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most important. elizabeth: thank you so much, larry. let's take it from here. welcome to "the enoohing -- evening edit." president trump returns to pennsylvania for a rally in harrisburg tomorrow just weeks after the assassination attempt that almost took his life, but today we had major fireworks on capitol hill. acting secret service chief grilled about security lapses, seemingly unable to answer the questions that needed to be asked. watch this. >> my question is, why don't you with relieve everybody of duty who made bad judgment? so, yeah, you're right, i am zeroing in on somebody. i'm trying to find somebody who's accountable here. >> i a acknowledge this was a failure -- >> is it not prima facie that somebody failed? >> sir, this could have been our texas school book depository. i have lost sleep over that a just like you have, and i will tell you, senator, i will tell you, senator, that i will not rush to to judgment and put people -- >> i can't believe that you

are -- unfairly persecuted? >> unfairly, sir. we have to be able to have a proper investigation into this. >> when did the snipers first see him? >> as soon as he presented himself as a target and a threat to the president, sir. >> and when was that? >> he fires initially -- >> i do know the answer, sir. i'm telling you that -- >> what is the answer? >> no, they did not see him. >> they never saw him? >> no, sir. elizabeth: okay. joining me now from senate homeland security, senator roger marshall. senator, what did you make of this? sounded like it was really frustrating. >> yeah, elizabeth, it was frustrating. this is what i would share with you. folks back home don't the fbi. they have no faith or to confidence in the secret service right now. and this hearing did nothing to relieve those fierce, that the secret service -- fears, that the secret service has significant institutional problems, cultural issues within it, and that's why they need a big change. we need somebody to come in

there, a crisis intervention team, someone like a mike pompeo that would come in, take control of that secret service, turn the it upside down and start over. i'm just telling you, there's nothing this secret service director's going to be able to do right now. he cannot see the forest for the trees that he's not objective. he's trying to protect everybody's job. people should be at least placed on leave until we get to the bottom of this. elizabeth: you know, senator josh hawley tweeted the secret service director's testifying, you know, people made mistakes. he won't say who they are, won't fire anyone. they know more from whistleblowers than the secret service. real clear politics has been reporting based on anonymous sources that the acting secret service director was involved in denying more security resources to trump's rallies. why? >> yeah, i think that's one more question that he really either answered, he either lied about it or led us astray. he would not tell us who was responsible for denying president trump more security. he wouldn't tell us who makes

the decisions to say, no, we're not going to use a drone. he would not say who drew the security line and left 10 buildings within direct line of the president. so even within days a normal postmortem on an event like this should reveal those basic stops to say here's where the basic mistakes were, these are the people that we've relieved of their duty, we've made these corrections to protect president trump at the next rally. elizabeth: okay. so here's the issue, here's what the concern is, there was bias against president trump inside the fbi when he was president. there's fears that alejandro mayorkas runs the secret service and is head of homeland security, there may still be bias against president trump. are you worried about that. >> absolutely. and this is why americans don't the fbi, they don't have faith in the secret service. are these political motivations to deny president trump his protection, deny rfk jr. protection? because it legitimizes them as a candidates for the president as

well. so i don't think it was the rank and file if security members out there that care whether they're protecting a republican or democrat, but these decisions at the top level, its sure feels like they're political -- it sure feels like they're political. secretary mayorkas has been impeached and has allowed is 11 million people across the border. yes, america's concerned. i'm concerned. elizabeth: for some reason the secret service's drone platform was not working the day of the butler rally because of cellular bandwidth problems. watch president trump say he's not going to be stopped. he's still going to campaign in pennsylvania where he was nearly assassinated, and watch him talk about first lady melania trump's reaction to her husband nearly getting killed. watch. >> i think it's important symbolically. i don't think we should be stopped by somebody that has severe mental problems or whatever his problem was -- >> you going to -- >> she was watching live. it was all over the place. i said, so what was your feeling?

