>> emily: current and former students on capitol hill testifying before lawmakers about the growing wave of antisemitism sweeping across american colleges. in recent weeks we've seen alarming rise in anti-israel c sentiment and antisemitic threats against jewish students. had is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno here with co-hosts kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner, joining us is dr. nicole saphier and former texas land commissioner and partner at michael best llp, george p. bush. antisemitic incidents have drastically jumped since the war between hamas and israel. schools are left struggling to balance first amendment rights and campus safety and students revealing hateful rhetoric and mistreatment they have had to endure.

watch. >> on campus, i now confronted daily with shouts to free palestinian from the river to the sea, it is seeking to deny jewish right to self-determination in israel, call to exterminate all jews with hamas open goal. support for hamas is support for terrorist organization and must not be misconstrued. regardless what side of the political aisle, no student deserves to be threatened, mistreated or silenced on campus. >> i was in a group chat and falsely labeled a nazi, a token, a white supremacist and bigot. some individuals expressed i made them uncomfortable and feared i might commit a hate crime against them because i'm black and hold conservative principles. these people believe you want to benefit straight white men even

though such beliefs are untrue. i went to college with expectation i would hear different points of you video, i thought young people would disagree and be friendly and courteous to each other. after two years, this is not the case at all. >> emily: today's hearing as barry weiss issues warning about dei on college campus, she says it is time to dei. it is about irrigating power to movement that threatens not just jews, but america itself. she goes on to say, we have been seen for several years now the damage this ideology has done. dei and quadry of enforcers undermine central mission of the institutions that adopt it. nothing made dei more clear than what is happening on college campuses. the places where our future

leaders are nurtured. we see professors immersed, not in facts, knowledge and history, in dehumanizing ideology justify terrorism. george, powerful words, but true concept and that the most frightening part. >> george: it is, it is time to defund dei programs, time for federal government to re-examine its role in creating safe learning institute for our next generation of leaders. it's good that education secretary cardona said under the 1965 civil rights act every kid deserves free and open place of learning. regretfully dei has resulted in administrative lack of moral clarity. it is now high time that governors and state university system remind university leaders that they have an important role and what we're asking for is not very exotic, we're just asking

for hamas to recognize what it is. what our own country and intelligence recognize it is, a terrorist organization. the fact we have lost a sense of free and open and civil discourse with opposing viewpoint is great sign of the degradation of higher ed. i for one as a parent of two, i re- re-evaluate where parents send their kids and we are seeing record low enrollment and people reevaluating whether ivy leagues are truly deserve prestige they are in doubt. i will close by saying mark rowan, you may have read about, gave 50 million to the warden school of business pulled his commitment and stood forward saying president of penn needs to say something, say something about hamas being a terrorist organization where young men and women are facing threats on

campus and rabbi berman, is leading this coalition, i'm proud to non- university of texas, baylor, part of that coalition to take away violence from higher ed learning. >> emily: kayleigh, accountability expected of university leadership to stand up and stand for some type of moral clarity. also in stewardship of funds. barry weis, she talked about antisemitism and what research described as 13 billion dollars in undisclosed contributions from foreign regimes, many of which are authoritarian. >> kayleigh: that is right, she wrote in a separate column, biggest funder of universities when it comes to foreign dollars that are pouring into them is qatar. qatar. okay. who is housing hamas. i saw a picture yesterday of

hamas living it up, hamas leaders, clearly not caring about the people of gaza, who hamas is killing as they try to leave the country. qatar is flooding aid to universities, that is a huge problem. where did this hatred come from is a question worth pondering? is there a link to dollar? we don't know, correlation is different than causation. embedded in so many philosophy classes, foreign relation classes, is anti-israel attitude and more broadly antiwestern attitude, i saw during my time in college, this very subtle doctrine that is spewing outwardly from the student body. just to underscore what avi mayra said, he said universities are not magical places you can spew whatever vile hate you want and expect it to disappear when

you leave campus. so proud to see ceos say you support hamas and terrorism, goodbye six-figure job, you're out of here, we need consequences. >> harris, we talk about progressive left, it is anti-western and anti-american and barri weiss, it does not like america or liberalism and doesn't believe america is a good country, no better than china or iran, it calls itself progressive and does not believe in progress, it explicitly is anti-growth and claims to promote equity, answer to question of teaching math or reading to disadvantaged children demonizes hard work, merit, family and dignity of the individual and ideology that seeks to undermine what makes

