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campaign, without him emphasizing it. if you look at the border and foreign policy and the economy and inflation and gas prices, you look at where we are with illegal immigration, overwhelming sanctuary cities, these issues, all the things that were so out of the mainstream in 2016, 2018, 2019 are now in 2024 going i want those -- i would like to revisited that. >> bret: i could continue this panel for a long, long time. >> jessica: let's stay all night. >> bret: i just called an audible. i dropped the kicker. that's how much i like these guys. >> brian: you dropped the kicker? >> jessica: let's talk about the gaffes. >> bret: tomorrow correspondent benjamin hall and exclusive interview with volodymyr zelenskyy. a big deal for him to go back to ukraine. also, with our ceo and the big guy, lachlan murdock. thanks for inviting us in your home tonight, fair, balance bald unafraid. here is laura. ♪
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>> ainsley: hi, everyone i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." great to have you with us. biden's birthday collapse. what? that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ >> laura: today it's 81 candles for our 46th president. that's quite a personal accomplishment, i must say. well, the stars of stage and screen have traditionally loved celebrating democrat presidents on their birthdays. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday, mr. president. [laughter] ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ >> everybody, happy birthday. >> laura: biden was 19 and a half years old when that took place. but this year the affair was a little more subdued. even his pals in the press are having trouble finding something to celebrate. >> this morning president joe biden is celebrating his 81st
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birthday and i'm sure he would wish for different polling on his birthday. >> one of the things that the president cannot change is the fact that he is 8 # years old. happy birthday, mr. president. >> you can't magically become younger. president biden is 81 today. he will continue to be older. >> laura: really an aanalysis. he is going to continue to age. wow. but these people see the writing on the wall. don't they in the voters, including many of biden's own constituents are in full-blown revolt. his numbers are dropping faster than his words in mid sentence. now, less than a year before election day, the just-released nbc poll has biden approval numbers at record low of 40%. and young young people, guys, i almost fell over when i saw. they is at 31%. on the economy his number is 38. then young voters give him an abysmal 20% on foreign policy. that's his handling of the israel-hamas war, of course. now, trump is up 4 percent among
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young voters and 2% overall. so, wait a second. this must be a one-off. this can't be a trend -- well, hardly. this confirms the trends we have been seeing now for a while. and a new harvard-harris poll just released shows the birthday boy is in just as much trouble against trump. down by 7 points. although, for some reason, biden's approval number in that same survey is oddly jump ago little bit to 45. inside the poll, on specific questions, it's more bad news for biden. americans' fears and frustrations about crime, wow, that's clear. 63% of those surveyed believe gun ownership is important to be able to protect yourself against attacks. and 83% want to crack down on shoplifters. all right. let's face it. try as they might, it's just impossible to spin these numbers. the data guys have pretty much just given up. >> this, by the way, is the
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lowest we have measured, his job approval rating since he became president. >> the last time a democratic candidate did this poorly amongst voters under the age of 35 was before either of us were actually registered. >> of course, biden's most truculent supporters did try their best. see the bright side on a slew of bad biden polls. >> are these poll results, and can you comment on that, part of a biden pattern? not to be overreacted to when you look at where he ends up? >> i think we are all a little swept of some of the polling. most interesting finding of the poll which actually everyone should look at is that 77% of democratic primary voters support the president in that poll. that's the highest number yet. >> laura: oh my god. okay. that analysis is just sad. and, as usual, it's totally outs of touch. it turns out the bad news for the globalists here in the united states is also being reflected as bad news for the globalists around the world.