and she was, she can't really even talk about it -- >> she's traumatized. >> which is nice, because that means she likes me. or she loves me. i will say, look, when i went down, she thought the worst had a happened -- elizabeth: okay, that'sty terrifying for the first lady. we'd like your reaction, we've got a brand new nate silver 538 forecast shows president trump has a 611% chance of winning -- 61% chance of winning. also a new harvard-harris poll, trump is leading harris 5532% to to 48% -- 52. and an economist-ugov portion less than 4 out of 10 incompetent voters say harris is qualified to be -- independent voters say harris is qualified to be president. we've got those new polls coming in. what do you say? is the honeymoon period over for kamala harris? >> it may be because she has a policy she has to vouch for. she has to take responsibility for those 11 million immigrants

that came across the border. she has to take responsibility for her long history of being soft on crime as well. look, joe biden gave you $6 a gallon gasoline, kamala harris is going to give you $8 a gallon gasoline. we know we're going to have to work hard. the democrats have an endless amount of money, so the fight is on. elizabeth: senator marshall, good to see you again. that was quite a hearing. now we have got breaking news, an alarming new finding on the economy as we head into november. it is bad for kamala harris and bidenomics. a new gallup poll for the 29th straight month, the majority of americans rate the u.s. economy as poor, 7 off the 01 believe -- out of 10 believe the economy is getting worse. kamala harris released her first if campaign video, but it because not mention president biden at all, no images. and now a possible running mate contender, pete buttigieg, just damaged kamala harris on her key campaign point, abortion.

watch what he said. >> of course, men are also more free in a country where we have a president who stands up for things like access to abortion. elizabeth: really? more free? join me now from house energy and commerce, congresswoman kat cammack. it's good to see you. so pete buttigieg thinks abortion is about making a man more free in america? >> oh, my gosh, liz, bless his heart, as we would say here in the south. i mean, just when you think these people cannot dig that hole deeper for themselves, they manage to. i mean, we know that he is completely out of touch with everyday americans. we know that the entire harris campaign and all the way up into the biden administration, that they don't have a clue what everyday americans are talking about, what they're going through. and so that's why you're seeing those polls reflecting trump leading. it's the because it's about america first, it's about putting americans first and making sure we're creasing the kitchen table shoes whereas you look at the harris campaign, all

they're about is, one, beating trump and identity politics. they want to center single issues and say this is what you need to to care about going into november. as a woman, i i know this can come as a shock to kamala harris, but i care about a lot more than just abortion if concern. elizabeth: and to say that abortion makes men more free is, frankly, disgusting and immoral to the say that. >>s. elizabeth: it is stunning that he said that. >> absolutely. yes. elizabeth: politico is reporting democrats are warning that kamala harris' campaign collapsed in 2020 because she doesn't have add a good answer about the issues americans care about like inflation, the border and crime. let's get your reaction to what voters are saying. watch this. >> how many of you know a black man who has expressed to you that they're committed to voting for donald trump? for the brothers who have told you that or said that to to you, has the emergence of kamala harris

changed that? >> not. elizabeth: okay. so there you have it. that's voter reaction. i've got to back up. you know, kamala harris was campaigning in georgia, but, congresswoman, the new york times is reporting she's rapidly trying to backtrack and is flip-flopping on her far-left positions that are now coming back to haunt a her. can she pull that off? because, you know, the hill reports democrats are growing really anxious she cannot connect with working class and union voters in three swing states, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. that's theired road map to victory, supposedly. >> absolutely, liz. i mean, she cannot hide the fact that she was the most liberal senator during her time in the united states senate. she cannot hide from the fact that she is tied to the failures of the biden administration. everything that she has been tasked with whether it was as the a.i. czar or the border czar, she has failed 100%, and she also has been complicit in the horrible cover-up of joe

biden's devastating health decline. she has a record of failure. trump has a record of success. voters will vote accordingly. elizabeth: thank you, congresswoman cammack. great to have you back on. >> tonight we're going to dig keeper into the polls increasingly showing voters are focused on fixing america. so why is the media a literally helping democrats distract away from what blew up on biden and kamala harris' watch by mimicking their talking points like calling president trump and j.d. vance weird? coming up, joe concha's going to react to the sound you don't want to miss. also tonight, is silicon valley back at it again? new details facebook anding google again accused of censorship in a presidential election year. plus, the latest on u.s. states enacting tougher voter id laws as the looser pandemic-era rules go away. we've got lots of surprises here. and it looks like kamala harris' veepstakes, about to fall apart. morgan ortegas on who now poses

