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recession are wrong. >> kamala harris said she was the last person in the room when the afghan decision was made by biden. she owns it. we had it in place, and the embarrassment you see today is them parade being around with the equipment we left behind. >> that firm -- number of times companies have been saying the economy's going to slow down has been dropping and dropping and dropping, and it's at the lowest point in two and a half years. >> she's going to bet up on business -- beat up on business with. as far as i know, no one has tax, spent or prosecuted their way to prosperity. ♪ ♪ stuart: narcissists' anthem -- lauren: is it your favorite song? stuart: yes, absolutely. lauren: no, it's not. stuart: it's one of them. morning, everybody, it's 1 11:00 eastern time, thursday, august the 15th. okay, moments ago we reported on the possible sentencing of

donald trump to prison on september the 818th. 18th. we just learned that a trump's lawyers have asked the judge for a delay in sentencing, is and we don't have his ruling on that at this point. september 18th, a vote -- date to remember. will he or won't he be sentenced to prison? if got it. i see green all over the place this morning. dow's up 400, nasdaq's up 300. very favorable retail sales figures reported. it's good news for the economy, and it's turned out to be good muse for the market as well. show me big tech, please. i'm pretty sure that all of the- they're up. amazon, nvidia, apple, microsoft up. alphabet though, that's google, down just 48 cents. that's it. check the 10-year treasury yield, going up significantly. you're back to3.93%. a week ago we were down to 3.78, now back up again. now this. the democrats' convention starts next monday in chicago. events in new york city last

night suggest the the convention will have a big problem with hamas. violent demonstrators caused thousands of dollars' worth of damage at a democrat party event attended by new york's democrat mayor and missouri's democrat -- new york's state governor. in ferguson, missouri,s another demonstration the injured a police officer. one of those arrested was a delegate to the convention. he has since resigned, but it leaves open the question of whether other delegates hold similar opinions and will bring them to the floor inside the arena. let's not sugar coat this. it is pro-hamas; that is, it supports a terror organization which is deeply anti-semitic. that's the problem for a party which has long claimed support for the majority of jewish voters. violent disruption at the convention would inevitably hearken back to the riots at the chicago convention in 1968. in that election year, the election that year, richard nixon campaigned on law and

order and won. to satisfy the pro-hamas bloc in her party, harris could do a major flip-flop, but she would then be supporting a terror group that murders jews and tax hostages. oh, dear. she's stuck. and if the violence in new york last night hits chicago next week, law and order will resurface as an issue. donald trump is the law and order candidate. third hour of "varney" starts now. ♪ muck ♪ ♪ ♪ stuart: outkick's clay travis joins me now, that's the gentleman on the right-hand side of the screen. clay, could donald trump come out from the democrats' convention as the law and order candidate? >> he should. look, i think there are three major issues here -- thanks for having me on -- and i keep hammering it because it is the election. ebc, stuart, economy, border, crime. trump has to stay focused on

those three issues. if he does, kamala and biden are on the wrong side of all three of those. he's going to win. if he gets distracted and goes down the rabbit hole and chases other shadows in the political campaign, then he gives kamala harris a chance. trump is right on all the issues, he just has to drill down and point out how wrong she is, directly the same as joe biden. and i think you're right, what's going to the happen next week in chicago, the law, the disorder, the lack of any kind of basic civility among the left wing of the democrat party, i think, is going to turn off a lot of voters, particularly people that are likely to the recognize that hamas is a terror organization and that is there is a deeply anti semitic base of the democratic party which is why josh shapiro wasn't picked as vp. stuart: pollster nate silver thinks democrats hold the edge in the election right now. watch this. >> i think harris could be a slight favorite.

