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understand what is going on all over the country and will be a key demographic since georgia is a swing state. what do you want to discuss tonight? >> the economy. >> lawrence: why the economy? >> you know, we've been hit hard, especially in the south, i believe. it is important that we bring that economy up. >> lawrence: the economy and you're not alone. >> no, uh-uh. >> lawrence: i'm not surprised. she told me to skip her. you listen to southern women, when they say skip you. ma'am, what is the number one issue you want discussed tonight? >> homelessness and the economy. >> why homelessness? >> because it is ruining states and ruining lives and not being taken care of, especially in california. >> what is the number one issue? >> the economy and people are
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moving out of california, exiting california and moving to florida. >> lawrence: you're a business owner. >> i am. i can understand why florida would be number one because desantis has made it that way. he's gone a great governor and i just feel like he should be -- it should be a cake walk for him tonight against newsom. >> lawrence: you've heard from the great state of florida, they believe ron desantis is strong on the issue, what will newsom say tonight? third hour of "fox and friends" starts now. >> ainsley: this is a fox news alert, george santos holding a press conference ahead of tomorrow's vote to potentially expel him from congress. let's listen in. we can all look back and say, this is not how i thought this year would go or people in the
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media thought this year would go. it is unfortunate circumstance i have to sit here and watch american people waste -- congress waste the american people's time over and over again on something that is the power of the people, not the power of congress to remove and -- to elect and remove members of congress. some circumstances and allegations, but there has been a long-standing precedent in the house, every member that has been expelled and they are trying to join me to the group of three confederates and two people convicteds in a court of law. if i get expelled tomorrow, i will be number six in history, first republican and only out conviction or having committed treason, that is where we stand today on that sense. let me go down a few things to
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give you a sense of congress today. it represents chaos, we have a house that doesn't work for the people. we have a house with severe allegations against them having gall and courage to call the speaker a joke. i read that today in politico, reading about members of congress trying to smear one of the most honorable members of our conference. that is where we stooped to, people with rap sheets call out other people for their policy. seco secondly, it is amazing this house continues to want to push me out and we have secretary mayorkas who committed dereliction of his duty, who has put all americans in danger.
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last night rockefeller christmas tree lighting, one of the most beautiful celebrations in new york city, most peaceful. yesterday we had a band of vandals who thought appropriate to fight the nypd. this is yesterday and that is on secretary mayorkas. a lot of people are not because they love this country or want best for this country, why are they here? it is from the inside, that is what you get when you have open border and administration oshg obli oblivious. we have a member that took a plea deal. he took a plea deal for pulling a fire alarm which obstructed and delays an official hearing and proceeding on the house floor. had that been any other person, one of the members of media, a
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republican member of congress, we all know that person would have been charged with obstructing a congressional hearing, just like the 140 people sitting in prison right now because of january 6. but jamaal bowman gets a pass. today at noon, i will introduce expulsion of convicted and guilty pleaded congressman jamaal bowman and i stand there, that is consistency, hold our own account sxabl do it with the house. if the house wants to expel me, that is going to be the undoing of a lot of members of this body because this will haunt them in the future where mere allegations are sufficient to have members removed from office when duly elected by people in their respective states and
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districts. bear that in mind, i will make this a brief comment on the process here taking place with the ethics committee. by admission of the chairman himself, he said the pros was not full-throttle, not complete, it would require months in order for the committee to offer any kind of punishment. instead they decide to stop short of completing the process, going ahead and putting out a slanderous report, unprecedented. nobody here has seen ethics report of anyone else, changing p precedence for me, seems fair game. they release this report, littered in hyperbole, littered in opinion that would have no decent cop would bring this to a
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prosecutor or da and say here is our report, go ahead and charge him. that is the ethics committee, god bless them and what they think they are doing and what their work is. they do good work when relevant, this ain't it. this is a brief opportunity for a couple of questions in an orderly fashion without screaming at me, we'll go by hands. >> mr. santos, why didn't you participate? they said you were not cooperating with them and you being -- >> i cooperated and provided them every document for the most part. >> mr. santos. >> you said this is distraction to institution, i know you have been getting this question a lot, is this truly a distraction to institution, why not resign? >> if i leave, they win. if i leave, the bullies, this is
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bullying. the chair of the committee putting out a motion to expel, not kwauling its privilege, designed to force me to resign. he didn't have the fortitude to call the privilege, he had someone else do it, someone who recently done one on me, which is congressman, deespisito. it is theater for the american people at the expense of the american people. go ahead. >> you talked about a lot of transgressions of other congress, have you made formal complaints? >> i will be filing a slew of complaints in the coming hours of today and tomorrow to make sure we keep the playing field even. at this point, i have been nothing but generous and kind with my time. i have not raised my voice or a single finger against another member of this body, now i guess
