial page of "the wall street journal" is touting you for vice president. i noticed in the "new york post" also. have you spoken to president trump about a vice

presidentialal position? >> the reality is, larry, whoever they choose will be a great vice president, partner for the president and so much better than anybody but particularly kamala harris and my relationship with the president is really great. we had a super meeting couple weeks ago but we spent the whole meeting talking about how to win, particularly how to win virginia. i think that is the most important thing on the horizon which is to win and when i endorsed him i told him i would enthusiastically support what he is doing and to do it in virginia particularly. as i said earlier, virginia is in play. that's a huge statement about the mindsets not only of virginia voters but american voters, that they are ready for strength. they are ready for leadership, and they're tired of the weakness and failures that have come out of the biden-harris administration. larry: if he offered it to you you would take it, sir? >> again, larry, this is not something we had deep discussions around and i do believe there is huge talent in

the republican party and there will be a great vice presidential candidate and whoever it is, will be a great partner for who will be a great president, donald j. trump as our 47th president of the united states. larry: well, congratulations on being number one state in business and thank you for coming bark back on the show, governor youngkin. we appreciate it very much. good luck on the campaign trail. >> thank you, larry for everything. thank you for always bringing common sense back into the business arena. we need it. larry: oh, that was very kind of him to say that right there at the end and i appreciate it. anyway he is a very smart fellow. coming up here on "kudlow," the question is how is mr. trump going to win over swing voters including minority voters? he has a whole common sense but he is also got a very interesting electoral strategy and we're going to talk about it with kellyanne conway, and katie pavlich, and ben domenech. remember "kudlow" available as podcast episodes available every

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♪. larry: so very interesting article just out in "the atlantic" magazine interviews with trump campaign manager suzie wile and chris lazeveda, how mr. trump plans to win key swing states, if i get this right, low propensity trump supporters. wow, sounds like i'm a campaign operative which i'm certainly not. joining us to talk about this, kellyanne conway, former counselor to president trump, fox news contributor. >> host of, here's the deal on are "fox nation." katie pavlich, townhall.com editor. ben domenech, editor-at-large at

the spectator. also a fox news contributor. ben after all this while i think i got your name right, domenech, i'm very proud of myself. i want to begin with my pal kellyanne. kellyanne, an interesting article, a shot was taken at some think tanks, that was just one paragraph, but, but, but, i want to ask you about this, mr. la is a vida, miss suzie wiles, running trump's campaign. looking for low propensity trump supporters at one point. they're looking for non-white voters, specifically black and hispanic men between the ages of 18 and 34. kellyanne, what do you think about that? i'm not giving any trade secrets away because out there in the magazine. i thought we could spend a moment and talk about it. let me repeat. low propensity trump supporters and they're looking for

non-white voters in general but specifically black and hispanic men between the ages of 18 and 34 and doing several things that would make sense in that basis. what do you make of that, kellyanne? what can you tell us? >> it is a smart, strategic move by the trump campaign and its cocampaign managers, larry. it is a piece of entire expansion of donald trump's reach into core democratic constituencies like african-americans, like hispanic-americans, young voters, more union households, gay and lesbian households frankly and a lot of young people. if you look at the pew results in the "usa today" polls even today, show approval rating for donald trump among the groups i mentioned has gone up and disapproval for joe biden has gone up. disapproval for your opponent does not convert into votes for you. that is important here. this is a very important time for trump to bury biden on

policy. to convert those would-be trump voters who have either been non-voters or reticent to vote at all, reticent to vote for trump, been biden and obama voters they're upset with biden. watching democratic party cannibalize itself. i haven't heard the word abortion for two weeks since the debate. they have only talking about joe biden. talking about his electoral impact, not his medical necessities shame on them. trump to take on policy to win those voters. they will be more prosperous, the country will have strong boarders, stronger military, stop crime. it is a smart strategy. in addition i can reach into suburban men and women. he has young people giving him a second look. they're not against joe biden because he is old. they're against him because he wants to be on tiktok, flavored vapes and menthol cigarettes and