fox news poll's pretty good for trump, that'll help when we update tomorrow, but there will be more surprises is and, two, polls have been wrong before. in both of the last two general elections, they've underestimated trump. stuart: a new poll says top issues are the economy and immigration, and those are, clay, trump's strongest areas, right? >> yes. and also i think, ultimately, stuart, look, i'm a sports guy as well, as you know. i don't believe hat big ten states, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin, are going to break for a far-left, liberal like kamala harris and tim walz over donald trump and j.d. vance. that's where i ultimatelyly come back on. again, 48%, i think, of this electorate is white, non-college graduates, and those are overwhelmingly the people to who are going to decide this election in the big ten states. i think trump is going to to win nevada, i think he's going to win arizona, i think he's going to win georgia. that means he would only need to win one of the three big ten

states that i just laid out. i think he will which is why, ultimately, i think trump's going to win, but it's tighter now than it was against biden. stuart: well, you are a sports guys, clay, so i have to bring this to your attention. premier league soccer comes back tomorrow. [laughter] i don't know whether you follow it. but what's your prediction for the season? >> yeah, you know what? you're probably way more of an expert on that than i am, but i did, the last time i was in london, go watch a game for the first time ever, and i found it to be absolutely incredible. i think i'll probably go with manchester united in general, that the has been a decent pick over the years. you tell me, is that a good or bad pick this year? stuart: what was so incredible about the game you went to watch in london? the fans? the entertainment value? the pitch? whatever. if. >> it reminded me, i'm a huge college football fan. the passion of the fans for their individual teams was

really what kind of blew me away. it took me back to what i think is the best sport in the united states, which is college football in the big ten and the sec. the environment, just -- what i always say is if you never been to an sec football game, southeastern conference, it's not the game itself which is going to transport you to the a different universe, it's the pomp, the circumstance, the pageantry, everything that surrounds it. that's what i felt like when i went to the an e epl game in london a couple years ago. stuart: do did you pay an arm and a leg for your ticket? [laughter] >> i did. i wanted to have good seats. i was also stunned -- i'll tell you what's different, they wouldn't allow the visiting crowds, like, they had actual, or like, you know, barriers to keep the opposing crowds from the home team there because they were so concerned about what might happen, i guess, if the fans got too close. i've never seen that before even in the sec. stuart: tribalism is a regrettable part of premier legal soccer, that's the way it is. >> yes.

stuart: clay, good to see you again, we'll have you back soon. >> i appreciate it. stuart: sure thing. let 'em go, look at this, whoa, 436 points up for the dow industrials, better than 1. almost up 22 on the nasdaq -- 2%. gary kaltbaum joins me now. i understand that you are out of tech. are you back in? we've been -- >> we've been buying back. we sold a ton of it july 11th, the high, and the rest of it a few days later. we missed a 28% drop in the semis, i think about 15 in the nasdaq. we're happy now. we love technology. we think institutions now are gobbling the stocks back up instead of distributing 'em, and let's hope it continues. we keep fingers crossed on a daily basis. i can tell you this year we're still up 70-80 on nvidia though we don't own it right now. we bought back into meta, up about 40 on that. we're looking to get into others, but we need a little bit

more confirmation. on the whole, real good action on tuesday and another good confirmation today if it sticks. stuart: i think a lot is riding on nvidia's report which comes out, i believe, later this month. do you want to give us your forecast? hen forbid they -- heaven forbid they disappoint, right? >> nvidia really drives the semis and technology. my biggest issue is that the predictions for it are up in the trees, so the expectations are way up there. and you know what happens, even though they can have great numbers, if they don't beat expectations, stocks can get hit. so, again, i don't own it right now. i wish i bought at the low last monday, but such is life. it'll dictate some policy when it comes out next week and, hopefully, the numbers are good. stuart: real fast question, does the election have that much importance for the market at this point? if. >> i'm going d going forward, gargantuan. you have one sides that is calling for massive tax increases and confiscation of

wealth from the economy with things like unrealized capital gains and raising long-term capital gains from 20244% -- 20 to 44%. and all of a sudden comes out lowering taxes on tips and another that wants to keep taxes low, and i think that's huge. we cannot continue on this trajectory of gargantuan increase in government spending, deficits, debt and reach and scope like we have been seeing over the last four years. stuart: i think you got that right, gary. see you again soon. gary kaltbaum, everyone. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: lauren, what's with tesla this morning? lauren: huge gains, up 6.5%. they're outperforming with the broader market, but this is a stock that's down 18% on the year. and baird is saying their energy business where you get your home outfitted, you know, solar products, etc., to be the battery, basically, for your devices, it's completely undervalued, not priced into the stock. they see tesla going to 280 a share. stuart: and how about nike? i think they're up today.