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argentina saw a shock win for the populist candidate javier milei and the anti-immigration conservative populist movements are growing all across europe. in france, in sweden, germany, and spain. more on that with victor davis hanson coming up. but the bottom line is clear on all of this. the old clinton-bush consensus on globalization, that demanded free trade, the free movement of people, and perpetual foreign intervention, it's just collapsing everywhere. that narrative is not working. it just doesn't work for the average person. it was a policy of the elites by the elites, and for the elites, it failed everyone else. so it's time to go back to real democracy and give the voters what they want. and that's the angle. >> laura: joining us now and i'm delighted he is with us, doug schoen democratic pollster and former adviser to president clinton. doug, if this is the truth, i
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think, democrats don't want to hear about joe biden, and it's coming out in these polls day after day. is there a possibility of a plan b here, given how dire this looks? >> yes. i think there is, laura. and plan b is as i conceive of it and i think it's realistic is that joe biden, in the fails of more discouraging polls meets with his family over the holidays and decides that for a variety of reasons the polls, his age, his health, the investigations into himself now and hunter biden, he decides not to run and plan b, incredible as it may seem, is probably kamala harris. >> laura: wait. i think i just -- my heart just skipped a beat. kamala harris? >> yeah. it might. because she is more unpopular than he is. i know, laura, but this is the
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democratic party of 2024. and your silence is entirely appropriate under the circumstances we face. >> laura: all right. doug, we will get back to that, i hope, in a moment. i want to go over some of the specifics on where trump is showing these significant gains over biden. this is since october of 2020. among independents, he is up 21%. black voters, he is up 13% with hispanic voters, black voters 15%. and 8 points with suburban voters. a lot of those suburban women taking a second look at trump. so that type of erosion and then you add in the youth vote, which again. >> exactly. >> laura: i kept looking back saying this has to be false. this can't be true. i don't see how a kamala harris comes in and turns that around. she is just a younger version of the same old bad policies that don't work. >> i think that that is right. and i think my party would do well to look well beyond kamala
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harris. but, if at the 11th hour, so to speak, joe biden steps down, the filing dates in a lot of states are past. the black leadership in the democratic party, which is responsible after all, for the nomination and indeed election of joe biden, i think will insist that kamala harris be the nominee. and the process will effectively be wired for her. gavin newsom is the only one i think that would have an outside chance of contesting the nomination. >> laura: well, and that's why he made the trip to beijing and he was there to welcome xi. you know, he is a man who has a firm fitting on the international stage, et cetera. but, janet yellen was asked a very prominent cabinet member, of course treasury secretary. she went over to beijing. she was asked about these poll numbers. this is what she said. >> we are making considerable progress in bringing inflation down. but, americans do notice higher
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prices from what they used to be accustomed to. i think it's our job to explain to americans what president biden has done to improve the economy. >> laura: they keep thinking it's a messaging problem, doug. the smasks people are going to the pumps and grocery stores and buying less with the dollars they're earning. they can't change that no janet yellen attempt at redoing the message lamely is going to change that. >> it's not gonna change it. i have said all along, as you were now saying, laura, that to just believe they can explain the inflation reduction acts, which does nothing of the sort, is a fools errand. it's not going to work. bottom line, they need to change policies. tighten the southern border once and for all. acknowledge that problem. cut spending, reduce the size of
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government, take meaningful steps to reduce the deficit. boss line, i don't think it's going to happen in a -- any chance it happens in this election year. but that's what the american people want because the improvement you cited correctly is because people are facing economic stress with 20, 25, 30% higher prices due to the biden policies of spend, spend, spend during the pandemic and as it was winding down. >> laura: all too many republican senators affirming that spending. doug, thank you so much. great to have your perspective tonight. all right. and now onto the international front. there's more good news. as populism is busting out all over, what the heck is going on? here is some of the most recent developments. in germany, the conservative afd party is growing finland just formed right wing government in history, spain, have you seen the video.