america exceptional. >> harris: wow, i had not read that, i took note as you were talking. far left democratic leaders are hopeful in eroding access to the american dream. so there has to be some sort of snapback to that. i think what it is, this drum beat of the american dream is gone, we have to blame somebody. blame something, we can't look inwardly at the party we support and young people are taught this on liberal campuses. point a finger elsewhere, whatever the hot rage is of the moment and it changes, it was cancel culture, right now it is antisemitism. it can be anti-black, anti-christian, we've seen all sorts of things. what it consistently is, hate the thing you no longer have access to. hate that american dream, make it something you don't want anymore, it will not come back the way our grandparents had it.

with the rabbi, i had the president of baylor university, i said it is bravery to show moral clarity? no, i knew what the right thing was, just so happened 90 other universities knew it. connect connecticut, on board. antisemitism will not rule on those campuses. she's doing, linda livingstone at baylor university, reeducation program for kids. they are having to be taught not to hate us, us as americans and the dream. it is attainable. they have to look outside people who tell them to hate. >> emily: one final point that is worth underscoring, jewish people have outlived and surpassed everyone that has tried to exterminate, we will persist and endure here.

dei is undermining america. she says it is worth fighting against, it is the least we can do. we owe it to the country, the country we stand for. >> dr. saphier: she is right, demonized rhetoric across the country and you have student groups justifying horrible acts of violence on victims as long as they are labeled oppressors, it is okay. right to debate is heart of college. not when you are talking about uneducated, ignorant comments inciting violence. there has to be no tolerance for this, remove the students, teacher, dei, if we want to mutual forward from this bloody tide. >> emily: more to come, including this. house of representatives calling out antisemitic rhetoric and voting to censor squad member rashida tlaib. one of her democrat colleague on

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>> kayleigh: house voted to censor congresswoman and squad member rashida tlaib late last night over her anti-israel rhetoric making her the 26th member censored in house history. resolution serves as former bipartisan rebuke afterthe terrorist attack and her defense of the anti-israel slogan from the river to the sea. 22 democrats crossed party lines to pass it, four republicans voted against it. tlaib says she will not be

silenced. >> the idea criticizing government of israel is antisemitic sets a dangerous precedence. i can't believe i have to say this, palestinian people are not disposable. the cries of the palestinian and israeli children sound no different to me. why -- what i don't understand is why the cries of palestinians sound different to you all. >> kayleigh: joining me congresspran jar ed moskowitz. you voted to censor tlaib. your temple was targeted by men in ski masks, what happened? >> a bunch of kids in ski masks

went to my son goj in parkland as congregation was getting out of services and yelled, "kill the jews." most likely because they saw this on tiktok, they saw hatred on tiktok, saw people pulling down posters of hostages, as young people say this is fake, these people aren't real like a magnet to the posters. we are seeing all of this like electronic fentanyl sweeping young people on college campuses across america. >> kayleigh: no doubt about it, it breaks my heart when i see it, you are complimentary speaking out about antisemitism from the president. i want to play something that happened yesterday at the white house podium to that point.

>> a lot of videos of individuals tearing down signs, many taking place in new york city of israelis being held hostage in gaza. is the white house's view these actions should be condemned pulling down of them or that is a form of peaceful protest? >> look, i have sort of seen the reporting here and there, i think from last week. >> 30 million videos. >> i hear you, i'm not going to -- >> is that peaceful protest to pull that down or should you not do that? >> i will not go into specifics on this particular thing. >> kayleigh: should this be condemned out right automatically? >> yeah, of course. we saw this unfortunately previously on the issue of antisemitism, i'm happy the press secretary put out something condemning removal of the posters.

i don't know why it can't happen at the podium and has to happen on social. i am happy that the press secretary has condemned that behavior and president biden has been unequivocal on support of the jewish community and calling out antisemitism. i would say, kayleigh, i don't know what it is, like mental illness with people on the streets, they see posters and they just feel they have to tear them down. i'm meeting with families in washington, d.c. whose kids are missing, babies are missing, husbands missing. they are held hostage in gaza. you have a right to protest in this country and right to free speech. we have a right to respond and call people out. something is clearly wrong right now with youth of america they think it is acceptable when someone is kidnapped to try to erase that person. they can't look at them and must tear it down.