lauren: yeah, up nicely, 3.5%. stuart: yep. lauren: the return of the billionaire p bill actman, as a stake stakeholder. he hasn't been since 20217. that could spark a turn-around at nike. ackman's pershing square owns 3 million shares. they haven't revealed plans for that investment, but you've got to imagine they'll do something. great week for nike with the olympics' after-effect, it's down, it's lost a quarter of it value this year considering the gain we've seen this -- stuart: robinhood, a big bank saying buy it. lauren: deutsche bank. they see shares going to $24, 20% upside. they call growth potential, quote, exceptionally attractive. think about it like this, their trading volumes are up across. equities, options, crypto. it's popular. stuart: got it. thanks, lauren. coming up, mayor eric adams, new york city's mayor, calling for an end to new york's sanctuary city policy. are we finally starting to embrace common sense?

a minnesota grandmother was thrown in jail for violating tim walz's covid lockdown rules. she says walz is a tyrant in disguise. she'll make her case, she's on the show. it's been three years since the taliban took control of afghanistan. they held a parade yesterday with equipment that america left behind. will anyone ever take accountability for this? congressman darrell issa is next. ♪ ♪ ameritrade is now part of schwab. bringing you an elevated experience, tailor-made for trader minds. ♪ go deeper with thinkorswim: our award-wining trading platforms ♪ unlock support from the schwab trade desk— our team of passionate traders who live and breathe trading. ♪ and sharpen your skills with an immersive online education crafted just for traders. ♪ all so you can trade brilliantly. ♪

stuart: the taliban held a military parade in afghanistan with the weapons and equipment we left behind with the great debacle withdrawal. yes, they were celebrating three years since the withdrawal. greg palkot joins me. has the white house commented on this at all? many. >> reporter: not as of yet, stuart, but the state the

department simply saying any new weapons systems for the taliban from the u.s., well, that's a long way off. on display, as you noted, at a huge military parade at the old u.s. bagram air base, hundreds of seemingly brand new former u.s. armor personnel carrier withs rolling by approving officials. the taliban seized kabul after american troops withdrew starting august 15th, 202221. yes, three years ago. an estimated $7 billion worth of vehicle, tanks, guns, ammo, even choppers and planes were left behind, a sign of how fast the u.s. was forced to the leave the country. some vehicles were actually put out of commission by u.s. troops, but it seems the afghans promptly fixed them up again. perhaps really sticking in the craw of u.s. officials to see rows of humvees on parade. those are the jeep-like go-to the vehicles for american forces in afghanistan and iraq are.

now these hand me downs seem to have some satisfied new owners. again, all this underscoring the rushed, chaotic, wasteful nature of the u.s. exit, and that included some desperate scenes of afghan nationals trying to get on u.s. planes plus a suicide bombing that left close to 20200 dead including -- 200 including 13 u.s. service members. taliban leaders can take small pleasure from your vehicles, they run an afghanistan that is internationally isolated, wracked by terror and economic disaster as they isolate their own women under harsh islamic law. stu. stuart: greg palkot, thanks very much, indeed. let's bring in congressman darrell issa, republican from crag california. it's been three years. s has anyone been held responsible? will anyone be held accountable? >> well, the first one is, no, no one's been held accountable. and for the literally hundreds of thousands of marines that i represent out of camp pendleton

who have served in afghanistan, they're still owed answers they haven't gotten. for the 13 families, gold star families particularly of that suicide bombing and that chaotic withdrawal, they haven't gotten accountable -- accountability. but we're not done. the fact is we have high hope that is in a trump administration the books will be opened, and there'll be a fair accounting and some accountability including people who made those decisions who shouldn't have made them, many at the state department who won't take responsibility for the lack of planning and the chaotic withdrawal. stuart: just one thing that i don't understand, we're watching video of all those humvees rolling by and the helicopters going by. why were they not blown up? >> stuart, the reason is simple but sad. on one hand, the department of defense, the military people said they're not holding up, they're collapsing it once we took away their overhead support that we provided.