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they are marching by the hundreds of thousands against socialism. farmers in the netherlands are pushing back against the world economic forum. and in sweden a massive blow back against refugees there. over the weekend a landslide victory for javier milei and argentina pledging to dismantle socialism. joining me now is victor davis hanson senior fellow at the hoover institution. when trump lost, the elites made a prediction about what this trend would be like going forward. > and they basically said, sorry we don't have the soundbite, basically said populism was over. globalization and globalism would catch fire again and the old trumpism nation state days were over. your reaction to what we're seeing? >> well, brexit in 2016, trump victory were just the first wave and then they had a little
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counteroffensive and they got power. and we saw the results of progressive socialism, elite globalism and cultural marxism and it gave us these open borders, crime, hyper inflation, disunity, all these peripheral, cultural issues like the trans, three sex issue. and people had enough of it worldwide. and but the common denominators it's really striking how common they are. it's people do not like these elites whose first allegiance seems to be some rules based or davos or international order rather than the concerns of their own citizen they are never subject to the consequences of their own ideology. they live in protected enclaves where money and influence protects them from the disastrous effects of ideology. they have no common sense. it's always critical race theory, modern monetary theory. critical legal theory. and they don't have -- they don't want to appeal to people. they don't want to get out and
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say that these are my agendas, would you vote for me, because they think they can control their power and maintain it by the media, academia. the deep state. the corporate bedroom. board ro. finally it catches up to them and that's what we're seeing. >> laura: victor, when you see, again, it looks like a slow movement back toward cherishing the nation state individual countries with individual cultures cultures change. there is something happening. you feel n europe as well with the mass influx of mostly islamic refugees changing the entire makeup of countries like sweden and germany, france, and so forth that hasn't worked. clearly a multicultural disaster. how much of that is playing into this economic populist resurgence? >> quite a lot.
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i think october 7th was kind of the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. when people in europe and the united states especially saw all of these immigrants that had come to this generous country and they repaid our magna minute at this with disdain. it's not sustainable for an immigrant to get on a pole and tear down a flag on veterans day of the host. you see these students and chant "from the river to the sea" and get violent and anti-semitic and chase jews. you want to say to them you are arrogant but you are also ignorant. you don't know any of the facts of the middle east. have you come out of these universities very full of yourself but you have had no knowledge no analytics and no history. people are saying i have lost confidence in the ivy league. i have lost confidence in the idea that these elite universities. i have lost confidence in prudential diplomats and bureaucrats that come out of these universities. they are all completely out of touch with common sense. and especially with the immigration issue. the idea that people come over
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here to flee tyranny and dictatorship and misogyny and they come over here and then they start to cheer it on from a safe distance in this united states. i think really got people angry both here and in europe. >> laura: victor, always great to see you. thank you so much. you might be surprised to hear that president biden just invoked emergency power that's rarely used. why is he doing this? plus, a couple of months ago, we brought you the story about a chinese affiliated lab in california. wait until you hear the update on that. stay there.
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>> laura: as we just discussed there is a national and even international reawakening. it's slowly happening about the nightmare that is socialism or socialism light. now, filled with false promises. everything is going to be great. your life is going to be better. it only results in the rich getting richer and, of course, more powerful. and now weaver getting a clearer picture of what life will be like if biden or any democrat were to win next year. hint: more control for washington and international bureaucracies and less freedom for you.
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on friday night, how convenient, the white house released an executive order that will ensure the end of gas stoves and gas heating in homes and buildings across america. wait a second. i know what you are saying. how does biden have the power to do that? to force the production of electric heat pumps and electric stoves? well, the same way that washington had the power to force you to wear masks on planes. by declaring a public emergency. this time it's a climate emergency. which allows the president to invoke something called the war powers act. yeah. we're at war and you didn't even know it. >> this is such a signature can't step forward. the use of a very muscular set of tools. a war time authority that allows us to accelerate in an aggressive and quick fashion. >> transitioning to american-made heat pumps makes us more secure.
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>> laura: defense production act. joining me now daniel turner, founder and executive director of power the future. now, daniel, forget the invasion at the southern border. 8 million and counting have come across carbon is the real enemy that we need to rally against and invoking a cold war era policy, the defense production act. tell us about that. >> yeah, your analogy to what happened during covid with masks is spot on. once the government is able to declare something emergency, it seems their powers are limitless. you recall the government was allowed to tell you to stop going to church on sunday. they kept you at home. they closed your business. and only if you had powerful lobbyists connections were you able to continue to operate but, otherwise, the government was in control. of course, government leaders exempted themselves from those provisions, right? governor newsom went to dinner. nancy pelosi got her hair done. and so they are using the same power for the climate. that is because it's power.