so this is a big problem right now for the jewish community, seeing antisemitism, people going to protest with signs that say gas the jews, cleanse the jews. you can be for a ceasefire, but to be clear, when you talk about removing jews from the earth, that is hatred we have not seen since the holocaust and we're never going back. jews are going to speak up and fight back. we have learned from history and we're done being silent when we see this level of hatred. >> kayleigh: i can't imagine pulling down a poster of little kafir. you voted to censor rashida tlaib, why did you do that and do you wish more democrats would have joined you? >> well, look, everyone has constitutional right to say what they want to say and we have debate clause in congress so they can say what they want to

say. congress as a body can come together and decide we disagree with comments and they don't stand for comments of the body. from the river to the sea means elimination of the state of israel. we cannot redefine that, that is how hamas uses it. we will not let people say it is a coloring book thachl statement should not be used. it is calling for genocide, hamas is using that as way to wipe israel off the earth. i'm happy there were colleagues that said those comments don't stand. be clear, this is not happening in a vacuum. >> kayleigh: only 60 of 212 voted to condemn the phrase, do you wish more colleagues would have in the join statement signed yesterday? >> you know how this place works, you worked on capitol hill, it is rare democrats condemn their own colleagues and rare republicans condemn their

own. it is easy to deal with antisemitism across the aisle, have no problem calling it out when a republican does it and republicans have no problem calling it out when democrats do it. it is rare when it is within your own. i am proud to have stood with the 22 folks. we're moving forward obviously, this is not something we'll dwell on, this was directly important to say, everyone can say what they want, they have constitutional right to do so, the house can say that does not stand for the body. >> kayleigh: you have shown moral clarity, thank you for that and thank you for the bipartisan legislation with michael lawler to put oil sanctions on iran, thank you for your efforts. harris, you know, it is pretty unbelievable. that people tear down signs, all 435 members of the house can't

condemn. >> harris: those who voted to censor rashida tlaib, it is sad you stand alone and many who voted are jewish. where are black people of congress, they marched with african americans, they funded marches. where are the voices? if rashida tlaib really is broken-hearted about palestinians, what in the world is she saying to the leaders of pakistan? they have expelled 1.7 million palestinians with nowhere to go, but the neighbors who are desperate to take as many as they can, but now they are saying maybe not. those numbers are not different from ones going from north to south in gaza after terrorists call themselves government. slaughter people and slaughter their own people. i don't buy it, the scarf

doesn't tell me how she feels. call pakistan, get a home for your people, call iran with the money and power, commands control over hamas and hezbollah. if she wants to make a difference, censor her will not force her to do it. >> kayleigh: it is not easy to condemn a colleague, there is pressure put on you by your party, he stood on principle. >> emily: he has, i'm grateful and respect him. the pressure is one of those self-made mattinations, tax dollars pay that. get it done, censor that inappropriate, unacceptable rhetoric and behavior. that is pretty clear order. i want to point out the phrase electronic fentanyl is powerful, fentanyl is a death sentence, no going back from that. talking about antisemitism

behavior sweeping tiktok that is influence youth, he called them kids, i will call them monsters. who wore ski masks and engaged in vile rhetoric toward his synagogue members. it is implies death of the independent, free-thinking moral clarity position none of the people seem to have anymore. final point. the way the narrative is being phrased of the censor, comments made about the israel/palestinian war, they are not just comments, they antisemitic comments. for some reason hers is being molded over and made less sharp than it really is, less vile. >> no doubt about it. election day 2023, it appears abortion will be a driving issue for democrats in 2024.

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>> harris: election day 2023, officially in the books. in mississippi, republican governor tate reeves won bid for a second term over brandon presley. one of few big wins for republicans for what was expected to be a bigger night. in kentucky beshear victory over attorney general cameron. democrats notched win for control of state legislature. in virginia, swept control of state assembly and the senate, dealing massive blow to glenn youngkin and future of his conservative agenda. abortion was on the agenda, maybe not enough. similar story in new jersey.