on the other hand, the state department said, no, no, it's all going to be great, we're going to withdrawal, and they're going to last a long time. those -- that dichotomy if between reality and the state department is a big part of the accountability not just for the gold star families, but for the future of men and women who serve either at the state department or in harm's way as members of the military. they deserve better than they got there, is and we need to make sure they get it next time. stuart: congressman, google says iranian-backed groups are stepping up fish phishing attacks in the u.s., targeting people connected to the trump, biden and harris campaigns. you're on the house foreign affairs committee. what do you know about iran hacking into our campaigns, and what can we do about it? >> stuart, there's a lot we can do about it, but it requires we have the will to do it. iran is a distant second to china when it comes to hacking, but both of them do it for nefarious purposes, and we need to stop it. and to stop it, we need to have

a response. you can't simply say we're going to put up firewalls and try to defend. in the first world war, that was what the imagine know line produced. it produced the fact that you simply if fly over that, actually, second world war. so we do need to understand that today you have to have offense, not just defense when it comes to cyber. we have the capability, we need to have a willingness to use it. stuart: congressman darrell issa, thanks for joining us. we'll see you again soon. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: an army intelligence officer has admitted to selling america's military information. ashley, who bought it? ashley: well, it appears the chinese government. 24-year-old corbin schultz, an intelligence officer a with the u.s. army, has indeed pled guilty to selling critical military documents to the an individual in hong kong believed to be tied to beijing. now, some of the information that he sold included a document

explaining how the u.s. would apply if lessons learned from the russia-ukraine war to taiwan. and american intelligence on the chinese military. this was very critical, secret documents. prosecutors say the intelligence officer received around $42,000 from his chinese handler. schultz, by the way, was stationed at fort campbell along the kentucky-tennessee border. he will be sentenced in january and faces up to 65 years in prison. stu. stuart: got it. thanks very much, ash. it's time we checked out a list of the winners among the dow 30. put 'em on your screen, and you can see that that list is headed by cisco systems, up 7%. walmart's up 6%. amazon, nike both up 3. so is intel. finally just above $20 the a share. check out the 2-year treasury yield. it's gone back up. very significantly, actually. 4.1 is -- 4.11%. that's a very big move in the

bond market. senate majority leader schumer called in a billionaire investor to help harris. ashley -- no. we're going to tell you who that billionaire investor is. the president of columbia university suddenly resigned her position. it comes months after she let pro-hamas protesters take over the campus. jon levine has a lot to the say about that. jon is next. ♪ ♪ (♪) you know, you only get one body. it might be the perfect size to do this.

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stuart: if you're wondering why we've got such a strong rally on wall street, the simple answer is retail sales went up 111% over last -- 1 over last month, and that's a big deal. it's a very successful retailing operation. take us through all the retailers and how they are doing. lauren: solid sales from commerce but also walmart. shares hit a record, over $74, after they lifted their full-year forecast again. they're seeing strength across all product categories. online up 22 percent and all income groups whether it's lore income or hire income. -- lower or higher. they're firing on all cylinders. as you can see, look, these two solid report cards from walmart and retail sales in general lifting almost all boats today. stuart: how about ulta?

lauren: warren buffett's berkshire hathaway bought up a roughly $260 million stake in ulta beauty. they compete with sephora? they got the buffett stamp of approval. stuart: chicago has issued a permit if for an anti-israel march on the dnc. performly, i think it's a pro-hamas rally, and it should be stated like that. mike tobin in chicago. what's the rationale behind that decision? >> reporter: stuart, the city says it's about a public safety, but as the demonstrators bring their causes to the city of chicago, this pro-israel group says they're not getting the same treatment as the pro-palestinian groups. the pro-palestinian coalition to to march on the dnc is upset about the details in the permit that just got approved, but still they got a permit to march within sight and sound of the united center. >> they gave us sight and sound because we organize and we demanded that they give it to

us. >> reporter: now, the israeli-american council, the council -- israeli-american council, their permit was denied. the chicago department of transportation wrote assembly would be a direct interference with the planned activity and create a public safety issue. the same jewish organization requested to buy advertising space on digital billboards at o'hare and midway for when the delegates arrive. the ad shows the faces of israeli-americans held hostage in gaza and the slogan bring them home. fox news has obtained e-mails in which the department of aviation denied the ad buy citing their advertising guidelines that prohibit profanity, violence and disparagement. >> they granted anti-israel, an anti-israel group's, their rights to express themselves under the first amendment, and he was not granted the right of pro-american and pro-israel groups to express our first amendment rights. >> reporter: now, the told fox news the reason the ad

