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reaction from the white house after qatar announced a deal has been extended between hamas and israel two more days. the state of qatar announces as part of ongoing mediation, agreement to extend humanitarian truce for an additional two days in the gaza strip. one day meant 10 more hostages freed. hello, this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany here with harris, "fox and friends first" co-host carley shimkus, former state department spokesperson obama marie harf and fox news contributor raymond arroyo. lifting hope more hamas hostages would soon return home, day after the terrorist group released their first american hostage. abigail edan turned four years old while in hamas captivity on

friday. abigail watched hamas murder both her parents, she was in her father's arm when he was shot dead trying to protect her. her brother was in the closet, she climbed under her father's lifeless body trying to get to safety. terrorists found her when she fled to a neighbor's home and took abigail. another hostage needed to be rushed to the hospital in critical condition after her release yesterday. the 84-year-old suffered significant negligent by her hamas captors. the risk to her life is serious. we are learning more about the horror of what the hostages were forced to endure. relatives say their loved ones went days with little food and spent over a month and a half in

constant fear of being executed any moment by captors in the dark hamas tunnels. harris, on friday, i spoke with omar, his family was in captivity, the father murdered, oldest daughter murdered, three children and their mother in captivity. they were released yesterday. i want to play from omer, before he knew they were on the list. >> october 7, my cousin became a hostage, widow and bereaved mother on the same day. she was taken hostage with her three children, beautiful, happy, loving, educated children and she was a social worker devoted to her children and her husband and other son were murdered in their house. the heart can bear what they have been through and we're

eagerly waiting to see them back home. >> kayleigh: i want to underscore what was just said, in a moment, became a hostage, widow, bereaved mother. did she even know it? does she know two of her family members are lost? >> we don't know. >> harris: part of the challenge and i think about this with youngest of the children, they witnessed a lot of what happened. they may be in too much shock to understand it. ka kafir. that little one was 10 months old, we keep saying that. it has been 52 days, that little one will turn one and there won't be that moment yet for that child to even realize a first birthday. we don't know where exactly some

of these people are. you are seeing these children come out in relatively good physical condition, but they're going to be the most resilient among them. that is fantastic. the same time, psychological scars are hidden. i worry about the fact hamas is not the only group holding hostages now. you do deal with several different groups, and i don't know the relationship between qatar and islamic jihad, i hope as strong as it is with hamas. when i say that, check the words i'm saying. someone has a strong relationship with hostage-taking serial killers and it is where money we parked for iran is in their country. they released the statement, the state of qatar announces, they are out front and center in this. not to say the united states and israel have not been negotiating.

they are running out front. what is the end game for qatar and if other groups to do business with, can we have a seat at the table? >> kayleigh: great point about the other groups. marie, when you think of the roller coaster these families are on knowing last batch being release today and picking up your phone and praying your phone lights up and it is extended two days and praying they are among the next batch. we can't imagine what that looks like and the mental toll this will take. we talked about the hostages being taken to the hospital, this will have repercussions for the rest of their lives. i'm also glad you talked about the role of qatar here. there are often no good options in middle east, no perfect options and we're relying on

qatar. sometimes is an ally, a partner, they have worked with us at times and other times they have incredibly close relationship with hamas before october 7 many criticize and today is coming in quite handy for the u.s. and israel as we're trying to negotiate for release of hostages temperature is complicated and i don't know their end game. >> harris: we relied on the taliban when we pulled out in afghanistan, and you are right, i don't want to call them a partner, the necessity of the moment. scary. >> raymond: this underscores the weakness of the biden administration position. we have receded from the middle east. people can take hot shot and question president trump's approach, there was peace, we did not have hostages or attacks on israel. bad guys were frightened enough to stay out of this game, now we have a dangerous game employed