democrats manage to maintain control of the state legislature while flipping some seats, as well. abortion is shaping up to be a driving factor. i say that flatly because didn't we already know. voters decided to add abortion rights, abortion access since the dobbs decision. something you said hit me. you said polls do not equal votes. >> kayleigh: my number one message to republicans, we'll get to abortion next. a poll can look good, that doesn't mean you will look victorious. republicans have not had a good night since 2021. i think we are clear-eyed about that. message for democrats after last night, you won in spite of joe biden issue not because of joe biden. political play book they are

celebrating in wilmington, delaware, they feel vindicated. do that at your own peril, biden is an albatross. >> harris: to abortion, where are republicans on this message and where should they be? they are not winning with it. >> dr. saphier: republicans have a massive messaging problem. people go to the polls to vote, when it comes to abortion democrats are unified. republicans are fractured from extreme pro-life to where you can have no access to abortion to you have restrictions on it. they need their messaging together. my husband just ran for local township council, unsuccessfully. americans have massive voter turnout problem. democrats are like 4-1 locally

in new jersey. the margin of which democrats continue to win are those that are putting out mail-in ballots and so for 2024, that is what republicans need to focus on, if republican voters remain complacent, it doesn't matter, if you voted, good for you. people who stayed home, failing education system to democratic-run cities with high crime and migrant coming in, this is your problem as much as policies in place. >> harris: george, last night and what the doctor is saying is true, last night should have seen long, long, long lines with republicans in them because they are not winning the message >> the rnc with ronna mcdaniel getting out the message vote early, that is how democrats cheat. it wasn't the thing you didn't want to tell them, now you have

to play on even playing field. i had chris sununu say play by the rules or you will not win. >> i would say when we fast-forward to 2024, have leader of the party and theirs. there is no way around the polling data that shows president biden if he's democratic nominee will lose to no matter who our nominee is. be clear, these are local state races, ohio ballot proposition, singular issue testing abortion, legalization of marijuana. let's be honest, these are local, state races. i'm bullish on prospects as a party. as relates to abortion, pro-family agenda, homelessness, crime, that will sell better and natural reaction after dobbs, we want to expand that aperture at

the state level. judicial lawyers in the room, the point of eliminating the states to make that determination. i am pro-life, i will continue to fight in texas, we are all about that. this is giving families first voice in government. >> emily: yeah, i think the two main takeaways from last night, abartion is not waning and democrats are energized and "washington post" had a great summation. they said there is real question about republicans about whether they don't turn out when trump is not on the ballot, is that it? beshear was an incumbent, virginia leans blue normally. this doesn't necessarily mean biden with various liability will be able to take advantage. all of that is only true if the gop does not come to the table with some type of strategy that

harnesses voters at that early time. we are clearly losing somethingen 22 the polls and concepts and actual voting. >> harris: we'll move. we've been talking about it, this segment, we'll talk more as promised, abortion is big factor in this year's election. up next strategy to tackle that issue before the 2024 presidential race. what is it? what did you see? stay close. like sam, who make- everyday products, designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder, that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that- i need a breakthrough card. like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more. plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases. and with greater spending potential, sam can keep making smart ideas- a brilliant reality! the ink business premier card from chase for business. make more of what's yours.

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plan to tackle it and to support young women. i recently sat down with mike johnson and asked about just that. your parents gave birth to you, juniors in high school, young parents, that came with challenges, i read they had to drop out of high school. you understand, your parents understand how unplanned p pregnancy can be. there is not always as much passion, you don't hear pagsz for how to support young women. will you have a plan to support young women, anything that you can do? >> there is a number of measures and i do think we're in a different season now post-dobbings that overturned roe v. wade. new environment, pro-life republicans, we are criticized we only care about the unborn child. no, we care about the baby, the person, the families. policy good for the nuclear

family and mothers and their children, you do well and you advance stability for the republic. there is a number of measures on the table now to help with adoption, to allow further tax credit that go down that long and expensive road. allow unwed mothers in a crisis pregnancy situation, if they desire, to allow for child support payment beginning at conception when the child is in the womb. why would child support begin after birth of the child, why not during gestation? there is a lot of forward-thought in house and senate going forward on legislation that would show and prove that we are for the mother. >> kayleigh: doctor, imperative they show they are for the

mother. i was in texas and said what is main thing you hear when women come into a crisis center. they are hungry, i want to keep my baby, but i only eat when i go to the pizza place i work at every three days. more women would keep their baby with support. your thoughts. >> dr. saphier: millions of dollars are funneled into centers. some don't realize keeping a baby they didn't plan is an ongz because there is not support there. moving toward the election, what we're seeing abortion is bigger than any individual candidate and republicans need to get together and figure out how to talk about it. this does not reflect how i feel about the topic, when it comes to republican talking points, when you look at abortion, 90%

of them are performed less than 12 weeks gestation. when republicans put ban at six weeks, heartbeat and other times, that is restrictive for people who believe there should be some access to abortion, majority of women. the overwhelming majority do not occur after 35 weeks. when democrats come out and say no ban whatsoever, when people vote, they look and say reality is not people are getting abortion 39 weeks, usually six to 10 weeks, they want access to that and republicans have to get on track with that. >> kayleigh: people don't know this, senator rubio, days after dobbs put out a plan, including child tax credit and extending food and nutrition and included unborn child support, a 10-part plan no one knows about.

