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dodges questions about the failed assassination of president trump by the way, there is the fact that kamala harris now jumping in to the 24 race. but she is just biden 2.0, if you ask me, we have congressman byron donalds on that. but first fox news, congressional correspondent aishah hasnie with the latest from the capital, a big day. reporter: this hearing was brou-- buttal it did note go well for director cheatle. saying that sec second lapse was worst she has seen, but she believes she is the best 57 to lead secret service at this time. even though more and more people democrats and republicans are coming out and say could, she has to go. >> i don't want to add to
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the director's terrible horrible, no good, very bad day, but, i will be joining the chairman in calling for the resignation of the director. reporter: we didn't learn very much, she really dodged practically every question. she did tell the committee at-this-point no one has been fired over this because the investigative report is still not complete. it will take 60 days, that set off both republicans and democrats alike. >> i believe your horrifying ineptude is a disgrace go back to guarding doritos. >> has her credibility taken a hit today. >> i believe so it did with me. reporter: and she was dragged here to capitol hill, this was because of a soupsubpoena she has
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refused to come back tomorrow for a house homeland security hearing this might have been only time we will see her here. larry: thank you very much aishah hasnie. we'll get back to this secret service hearing in a moment but first, president trump's rnc was a knock out punch to biden democrats, that is the subject of the riff. >> beside joe biden bad health, and awful performance in debate and bad polling numbers, i think that final knock out punch for biden leaving the race was the successful republic national convention in milwaukee. that is right. the rnc was the final knock out punch for mr. biden, the convention was so positive, so optimistic, so united, so well insp ine inspires, the democrats
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decided they needed a new horse. two days after donald trump's near fatal assassination attempt, saved by the grace of god, he appeared on the convention floor rallying the troops, and he bravely showed up each night to cheer on convention speakers, and the speakers themselves were fantastic. many of whom were not lawmakers or politicians. but ordinary folks, talking about their curbside difficulty on the ground chronically how difficult life has been during biden's years, and then jd vance with his up from poverty speech, devoting the working folks coalition, that donald trump has put together in recent years, then trump's speech. the first half hour was an incredibly heart renting narrative of the assassination attempt, and
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hhis escape. nothing like that has ever been told at a convention. breath taking. and he said it calmly, but he had energy, and he was alert. he was okay. then came the rest of the speech. his usual riffing for some entertainment, then, his promise to close the border, stop the crime wave and far left woke cancel culture, stop the assault on middle class values move america back to its historic meritocracy, drill, baby, drill, deregulate the economy it was a growthier speech, a prosperity speech, it was an opportunity speech. here is a brief line. >> we'll reduce your taxes, still further we gave you the biggest one we'll give you more. and it is going to lead to tremendous growth, we want
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growth in the country. larry: saturday, at the rally in grand rapids, he kept up that growthier drum beat. >> i will cut taxes further than before and that includes no tax on tips. we gave you already the largest tax cut in the history of the nation. larger than reagan cuts but now we'll give you an additional tax cuts a number of tax cuts, we took in more money afternoon the tax cuts than we did prior, we're slash regulation and bring down energy prices, very rapidly. larry: all right in grand hrapids mr. trump included this remarkable and truthful line. >> as you see the democrat party is not the party of democracy. they are the know mes of dem -- the enemies of democracy they keep saying he is the threat to d democracy,
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what the hell did i do for democracy, last week a took a bullet are in democracy. larry: how about that. then, concluding his convention speech on optimistic unity note for trump said -- >> you have been told to lower your expectations and accept less for your families. i am here tonight with the opposite message. your expectations are not big enough. it is time to start expecting and demanding the best leadership in the world, leadership that is bold, dynamic, relentless, and fearless, we can do that we're americans af ambition is our heritage, greatness is our birth right, we will unite, we're going to come together and success will bring us -- >> milwaukee convention was safe, secure, united, ininspiring a at and growth year, it was
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beautifully produced, i don't think that democratic party will be able to conjure up anything like the rnc, i believe that convention will prove to be final knock out punch for joe biden and the democratic party. just think about that all right, that is my riff. now, we'll put the convention aside, and move to today's secret service as assassination hearing, joining us now florida congressman byron donalds who was in the hearing. as always, sir welcome back. we want to just play some of the purpose things you were talking about timelines today, here is some of what you had to say. >> at what time did was secret service aware of the act itcactive threat against president trump? director? what time. in 5 days prior, when
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security advance team did they identify the rooftop as a potential threat? >> i am pulling those reports, that information -- >> it has been 9 days, madame director, did they notice a rooftop 150 yards away that was a potential threat, yes or no? >> i'm certain that the rooftop was noticed. larry: wow, that is -- boy, i'll tell you. byron, your take. i want to talk to but timeline in a minute but your take from this hearing totoday. >> it was a disw dis-- disaster for secret service, they are great men and women, that not only serve president trump but they serve every american president they to with with every fiber of their being but their director let them down in front of the world, that hearing was a debacle. i get it there are some specific things she will not want to talk to or talk