here and they know what many know, we are dealing with biden administration like obama administration willing to negotiate with terrorists, terrorists ransom or try to buy their goodwill. watching the president the other day, broke my heart. he came out, unsure, uncertain. like he heard of this news on the tv in the community room at the rest home, he was perplexed and doesn't seem to be fully engaged or in command of this situation and qatar is driving the ship and civilian lives hang in the balance, that is heartbreaking and we need to reflect on it. >> kayleigh: i want to update viewers. sitting here friday, we got names of the hostages and i looked down and saw ohad, there is little ohad running to the arms of his father. i learned in the hospital he

celebrated his birthday with pizza and ice cream, even though in hamas captivity. i hope he has a rubix cube waiting and i can tell viewers he completed it in less than one minute. >> i spoke to ohad's cousin on "fox and friends first" this morning and she talked about his birthday and he was told he could bring two friends to the hospital. he had nine or 10 friends and it was a great moment. his mother was with him in captivity and apparently marked the days down on a piece of paper to keep track up until his birthday. >> harris: as moms do. >> so they could celebrate the birthday in captivity. one silver lining are the videos we're seeing right where

hostages are reuniting with families. last video was of them being taken and now video of reuniification are going viral. steve doocy interview cousin of little abigail, she said abigail was very hungry when she came back, she wasn't given a lot to eat or bathed often, but she was smiling. last i will say some hostages will have a story to tell, another possibility has been raised because a lot of families have been separated, hamas kept husbands and mothers and they may be too afraid because hamas may have told them, if you say what you saw, we'll kill your loved one. psychological torture might continue for some people. >> kayleigh: including ohad's grandfather who is still in

captivity, they kept family members behind. raz and aviv reunifying with their father yoni. they are reunited, the families, yoni, omer, we say, i'm happy for our family, it is about the others being held. >> harris: i've been talking back to the psychological part we were talking about, marie, with doctors and experts who say survivors guilty, even with returning military men and women like from vietnam, for example, that survivors guilt is reason why some may stay quiet and you saw this after the holocaust. this is a group of people per their faith that have been targeted for so very long. the other countries are wrapped up in this, as well, so the

whole world is being impacted and that long-term psychological hurt is going to affect many of us for the rest of our lives, not just those who mourn those who don't come home or support those who do. it is our responsibility to remember where they are and support them any way we can, to pray for the hostages. >> kayleigh: and pray kafir is on the list, more "outnumbered" next. my dad believed in hard work, and the farm was the perfect place to learn grit, determination and problem solving. we're taking that passion and channeling it through our farm to home bedding bath, and apparel at red land cotton. we grow cotton in the rich red earth of north alabama. and we want our products to be made here in the usa, from the seed in the ground to the final stitch. go to red land cotton dot com and receive 20% off your order with code fox 20 18 years from tonight,

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october 7. alleviate suffering of civilians there, most of them have nothing to do with hamas and we assisted 840 americans and families who have departed on the ground and into egypt. take some questions. >> thank you, admiral. two things, the president called for israel a worth while thought, is he actually considering conditioning aid or

not? >> what he said right after acknowledging that it was worth while thought was the approach he's chosen to take has produced result and outcomes, many i just walked you through in my opening statement. approach we're taking with israel and with our partners is working, it is getting aid in to people who need it, getting a pause in fighting and getting hostages and americans out. we continue to urge and will continue to urge israelis to do so with utmost care for innocent civilian life. democrats saying we need to condition aid going forward, what would we say? the approach i'm taking now is working, the approach they are taking is working and gets results. >> personnel in the gulf, i know you outlined in series of appearances this morning what

happened. are we to continue seeing this sort of -- let me put it this way. is that strategy of dealing with it as it happens going to continue to be the strategy? some say there should be a more robust response to ongoing attacks from iranian backed or houthis, any thought of changing how that will be done? >> we will not get in the business of telegraphing our responses, ed. our forces in the gulf region and gulf of amman and aden will continue. is striking in yemen still an option? >> again, i will not telegraph it. i will add the mason is attached to uss eisenhower which the