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it is fair game to continue to do that. go ahead. >>-- [indiscernible] -- >> i told you the other day, i'm not unpacking the report, it is counterproductive to do so at this time. there will be a time i will unpack it and go line by line. i will go line by line when the time is proper. go ahead. >> i want to get a statement this morning -- number one, investigated -- [indiscernible] -- removed from congress before he was convicted last year. >> he resigned. he resigned, the reality, he resigned. he resigned. go ahead. >> you mentioned many members of congress have rap sheets, are you going to name them? why not put their names out?
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>> why do i have to do your job for you? do you like digging up stuff on me, dig up on other members, it's out in the open. go ahead. >> you talked about the process of being bullied, why do you think you are being bullied? >> it is the third time and each time for different reasons and they just keep going. i don't know, ask them, i don't care. go ahead. >> i know you have been asked this before, are accusations against you true? >> i said this many times, i'm fighting to defend myself as soon as i have the opportunity. go ahead. >> what do you say to constituents who feel you are not serving them while this is going on? >> that is not true, i have two district offices in new york and they are constantly busy with folks coming in from simple as need for expedited pasport to complex immigration issues. there is one thing to deters
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people walking in, when we have crowds of media outside the office. that does interfere. people don't want to be on camera, they don't want exposure of them. the services there, i nominated applicants to the service academies and had four gotten accepted and i did that earlier than most in this building. i have a staff, veteran staff in leadership and my d.c. office and district office and the operation runs pretty smooth. we have not had complaintses other than organized, george santos groups. i had people who opposed me, but we do best and open to everybody. the thing i like to do most is serve the people and talk to them. do you expect the -- these are
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items you could say, did not happen, you have not participated in these things, why wait until after the vote comes down to address the major issues. >> i didn't say i was waiting for the vote to come down. >> it is coming down tomorrow. >> i understand it is a different schedule, not the schedule of the house. go ahead, sir. do you expect the expulsion bill to pass? if so, why this time? >> the way i look at this, the congressman said he has 150 votes. if he does, as he said on the record, he has the votes, plain and simple. >> why do you think the votes have changed? >> quite a few members say they won't vote for this, do you have a message? >> i have spoken to different members, i do not ask people to come in my defense, i did not whip it, did not whip it the first two times and i stay
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steadfast. this is my battle and i don't want to drag people into this nonsensical operation. i thank them for their courage, it takes courage to stand up for people, especially in my position. i thank them and these are people i will never forget. >> you said this has been a year from hell for you, knowing where you are today, would you have done it all over again? >> i would have done things different, i would have stayed away from a lot of people. this is grace ashford from "new york times," you know me because of her. interesting to see you here. i will say this, today is my second year wedding anniversary and i'm going to enjoy it and try to forget the fact it has been a year from hell. i would do a few things differently. >> you said you believe -- you expect to be successful, can you reflect on and describe your
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11-month tenure in congress? >> sure, i'm proud of my voting record. i'm proud of the work i got to do and i came in as a mad as hell activist who was disenfranchised from the government, did not believe anything was getting done. i got to see how sausage was made, how this operates, i get to take that story back to the american people. this is why we don't see progress. i leave here no regrets as far as voting goes or advocacy for bills go, every issue from healthcare taken up with insulin or gay rights,a broad, foreign aid, i stand firm i'm proud of the work i put forward. i wish i could do more. if this is it, this is it. shantay? >> what would you say to -- and
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your colleagues that say there is enough evidence [indiscernible] -- >> they are all judge, jury and executioner, it is not a verdict and allegations neither. the way they look at this, they need a reason to do it, that is why the ethics committee released that statement to give them cover and vote no. little over two weeks ago, give them option to change their vote this time around. first time i give you a question. >> [indiscernible] -- >> no, nothing, absolutely nothing. these are six years old. i'm sorry. go on the website. these are six years old. go ahead. >> have you spoken again with speaker johnson and what do you make of his comments --
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>> i have not spoken to him since i spoke to him last. >> what about -- >> rich, good to see you here. >> do you think you are representing the district well when you said you will not run for reelection and you are tired of the drama, there is a lot of drama and not a lot of focus on -- >> if you put into perspective, every lame duck member of congress is -- is that what you are say something >> you are saying you won't run for reelection, but you won't resign. >> i chose not to put myself and my family through this process. you are a local long islander, i would have an uphill battle against the press, against the party, you know what, there is a point in time when you say enough is enough, i'm 35, it doesn't mean goodbye forever.
