larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow, i'm l arry kudlow. secret service chief cheatle

is out. but still plenty of other questions about the failed trump assassination attempt. senator tommy tuberville on that and more in a few moments, but first, fox news aishah hasnie on capitol hill with the latest. this story is not closed, she is anyone. what is cooking up there? reporter: mm-hmm. this is just the beginning house democrats and republicans tell me that kim cheatle resigning is not enough. that is why house speaker mike johnson and democrat liter hakeem jeffries announce a bipartisan task force to look into that assassination attempt, they want congress to step in part of that over site happened today with pennsylvania state police commissioner testifying here on the hill. he revealed that the two officers with butler county emergency service unit was in that agr building where

the shooter was atop of, to the best of his thi knowledge, they had a clear view of where the gunman would have climbed up, they were told to move to go search for him. law makers are questioning who the heck made that decision. >> between time he was spotted on ground and identified as someone suspicious, until the shooting, they left that post to go look for him, is that what you are saying. >> my understanding is yes with other municipal officers, based on interviews that we have conducted, i want to be clear, i don't want to establish a timeline, minute by minute we don't have that yet. >> i think that is -- reporter: kim cheatle was to be here today, she declined before she resigned.

fbi director christopher wray will testify tomorrow, the fbi is leading this investigation, they are the ones that put that report out, in 60 days, perhaps we'll get more answers, more we find out, the worse the story gets. larry: aishah, can you tell us about this task force, bipartisan task force, 7 republicans 6 democrats and who is going to staff up this task force. experts? you know, i don't trust the leaders of the agencies any more. reporter: it will be made up of lawmakers. speaker johnson and leader jeffries are apounding lawmakers, there has been a lot of interests by many members to be a part of this task force from both sides of the aisle, there is a bipartisan push to get to the bottom of this, this is

not a joke that is not jockeying as aoc p put it yesterday, this is matter of highest security measures for some of the most important people in country. congress is very much taking it seriously, only thing to point out, they don't have a lot of time to look into this. this is now talk that house could leave at the end of this week for summer vacation break for about 12 weeks. so, i don't know how much they could get didn't you know by friday. larry: sure, take a vacation why not go fishing, aishah hasnie thank you. we will return to this story in just a moment. but before that, kamala harris a big government california socialist explain and simple -- plain and simple, that is the subject of the riff. >> kamala harris was ranked most left wing senator in 2019, more left than bernie sanders. that according to government

track. an independent government tracking web site and today's "wall street journal" had a beauty of editorial, what kamala harris believes. looks like big government socialism, california progressive style, that is scarier. let me quote from journal, so, mark her down as endorsing spending blowout that caused inflation, green new deal, and entitlement expansions and student loan for giveness. until she says otherwise, we should assume in favor of mr. biden a 5 trillion dollar tax increase in 2025. as joe biden loyal veep, she will be accountable for 20% cumulative rise in cost of living and more than 4% drop in average weekly wages, both fact id

factoid, and a big blow to middle class folks. there is more, she is a strong opponent of fracking in 2019 she endorsed a nationwide ban on oil and gas fracking. she is hostile to facile fuels -- fossil fuels, during her senate years since then talks about environmental justice. guess what that means? green new deal war on facile fuels will continue if she wins white house. she is a big supporter of electric vehicles and would end gasoline power cars, i would say under those policies, gasoline and electricity, which have already gone sky-high during the biden-harris years, they will blow sky-high. under the vice president's california style policies, you have not seen anything

yet. there is more, back to her environmental justice model. she links this to racial justice, economic justice, housing justice, and education justice. whew, that sounds very woke to me. ccancel traditional culture, dei on a grand scale, diversity, equity and inclusion die. during the su summer riots of 2020 he advocated defunding police, she was regarded add so-called border czar, at one point she supported eliminating the i.c.e., immigration and customs enforcement. also add border czar, she never once spoke to the border patrol chiefs jason owens or raul ortiz, she teamed up with bernie sanders in favor of his medicare for all legislation

to cost 35 trillion dollars. that is 35 trillion dollars to nationalize our healthcare system. by the way, pay for it with higher income taxes she said, probably would require about a 95 percent marginal tax rate, but i'm just guessing on that one. and another beauty is her support for confiscating all firearms through some kind of a buyback plan. and on top of this, as senator, she supported universal basic income, or guarantees income. and she also supported rent and utility payment control. fair to say, judging by her record in senate and joe biden loyal veep, kamala harris is a spender. a taxer, a regulator, that is why i refer to her at big government socialism, she takes from peter and gives to paul. think of it as california