president dispatched to the region. >> any possibility that americans will be among the 20 released? >> we hope so, we're watching closely and hoping another batch of hostages get released today as part of the fourth and final day of the original agreement, we'll watch to see if americans are in that group. it has come out over last three days, we don't know until the end game who is going to be on the list and you got to watch closely to see who is on the list are folks that come out, watching and hoping. >> the president at a critical moment to break that impact, more of that empass and how that has broken conversations? >> it came down to -- over the weekend, more about the list and who was on it. i don't want to get into more detail than that. similar issue to what we face

today, the reason there has been a little delay because there was a difference of view, if you might, over the list and fact mothers would not be allowed to come out with their children and that has been resolved. had to do with the who. >> the leader of argentina says he's coming to the u.s., also to d.c., any meeting scheduled with administration officials or anybody else? >> the president elect melee will be coming to meet with imf and world bank over their fiscal and economic issues. while he's here in town, he'll have a chance to meet with national security council folks, including jake sullivan. no plans to meet with the president. >> thank you, on the remaining americans being held, do you have more clarity whether they are being held with hamas or

other terrorist groups? >> no. >> all along you have been clear about concerns broader ceasefire would only benefit hamas. jake sullivan was clear in saying hamas has been able to gain some benefit from this. how concerned are you longer this truce lasts, now six days, hamas will benefit and how do you weigh that? >> it is a real risk, you have to expect a group like hamas, a terrorist group, which does not abide by laws of war. we are watching that closely and our israeli counterparts, you can bet are watching that closely. i don't want to speak for the israelis, but this is calculated risk prime minister netanyahu and his war cabinet are willing to take to get the hostages out temperature is balance and you heard israelis say once the pauses are over, they will go right back at military operation. >> when you say benefit, restocking, resupplying, what

are the benefits? >> i would say without getting into intelligence issueings, any pause in fighting could benefit your enemy in terms of time to refit, to rest your fighters, to rearm them, reequip them. a pause in fighting can be seen as a benefit. i want to stress, this was always part of calculus, any discussion of pause was part of the calculus, that hamas might try to benefit from it. so too have the israeli people benefited by return of their loved ones and hostages. so, too, have the american people benefited with little abigail back with her family temperature is a balance and i won't speak for israeli defense forces, when pauses are over, they made it clear they will continue to target hamas leadership. >> how many americans are still being held hostage and do you have proof of life? >> we think the number is --

less than 10, probably in the neighborhood of about eight to nine. we don't necessarily have firm solid information on each and every one of them. why haven't the two american women with abigail, what happened with them? why haven't they been released? >> we hope we will see them hopefully today and if not today, over next couple days to be back with their families, where they belong. the lists are developed by hamas and of course there is israelis develop their list and we are not involved in specific drafting of the list and determination on hamas side who will come out any given day. we want to see the two american women released as soon as possible. >> the truce being extended two days, what do you want next, three days, permanent truce?

>> steve, we're grateful we have extra two days to work with here, that will result in release of 20 more individuals, women and children. as i said, we'd like to see even that extension extended further until all hostages are released, that is the goal, get all the hostages home with their family. however long that could take. uh-huh. >> thank you. just the question about melee visiting, you mentioned most meeting with the imf, who will he meet at the white house, embassy and what are expectation of the white house for this meeting and of the president about the two nations? >> he'll meet with jake sullivan and potentially other folks here, we'll see how that shakes out. the president won't meet with him because of domestic travel. obviously, we want to continue

to look for ways to cooperate with argentina and argentina is a healthy and vibrant partner in this hemisphere on many, many issues. looking forward to hearing what the president-elect's ideas are and making sure we keep that channel communication /* of communication open. go to africa and the congo, if you will, updates after the visit from dni head, national security and state and maybe connecting this with the president's meeting with president of angola, on trade. >> harris: you have john kirby there talking about what it took to get this deal done between israel and hamas and what the white house is hoping will happen is they can make good use of extra two days in ceasefire. it is interesting, qatar and i have it right here, they called