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that is all i can say. yes, sir. >> how do you think of how the speaker handled this situation the third time around? >> i didn't want this on the speaker's hands, i didn't want the speaker to deal with this, he has bigger things like funding the government, passing appropriations bills and getting the house back in order. the man is a gentleman, exemplary member of this body and does a great job. we may not always agree with him, he does the best effort to put out best he can do there. >> you mention you don't operate on congress' timeline whachl is your timeline and what is your future? >> i don't know, the future is endless, you can do whatever you want next and i will do whatever i want. i have desire to stay involved
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in public policy and advocacy for specific issues and we have an entire presidential campaign coming up in 2024 and i think i've made this clear, i won't rest until i see donald trump back in the white house. last question. >> hi. i spoke with jamaal bowman yesterday and he just said it is long overdue that you resign or be expelled. >> it is long overdue he also get his day, he pleaded to pulling a fire alarm, obstructing an official proceeding. i put the timeline out, none of you picked it up, from the moment he pulled the alarm to show up in house, it was an hour later. there was not a vote to rush. it was a rush to stall the vote to figure out if they were going to vote yay or nay. thank you for coming out, i appreciate the time. we will continue to do this.
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i will put out invitation request. we will do another pen and pad later in my office. thank you. >> steve: that was thoroughly entertaining. >> brian: what was that? my goodness. we knew he wasn't going to quit. >> steve: couple weeks ago, u.s. attorney in new york charged him with conspiracy, wire fraud, falsification of record and credit card fraud, as well. chad pergram, he was talking about the ethics investigation which said he misspent campaign dough and he said no, i haven't been proven guilty. >> that is the problem some republicans and democrats have with possibly moving to expel him. he's not been convicted in a court of law, something house speaker mike johnson has said, this would be setting a p
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precedence. only been three confederate sympathizers expelled from the house and myers, a democrat from pennsylvania dispelled in 1980 and jim traficant, who was expelled from the house in 2002. that is the problem speaker johnson has and a lot of members have and he's willing to say, let me open the door and try to expel jamaal bowman. he pulled the fire alarm. this is the tit-for-tat that mike johnson is trying to get away from. >> brian: will he go through with this motion? he can do that, i will offer expulsion motion for jamaal bowman? >> absolutely, it is a privilege resolution, house has to take it up within two days. if the vote comes tomorrow and
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he's expelled, this probably withers on the vine. there are some who think jamaal bowman should face action. nicole malliotakis introduced a motion and we think that vote will go tomorrow. the reason it is hard to expel someone and the constitution spells this out, article one section five. there have been three failed expulsions, big embarrassment to republicans if they were to have a vote here and fail to expel him. >> ainsley: how can they do this if he hasn't been proven guilty yet? what are the specifics? >> steve: he spent a bunch of dough. >> ainsley: on what specifically? >> there was allegations he built his campaign donors and turned that campaign cash around and spent on luxury items, a
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porn website, botox treatment and this is the interesting thing, he said, they did not finish their work. michael guest, chair of the ethics committee, said it would take another year to recommend a penalty. usually the ethics committee go through an investigation and they argue santos was not cooperative, he says something else. they usually recommend a punishment and did not. guest introduced his own expulsion resolution, not in his official position, but as rank and file member and that was put into play on tuesday and that is why this has to come up today. we think debate today and vote tomorrow. >> steve: so messy. >> ainsley: if he does stay, the
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next election is following november. he says he will not run again next year. >> brian: tom suaze had that seat and that is last victory he's had. >> steve: nobody knows this better than you, chad. >> ainsley: republicans fear that. they are scared to lose the seat. broke tom suaze is known as moderate democrat. >> steve: see what happens, it will get messy. >> brian: he enjoyed that. >> steve: we enjoyed it. >> brian: never saw guy under stress enjoy it so much. >> ainsley: hes a lot of people have done things wrong. why aren't you releasing the names? you want me to do your job for you? >> steve: not going quietly. >> ainsley: did you buy those