buy was denied was because it contained a qr code that linked to the material that the city determined was disparaging, profane or violet. the irk ac says -- iac says there was no qr code in the ads they submitted. the ia a c did get one yes, and that is a 45-minute slot to speak at a pre-planned stage where protesters can make their voices heard, and that is about a half mile from this location on the other side of the united center. stuart? stuart: mike tobin, thank you very much, indeed. now this, the president of columbia university has resigned her position. the announcement follows the widespread pro-hamas if protests at that school. jon levine joins me now. what took her so long? >> good riddance to bad rubbish, that's all i have to say. i mean, i would have brought some champagne on set, but your price said it'd be an fcc violation. we all saw what happened at columbia with the tent cities,

and she did -- her problem, she tried to play both sides of the fence, bring law and order to campus and famously brought the nypd on, but she also toll rated it. and she also tried to sort of say, well, this is fine. you know, you can't take half measures with this kind of stuff. you can't take half measures with anti-semitism. you either throw in your lot with those people, or you can roundly condemn it. and i hope that the next president of columbia understands that and responds in a more forceful and forthright way. stuart: if those demonstrators had gone after black people or any other minority, they'd be in prison -- >> don't even need to finish that sentence. stuart: they'd be in prison. total dual standard here. >> right. and at columbia, it's coming from inside the house. these are not outside agitators. a lot of these are students on campus radicalized by columbia's own professors, and we saw some of the things those professors were on record saying. it's not enough -- you won't be able to just bring in the nypd every time. you need to fix the problem in

your own house. hopefully, someone will do that. stuart: pro-hamas protesters disrupted a campaign event for kamala harris in new york city last night. fought with police. it was a rally. chanting, setting off smoke bombs, 14 arrested. jon, when will harris, if ever, address the pro-hamas crowd? i mean, there's a convention coming up next week. they're going to be there. >> well, it's tough, because the pro-hamas crowd is now an integral part of the democratic coalition that she is relying on to get elected. so she can't -- she's in a similar position to columbia's prime minister but there's also, you know, jews are going to vote democrat by 890% if -- 80. and it's really not possible to thread the needle. you cannot make a deal with evil, is and that's what they're trying to do here. stuart: separately, there was a demonstration, pro-hamas demonstration in ferguson, missouri. one police officer was ini

injuredded. injured. one of the people arrested was going to be a delegate for the democrats at next week's chicago convention. okay. now, he's resigned from that, he's not going to do it. but it brings up the question, supposing there are other people inside the convention who are pro-hamas and could disrupt the hell out of that -- >> oh, there will be. and i fully expect there to be major pro-hamas disruptions because they're screaming genocide joe, but it's also genocide kamala. she owns everything president biden has done and stood for. it's the her administration too, and i fully expect them to be very vocal about it. and we'll see how she sand -- handles it. stuart: separately, the mayor of new york, eric adams, he's calling for changes to the city's sanctuary city law. i'm quoting now, people who are violent new yorkers should not be allowed to stay in our city. we need to alter refeet violent offenders -- repeat violent offenders. that is not a full embrace of rejecting sanctuary city. that just means getting rid of a

few guys arrested. >> right. it's really a bit of misdirection to say i'm against sanctuary cities, if you're a violent criminal, we're getting you out of here. you should be deported already. that should already, so it's not just the violent ones. you know, we're talking about billions and billions of dollars that new yorkers have to the pay in taxes to field and and house these people -- to feed and clothe and house these people. i have to ask you, stuart, if i break into your home and refuse to leave, am i really a migrant? because there's really another word i would use for that. everyone here who is here illegally is breaking the law. and i don't see any long-term sliewtion except that they ultimately need to leave. institute stouter however, trump says he begins mass deportations on the day of his inauguration. can you with deport 8 million people? >> i mean, the short answer to that is probably not, but i will say it's not about a 8 million people on day one. i think you start with deporting

who you can deport on day one, and maybe you don't start with 8, maybe you start with11 million. and then when that's done with, we see the landscape afterwards. and i don't think you ever get to a point where everyone's getting deported. but certainly, like, some deportations need to happen, no question. stuart: the obviously bad guys need to go. jon, thanks for joining us. good stuff. quick programming note. the democrat national convention kicks off on monday many chicago. this show will be there live from monday through thursday. "the bottom line" will also be there live, 6 p.m. eastern. and fox business will begin airing full speeches starting at 7 p.m. eastern each night. staying in new york city, turns out the scaffolding that covers storefronts isn't just ugly, it's extremely expensive. if extraordinary story. have you got me some numbers, please, ashley? ashley: i do. expensive for the businesses stuck underneath. it's hard to find a street in manhattan that isn't covered by scaffolding. not only, as you say, are they