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right? if you are a statist. if you are believe in government power tyrant as many in the biden administration are. look how they use technology and social media to control your freedom of speech. if you are a little tyrant, you love invoking some sort of emergency because your power has become absolutely limitless, this is what biden is doing. >> laura: now, this is going to give like more than $100 million in grants to force the production of these electric heaters and electric heat pumps. electric stoves. getting away from gas stoves. why is that important to them really, daniel? why is that such a bug in their bonnet, bee in their bonnet. >> fossil fuels are freedom. fossil fuels are the ability to move undetected, untethered government action. environmental left loves evs if you have a gas powered car. can you get in and go.
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if you have electric car, we may decide whether or not you get electricity. we may decide whether or not can you actually access your car. evs that's why china loves electric vehicles. evs are about control. fossil fuels are freedom. think of the fossil fuels in your house. heck, if you lose power, but if you have a gas powered stove, if you have a gas powered hot water heater, life can continue. same with a gas powered generator. they like the environmental movement likes all of these electric powered things because it makes you reliant on government and makes you reliant on them providing electricity for you. so, this is the huge push. you have to ask the president or you show that image of the secretary jennifer granholm ask if she was watching if they were sump viable technologies if they were so good why do you have to force them? why do you have to use government coercivive action to force them on us? >> laura: they are flopping and china is going to dominate the ev market. they are already beginning to. this was just breaking before
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the show. new jersey advanced media reporting that the state will require all new car sales to be electric, all by 2035. daniel, they are coming for your cars and now they want you to go ev but soon though don't want you to have any car at all if you ask me. >> absolutely. the government has to use this authority. they have to use the coercive power they have to force this on the american people. weave did a poll on this power the future.com. overwhelmingly unpopular. in new jersey, we polled new jersians they oppose this mandate. they like their cars and like their freedom. america is a car culture. it's part of our 19 # 0s rock and roll songs. >> laura: they don't like america. >> they don't like america. >> laura: they don't want america to be free. >> they don't like freedom that's why they are pushing. >> laura: freedom of movement. freedom of association, no. that doesn't work with a new world order. daniel, you have been on top of this from the beginning. we have to resist this as every
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turn. republican president got to roll this being ba. hiv, ebola, t.b., and the deadliest known form of malaria, all of that reportedly found in a chinese bio lab in california. fox's bill melugin is here with all the disturbing details. bill, what can you tell us? >> bill: yeah, wild story here the fbi and cdc are getting blasted with criticism that they dropped the ball. this is after illegal chinese bio lab was found right here in california full of deadly diseases and pathogens. and elected officials are now wondering how this lab was able to exist and how many others like it there might be here in the united states. so this lab was found near fresno, california. and when a centers for disease control ordered waste eradication took place at the site last week. contractors found pathogens labeled hiv and ebola. officials had previously found other diseases at the lab like covid-19, tuberculosis, malaria they also found thousands of lab mice.
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the person behind the lab was a 62-year-old chinese citizen wanted fugitive from canada. he had ties to the chinese communist party and had stolen millions of dollars of intellectual property. some u.s. politicians are now wondering how this guy, this chinese national, was able to get access to these deadly pathogens and set up shop in an elicit lab here in california. >> how was he able to get away with running a lab, getting millions of dollars sent to him from the chinese communist party and then, obviously, coming into our country, stealing american intellectual property? >> when the cdc showed up, they should have done what was right then, and they did not. they not test the pathogens. they did not even find all of them. they left a freezer with ebola in it, and we know how lethal that is. >> laura, the cdc did release a statement responding to these allegations that they dropped
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the ball here. they say they dispute any of those criticisms, and they also deny any claims that they didn't respond to local requests for help regarding that secret lab. but, regardless, a vicious and a pretty scary story here to know that was operating right here in our backyard. we'll send it back to you. >> laura: bill, unbelievable. thank you so much for that. keep saying i can't believe this is happening. it's happening in the united states of america. all right, 10 years ago during the obama administration, one of the biggest political scandals of our time, the irs ruthlessly targeted conservative groups. y'all remember that well, senator j.d. vance is here to tell us how this is happening again. so stay there. ♪
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>> laura: we already know the doj is targeting conservatives. look what they have done to president trump.