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shoes with campaign money? no, these are six years old. >> brian: 18 months old. >> ainsley: how does he remember six years? >> brian: he made it up, good at making things up. >> steve: more on that later, in the meantime, to our top story before george santos, another fox news alert. former secretary of state henry kissinger passed away yesterday at the age of 100. >> ainsley: our next guest knew kissinger well and considered him a mentor. >> brian: kt mcfarland joins us now. it is time to reflect on henry kissinger's accomplishments, what are your thoughts when you heard? >> he presided over a golden era at the time he came into office with richard nixon, january of 1969, the united states was less
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than a decade past the cuban missile crisis. what did kissinger do? found a way with the soviet union and arms agreement. in the middle of vietnam, he found way to have paris peace accords ending that war. china, we didn't know what would happen, it was a third world country. he broke china off and had relations with the united states and finally the middle east peace negotiate. 1973 war was first yom kippur war, similar to the war we are having now and kissinger was able to negotiate between israel and egypt and jordan and syria to have peace. >> ainsley: what was he like? when you were sitting in a room or showing pictures? looks like you were in the oval office with him, what was he like? >> he was my first boss, i
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started working for him, i was 19 years old, night-time secretary, freshman in college. the white house was more informal place and national security council had less than 100 people on it, including people like me, secretaries. now it has 20 times that many. i got to know my bos well and got to know kissinger and he would give me words of encouragement or sometimes ignore me. if he didn't think you were doing your job, he wouldn't say anything to you at all. if he did think you were he would give you -- >> i came back and joined the reagan admin strigz. but in the trump administration, i had arranged for kissinger to brief donald trump several times and when donald trump was elected, henry kissinger said go
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to the white house and be deputy national security advisor. that picture was me welcoming my old boss into the oval office where he welcomed me in 45 years before. >> brian: shame you were not able to do your job and got screwed on that. >> steve: he changed your life. the thing about henry kissinger is, during the '60s and '70s, there were existential threats. treaties we have today are based on things he did back in the day. >> we have time over last several years to do reflecting, he said he wanted to save american lives, and he said, i feel i've done that, middle east peace and the value of henry has been after he left office. he continued to go around the world and consult world leaders
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and became close to chinese leaders, he even met with putin a number of times. putin came to his apartment. he met with margaret thatcher and the value of kissinger, he could go back channel and explain, this is american foreign policy, this is what we need. he was a translator to both sides, american interest, foreign leaders, foreign leaders to the u.s., that was his greatest peace keeper role. a number of us are worried with kissinger gone and not able to talk to china or really play the role of broker, peacemaker, there will be a lot more misunderstanding between united states and china in a dangerous period. >> brian: he was just over there, he made that long journey. thank you, we appreciate it. honor and pleasure.
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thank you. >> brian: i cannot wait 9:00 eastern time, governor desantis against governor newsom and the thing that sticks out, we've been watching debates for people from the same party. personal background checks, not telling the truth here. but these two have different policy beliefs, background, so much room for definition and clash, they do disagree. look at haley, chris christie and desantis. >> ainsley: totally different views, immigration, look at taxes and homeless population, school choice. >> steve: this is what fox news channel has been about for decades, we report, you decide. sean hannity will moderate it in georgia. that is where lawrence jones is this morning.