his policies stink for young people. larry: menthol cigarettes. katie, if you're going after black and hispanic young men, they would be very worried about getting a job. they would be very worried about real wages but trump goes to ufc fights which is very popular amongst that group. he puts out gold sneakers, i don't know if they have the money to afford gold sneakers but they love their sneakers, okay? how about, they like cryptocurrencies, katie, which trump has come out foursquare, in fact he is going to the cryptocurrency convention and they're taking campaign contributions. and that crowd doesn't, i don't think that crowd is a big fan of woke either. again i repeat, black and hispanic men between the ages of 18 and 34. what do you make of it, katie? >> well i would say that the president, and i do love a good sneaker by the way, can't go wrong with those, the president is not doing this by pandering

like you've seen from kamala harris or joe biden. he is doing it by presenting this platform and themes for the rnc convention next week that apply to everybody. every group of people, tired of seeing their earnings being eaten away by inflation. people are scared what is happening in their community with illegal immigration and crime. they're very worried about what has been happening on the world stage. they're very concerned that joe biden will walk us right into world war iii, especially after, our adversaries and enemies saw him emperor has no clothes style during the debate at the end of june. so the platform they put out is actually very straightforward. it is not abrasive. it is really not that political. the biggest theme of all we want to get back to common sense. everybody agrees on those issues in terms of keeping men out of women's sports for example. for people who have children or daughters in school. the economy being the number one thing. so it is very straightforward, moderate platform and i think a lot of people are interested seeing what he has to say next week.

liz: -- larry: it is pretty smart. will be very interesting next week. ben domenech, trump's disciplined campaign strategy is driving the left nuts. you wrote that. i picked right up on it. i said we got to get ben back on the show. driving him nuts because of his discipline. how about that, ben? >> well, i think there are a couple things going on there, larry. one of the things i've heard from republican voters over the past several years has been some version of you know i think donald trump is great. i support him. i just wish sometimes he would be more focused get out of his way on certain things, not be distracted by shiny objects offered up on the left. i think what we've seen over the last for "fortnite" i find very impressive. i was on with brian kilmeade after trump did his radio interview. one of the things he commented

on, so many people told him in perhaps the 2020 debate with joe biden he should have been less aggressive, let joe talk. what he has been doing over the last two weeks has been letting joe talk. the degree which he has talked, he has disappointed so many voters across the country. i will make one other point. i rarely invoke dell. ei level things but i am the hispanic man on this panel. so i will just say that i think one of the big things he has done, joe biden has had the complete wrong priorities for hispanic and black men across america. he does not care about the things that they care about. he cares about a host of things that are radical leftist agenda things that aoc and kamala harris and all these other progressives care about. he has done it in a very deliberate way. that's why he boxes a question about abortion that everyone else in his party thinks he should have been able to handle as a softball. because he doesn't really

authentically have any connection to that radical agenda but he embraced it as a complete, you know, sort of guilty pleasure, bargain with the devil in order to get his access to the white house and the people who are part of this, part of the key constituencies of the democratic party, they recognize that. that is why they're shifting to donald trump because he actually cares about the things they care about. larry: no, very again wine. he is very disciplined this time around. i got to do this as a lightning round. i can't do this without a vice presidential pick. i need a vice-presidential pick. kellyanne conway, vice-presidential pick. you're the smartest in the country, what is your pick. >> everyone he is considering is great. i have preference for marco rubio, expands the party. makeky haley donors, rather thanking members of intelligence committee. eloquent leaders on abortion. larry: lightning round, katie pavlich what do you think,

lightning round, vp. >> i don't know, i did notice glenn youngkin didn't actually answered your question when he talked to the president about it. that's a tell. larry: all right. ben domenech, what do you think? >> i ray agree with both of these ladies. i think both of those guys would be fantastic picks. i particularly like the fact that marco rubio represent trump bringing entire coalition together in a way i think is really impressive, something that no one ever really thought he would be able to achieve but he has. larry: marco rubio, you know, grown up, 18-34, all grown up. he is pretty impressive guy. they're all impressive. burgum is good. i don't want to pick any sides here. i'm just your humble news anchor. i'm just saying they're all pretty darn good. i got other questions -- >> none of them are kamala harris. larry: none of them are kamala harris. none of them are joe biden. all of them seem to subscribe to