model of everything. this we have learned is a failed model. mr. trump on the other hand is a growth guy, make the economic pie larger, cutting taxes drill, baby, drill, limited spending, think of that as the florida or texas model of everything. who do you trust? blue state socialism or rid state capitalism, i am putting my chips on red. that is the riff. all right. joining us now, we bring back our great friend alabama senator tommy t tuberville, i bet you put your chips on red too, sir, thank you for coming on. let me play -- i have some sound, hang on. some sound trump and vance discussing this whole assassination attempt and their views on jesse water nigh.

>> they had a policeman that saw the man with a gun, you thought that would have been convoyed to others, high was thehe was there for a long period of time. >> the fang fact that there has been no transparency, saying what the hell happened and are we making -- taking steps to ensure it does not happy again. larry: senator tuberville, your thought on this you have house hearings, and kim cheatle resigned, fine, but that will not solve everything, the fbi is running this investigation, and or secret service is running a part of it. and or the department of justice will have a hand in it in recent years do not just them, i would like to see outside experts, don't

know if that is possible, what say you? >> i'm with you, i wouldn't trust anyone in the three letter agencies up here, in any kind of law enforcement. at the top of ring. we come within a few millimeters of losing possibly the next president of united states and 45th president. organization is key to success. i know a lot of secret service agencies that work with president trump. i play golf with him, i have seen them a lot they work very hard, they are diligent there was no communication at this site. no communication between secret service and the local police. somewhere the ball of dropped. you keep thinking about this young man, 20 years old on top of a 10 a tin roof in middle of day was 150 degrees. how in the world does that happen. you know, you can't be up there long, it just almost a devastating ending to this it was when we lost the

fireman and two others were hit this was totally mishandled. and it all starts at white house, there was not enough people, it was a w skeleton crew of secret service, trying to do the job of 30 or 40 people. larry: mr. trump said that cheatle from secret service, turned him down several times. for more protection. he asked for more protection and turned own, i think right there is a problem. someone has got to b cull for that, there was a secret service service american, i think on that roof and they left. they found range finder, they located that range finder and let me read you a brief timeline, 5:45,

quarter to 6, local police identified the individual and called the report in. at 5:51, the secret service spotted that assassin. at 5:53, the individual was identified by the secret service as a threat. and then at 6 p.m., office reports on open econ econsecurity channel he spotted individual atop the building with range findinfifine -- finder and 6:02, president trump is allowed to go on stage, they knew, they knew they had information they saw with their own eyes and equipment and so forth and let trump go on the stage. senator tuberville, this s unbelievable. by the grace of god, mr. trump is still alive.

>> it goes back what i said before, communication, there was no communication from local law enforcement to secret service there is no way that people around president trump every day, and i know most of them, they would have never let him go out on that stage had there known there was any type of threat, i have been to many rallies with him, and sat back stage with him, he is well protected with had secret service. it was just a drop of organizational skills from people all over. and i'm still shocked, i know lady that was in charge of secret service, 3.1 billion budget, 8 thousand employees, and she was a dei basically, appointee from joe biden, a good friend. we almost lost a friend and a former president and a great leader hopefully future leader, again. but, there is no excuse we are fortunate we came out with him not losing his life

but we lost other people, the job for secret service is to keep everyone safe some something like this and when he pulled that trigger secret service lost its battle because that is their job to keep him from pulling a trigger on anyone around any type of person like trump. larry: i think senator t tuberville, i hope congressional investigations bring in outside experts, you know, nonpartisan people outside experts, who can go through hammer and tongs, you know. versus by verse. i am not going to believe the doj or the fbi, i hate to say it you know field people are terrific, the leadership is the problem. senator tuberville, moving along, i guess i painted kamala harris as a big california big government socialist progressive. and i think mr. trump is running a kind of

texas/florida pro capitalist grow the pie business guy, am i wrong, if i being too hard on her? she has to deal with problems of the administration, and affordability crisis. what she said in past in senate she was most liberal senate votes record. i don't want to be too hard on her, not personal, i don't believe i ever met her, what do you think about this california versus texas is how i see it or california versus florida or california versus alabama. how about that? >> yeah, she was deciding vote on the inflation reduction act she came over advice president and made that vote, there could not be two different types of leadership or supposed leadership from the left, i walcall it weak. the idea of what they can do on left with socialism and kamala harris cannot stand law enforcement any type of law enforce am. she wants to give up her street our neighborhoods