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about in an open setting it deals with how the secret service operates, i respect, that but to show up with no earns and stonewall and not give any member of congress a straight answer on anything, he half the time referred to fbi and their investigation, she doesn't run the fbi, she runs the secret service she should have a full understanding everybody that occurs and relay some of it to the members of congress and american people that did not happen today, it was an abject disaster, if someone can find joe biden he needs to fire her immediately. larry: you raised the issue, of the some of the timing issues, i will never understand this. several hours before the shooting a range finder was picked up that is one thing. at quarter to 6:00 local police identified the
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individual and called it in on a report that the individual was scoping out the roof of the building, that is 5:45, at 5:51, the secret service spots t the assassin and 5:53 identified by secret service as a threat, as 6:00, and an officer reports he spotted individual in question atop that building, 6:02, despite what is a potential threat, the secret service has trump go on stage. there is clear timeline issues, much more detailed than what i have given you, senator johnson has many pages i'm picking out some. but from moment they found out about the range finder, which should have been tip number one and other things, it is incredible to me they let him on, it is a derelict
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tion of duty of the people of secret service agency on the ground. that is another thing. this cheatle woman wherever she was, she was not on the ground, agents were, how in the world could they miss this and let the president go out there put his life on the line. >> this is my question, the moment by moment pieces of information we had there were agents on the ground, someone dropped ball there was communication that did not get to secret service. and probably did not even get to the core security detail around trump. my question, were clear, walk me through the chain of command or communication, from when people started identifying this shooter as someone as a potential threat. up until the time that first shot rang out. she could not do that at a minimum, you run
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organizations, you know how to works, you have to find the person that dropped ball while you do your background work. but there has to be information given to the public that yes, we found the issue, there is a tragedy but this is not what our agency s this not what our agency is about people responsible are hield -- being held ashe a accountable, just giving that information would have been sufficient today. larry: bipartisan calls i might add. other point. i want to -- ask you this, i personally don't believe she should be in charge of this investigation, i think it should be taken out of her hands. with respect to fbi piece, i will leave that to another day. but i don't think -- she says to you, and many of the
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other house members democrats and republican in the hearing she is going through this the d details and looking at the facts, she is not fit to run this investigation, i think that experts from the outside somebody brought in to run this investigation with all kinds of eyewitness interviews and agent interviews and so forth, you see where i'm going, defacto she will not be around secret service she knows it you know it, a lot of people know it reality is we need outside expert, what do you think of that. >> is there a process for that? >> i agree with you, i think first and m foremost there needs to be a bicameral investigative unit from house and senate bipartisan, every member on capitol hill needs to get to the bottom of this. i think that step number one. i think step two, secret
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service is still doing their ininternal review, it cannot be her, this is where white house has to do their job of hold somebody accountable. crises after crises happens to the united states, and nobody is held accountable. by this dang. administration. that breeds an environment of ineptitude that is why donald trump needs to be next president of united states, but i degrees. we need house and senate members to investigate this with secret service and fbi, at the end of the day it is about every living current and former president and about their families, and about our constitutional republic, they must be pretpre-- protected it has to be air tight, we have great agents on the ground who do tremendous work. but the political leadership
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has got to either do its job or get the hell out of the way, it is that s simple. larry: biden never fires anyone, no matter how inept they may be. speaking of joe biden and of the presidential race, in say rumor circulating, you may have heard, that mr. biden is stepping down as democratic candidate. and i guess kamala harris is vice president is the new leading front-runner, you have a thought on that one for us? >> my thought is does not matter if it is joe biden or kamala harris looks to be cam kamala harris right now, i will remind american people that kamala harris is border czar she has done nothing to secure our southern border, she was there when joe biden unleashed a massive inflation crippling every american family and coast-to-coast, she watched that happen, she was sitting
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there, when we lost that that -- we lost afghanistan, and 13 service members died, unnecessarily, she has been there with joe biden every step of the way, joe biden says when they came into office, they were a partnership working hand in hand, his failures of america are her failures of america. we need new leadership, that man is donald j. trump, and it is senator jd vance as next vice president of united states. larry: well said, congressman byron donalds thank you so much. >> coming up president trump's rnc growthy, positive, hopeful, how can democrats even hope to match that? we'll ask senator marsha blackburn. one of the key speakers and platform chairs, you can catch kudlow, monday-friday 4 p.m. every day here on fox business, if you can't, dvr
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tennessee senator marsha blackburn. talk about the republic national convention, today's awful secret service hearings and maybe kamala harris, welcome. i want to play a couple last lines from president trump's speech, thursday night, in milwaukee. >> we're americans, ambition is our heritage, greatness is our birth right, we will unite, we'll come together and success will bri bring us together. larry: there we go. it was a growthy speech, whole convention was fabulous, i know you remember you were one of the chairs of the notes platform committee it was terrific. my thought, all things that happened to president biden, i think this republic convention in milwaukee was the final knock out punch.