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lawrence. >> lawrence: good morning, we have a big debate tonight. i asked what is most pressing issue you want discussed tonight and you said what? >> i want to know how our southern border is going to be secured. it is disturbing that right now this administration does not care. >> lawrence: who do you agree more with, the gavin newsom approach or ron desantis approach to the border? >> does gavin newsom have an approach? i think ron desantis did a wonderful job in florida, in all aspects of governing that sthat and would have a real, strong firm direction as far as securing the border. >> lawrence: you heard it first here in georgia. i asked you the question and you said it is about national security. what do you expect to hear from gavin newsom on national security? >> i agree, i don't think there is a lot he will say about it.
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9/11 scared us to death and we are close, or in worse shape and need to get national security under control. >> lawrence: we talk national securities, we talk about the border, one major issue facing this country is crime. this guy knows, he's the sheriff here. you will have ron desantis, crime is not bad in florida. but when you have california, they allow criminals to steal -- that is right, people to steal, less than $1000 and it is just a misdemeanor, would you allow that in your town? >> no, no. no. it is unreal, unbelievable. the silent majority has to wake up and take america back. the winner of the debate tonight might be sean hannity, i don't know. we got to do something. if we don't take america back on
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this next election, we can cut the light off, we need to move to mexico because they are all up here. it is crazy. >> lawrence: thank you, sheriff. back to ainsley in new york. [cheering] >> ainsley: awesome, that was funny. >> lawrence: don't ask people in the south what they feel, if you don't want the real answer. >> steve: straight shooter, i think the sheriff is right, the winner is sean hannity in that time slot, i'm sure the most watched show of the week. >> brian: i'll go back to mark penn, who said big upside, big downside. if either person is exposed of not backing up policy or knowing the others, that is not going to be 2028. this is the 2024 debate. a lot of people look and this is
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our future. >> steve: ron desantis is running right now, of the two, peril could be in his lane. >> ainsley: starts 9:00, 9:00 to 10:30 and 90 minutes of talking and analysis and we'll have analysis tomorrow. still ahead "americas newsroom" host dana perino will join us next. for long-lasting cough and sore throat relief. try new robitussin lozenges with real medicine and find your voice. you know? we really need to work on your people skills.
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my team at newday usa is going to do everything we possibly can to make sure that veteran gets that loan. >> brian: back with a fox business exclusive, internal documents from youtube company shows biden white house pushed to censor matters related to vaccine misinformation.
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hillary vaughn has details. hillary. >> these documents are latest example how the biden white house tried to bow beat big tech to get them to censor covid-19 content they did not like. they did not care if content was right or wrong, if it was not pro-vaccine, they wanted it taken down. the president's team turned up the pressure on gooigle. flaherty -- e-mailing google's team this, i'm curious, saw this tweet, we had extensive back and forth to the degree you were recommending antivaccine content. you said you are not, this shows you are.
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the example of anti-va x content include video of rand paul in a vaccine debate with jfk jr. the pressure from biden's team did not let up, sparking concern among youtube employees. the drop in demand for covid shot. the role of tech in addressing vaccine hesitancy is about to come under massive spotlight, the vaccine will outpace demand. youtube team came up with strategy to prevent anything from spiralling out of control. we don't know what youtube feared would spiral out of control, we tried to ask the white house for comment and did not hear back.