ugly, but the urban mess is costing the businesses underneath a lot of lost revenue. a study conducted by new york city and mastercard reveals that mastercard holders spend 3900-9500 less each month at businesses with sidewalk shes, restaurants and bars reporting 3.5% to nearly 10% decrease in weekly transactions after the scaffolding goes up. new york's get sheds down program, yes, there is one, it's forcing builders -- owners to complete their repairs as a quickly as possible. and since launching the program, more than 170 miles of sidewalk sheds have actually come down from city streets. but there's many, many miles more left to go. stu. stuart: that's certainly true. i see them every single day. ashley, thanks a lot. coming up, npr says young black voters are becoming ig, increasingly conservative.

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the biden administration has not exactly been a friend to the crypto industry. but to your question, senate majority leader chuck schumer is reportedly on a mission to win back the industry's support for kamala harris. of course, it would help if we knew if exactly where harris stands on the issue. last night schumer hosted a group called crypto for harris. and, by the way, it was introduced by billionaire mark cuban. also schumer is expected to support a bill from senate democrats that would expand the federal government's ability to oversee digital as a sets -- assets. the legislation, as you can imagine, has received lukewarm response so far from the industry. is so it's kind of hard to see if the crypto industry will respond to harris' pitch. we shall see. stuart: we shall see. thanks, ash a. back in 2022 is a grandmother in minnesota opened up her restaurant during the covid lockdown. she was sentenced to 900 days in jail for --9 0 days in jail for violating lockdown orders. lisa hanson joins me now.

welcome to the show. it's great to have you with us. start at the beginning and tell us the story of when you opened the restaurant during the lockdown. tell us what happened. >> thank you so much for having me. yes. in the beginning, the second lockdown of walz's, unconstitutional a, illegal lockdown, mind you, my -- we were, we had two choices as a business. you can't survive under lockdown. i either, i had two choices, either close my business permanently, walk away, be done or open up fully. i thought about that that, and i thought, you know, it's our right to be open, to do business. my employees needed a paycheck, i needed the income, etc., etc. our well-loved business, right? and so i decided i'm going to open up fully. immediately, within 24 hours, the state was -- had thrown every resource they had at me to get me to shut back down. and when i did not shut back down, they, of course, then piled lawsuits against me -- filed lawsuits existence me.

i bea believe it was -- i believe it was five civil cases and two criminal cases. >> and did you go to prison? >> i did. i did, first, of course, i had a trial. i had a jury of six that was not allowed to hear my defense in any way, shape or form. i was not permitted to the offer my defense to the jury, constitutional, statutory and case law, money of it. if i had -- and i did try -- the judge, judge joseph a.butell, he threatened me with contempt of court. so we decided that was not going to be our strategy, we did not want to go that way. so the jury never heard my defense. i was convicted. i believe it was seven counts. most of those counts were with violating the governor's emergency executive orders, and one count of public nuisance, believe it or not. stuart: what's been the effect on your family and your business from your prison sentence and the judgment against you?

>> yeah. the business is gone. the business was destroyed because of all of that, that we went through. we -- so, unfortunately, well-loved business and gone just like that. if. stuart: what do you think -- >> you know, you can never -- stuart: what's a your opinion of governor walz? >> oh, my. [laughter] you know, i know firsthand, we know as minnesotans what governor walz is capable of. he is a tyrant of tyrants. he is radical. he is -- [audio difficulty] stuart: ah. you know, that sometimes happens in live television, you just lose the signal just as your guest is really getting into it. we apologize for this. we'll try to get her back, and we'll see if we can be successful doing that. but that was quite a story the that lisa hanson had to tell us and an interesting characterization of governor walz -- ah, i think she's back. yes, i think you are. lisa, are you back with us? yes, you are back with us, okay. you were just finishing off the sentence where you were saying

that governor walz is a tyrant. you want to finish the sentence? >> yes. yes, i apologize for that. he is a tyrant of tyrants. he's radical, he's extreme. there is no good in that man. he does not care about the republicans, he does not care about the people. the state of minnesota, we know that firsthand. stuart: okay. lisa, i'm sorry, i'm out of time but, look, thank you very much for bringing your story to us today. it's valuable and we appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: thank you. >> thank you. stuart: you know what we do know? -- now? we show you the dow 30. the dow is up 4500 points and we've -- 450 points and we've got 25 winners and 4 losers, that's it. they're all up, just about all of them are up. this, donald trump ripped into kamala harris and gavin newsom. he's making the case that they both ruined california. trump says if harris is elected, she'll do the same to america. leo terrell will take that on, so to speak. we'll be back. jen x.