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to the people caught up in the january 6th dragnet. now, there are new concerns that theist is doing the same back to its old tricks. a decade after that infamous irs chief lois lerner, remember when she was accused of carrying out vendettas against conservative groups? the agency is reportedly targeting conservative groups yet again. the american accountability accy foundation which has published multiple exposed which led to some getting polled, now audited and at risk of losing 5001 c tax exempt status. what is going on here. joining me now is ohio senator j.d. vance. senator, i have to remind everybody that the biden administration wants to increase the irs head count by nearly 90,000 employees at a time when we should be cutting government spending. >> laura: is this a coincidence about this group getting
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targeted -- getting audited i should say? >> i don't think it's a coincidence at all. the irrelevancy admitted 10 years ago they were targeting conservatives. they said it would never happen again and yet we have evidence of it happening at the very moment. the idf, american accountability foundation. extremely effect tiff. multiple biden administration nominations that i think we have been able to defeat because they have revealed incredibly gross things about their past statements. about their past views. these guys are doing incredibly good work. here is really the goal of this, laura. what the irs is trying to do is basically send a signal that if you are doing effective work on behalf of the conservative movement, you have got to have your head on a swivel. you got to be looking around your shoulder to make sure that the irs isn't going to come after you. fundamentally an assault on people's first amendment rights. using the government -- another example of using the government to target political opponents as opposed to effectively administer the laws of the country. >> this is a very new thing
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we're seeing in american government. it's very dangerous and we have to call it out and we have to fight against it. >> laura: the 90,000 agents we hear about. efforts to pull back the funding on the irs. whatever happened with that? i keep having people come up to me asking me: what's going on with that i never really have a good answer. >> well, one update, laura, is actually myself and a colleague, roger marshall, one of the great senators, one of my best friends in the senate, actually, he and i went to the senate floor just a couple of days ago and tried to cut $14 billion out of that additional irs funding. mike johnson, the speaker of the house, has been doing and pushing similar legislation on the house side. , every single democrat voted to stop the united states senate, even the so-called moderates. what we are seeing here with the weaponization of the irs is that no democrat is willing to stand up and say enough is snuff so long as you with the one hand
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give these guys tons of money and with the other hand empower them to target their political opponents, you're going to have a fundamentally distorted political system. a lack of justice in this country. that is unfortunately where what we have. we are trying to push back against it, laura. but, unfortunately, with chuck schumer and democrats in the majority, there's only so much that we can do. it's yet another reason why we have got to push back against the democratic majorities in 2024. laura, if i could make just one final point. look, i understand everybody looks at this. i'm a conservative. they say conservatives complaining about the what the irs is doing to conservatives. is not about left vs. right. this is about whether we have functional constitutional government in this country. if the irs can go after you because of what you think or what you believe or what you do, we would no longer live in a free country, that's what this is all about. and if you think they are not going to eventually use it against your politics, whatever they might be, it's ridiculous. they certainly will. >> laura: well, senator, this has to be stopped. got to win the senate back next
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year. that means strong conservatives running. senator, thank you. all right. oral arguments, they were held today in trump's appeal to lift that absurd gag order that judge amy chutkan put on him. details from what happened inside the courtroom in d.c. in moments. ♪ ♪ from the mountains, ♪ to the fruited plains. ♪ it's the best part about this land. ♪ and to those of you who hear the call - answer. ♪ come in to bass pros shops and cabela's for great gear before your fall hunt. your adventure starts here.