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will help democrats in the fall. i hope it doesn't. so it has no chance of passage in this congress the way it's currently constituted, but they run the table f they get the presidency, if they have the majority in the senate and they have a majority in the house, kiss this country good-bye. kiss our judicial system good-bye. count on new states that'll elect democrat senators. we will turn this into a one-party nation. that's always a been their goal, that's why they've opened up the borders, that's why he's doing this right now. he's telling his supporters, his voters, elect us and we will make sure that the supreme court is partisan and do our bidding, things we can't pass legislatively, we'll do it by court edict. elizabeth: okay. reports claim president biden is catering to the far left and their dark money groups, that this is a supreme court gimmick to fire up the base and get out the vote. is biden not aware that this supreme court made moderate decisions? you know, we're going to show the list in just a second. so is this really about firing

up the base? >> elizabeth, when has truth ever deterred democrats from telling lies? they don't care what the reality of the situation is. heir going to the spin it. they'll tell -- they're going to spin it. they'll try and coeverything through deception to try and convince the american people that donald trump's the danger to democracy when they're the ones that are weaponizing government. they're the ones that are a danger to democracy. their the ones -- they're the ones that'll destroy the court. elizabeth: we also have weird dwarf yesterday by the president. speaker john johnson who opposes what he's saying about -- speaker johnson opposes the supreme court -- watch this. >> speaker johnson said it's dead on arrival. >> [inaudible] >> that he is? >> [inaudible] elizabeth: okay. [laughter] so that's a gaffe. i mean, speaker mike johnson is saying this is a radical proposal that would erode the rule of law. are democrats, you know,

basically wanting to to undermine the supreme court legitimacy just for their own power, so that's what he's putting out there. your final word. >> well, speaker johnson's absolutely correct. that's what democrats want to do. they want to put judicial activists on the supreme court so the things they can't pass legislatively, because even their radical proposals aren't popular enough. they want to have those proposals passed by judicial edict. that's why they want to control all the a courts. elizabeth: senator ron johnson, a pleasure, sir. okay, we've got this news coming in. new evidence that silicon valley censorship, is it back? is it back again ahead of the 2024 election? we've got the details. plus, you've probably heard democrats' new favorite talking point about trump and j.d. vance by now. >> it's weird. >> just plain weird. >> they are weird. >> donald trump and his weirdo running mate -- >> the they're just plain weird. elizabeth: okay. so why is the media picking up on this and not talking about

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elizabeth: welcome back to to "the evening edit." okay, this story, is censorship really back again in the 2024 race? you know, we saw it in the 2020 the race, and now facebook is admitting to a significant censorship controversy. madison alworth standing by live in new york with the latest details. madison, this is quite a story. >> reporter: it really is. meta definitely has a lot of explaining to do. the social media giant says it mistakenly censored the photograph of former president

trump raising his fist in the air after he was shot earlier this month. the social media company saying they experienced an issue with a doctored photo which showed that the secret service agents that you're seeing there were smiling. because of that,s they applied a fact check to the doctored photo, but then both photos were flagged saying in a comment, quote, given the similarities between the are doctored photo and the original a image which are only suddenly although importantly different, our system incorrectly applied that fact check to the real photo too. our teams worked to quickly correct this mistake. but that's not all. meta's a.i. also seems to be making mistakes. the new york post reporting the following that the it asked the a.i. engine, quote, was the trump assassination fictional which to which it responded, quote, there was no real assassination attempt on donald trump. in a ponce to that, met spa disease tells fox business -- meta tell it's fox business rather than have meta a.i. give