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stuart: donald trump blamed kamala harris and gavin newsom for ruining california. >> and the reason they're coming is because people like gavin new judge crumb and people like kamala are saying, come, come. they're destroying our country.

we can't do it. we can't let it continue. you're not going to have a country anymore. stuart: okay. look who's here, leo terrell. he is a california guy -- [laughter] and i've got a question. i've got a statement. there is no way california's going to vote for trump. right? >> i want to be -- i'm a truth teller, you're absolutely correct. california will not vote for trump. but i will give you three facts. trump will get the highest number of votes ever for any republican in the last 20 years, and regarding trump's statement, he's absolutely correct. stu, there's been 160,000 registered republicans added to the rolls, 103,000 democrats have left in california, and there's a proposition 36 to repeal that awful prop 47 because that prop 47 allows criminals to the steal under $950. so i would submit to you that trump policies are working in california, and we're going to make those changes.

they may win california, but trump is making inroads in california. stuart: okay. i want to take a look at this headline. it's, from of all places, npr. here it is. young black voters are becoming more conservative than their parents. the article a credits trump with increasing outreach to black voters and promoting ideas that help black americans. by the way, leo, do we still have a bet? you are saying that trump will get 18 of the black vote nationally, i say he won't. is the bet still on? >> that's right. that bet and dinner is still on. and let me give you some facts. black americans under 30 are not drinking the democrat kool-aid. stu, the democrats want black americans to think that we're still in 1965. that we're in the civil rights movement. and that is totally rejected by young black americans. trump has basically offered the same policies for all americans. they want, they want to have a job. they want to buy a house. they want a secure border. and what black american, young

black americans are saying is they're rejecting the democrat kool-aid. they don't believe that they wake up with racism. i want to be very clear on this, there is no systemic racism in america. racism, yes, but not government-sponsored racism. that is gone. and that does not work in buying young black americans. they reject the racism card, and they're going to trump economic policies. stuart: trump economic policies because trump's economic policies worked very well for black americans last time around. i think i'm right in se aing that. in fact -- saying that. in fact, i think it was the only administration that had ever significantly closed the income gap between black america and the rest of america. i think i'm right in saying that. >> you're 100% correct. trump economic policies are color blind. they work for all americans. and black americans under the trump administration benefited. one final point. you have a, you have a witness here, a person who has converted

from being a democrat to voting for trump in 2020 and will vote for trump in 2020 2024 -- 2024 because he's good for america regardless of color. stuart: good man. leo terrell, the bet still stands, and one day we'll have dinner. [laughter] >> take care. stuart: staying in california, governor newsom is pushing for new rules in school classrooms. lauren: he sent a letter to the districts across the state saying, please, restrict cell phone use on campus at your schools. he's citing new research but, i mean, don't we all know that cell phone use causes anxiety and depression? and what about learning loss? all you have to do is ask a teacher should cell phones be in the class rom. so he stopped -- classroom. he stopped short of a statewide crackdown, but some of the largest school districts in california have already banned cell phones -- stuart: i'm in complete agreement with gavin newsom, how about that. put the flag out, sports pan th. here it is, the thursday

trivia question. how much soda does the average american drink in one year? 322, 30, 38 or4 gallons? gallons. [laughter] the answer when we come back. ♪ ♪ ..

stuart: american culture at stake. how much does the average american drink in one year? measuring this in gallons, 22, 30, 38, 44 gallons per person per year. what do you think? ashley: lahren is the inspiration, she says go big or go home. i'm going 44. 7 gallons. lauren: i said in the break i won't say what ashley says, i said 22. 8 gallons. stuart: i'm going in the middle, 38 gallons per person per year. reveal please. the answer is 44, that means altogether american consumers, 8.6 billion gallons of soda per year. we are out of time. thanks a lot