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brian. >> brian: amazing. more revelation a year from when twitter file got exposed. over to carley. >> carley: fox news alert, secretary of state antony blinken is in the west bank meeting with abbas and he met earlier with prime minister netanyahu. a spokesperson for benjamin netanyahu joined us earlier. >> that is not in question, we will finish the job, when hamas stops releasing more hostages, we will stop the pause and resume fighting. hamas must be gone. >> carley: hamas claiming responsibility for an attack in the holy city that left three dead and 11 hurt, this comes as more hostages expected to be released today and ceasefire extended one more day. we are just learning dr. fauci has agreed to meet before
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congress next year with house sub-committee starting january 8th. fauci will testify sometime next year, a date has not been set, former chief medical advisor to president biden retired last year. those are the headlines, over to you. >> steve: thank you. 19 before the top of the hour and a fox news alert. former secretary of state, henry kissinger, one of the world's most admired diplomats, passed away yesterday. he was 100. dana perino joins us right now. i'm sure you ran across him a number of times. >> dana: couple of times. i was thinking back, as deputy press secretary one time, president bush was going to pay a visit. we went to his home. >> steve: wow. >> dana: they said that myself and another staffer, we could
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just wait in kissinger's personal library. i went up there and i didn't want to touch anything. it was homey, a lot of books. i just remember sitting there and standing and looking around. i also remember how warm he was and what a life of consequence. you can read great obituarieses, neil ferg usson and the rolling stone one is horrendous, but this is a life of consequence. remember how complicated the cold war was and what he did in advising two presidents and being available and friendly to others and friends to all of us in different ways, i think we can all learn about making your mark in the world. >> steve: he left a big mark.
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he was on the show a number of times. we would all be talking to him and i would sit there thinking, i'm talking to henry kissinger. >> dana: i know. i read a back last year called "the kid stays in the picture" by the producer of "the godfather." they were good friends and one point robert evans was going through a bad time and going to a party and felt down in the dumps and henry kissinger called and said, i will go with you. he understood power he had and ability to help somebody else out. >> steve: i know you will start your show in 17 not ms. in 12 hours and 17 minutes is the great debate, red versus blue state, desantis versus newsom, what are you looking for? >> dana: i am so excited, i set my dvr, i think this debate a
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lot of people want to see and might be more debate you have in 2028. it is not necessarily those two people, though it could be, it is about the ideology. how do you move forward? i feel like desantis has so many good facts on his side and he's super smart and newsom has that sunshine and charisma. there will not be an audience. newsom knew it might not work in his favor. sean hannity is an excellent interviewer, i will be sitting there watching the whole thing. >> steve: sean has interviewed them both multiple times. >> steve: people will be watching, why isn't that california guy the nominee instead of joe biden. >> dana: do you think the white house will be thinking that? the staff might.
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>> steve: your show starts in 14 minutes, who is on? >> dana: dr. siegel will be on and epic dana reads sports and dan seymore, we have whole extravaganza planned at 9:00 a.m. karl rove again, excellent. >> steve: you can't shake that guy. coming up, live look at capitol hill, where new york state congressman george santos says he will not resign ahead of third expulsion vote and will introduce to expel jamaal bowman. it is newsom versus desantis tonight on fox. lawrence is in georgia, where it will take place, coming up next. holiday shopping got easier
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the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. >> brian: car crashing into a capitol barricade earlier this morning. police are on the scene. they believe the crash was not deliberate. bring you the latest as we learn more. also on capitol hill in about 30 minutes ago a defiant congressman george santos speaking out slamming the push
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to expel him from the house. senior congressional correspondent chad pergram joints us. put it in perspective. >> the house has only expelled five members in history and concern about expelling sunlit owes because he hasn't been convicted of anything. he spoke outside the capitol earlier this morning and says he will not resign. listen. >> if i leave, the bullies take place. this is bullying. the chair of the committee putting out a motion to expel just introducing it and not calling its privilege was designed to force me to resign. >> the house ethics committee did not recommend a punishment. michael guest. republican from mississippi, drew up an expulsion resolution and that will be on the floor today for debate. the vote is planned tomorrow. george santos believes the
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process has been corrupt. >> they decided to stop short of completing the process, going ahead and putting out a slanderous report, unprecedented. nobody here has seen ethics reports of any other members under investigation. yet again changing precedent for me it seems that it's all fair game. >> there have been two other resolutions to try to throw out george santos. both subject to a motion to table or effort to block this from going to the floor. there is a question as to whether or not republicans might move to table this resolution again. the chair of the democratic caucus had this to say. >> a motion to protect george santos, a motion to keep him as a member of congress to protect their thin majority, to protect speaker johnson, and his thin agenda here. >> republicans currently have a four-seat majority. the bar is high to expel a member. expulsion requires 2/3 of all
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house members to vote yes. back to you. >> brian: thorough report, crazy presser. ainsley. >> ainsley: thank you, as the cease-fire between israel and hamas extends one more day 12 more families are breathing a sigh of relieved after loved ones were released yesterday. among them the family of a person who turned 16 while being held hostage by hamas. the cousin survived the attack at a kibbutz but suffered the loss of her father during the horrific events of october 7th. ella joins us now to react to what she calls the bittersweet moment for her family. ella, thank you so much for coming on with us. you are only 14 years old. you saw things that no one should see in their lifetime. we were thrilled to find out that your cousin, we've interviewed family members in your family about him and praying for him and he was released yesterday. how is he doing?