incorrect information, they programmed it to simply not answer a questions about it after it happened and instead give a generic response about how it couldn't provide any information. but they acknowledged that in some instances meta if a.i. still gave incorrect answers including that the a assassination didn't even happen. which the company says they are working to quickly address. now, facebook does admit saying that they made these issues, donald trump was quick to take to truth social this morning taking aim at both google and meta if saying in a post, quote: both are facing big backlash over censorship claim. here we go again, another attempt at rigging the election. now, we actually heard some of this on capitol hill today concerning tech censorship. take a listen. >> if the media has shamefully moved on to other stories and google has been caught trying to suppress iconic images of a

bloody donald trump, images showcasing the resolve of our nation in the face of the attack, but the american people have not forgotten and we will not forget. >> reporter: liz, i ran the same question through meta a.i. this morning, and i did see that fixes have been implemented. when i asked about the shooting, it said that, quote, it's being investigated as an a attempted assassination. liz? elizabeth: madison alworth with, always great reporting. welsh you know, hose guys write the algorithms, so they're responsible for it. great reporting from madison alworth. we appreciate you very much. okay, viewers, there's that story. and then there's also this, you know, voter polls increasingly show they want information about who's going to fix america and how. but media's now accused of helping democrats distract away from the problems that blew up on biden and kamala harris' watch by mimicking democrat talking points that republicans are, quote, weird. if watch this. >> some of what he and his running mate are saying, it's

just plain weird. >> on the other side, they're just weird. >> that stuff is weird. they come across weird. >> today start being -- they start being weird. >> i don't think kamala harris is going to pick anyone as weird and creepy as j.d. vance. >> a super weird idea from j.d. vance. >> yeah, i mean, it's quite weird. >> weird. >> just plain weird. >> they are weird. >>st the just they're weird -- it's the just they're weird. and no one wants to sit with the weird people. >> donald trump and his weirdo running mate -- >> just plain weird. elizabeth: okay. let's bring in fox news contributor joe concha, author of the new book about how the democrat party has gotten progressively worse. joe, what do you say to all of this? americans want to to hear about who's going to fix the economy, the border crime, inflation, jobs. they're focus on things like what j.d. vance said about at cat ladies and what he's been saying about single people not having children. he's basically apologizing for. that that stuff was years ago. we know that people dig up their rivals' excellents from years

doing or -- comments from years ago a, but they're not focusing on the policies america cares about, right? >> oh, no, not at all. because they know they can't focus on policies, liz. thanks for having me. you know what one might call weird? kamala harris' positions on basically everything. let's go through the list. she's for ending the fossil fuel industry, for ending all shore drilling -- offshore drilling. she's for abolishing i.c.e. she opposes border wall construction, she supports sanctuary cities, supports giving free health care to those here illegally. she wants to to end all private health insurance, wants to allow violent criminals to vote. she doesn't believe in voter id. she does believe, however, that biological men should compete against biological women, and she's for expanding the supreme court, raising taxes and late-term abortion. i'm pretty sure those are weird positions when you talk to especially voters in swing states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, arizona, nevada -- elizabeth: you just did a great

job going through the list there. i mean, let's get back to socializing a third of the economy. she wants to socialize, basically, health care, have the government run it, get rid of 32226 americans' -- 226 americans' private insurance. she wants to ban u.s -- excuse me, gasoline cars, stop fossil fuel energy generation and nuclear power energy generation. so how about focusing on the list that you just talked about? >> oh, that's just not going to happen, right in and this whole thing, that's a hell of a way to the talk about a military veteran like j.d. vance who out of high school, basically having no money, joins the military, then gets out, graduates ohio state in two years, that's very weird in a good way. graduating college in two years, that's doogie hauser kind of stuff. he goes to yale, writes for the law review, he's now a senator, now donald trump's vice president. if they want to attack that as weird, that's a list of accomplishments and a life story that was only made into a movie by ron howard: roll your dice

and take your chances on the weird thing. it's also weird when you have party members in the democrat party and the media that can say men can get pregnant and especially weird when you bully your own sitting president from running for another four years and install a candidate all while saying you're here to save democracy. that's weird too, liz. elizabeth: yeah. don't you think voters are going to say, wait a second, they didn't vote for kamala harris, justing just walking across the 01-yard line. >> yeah. in to 2020 she didn't receive one vote, in 2024 didn't receive one vote yet here she is as the candidate. you're doing the soviet thing of installing a candidate. it's not your daddy's donkeys anymore, liz. that's for sure. ble elizabeth joe concha, appreciate you very much. always great analysis. good to see you, joe. to -- appreciate it. >> madam vice president, have you chosen your vp yet? have you chosen yet?