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i know he was teetering for a variety of reasons, i think that democrats around him saw that convention and messaging and what president trump said, and said oh, my dpgod we got to try a different horse, that is what i think, that is how good i thought that republic national convention was. >> i agree with you. it was a great convention. i was so pleased to be a part of it. and larry, it was a growth speech. it was a visionary speech from president trump. we should say g.o.p. stands for great opportunity party. because president trump made it very clear, that he wants everyone to dream big dreams. and let's preserve that american treatment for everyone. now what you see the democrats doing as they know that they are running at a deficit, they disenf
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dise disenfranchize 14 1/2 million democrat voters, they dump joe biden because they know he cannot win, kamala harris is about as unpopular at joe biden, they may decide to dump her by the time they get to convention, kamala was most liberal member of u.s. senate, she for defunding police, few are officers on street, counsels for drug dealers, and for 10 million illegal aliens she let in the nation, since she was the border czar, she is for letting then vote and prisoners vote. the list goes on and on. and we know that is not what the american people are wanting, we know that the american people have heard our message, they are listening, they are paying attention, donald trump will
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win in november. larry: i like that word visionary, ma'am, i should have put that in my riff, visionary. i had a lot of adjectives or adverbs whatever it is, on this kamala harris thing, joe biden 2.0, it worse, she is to left, if there is any elbow room to left of biden and the progressives, she is there what could is that? i don't understand that. >> she terms herself a progressive. we know that the american people are tired of dei, and tired of esg, tired are being broke, tired of seeing drugs in their communities, they are tired of gangs and crimes, and human trafficking and sex trafficking, they are fed up with the fact that our allies do not know they are our allies, and our enemies do not fear us.
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and they are saying something needs to be done to put this country back on track, they are looking to republicans to do that i think it is why if we work really hard we'll take the senate, we'll pick up seats in the house, and we'll send president trump back to the white house. larry: last one senator blackburn, i mentioned this to congressman byron donalds, i don't believe that the secret service should be in charge of this investigation, you speak to that, i know you have been hot on the trail. >> yes, i am. and kimberly cheatle should be fired, she had have been fired saturday night, it is unconscionable a lead agent of lead agency after an assassination attempt. could not go out and hold a press conference. and the fact they allowed president trump on that stage, this investigation
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needs to be an independent counsel, congress needs to take as action, department of homeland security the doj, and the secret service does not need to be leading the investigation, they need to come forward with answers, as to how in the world, this could have happened, they have one job. it is to protect that protectee, you have kim perly cheatle what does not understand the importance of her job, this [music] like missing your sales figures or not hitting your quota numbers or having a revenue shortfall, when you screw up people die. and that is what happened when president trump was shot on saturday in butler, pennsylvania. larry: well, to use his line
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it was by the grace of god, he dodged that bullet. >> you got it. larry: you know what senator, one last thing, the grace of god and pr providence and spiritual thinking was very much a part of that convention. >> it was like a big tent revival, and a political rally. all week-long, i absolutely loved it. i thought it was the best convention we have ever had. larry: best one that i ever covered, senator marsha blackburn thank you, ma'am. >> you got it. larry: coming up on kudlow, open borders. defunding the police, no more fracking, no more growth. no more tax cuts, no more anything. that is kamala harris' -- what is that? kamala's biden 2.0 agenda,
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that is a phrase, we'll talk about that with vivek ramaswamy, marsha blackburn started us off, it this is biden 2.0, maybe to the left it is worse. i'm kudlow 1.0, i'm the original we'll be right back. did you ever worry we wouldn't get to enjoy this? [jeff laughs maniacally] (inner monologue) seriously, look at these guys. they are playing great. meanwhile, i'm on the green and all i can think about is all the green i'm spending on 3 kids in college. not to mention the kitchen remodel, and we'd just remodel the bathrooms last month. with empower, i get all of my financial questions answered. so i don't have to worry. so you're like a guru now? oh here it comes— join 18 million americans and take control of your financial future with a real time dashboard and real live conversations. empower. what's next.