everyone should be the same, everyone is not the same, they are not the same you have do go by the law, she does not she is a lawyer but she does not care about the law, president trump is so different in terms of growth of the country, and building the country back, drilling for oil, shy ha -- she hates oil and tracking, she is farther left than joe biden, i didn't think they could pick anyone worse, but they did, former president obama has not endorsed her, that makes me think they will wait, we'll see what happeneds, some people up here starting to jump on the ship, that makes no difference, the american people have seen what shaped, and they had live with what is happening, that is the main thing, they had to live through the sorry economy with the open borders that kamala harris herself has been in charge of. how you can put someone in

charge of a situation where you lift 15 or 20 million people come in. some of niece -- the people are good but most are garagage, we'll live in tough times because of a lot of these people that have come in with different agendas other than living in our great country. larry: 30. >> you know she -- in 2020, when riots were happening she was for defund police, and her whole history is dei. diversity, equity and inclusion. what does that tell you? it is woke. it anti-cops, among other things, more dei, dee f defund police, eliminate iei.c.e., never talk to chiefs of border patrol.

>> she is for globalization and one world government for this country going the way of socialism, maybe farther, there no way that american people will go for that. there will have to do a great selling job, she has to change her tune but she is not able to do that, she in california believes in that nonsense they put that great state of california in and we have seen what happened there, they have almost -- they have put them under, we have bailed them out several times from federal government. it is not going to be easy, we know what we're fighting, trying to get former president trump across finish line. but, thank god he is safe, let's go. larry: thank you, sir, senator tommy tuberville. >> all right coming up president trump has growthiest platform, making sure that his vp mr. vance on on board with that we'll ask steve moore all that when kudlow returns.

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>> we'll reduce your taxes, still further we gave you the biggest one as i said we'll give you more. it will be lead to tremendous growth, we want growth in our country. larry: growth. can't get enough. terrific. steve moore, though, for all of good things jd vance is saying, and his credentials and story, he has appeared several times at convention and since convention, he was in ohio yesterday, his hometown, jd vance has not once talked about the trump tax cuts or deregulation. not once, and i'm not sure i understand why. or whether that is a problem. just seems that it is consistent. and i don't think that is a healthy thing, what do you think? >> well, i have gotten to know jd vance, i endorsed him strongly when he ran for senate in ohio.

and i think she a -- he is a good man, and i have great admiration, do i agree with him issue, no, i do not agree with donald trump over issue. 85 to 95 percent of the issues i do, but with the tax cuts, i think maybe you and i and art laffer have to sit with him for a bit and explain supply side model, i believe h he voted for trump tax cuts otrade, i and art laffer are more free traders than he. i'm not worried about it i think growthy is a good way do describe what trump was talking about, this is most supply side, pro great, antiregulation speech that i heard a president give since ronald reagan left the white house. i am not worried about it, but maybe we need to nudge jd vance a little bit in our direction.

larry: growth message, including drill, baby, drill, mr. vance does talk about and i like the fact that jd vance you know up from poverty, aiming at working folks, i like that. a great patriot as a marine and a venture capitalist. mr. trump 's examine has so much to do with lower taxes has a way of cleaning out the swamp and promoting economy growth, it is essential that jd vance adopt that language. he is the running mate, mr. trump who sets policy and wrote the platform. >> trump said he wants to continue to lower corporate and small business tax rates, we're very much in favor of, i think that jd vance will come around to that, he may need more economic education on that stuff. i am a little bit worried about a big government

conservatism emerged some conservatives top use big government do advance co conservative causes that will not work. we want to take power out of washington to states and people. the 9th and 10th amendments tell us to do, trump is aboard that and i think that jd vance will be there, if you do pro drilling policies and cut tax rates and reduce regulations, i believe that this economy will explode with growth. there was almost nothing in the speech that donald trump gave that i disagreed with. and one quick thing, i love that he rans talking about universal school choice that is an economic issue, we need our kids do be smart of and best educated in the worlds. >> and mr. vance agrees with that. he has mentioned to do