>> [inaudible] elizabeth: okay. reuters is reporting kamala harris will name her running mate in about a week. going to campaign with that person in the battlegrounds. top contender, tim waltz, above of minnesota -- tim walz, going all out. now he claims socialist, communist governments are just about a, quote, neighborliness. >> but we can get out there, reach out, make the case. and for one thing, don't ever shy away from our progressive values. one person's socialism is another person's nabellyness. elizabeth: really? -- neighborliness. joining us now, morgan ortagus. morgan, you know a lot about a socialism and communistism overseas. is it really just about a neighborliness? >> that was a gift from the gods, so thank you, governor. i'm sure the trump campaign has already clipped that. on a more serious note, liz, we are literally seeing this week venezuela, a country that should be incredibly oil rich, has been completely destroyed by

socialism. if so many people have had to flee the country because of maduro, and the people who remain are often starving in the streets. we can see example after example around the world. but, you know, it's shocking to to me that the governor could say something like that when we are literally watching in front of our very eyes our neighbors to the south falling apart. their country falling apart because of socialist policies. elizabeth: you know, and we talk to voters or who are in america from asia, from china, they're really panicked about what they see in the democratic party going socialist-communist, morgan. >> yeah. if socialism was so great, why does everybody from socialist countries in latin america, for example, come to the united states? why do people do everything they can to flee china and come to the united states? i was just at the southern border a few months ago, last fall, in yuma, arizona. the first four people in line were from syria with. the next three or four were from

china. and we're seeing chinese people -- listen, we have no clue if they're running from their government or if there are nefarious intentions. if you go to an american embassy around the country and see who's lined up to get a visa to try and get a green card to try and come here, then go to the russian embassy, hen go to the chinese embassy. let's compare and contrast. they're trying to get into the united states of america. they don't want to go to these type of countries. elizabeth: kamala harris is having a lot of problems with her running mate list. pete buttigieg, we just played, you know, sound from pete buttigieg earlier this hour. he just damaged kamala harris on her key campaign point of abortion claiming, quote, it makes men more free. that's pete buttigieg saying abortion makes men if free. and now you've got pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, he's emerging add a potential contender too. there's nasty news resurfacing about a sexual harassment scandal involving his former top aide and top member of his cabinet. he abruptly stepped down last

year. he stepped down, morgan, just three weeks after governor shapiro's administration if paid out nearly $300,000 to settle claims from a worker in shapiro's office who alleged he made repeated sexual advances toward her, an spoke openly and lewdly about her, ore staff -- other staff member ands if a female state senator. >> well, i guess belief in women has been thrown out the window, liz. l i've long said that i feel like it doesn't matter who you put in, the president she or the vice presidency in terms of the democratic party's running mates, as long as they continue the policies of both president obama and president biden, as long as they continue those foreign policies especially under the biden-harris regime of the last four years, you will continue to see war break out around the world. you will continue to see chaos. it's why today as you and i speak, liz, we are worried that

we are on the edge of a major war in the middle east between israel and hezbollah because of hezbollah killing those children over the weekend on the play ground. this stuff just kid not happen under -- did not happen under president donald jump -- donald trump. it's no longer a joke under biden-harris. i think everybody has to be incredibly concerned about what she would do as leader of the united states of america. elizabeth: the trump campaign just announced both trump and vance will hold a rally in atlanta, georgia, this weekend at the same venue where where vice president harris will campaign tonight. whoever kamala harris chooses, morgan, they're going to have to take on scorching attacks on kamala harris' record like this. watch. >> she was a bad prosecutor. she put -- he was a prosecutor of black people. if she put -- she put thousands and thousands of black people in jail over marijuana. but when it came to big crime, murders and everything else, she