this we have growthy platform. thank you i have other questions. we will see you all at the convention in minneapolis. thank you for coming an by the by. zoo see you there. larry: larry: katie pavlich, ben domenech, kellyanne conway. kellyanne conway, here's the deal. out right now. new episodes available every single thursday. coming up here on "kudlow", trump as the growthiest platform since ronald reagan's 1980 tax cuts. that's my take. we'll talk it about with newt gingrich when "kudlow" returns. progressive makes it easy to save with a quick commercial auto quote online. so you can get back to your monster to-do list. -really? -get a quote at progresivecommercial.com.

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larry: donald trump has got the growthiest platform since ronald reagan's 1980 across the board tax cuts and i think it is going to pay off. joining us to talk about it, newt gingrich, former house speaker, fox news contributor. newt, we have other things to talk about, but a pleasure to see you, my friend. really, this is i think the the growthiest platform for a presidential candidate for the gop since reagan's across the

board tax cuts with kemp. we were all junior players -- >> look i think it is a remarkable platform. i think that it has a number of very bold proposals. i do think it will lead to a very tramatic level of economic growth -- dramatic of level of economic growth and builds on what trump did in his first term. partly because of your influence, trump has always been committed to less regulation and a much lower tax rate. it will be also interesting to see with the chevron decision by the supreme court where all of a sudden the bureaucracies will lose a great deal of their power to interpret and expand the law. that combined with a trump real aggressive approach on cutting regulations could lead to remarkable changes in the next few years. larry: your chevron point is a brilliant point, you're absolutely right, newt. it opens the door to even more deregulation that perhaps even mr. trump visualized. now you have the supreme court

behind. i just couldn't agree with you more, a thousand times, yes, yes, yes. i think the country wants that kind of growthier policy. we were talking about young kids, minority groups in the last segment. i think suburbanites want that stuff. i think pretty much everybody wants more growth? >> look, it is an old jack kemp line that if you drop five dollars on the sidewalk how long will it take somebody to pick it up? if you are the candidate of more take-home pay, more jobs, greater competitiveness, new technology, more entrepreneurship, unless you're a crazed left-wing socialist, this is the direction to go in. by the way, we've been testing something you and i have talked about at the america's new majority project, we were testing big government socialism versus free enterprise capitalism. we are dramatically, free-market

capitalism, it is a huge advantage. and by the way the average american thinks on that issue that donald trump is virtually identical with them in his belief that a free market creates jobs and they're way apart from the big government socialists. larry: newt, i am still using big government socialism, your phrase. i continue to credit you. it showed up again in the riff tonight. i know you've had a lot of good ones down through the years. this is a masterpiece phrase. speaking of crazed left-wing big government socialists, kamala harris at the top of the ticket could be even a bigger disaster than joe biden? your point. >> distinct -- gingrich 360 i wrote a newsletter titled, collapsing with kamala. it is true. just one example. she has been the border czar and in 3 1/2 years and eight or 10 million illegal immigrants

she had one meeting on the border, one, in 3 1/2 years? larry: wow. >> kamala harris looks fine until you look and i think on the other side if you're the democratic party you're so deeply indebted to the black caucus. i don't think they would tolerate jumping past her to have a all white ticket. they're riley trapped. they can stay in decay with biden or collapse with kamala. those are the two choices. larry: i really think though, bernie sanders is the tail wagging the whole democratic dog, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, all the left-wingers, aoc i don't care who is at the top of the ticket, i'm running out of time like always. but i still think it's not going to matter. newt, we will see you in milwaukee. you will come on set with us. thank you for tonight. we appreciate it very, very much. >> look forward to it. larry: folks i will be right larry: folks i will be right back with my last word.

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♪ larry: my last word is big government socialism. newt gingrich's phrase. doesn't matter who's at the top of the ticket, that's what you're going to get from the democrats, and it is very unpopular. and i just can't believe listman ed donald -- liz macdonald wants it. i just can't believe it. [laughter] elizabeth: it was said once that big government socialism is like sleeping with a hippopotamus. it feels warm and cozy until