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larry: kamala harris. they have been flocking to trump. and some of senate races will change, i don't know? joining us now katie pavlich. fox news contributor, and tammy bruce, fox news

contributor and author of the new book fear itself. exposing left's mind killing agenda, on shelves today. welcome. a lot of loose talk about race. there always is, democrats do, i will ask you katie first, is kamala harris doing to stop trump's momentum for minority voters, young minority voters, working voters, young voters, is that changing? >> she will not stop momentum with people in those demographics who want a better economic policy, she may b may be enthuse young voters who didn't want to vote for joe biden, they will try to refresh her, and repackaging. they will say she is most amazing woman ever and women

have to support women, she has been pretty good on campaign trail on things like abortion and getting out the vote. but in terms of economy policies i don't think she will a able to take those voters away. >> that is the thing, she is a part of affordability crisis, tammy, i am no you answer. i ask the question, i will zip it and let you answer. >> already, there is one headline someone in democratic party says that kamala harris is you know gagainst the status quo, she will bust up the system, she is the system, she is a perfect sample of the system, your point bringing out a sliver of a section of a group of people could affect down ballot races in particular say minnesota or michigan or wisconsin, if they are worried about

nature of the house, and maybe you less the senate here, but it could have an impact on those races. maybe, i was thinking she won't want to be a sacrificial lamb and lose first time, 24 may be her year, otherwise it does not make sense, trump will do a very good job on the issues, talking about the issues. clearly, her behavior, not just -- look not doing anything about border is a passive-aggressive thing to do, not just a failure, you added into the catastrophe, and the same with the economy. so to try to pass her off as someone new who has nothing to do with any of did is an insult on the voter. larry: to quote churchhill, in 1951, anyway, he said you are a sheep in sheep's clothing, you are a

socialist and socialist closing that is what kamala is, the california model, she has said she is against fracking, and green new deal, i'm looking at some of senate races. brown in ohio, hig this is a oil and gas state, jon tester in montana they do cocoal and copper and oil and gas, and in nevada, jackie rosen is running, pretty close to the border, border will be a big problem. kamala harris has done nothing on the border, she can't live that down, it will hurt the under ticket. >> former president trump did a phone call with reporters he went after kamala harris' record on the border, not letting her run away from fact she was in charge of willfully opening

the border and destroying ouring well system with how immigration is to be processed here. they are not running away from that on the industry issues, you get outside of the coast, she and san francisco, she has supported and led charge of every single regulation has been debilitating to industry, talk about industry you talk about thousands of jobs, and people who. larry: taxes. >> sent jobs to china. >> we have tape on trump. >> kamala harris was appointed border czar, in march of the 2021 since that time millions of illegal aliens have invaded our country countless americans killed by migrant crime because of her willful demolition of american borders and laws. larry: she can't climb out of that, she can't climb out of fracking or cost of

living. >> her at the top, s suppose lead is a indication of disco disconnect of democratic party and level of chaos that occurred, we know top issues, she is representative, she has not had much scrutiny, she has been presented as person who has been responsible for this, when we say she has not done anything, she has done a lot and result is what we see every day,. larry: california model, i call it california model, trump is running texas or florida model. >> anti-central planning model that allows industry to thrive. >> creating jobs. >> one thing their campaign is a ago. larry: trump wants to get it make the economic pie larger. >> it goes -- >> a 1980s thing. >> their line that trump will take us back, i hope so. >> so do americans, and

should be embraced, of course, we wanting to go back. to energy independence, better wages, full. and a peaceful world. where bad guys are cowering in their caves and we send a dog after them, that is the world. we want to go back, embrace it. larry: trump tough. >> sheep in sheep's clothing. >> that is -- a socialist, what about -- >> socialist. >> don't fool us. >> is that a communist? >> yes, well, it -- i think once you get enough layer it something out. >> athlet i thought it was the good. katie pavlich and tammy bruce. >> joining us now texas congressman wesley hunt. welcome back. we have some tape? about today's hearings? some tape?

no tape. we'll go. just you and me. i do not understand -- wesley hunt, you are a former military man who the committees and investigations will do unless they bring in outside experts. because, i hate to say it, i do not believe that justice department, sir, i do not believe the leadership of the fbi, i do not believe the leadership of the secret service. i do believe in the rank and file. for secret service. and fbi. but i do not believe in the washington leadership, therefore, i suggest what investigations occur it cannot be left to them, they have to bring and lawmakers may mean well you you have bipartisan support. but i think you have to bring in outside experts to organize and catalog and research, what do you think about that? >> i don't disagree.