was weak. she was a bad prosecutor in san francisco. she led the cashless bail in all of the different things, she was the first of all of the bad prosecutors that have allowed -- you know, if you look at the 25 top cities, they're basically all a democrat. the prosecutors are weak. she was the early -- she destroyed -- she's a san francisco liberal. elizabeth: what do you think can, morgan? >> i think this is a case, the right messaging that president trump needs to, needs to do between now and november. listen, the republican party doesn't need to talk about anything about kamala harris other than her record, other than the fact that she flip-flops on policies. the last four years have been disastrous for the american family. they've been particularly disastrous for minority if communities as well. and so that's -- what president trump did last night in the interview is what i say, that's the line of attack that he should have going into november. there's plenty of things to to create side from a policier if spect i have. stay there -- perspective.

elizabeth: morgan if ortegas, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth coming up, right as democrats demanded the irs do more audits of you and your family, we've got a new report irs workers have not been paying their own taxes to uncle sam. now, can you guess by how much? 100,000, 1 million, 50 million? americans for tax reform'sover norquist knows the answer. we're going to talk to him. plus, democrats, you know, they're all about protecting democracy. ♪ >> it's critical to our democracy. >> the profound threat he poses to our democracy -- >> it even threatens democracy. elizabeth: so why aren't they all for tougher voter id laws? we've got an update on which statements are strengthening those laws and which are not. but first, we want to talk to our friends dagen and charlie hurt in for sean. they've got at hot hour coming up on "the bottom and line." dagen and sean. charlie hurt --

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elizabeth: welcome back. okay, we're less than a hundred days to the election. you know, there's lots of fears about protecting the vote as republican state lawmakers and the trump team is pushing back hard against the looser pandemic-era voter rules to make them go away in states like nevada and oregon.

let's welcome to the show gop strategist ford o'connell and main street columnist for "the wall street journal," fox news contributor bill mcgurn. great to have you both back on, both of you. first to you, ford. you know, even battleground swing states like ohio and georgia are now among the 14 states that have tougher voter id laws, ford. what do you think? >> well, hat tip to those 14 states that want to make sure that the people who vote are who they say they are and they're eligible to vote. but if you look at those 14 states, you'll realize 13 of the 14 states are run by republicans, and north carolina which is run by a democratic governor is one where the legislature's very pro-republican. what concerns me though, liz, is there's a couple of other battleground states that are a going to decide this election, pennsylvania, nevada and minnesota, and they have no voter id laws whatsoever is. elizabeth: yeah. so what do you think of what ford just said, bill? >> i agree with him. look, it's common sense. the vote is very important. we can ask for -- we can ask for

photo id for so many things. think ten years ago a cvs was asking it for nail polish. they backed down after consumer protest, but we don't put it on one of the most important acts of citizenship, voting? i'm against actually expanding the time period for voting, but i think we lost that battle. so i just want it to be with integrity, and ids are required for so much else of american life, i don't see why it's not require for one of our highest civic duties. elizabeth: yeah. so, i mean, the factors that existed in 2020, ford, what bill is just saying, you know, the unprecedented vote by mail, even hoe that's going away in florida, it's still around. you know, it can't be overlooked that biden won in 2020 the by 811,000 votes across concern 811,000 votes across 4 states --