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♪ >> laura: now more on the swamp vs. donald trump. the developments today at the d.c. circuit, on trump's appeal of his gag order. now, this was a two-hour hearing, the three judge panel hinted that it would affirm that gag order issued by judge amy chutkan but that they also may limit the reach of the order with one judge saying this: >> we're not everyone who speaks only effecting speech temporarily during a trial someone indicted as a felon no. one is threatening the first amendment broadly. >> joining me now david schoen former trump impeachment attorney and sol wisenberg former deputy independent counsel, fox news contributor. i know you have argued a few of these cases before appellate court judges. they seem skeptic about trump's core political speech argument that judge millete was referencing there.
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>> sorry, david, go. >> on the other hand they recognize this order has got to be narrowed. vague terms like targeting. >> targeting a witness and so on. to give you an example of how vague and unenforceable that term is and by the way, as you well know in the free speech speech area when a term is vague it chills speech automatically because an actor doesn't know when he or or she can speak. judge chutkan herself, when given an example by jack smith the special counsel, cited that example and said well that almost certainly violates the targeting provision. if she doesn't know what violates it, how can a criminal defendant then risk real serious consequences under such an order? i think the order is going to be narrowed. i'm not in favor of any gag orders. the prior restraint, the court has dealt with this before, in nebraska press. it doesn't meet the criteria there for issuing a gag order. this is a defendant, remember, not a lawyer. the d.c. court has very stringent rules under rule 57.7. a local rule on what a lawyer can say. criminal defendant is an
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innocent citizen as a matter of law. and i like to look at it as his or her first and sixth amendment rights. right to free speech, right to a public trial. has to be measured by the first amendment right which is the presumption of innocence. >> laura: well, sol, to this point, now the panel may end up allowing trump to continue to criticize the special counsel jack smith but but it would keep the ban in places for witnesses and court staff. explain that. >> listen, i listen to the almost all of the argument, laura, and this order is not going to stand in it's current form it. going to be significantly narrowed. two things really striking that stood out today number one, the example that everybody is horrified by is trump's statement about general milley that his actions were treasonous after the election and that in the past that would be
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punishable by death. they pretty much made it clear that that is pure protected speech. and they pointed out trump's statement was in response to a tv appearance by milley the previous day where he was hocking his book. i found that very significant. also, significant at another point is that the government made a very important concession. they actually said that he can, that trump can name the prosecutors -- the prosecutor, jack smith by name. that goes beyond judge chutkan's order. i thought that was very significant. they said he could do it as long as he's -- he does it at a high level of generality. and then the court said wait a minute, that's classic vague speech, isn't it? why can't he name smith by name and why can't he name the individuals who are on smith wants staff?
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i found those to be very significant things. this is going to be narrowed significantly. >> david, they are trying to justify the gag order any way they can. here, watch this. >> they are arguing this as if they are talking about a statute passed by congress to restrict the speech of a candidate. that's not what this is at all. this is an order to restrict the speech of a defendant in a high profile criminal case. and the judge has a duty to protect the integrity of the case. >> laura: david, the integrity of the process when the president -- a former president of the united states is part of his campaign is the corruption in our legal system? i mean, this takes on a whole new level, does it not? >> absolutely. first of all, it's a matter of great public interest. if president trump thinks that the process stinks and has no integrity, he is entitled to say it like any other american is entitled to say it. call it like it is.