it an ongoing mediation and agreement. actually it does not say truce and in what they say. i didn't see that until others started reporting it and that is important. any break in fighting allows the enemy to regroup, regain, rearm, so-and-so. this is not necessarily truce, they certainly are not sitting down. >> raymond: no, and they are using the hostages as leverage to stop this war. everyone is playing into their hands. your heart breaks for the families and for the israelis wondering where their family members are. in 2012, they traded fighters and they got a corporal back,

they released yaya, who orchestrated this attack tlchl is price to pay by continuing to play this game of trading lives and treating lives as if it is currency, it is precious life. we have to draw a line in the sand. >> harris: i think you leave no one behind and i understand what you are saying, but then you say to the world, we're with israel and you go in and take those scorpions out, get as many hostages and as many ceasefires as you can, they are rearming and have iranian-backed weapons. you can't just lay down on the ground and do negotiations forever. but you reach a point, your thoughts? >> >> marie: that is right, this is how we get hostages home. hamas takes hostages, if we want israelis and american home, this is how we do it.

be clear, before this ceasefire, this truce, whatever word we are using, israel did damage to hamas, backed by american firepower and after this ends, after we get hostages, they will do it again. i think this is how we get these videos we've seen of nine-year-old sons being reunited with their fathers, this is it and biden team negotiating with qatar behind the scenes but powerfully to get people out and that relationship is important here. >> harris: when you say the u.s. and israel go in and we get hostages and i don't know who is dealing with pij, palestinian islamic jihadist, john kirby said he doesn't know which hostages are with them. >> raymond: we are not in charge of the list. >> harris: what about the rest of the region? they ought to be joining us and in my mind, marie says go get hostages and then go kill

everybody that did this. >> kayleigh: that is the key question, marie, you say they have been negotiating powerfully, we have gotten hostages back, who should have never been hostages. this administration has not shown strength on the world stage, one question that should have been asked was not asked in that briefing, i didn't hear it, my question if i'm a correspondent, why have you not redesignated houthis as terrorist organization? guess who did? president trump in 2021, they were delisted by the biden administration and now we learn houthis are trying to hijack ships, why have you not listed them? mike pompeo told me it is inexcusable. why have you not listed them? >> harris: we have been talking about sudan and not a lot of people are. spend a second, we have a lot of

hate and evil and rape and beheading and all of that, you are seeing in other places, darfur has seen a lot of atrocities, evil is on the march. i post about this a lot, notice in sudan, house to house looking for nonarabs and killing them. the biden white house was part of a ceasefire negotiation along with saudiingseses and it didn't hold. >> kayleigh: the list of people i pray for every night continues to grow. beginning of year, people in ukraine and now israel and all over the world, some stories don't get enough attention or as much as they deserve. part of this issue is what is going to happen after this war ends and president biden said he wants a two-state solution, which will not fly with israel.

"wall street journal" op ed called palestinian authority and fatah jb hamas. they denied the music festival attack took place. they said if it did, israel killed their own people. there are questions who takes over this region and what is to come when fighting ends. originally pointed out by lucas tomlinson, president made a speech after the first american was released, little abigail and one interesting moment he talked about the future of hamas and he chose his words carefully and started to say, the goal for hamas should be complete and almost sounded like hes was going to say eradication, he stopped himself and said that hamas no longer controls the

gaza strip thachl is in opposition with what israel wants. i did think that was notable. >> harris: it is notable, what would they want? relocation development program for hamas. as long as they are in gaza, they will kill israelis. >> it is in their charter. >> harris: threat to service members intensifying. two ballistic missiles were fired at the uss mason from a part of yemen controlled by the houthi rebels and that is what kayleigh is saying, call them what they are, they are terrorists. those missiles could have easily killed americans, they missed with no damage to the ship or injury reported to the 380 crew members. the attempted attack is being viewed as significant escalation