christopher wray in front of house judiciary committee tomorrow, i'm asking questions about what happened. we saw with president trump was a dpai fal a -- failure, as a military guy understand thats how things work that is a blunder, i'm glad that head of secret service resigned but that is not enough, an american president of the shot, i don't care who it is, we the people, here we should be disgusted with what we s saw and should get to bottom, there is skepticism toward fbi and cia it is warranted. we understand it but we have to go through process of having the investigation and hearings and making sure we have an idea who was happened to it doesn't happen again and put people in charge that are comp tent that is -- competent that can bro protecter trump

moving forward. larry: i am in favor of the investigations, but i am worried about what will run them, my friend kash patel has a great op-ed, he has been in charge of some of these investigations, he wants a new team. legislative over ser seers i am okay with that, other thing, if you read the timeline, i am sure you have. it is inconceivable. to me. it is inconceivable that the service would have let mr. trump go on stage. knowing that are what they knew about this shooter, about the path pathfinder. this is one of the greatest mysteries, how they could have done that secret

service knows better, they know better. >> it was a 5 minute window we could have taken this guy out. president is in direct line of sight it could be fired oup to us to take out that shooter or we get president trump off stage. it there was time to do both. thank god president trump turned his head and he is still with us, i don't want to just rely on thanking god, i want to make sure we protect him properly with proper detail with people with right intent and right skill set. you are right, i am skeptical about all of the earnings we cannot allow this to happen in future, there is a heightened sense of awareness here, there are protesters in the rotunda around capital. there is a heightened sense of awareness, i don't want to see, it president trump put in this pos position

again because we can't keep him safe. larry: you will go out and have your summer recess coming in or whatever, you will leave it up to the bureaucrats, again. this is what troubles me. >> unfortunately. larry: they love this, this taylor made for them. they are 24/7 to defend their self interest, it is the swamp, which has to be upended and ripped apart, this is a good place to start because of bipartisan concern over what happened. i'm saying, you and i have to talk. >> this is why trump has to come back, if we want to drain the swamp and strip some agencies from their power, and power from the bureaucrats, this is what democracy is about, democracy on the line. here in november 5, it is critical we get him back in office. larry: i got to jump congressman wesley hunt. >> god bless thank you. larry: coming up senate finally getting serious

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larry: joining us now texas senator john cornyn, a couple things, first is story about permitting bill. oil, gas, coal, rare earth minerals, mr. barrasso, joe manchin it could be a big thing if you had a good president and senate. >> impediments to building things in america, a lot is self inflicked because of permitting problems, i congratulate senator barrasso, and manchin forgetting this conversation started, i have no doubt under trump administration we'll be able to get this

addressed. this is a good place to start now. larry: people may not understand it, you know permitting, you know, permitting cuts red tape, and cuts time frame. and makes one -- i could one federal decision making, just gets stuff done. it is green stuff, as well as fossil stuff, as well as rare earth stuff. >> absolutely. you need transmission lines to transmit green energy as well as that produce by natural gas or nuclear power, but you can't build the transmission lines without permits. in texas we do it fast, not so. the rest of nation. larry: got it and kamala harris is against fracking and fossil fuels, i want to ask, you served in senate with kamala harris. is it dre true she had most liberal left voting record more liberal than bernie sanders. >> it was similar to bernie

sanders it was so short of time she passed through almost like a drive-by,al her policies are anti-american energy that is antiamerican influence in the world. we're selling it to our friends and allies so they don't have do buy from russia. larry: how will that play in election you have all of the states, including important senate races, they are in states that deal with fossil fuels and she is 100% against p fossil fuel like in ohio or montana and pennsylvania. >> pennsylvania, right. i think this is good should be an important issue in election, they know where president trump stands, drill, baby, drill. it was great for america and great for american jobs and support for friends and allies but kamala harris wants to go bad old days before american energy is

something we produced at home. larry: senator, is this senate going to weigh in to this secret service investigation. which is such a scandal, i know director cheatle resigned that is just the tip. is there anything going on in senate. >> there will be an on going investigation. i know there is already in the house. but we should not let it just pass this is not just an negligence or income/10 oror income tech of director, there was, that it is more than that this is systemic to have a former president, a presidential candidate nearly assassinated is traumatic even. not to mention those families who lost loved ones, we need to get to bottom of this number one job of secret service is to protect the president, they did not do it. >> 100%, senator cornyn we

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