>> part and parcel with pro-mom agenda we can wrap around our candidates and when communicating with voters, remind voters what we're for, culture of life, and remind folks democrats are extreme on the issue, whether supporting partial birth abortion, overwhelming majority of independents are against and funding planned parenthood. we can succeed and still be pro-life. >> kayleigh: wish you were in charge, george. bombshell report claims federal officials created disinformation grun group at stanford university that helped censor leading up to the election.

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>> john kirby expected to reiterate president biden's call for three-day ceasefire in israel's military campaign. israel arguing that would only benefit hamas. and karine jean-pierre's refusal to condemn removal of posters israeli posters in gaza. what was that about? hate speech on college campuses, jonathan turley and mike gallagher on that.

dhs secretary mayorkas in the congressional hot seat as terrorist threats coming across the border are more evident. and the abortion issue, after losses in yesterday's elections. join sandra and me for "america reports," see you then. >> emily: bombshell report from house judiciary committee claims officials in department of homeworked to create a so-called disinformation group at stan ford university. they appear to show that group alongedside the federal government and big tech companies to censor online speech, largely targeting, of course, one side of the aisle. kelly o'grady live in los angeles with more smexplosive developments. >> election integrity partnership, we did digging on

who is behind this disinformation group and found the eip is shrouded in legitimacy of academia, two key academic organizations, one from stanford and one from university of washington, the websites they collaborate with a number of others -- >> harris: this is breaking news, we were not sure ififi /* yvanka trump would speak. all of trump's grown children now were called to testify have done so, we saw both his elder sons, eric and donald jr. testify and today yvanka. that is leticia james, the district attorney that has been going after trump for years and put forth charges against him for realigning his asset amount

through accountants to say what things were worth versus what this judge and prosecutors say. everybody got paid, anybody owned money, no victims here. this is a civil situation and bottom line is how much money it will cost donald trump. can they take his name off the signs, you know they would love that. we're following this, yvanka does not speak. we caught just a clip of her walking out. do we want to go back to kelly? we do? okay, emily. to you. >> emily: on this topic, i just find it striking logistics of exiting the courtroom, half second after yvanka walks by, we have leticia james walking by and the sort of -- symbolizes a

lot to me, proximity and they are thrown together adverse aerial components, one dedicated to bringing down what has been and what has remained vital part of new york state economy. >> harris: she campaigned on it, that particular sdrkt att -- district attorney. when they say people have been paid what they are owed, that is important part of the story, although they don't focus on that. >> emily: i'm grateful you brought that up, there has been a lot of misunderstanding about the point of a victimless crime. you can argue if you are speeding down the highway, who did this hurt? there is strict liability. some laws the government says it doesn't matter the consequence, we're trying to deter people because the consequence could be so bad if there were a victim. here they didn't break laws,

that is the point and the state is coming in and arguing and creating a concept where they say nothing even happened, there was no fraud or negative impact. the government will identify itself as the victim, every dollar they see as lost income, there is nature of government to do that. i will let you speak further on the legalities. >> george: being a civil case as opposed to other election integrity case, scholars ask the question, can a convicted presidential nominee serve at federal level and you can't. some states state as convicted felon, you can't. politically, all this benefited president trump. so it is interesting at the beginning of this, i said if democrats, not that they are taking my advice, want to win in

2024, they would probably stop trying to pursue him in court and pursue him in the open square, that is the way it is supposed to be done. it is a long and sorted issue we get to watch. >> dr. saphier: harris mentioned how much this will cost the trump family. how much is it costing taxpayers? >> harris: it's a great question. all right, we'll be right back on "outnumbered."

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>> harris: it's been a busy day. can you imagine being the white house press briefing today? kjb, karine jean-pierre, and being the white house press secretary you know you are going to get a ton of questions. stick with israel, a sticking point with them not wanting to pause, it has heated up and you have seen the coordinator for strategic communications john kirby talking about it. watch fox. "america reports" now. >> sandra: thank you, harris. less than a year out from