by the houthis. john kirby who was speaking moments ago, here is a bit on that. we've responded forcefully against threats in iraq and syria and our forces in gulf region, gulf of amman and aden as appropriate. >> is striking in yemen still an option? >> i will not telegraph punches, we will take steps to protect forces in the middle east region. the mason is attached to the uss eisenhower strike group, which the president dispatched to the region to address the increase in tension. >> harris: that extra part, we've been hit 73 times, when do we do the thing that stops 74? >> harris: you heard ed o'keefe ask, do you think of changing

policy in the wake of being attacked? i will not tell you the plan from the podium, but the press corps need to look at the secretary and say there are bipartisan efforts, letter sent by moskowitz and michael waltz to blinken saying this is not enough, redesignate the houthis and ask why are democratic congressmen calling for stricter policy? they need to push this administration and not ask softball questions. israeli we are inviting aggression because your posture, you don't want to offend anybody and austins we don't want this gaza situation to spread, no one does, but it is spreading. they are attacking israeli-owned carrier ships in the gulf. we need a commander-in-chief to stand up, call terrorists what they are and take a strong

footing so you repel that kind of aggression. >> harris: you talked about adding things to your prayers. i add this one for military men and women out there like sitting ducks, many sitting in bases and they will defamation as best they can, you have groups all over the region aiming at our bases backed by iran. i had a general tell me, why are men and women there at this point? why not pull them back? your quick thought before we go to break. >> marie: the u.s. has taken action in syria and struck iranian backed groups in syria. iraq is more complicated, they are hesitant there given the relationship with the government and internal situation there. we want them to be tougher and push back and want attacks to stop, what does that look like? redesignate the houthis, we can talk about that, this

administration put over 50 additional sanctions on iran, are we talking about striking iran in iran? >> kayleigh: take out soleimani-type figure like trump did. >> that did not stop attacks. >> not a single american died. >> raymond: how about declaring what your objective is and who you stand with and stop the two step. >> harris: i agree, show the end game, generals have been talking about the fact and colonels, when you leave our border unprotectd and men and women serving in middle east and you look at the map with 73 attack and how many of them are there, when is the president going to pay attention to the u.s. border? one border sector is so overwhelmed they are cutting back on social media. the pushback on them pulling back their first-hand account of the crisis, next. veterans, if you're applying for a home loan

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>> kayleigh: border crisis set a new record last week in tucson, arizona sector, the most encounters ever in one week. tucson border patrol is overwhelmed and pulling resources. their chief patrol agent said this, in light of ongoing migration surge, social media accounts will be paused until further notice and accounts temporarily reduced to maximize available staffing in support of current operational challenges, adding all available personnel are needed to address unprecedented flow and will return once the situation permit

and the agent apologized for posting and assured the sector would continue to be t transparent. >> i was looking at his social media account today and one post is a week in review posted last week. tucson sector had over 15,000 apprehensions and seized 117 pounds of fentanyl. this situation across the board with the southern border feels like a ticking timebomb. bill melugin said border patrol released unwant -- do you think that guy isset wonl one? that is concerning. the other thing, what is going on with air marshals?

they are not on planes, they are being sent to the border. -- said air marshals are not on planes, they are at the border doing administrative work. they are on planes for quiet skies when they follow people who were in washington, d.c. on january 6ths, they did not have to be at the capitol. it feels like a ticking timebomb. >> kayleigh: president biden needs to get a handle on this. >> marie: yeah, i think a lot of democrats will tell you this is the issue they are most concerned about politically, also for security reasons, i'm not downplaying that. talking politics, this is up there. they have tried to surge