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rehoboth. >> joe biden legacy of accomplishment over the last 3 years is unmatched in modern history. in one term he has already -- yes, you may clap, our president joe biden fights for the american people and we're deeply grateful for his service to the nation. reporter: nancy pelosi endorsing harris for president. hakeem jeffries not yet, but he and rest of the party brass are takes note of 81 million dollars in grassroots donation that came in in 24 hours after biden dropped. >> vice president kamala harris has excited the community. she has excited the house democratic caucus. and is exciting the country. reporter: the democratic nominee does not live in delaware at the moment, that
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is where campaign headquarters s vice president will pop up at campaign hq near president biden's home. for a meet and dp greet with staffers whose jobs changed quite a bit yesterday. >> is kamala the horse. reporter: seems like it for no other reason no bodi has k-r78 forward to say they are trying to whip delegates to challenge her. they want her with delegate support by wednesday night. larry: peter doocy the best of the best, joining us now is vivek ramaswamy. former president at candidate. president trump surrogate. vivek, i don't know. you know. the democrats are looking for a winning horse, i don't know how they will find one, they are looking for a unicorn in is no such thing as a democratic unicorn, you
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know, that only unicorn is donald j. trump, what do you think? >> i think that democrats have gone to great ledges to try to defeat donald trump i remain skeptical it will be cameron. the reality that longer this goes in some ways it is better for them. whoever their new candidate s they hope november comes while they are in honeyy moon phase with that new candidate, bottom line it does not matter, we're not running against a candid but against a machine, 1 we see it that way, our objective is to disman dismantle that machine. that is what donald trump will do, the more we focus on agenda. irirrespective of shenanigans from the other side. larry: vivek for all those
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reasons, i don't think that the secret service should investigate the secret service. i just don't. they are not qualified, this woman has to go. everyone knows that her top lieutenants anyone associated with what happened in butler, pennsylvania should go, they need outside experts. bring in -- this -- they are not going inform america about what happened and how it should be fixed. what do you think? >> i think yes that is spot on. but it goes to a deeper issue with the bureaucracy and federal government. there is no accountability, period. across the three letter agencies not just secret service, the people we elect to run the government are not running the government, they are unelected bureaucrats setting policy across the board, you see a disaster or near disaster like this, this is a wake up wake up call, this is
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ubiquitous in u.s. government, should there be outside investigations from outside agency? , of course. but the deeper issue we need to s shut down much of that bureaucracy, it has not happened in a generation, i think we have a once in a generation opportunity to do it, not only by electing donald trump but doing it against a backdrop of a supreme court that agrees much of this bureaucracy is unconstitutional, if one thing that will save in their country for next twovene t century it is shut down that you fourth branch of government. larry: you are on message, vivek ramaswamy, thank you my friend appreciate it. >> great speech at the convention. all right, joining us now, comments on democrat search for a unicorn, mollie
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hemingway fox news contributor, ben domenech. i will get it, editor at large, at spectator. and fox news contributor. kids, i want you to hear one more toward the back end of mr. trump's speech at the convention. do you have it? i will play it one more time. so up lifting and visionary. >> as you see the democrat party is not the party of democracy. they are really the enemies of democracy. they keep saying, he is a threat to the democracy. i am saying what the hell do i do, last week i took a pollbullet for democracy. larry: last week, i took a bullet for democracy, mollie hemingway that some line that cuts through the fog. >> amazing, democrats have
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been running this campaign claiming that republicans are a threat to democracy, you have in trump candidacy, nomination now people really choosing this person over and against what the entire regime wants, there is a beautiful picture of what happens when the people get to pick their open person. on the other hand, you have in democrat party, they did choose their nominee, it was joe biden. and then powerful interests media and other top democrats knew he was unlikely to win so they they just summarily replace him with someone else it is very democratic and very weird, but it is what we're living flew. through. larry: ben that is not really democracy, they may keep dumping others. they put kamala harris up you do polling in next couple of days, her polling has always b been terrible they are looking for a democratic unicorn there is no up thing, ben.