81,000. >> and we're talking about georgia, arizona and wisconsin in particular. you realize very quickly that they've changed their voting laws since 20 to-- 2020 the because a lot of americans have lostaith or the last two decades in whether or not we actually have verifiable and safe elections. but what's crazy, liz, is you still have 14 states and the district of columbia which are blue strongholds that have no voting id whatsoever, and it is common sense. yet the democrats in congress earlier this year shot down the ability to have voter id nationally and the also have proof of citizenship. elizabeth: yeah. you know, what ford just said. bill, democrats oppose if voter id legislation calling it racist. look at the long list of things that the you were just talking about. why is it -- is it racist that you require id to adopt a pet? is it racist to have id to fly on airplanes or open a bank account, you know, or rent a hotel room? pew research, their polling, bill, found the majorityover of

americans -- majority of americans do support voter id including 69% of democrats and 95% of republicans. so 7 out of 10 democrats say, yes, you should have voter id. what's the problem? >> that pew research poll was very tensionive. and what i took -- extensive. what i took away from it, people overwhelmingly supported ids to vote. also backup paper ballots. they supported things that would make it easier to vote like a national holiday for election day and 2-week period for early voting. but they also supported measures, they want it to be honest, integrity. i don't see how you can oppose it. everything is racist these days, and it's ridiculous to think that asking people for an id that you would demand if you wanted to buy a 6-pack of beer or something is absurd. elizabeth: yeah. so what do you think of that, you know, voter id is racist when you need it to, you know,

rent a car, you know? buy a 6-pack, as a bill said? >> liz, it's the bigotry of low expectations. the democrats basically don't want to have voter id because they want to to import a new set of voters that you don't check whether or not they are. d that's based on the 1993 motor voter law where, essentially, you can be illegal, get a driver's license, and you're registered to vote in several state states in this country before anyone if even challenges whether you're eligible to vote. elizabeth: ford o'connell, bill mcgurn, we'll have you back on, we hope, soon. >> thank you, e-mac. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: -- new reports, a bombshell. you know, irs workers have not been paying up to uncle9 sam. they've been evading tax right as a democrats demand the irs do more audits of you. you're going to -- you won't believe just how much they've been evading on. can you guess the amount? 100,000, 1 million, 50 million? americans for tax reform's grover norquist knows the

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chuck schumer demanding and got more irs audits of you. the amount is stunning, bringing in americans for tax reform president, grover norquist, what is the amount. >> over 50 million, joni ernst senator, from iowa is a true hero of taxpayers, she got the ippei inspector general to will do the study -- toed do study, irs has been given almost 80 billion more money no reform no taxpayer protections and single vote that gave them that money was kamala harris. this is a presidential issue. the irs agents are not paying their own taxes, some 500 with massive problems including not paying taxes but other things, fired. good, they were brought back. it is tough to get fired but they still brid bring

you back at the irs, this agency has run amuck and needed more discipline and more people getting fired. elizabeth: this is a presidential race issue. you say senator kamala harris was the vote, that broke the tie whatever it was to get more irs audits more money to the irs. so the audit boy treasury inspector general for tax administration, finds nearly 6,000 irs workers, and irs contractors owe close to 50 million in overdue taxes, 150 thousand government workers owe 1 .5 billion. >> as vice president she -- there was a 50/50 split in senate, she voted yes we'll have more money for the irs to hire more people with no

reforms. this is one of the stories that the inspector general has found out. the irs has been destroying documents and has thousands of weapons and most of the time when the weapons go off it's my mistake, people who take weapons training don't, each of the reports comes out and government and irs ignores what the american people can read, is wrong with the irs. and kamala harris says, you know what they need more money. elizabeth: they get more money to hire tens of thousands more irs auditors and agents, right? senator joni ernst saying they will audit more hard working, working class and middle class americans, she says that irony is that americans are paying the irs workers paychecks while they are avoiding taxes. >> yes. that is outrageous. and if it was not washington

d.c. you wouldn't believe it were possible but it is. and it is happening. kamala harris doesn't care. elizabeth: all right that is where we're at, grover norquist, that is quite a story we appreciate you so much. >> thank you. elizabeth: th thank you for joining us that is a presidential race issue on more irs audits of americans, senator harris was a tie breaker vote on that. i'm elizabeth macdonald thank you so fortune for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. monday night let's show promo, we have a great show i think friday night team, the crypto campaign, 8 p.m. eastern. you will not want to miss it, exciting stuff, president trump realliments -- really wants to make u.s. a crypto capital of the world, now time for "the bottom line" with dagen and charlie. dagen: thank you, emackism