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but and the court, by the way, was aware got short -- they were aware of the campaign and they said how is he going to be able to respond to attacks on him based on the indictment if he is not permitted to speak about the process? the hypocrisy surrounding this is unbelievable. if you are concerned about tainting a jury pool, how about this judge, judge chutkan's previous statements in other cases holding president trump responsible for january 6th before he has ever been tried? >> laura: right. >> how about the speaking indictment 45 pages of the government of unproven allegations that anyone can download and have in front of them every day. just last friday judge chutkan denied a defense motion to strike inflammatory allegations to the indictment saying we can deal from any kind of through voir dire. why is it when the government can say something it can be addressed through voir dire. if the defendant, president trump wants to say something it should be barred? >> laura: and, sol, then in that colorado case, the judge there on the other issue of trying to pull him from the ballot separate case, obviously, on
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14th amendment grounds on colorado, the judge there ruled that trump -- they made a factual finding saying that trump is responsible for inciting an insurrection, but he can remain on the ballot. well, the left went crazy for that all day long saying that was fantastic. it sets a factual predicate in colorado. is that significant today? >> i don't think it's significant. the significant thing in that opinion was that she held back. she realizes the historical record is very mixed on this, so she exercised judicial restraint. can you tell it killed her. but, what some judge in colorado thinks about insurrection, i don't think, is going to have any effect on any of the federal cases here. >> laura: all right. well, if they take it to the supreme court, i think they wanted to establish that factual predicate. but who knows what will happen. david and sol, you will be with
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>> it's time for seen and unseen, we reveal stories behind the headlines. we turn to raymond arroyo. biden led the white house turkey pardon, even if he managed to botch it. >> 76th anniversary of this event and i wasn't there for the 1st one. i was too young to make it up. >> raymond: laura, he's wrong, he's 81, more than 76, but the turkey pardon was instituted in 1863 by tad and abraham lincoln. i just interviewed the two
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turkeys biden pardoned today. here is a little exclusive preview. >> what are most concerned the president might ask you? [gobbling] >> he is showing us how to exit, this is good. >> what are you most concerned about the president asking of you? [gobbling] >> come on. he's not going to ask you papardon him, he's fine. you will end up in a nice farm, not on a table, this is good for you. >> raymond: laura, we bring you up close and personal to the newsmakers. >> laura: that matters. i'm thinking that beautiful bed at the willard hotel, beautiful sheets and linens, what happened with those? that is what i'm thinking about.
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>> raymond: they have pads on the bed for obvious reasons. they were smelly. beautiful white house tradition and monument to abraham and tad lincoln and forgiveness lincoln gave to many to bring the country together. he can manage to pardon liberty and bell, pardon his setup. >> president biden: liberty and bell had to beat tough competition, work hard to show patience and be willing to travel over 1000 miles. you could say harder than getting a ticket to the renaissance tour or for britney's tour. it is warm in brazil right now. >> raymond: laura, he meant taylor swift, britney has not
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performed in years. cardi b is not pardoning him. >> it will affect schools, public library and police department and $5 million budget cut in sanitation. we're going to be drowning in rats. joe biden talking about, we can fund two wars, we are greatest nation. no, we're not, we're going through stuff right now, going to be drowning in rats or squirrels or raccoons. israeli laura, it is kind of funny listening to her, she's talking about the migrant crisis. like the rock and celebrities supported biden in 2020, now they have buyers remorse, she doesn't like it like that. >> laura: raymond, i love the
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fact she's going totally cas and comfortable with the audience in her bathrobe and shower cap, i like that. just natural, not all glamed up, end of the day and i'll speak my mind. >> raymond: this rant went on 30 machine minutes. people are affected by this, people on the upper echelon of entertainment and society and they are feeling it. people who supported joe biden. what you are seeing is far beyond politics, cultural power of cardi b, the rock and kevin hart, may have political consequences no one sees right now. >> laura: let me tell you this, i think cardi b needs to go to
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south side of chicago and l.a., she needs to go all these places and preach the gospel about what is really happened to the country, not just instagram, preach the gospel to urban america and do it more. >> raymond: using her platform. >> laura: i know your christmas merry and bright is number one jazz release on amazon, congratulations. where you going on the road? >> raymond: in phoenix, november 25th and dallas and tampa with frankie avalon and in nashville december 21st, go to >> raymond: christmas.comfor tickets. >> laura: i have friends go be to the nashville event. thanks, jesse is next. >> jesse: walk t

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