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what do you think? >> i think that i'll disagree with you because i think that media will do such a production job of trying to turn kamala harris into something she is not. over course of the coming weeks, and run-up to this democratic convention in chicago, they will be fully invested, she has hollywood dollars coming her way, and got the backing of george soros and nancy pelosi. and i think with that consolidation she goes from being hypothetical to someone that democrats will try to unite around but also, i think they will be trying to guard against her having any slip ups. they will try to spin this in to something that she is really not, they are -- will try to turn her into that unicorn, and i think it is important for american people to see kamala harris for who she is, someone who has never won over voters and really only in the occupying the position she
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is in now because of democratic party elite, she was a terrible candidate in past in california, she was a terrible candidate when she ran for president, and truth is, he she would not be in in position without the people in power choosing her over anyone else in the field, this potential field who could be a better candidate. larry: that is the thing, unicorns are in your fan of sees. -- fantasies, they try to turn media, ben is so fond of, done really do that well defending joe biden. if you think about it. really. i mean, they kind of went there and then the debate ended that and as i said before, i think that republican convention knocked biden out. i think it knocked out the democrats, they can't pursue anything like that. mollie, would you advocate
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that the republicans mr. president trump changed his strategy? all of a sudden because of kamala harris? or is she joe biden 2. 0 and to the left of that? >> yes, there something of a gift for the republicans in that kamala harris is as ben knows, someone who is less popular than joe biden is or has been so unpopular, media will engage in propaganda unlike anything that we've seen until this moment. to get her across the finish line it will be difficult, she actually does not present in anyway add moderate because of her rhetoric and track record, big argument what biden was kind of moderate and competent. she does not -- she not moderate, no point has she exuded come tense on the trial and snee and she is not running from biden-harris agenda, republicans should be aware that democrats win election
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by moving ballots into ballot boxes not a good candidate or a good message, they should not in go way rest on their laurels. >> the mollie hemingway message, you are correct, i think this year they are on it with elon musk and his pals, helping to fund it even zucker bucks called trump bad ass at the convention, that is interesting, mollie thank you and ben thank you. >> coming up, growthier wins, growthier, okay. cudkudlow word. we'll talk growther with artyou laffer when kudlow returns. what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma!
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larry: all right growthier always wins, joining us now growthier art laffer. author of his book taxes have consequences, growthier always wins, okay t that is my take, the tax cutter wins, and tax hiker loses, trump's convention speech was super growthy, with a whole section on it, i was yelling from the side of the hall growthier, and he
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repeated it in grand rapids, what do you make of it? he is the unicorn. trump is the growthier unicorn. >> he is -- i would put him as dumbo, dumbo had two growthy ears. no? larry: that was terrible. >> he is terrorist displik terrific, he did a great job seeker growthier. -- he is growthier, you know with kamala harris she is worse than biden on energy, she is worse than biden on tax cuts and jobs act and worse on health care transparency, and she is worse than biden on trade. she wants to restrict trade, she didn't vote for the trump trade bill, here you go, you have a situation you have someone less growthy than biden and biden was terrible with that stuff. i don't know, i think that growth wins.
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larry: it is interesting to me on this point, a big point, not a small point. it is is not like mr. trump had one sentence in his whole convention speech about growth. he had pair gaffes in there -- paragraphs in there and comes back and repeat its in grand rapids, michigan, he is convinced. that lower taxes, and less regulatory red tape which is killing mom and pop, and you know liquid gold as you call it drill, baby, drill, he is convinced that growth with a winning message for the middle class, right, that is the key point, he is not letting up on this which i think it really, the media has overlooked his growth message for the better part of last several years for heaven's sakes. >> that is true, he also knows a lot about it he is an expert on the policies, he has lived them, made his
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living through them and followed them and understands economics and growth. he understands all of these issues, he understands price tr transparency and healthcare. he understands the role of energy, you look how high applies it -- he apply its to michigan, these guys are antiauto industry because of energy policies and regard to tax cuts and job actions which are phenomenal, results are in what you would hope they would be, and sound money, he wants low inflation, which is also good, and kamala harris and joe biden don't get that. this is not their turf, they don't understand it. they would make markedly inferior presidents to donald trump. larry: you know -- >> trump is not going to waiver, he will not be defeated by someone suggesting something different, is not amenable to arguments in the wrong way. larry: one thing interesting last point, vice president
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harris, and not personal, don't know her. but, policy wise, she has come out, while she was running for president, and while she was a u.s. senator, and she and senator bernie sanders sponsored a nationalization of health care. which was priced out, at 35 trillion dollars. 35 trillion. >> that is what i mean. larry: that is something, highwahope jd vance will bring it up in campaign, 35 t trillion. how about these apples? >> you are crick. that is what i min by health care, trump wants to reduce cost and increase quality with his executive orders, these people, they -- kamala harris wants to go the other way. larry: got to jump out, i'm impress thred.
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