resources to the border, there is border security funding tied up in congress right now with the israel-ukraine funding bill. >> harris: should it be there? >> >> marie: i'm not sure congress can figure anything out, the administration can't do it on their own. >> kayleigh: they can do remain in mexico. >> marie: it was not perfect under president trump. >> raymond: heck of a lot better, marie. >> marie: at the detriment of progressive base. he is trying to find solutions. >> harris: who cares about the progressive base, do you need votes this badly? he says he can beat anybody, just watch me, he says. >> raymond: we've been at the border, you see how border agents have been turned, in their words, to travel agent of every migrant entering the country and that is what we're

seeing. they are surging and poor guy can't tweet because they need to register these people. what happens? reality is, funds for the border go to ngo's that are basically more travel concierge for migrants to go anywhere in the interior united states. or make sure they get healthcare. that is a human right. >> harris: a human right is to give healthcare to people who come here illegally? >> when accompanied children show up malnurrished and freezing -- >> harris: now you are layering on. >> marie: i said basically. >> chief owens. i follow him on the x. he said over the weekend, we've arrested two sex offenders, one subject with a warrant, molestation of minor, indecency

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>> top of the hour, we will head live to trey yingst, as the white house updates whether more americans are set to be released. busiest travel season continue as man make their way home from thanksgiving travel. live update from chicago's

o' o'hare airport and moments from now president biden is expected to deliver an address. and we'll listen for remarks about the ongoing hostage situation. join john and me live as "america reports" top of the hour. >> harris: we have another instance of rules are for thee, not for me. this time, gas stoves, take your hands off my delicious pie-making gas stove. vice president kamala harris shared this photo of herself and the second gentlemen cooking on thanksgiving. they do look cute. several people were quick to point out that gas stove right there next to them, is it bad optics considering the biden administration floated a crackdown on the popular appliance? i'll bet the food was good.

>> marie: very sweet picture, i think everyone needs to have more grace. >> harris: are you good with a ban on gas stoves? >> marie: i don't think there will be a pan on gas stoves. but i am going to get a convection -- >> harris: i don't know what he's going to do. it tastes great. >> harris: you have had it that way? i will cling to my gas stove. >> kayleigh: looks at responses and nearly 100% all pointed at the gas stove, it is a cute picture of the vice president and her husband, but is that a gas stove? circled in red with arrows pointing to it. this picture cured division on social media, cherish that.

department of energy put it out, leave it to viewers to determine if that is a ban. remember how we had the covid hypocrisy slow scroll on this show, scrolled names not wearing mask accident we need a climate change hypocrisy slow scroll and add these two to the list with the gas stove. harry and meghan with their jet. >> harris: you did add one. >> raymond: the vice president needs to use editing features, crop out the gas stove and have a happy thanksgiving. the killer here, gas gate is related, nobody could get their hair done without nancy pelosi. >> harris: tell me, i walked around with a throw. >> carley: un climate summit is taking place in dubai, everybody flying in their private jets.

>> raymond: makes it sound like you are a hypocrite when you say stop the gas stove and save the climate, but at home you don't practice that, that is the glaring omission of thanksgiving and it is sad because otherwise it is a nice picture, use the edit. >> harris: crop out the gas stove. i like when people show who they are. i wanted a wider shot. >> where are the dirty dishes. >> raymond: filling up the private plane in the backyard. >> harris: "outnumbered" continues.

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a lot of these purchases, 64% say they are buying clothing and food, gift cards, i can see buying that for yourself but i hope it's not a pattern. we want christmas to be serving and giving to other and showing affection and love to others and if you are a christian, the christ child, that's part of the tradition of christmas. i would hope it's not self-reference, unless they are buying my christmas merry and bright cd, in which case, buy them all. >> speaking of plugs, can we get one? >> i was going to say you can and kamala harris wants to make some recipes on her gas stove, she can with cooking with friends. available, amazon or fox news. >> very good gift. >> it's a best seller. >> and i have an a copy of it. marie, totally right, black friday being some don't shop their christmas shopping yet. >> i have a list on the phone of the gifts i need to buy. some are for other people and a

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