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>> i don't know much about how amit is doing. i did talk to him but it was i who was mostly talking because i had to tell him how proud of him i am how much i love him. he was exhausted. i couldn't hear much from here. we're in yu farah with the fact he is back. >> ainsley: what did you see on that day, october 7th? >> after we got out of the safe room and went outside. >> ainsley: you were in the safe room with your mom, your brother and brother's friend and your father had been killed at that point, right? >> yes. very much so. >> ainsley: what did you see? >> everything was in ruins. i remember everything was on fire around us and there were exploded cars everywhere and
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there were trails of blood on the roads everywhere we walked on the sidewalks and on the side of the sidewalks there were bodies covered everywhere. it looked like a battlefield. >> ainsley: what about your dad, ella, what happened? >> i could not identify the body obviously since i'm a minor. the body's condition was too graphic for me to see it. i was told that he was shot and burned. but i'm just holding on to the hope that he died from being shot. >> ainsley: i understand as you were when you came out of the safe room you saw one of your brother's friends with blood all over his face. what happened to his family? his father died and his baby sister -- he watched them being shot. did they survive, the dad an
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baby sister who was ten months old? >> no, they were both killed in the safe room. his mother was also shot and taken to the hospital. and they were both taken to their uncles'. my brother is a friend of them and they went to a museum together a few weeks ago and to a restaurant and they tried to cheer them up, you know. >> ainsley: ella, when i was told we were interviewing you i saw your age and thought how brave. how do you go on with your life and how are you doing? >> there is not really life to go on. i am now in l.a. explaining and giving testimony about what happened and we can't go back to our house right now. our family is staying in a hotel which is obviously not a
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solution. we can't live in a hotel the rest of our lives. you know, i kind of -- i'm not learning right now. i am not in school and not doing my sports and not doing anything, just these are not my life. everything changed completely. nothing is like it used to be. >> ainsley: i'm so sorry. you said you didn't get to mourn your dad. you just buried him. i didn't get to tell him i loved him, i was proud of him or call him dad. as a parent he loves you unconditionally and knows you love him and you will see him again one day in paradise. god bless you. >> amen. thank you very much. >> ainsley: over to you, brian. >> brian: another big story. governor desantis and gavin newsom debating tonight on fox moderated by sean hannity. his brain child. what do voters think?
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lawrence jones knows. he will work the crowd again in georgia. lawrence. [applause] >> lawrence: i don't know much, but i know that the folks of georgia, especially the folks at 219 know the big story of the day. what's the top issue you want discussed on the debate stage tonight? >> something done about the economy. groceries shouldn't cost more than rent. let's do something about the border as well. it is a different time now and it is not like it was four years ago. >> lawrence: groceries shouldn't cost more than rent. that's good. what's the number one issue? >> love to hear about their plans for inflation. >> what's the number one issue facing this country. >> border issue and inflation. >> same thing, border and inflation. >> lawrence: what do you think? >> cut spending in washington. >> lawrence: do you think if republicans get elected they put their foot down with the
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spending? >> they need to. >> lawrence: what do you think is the number one issue facing the country. >> economy is horrible. border is out of control. i want ron desantis to dominate tonight and kick some booty. [applause] >> lawrence: i'll end it with this jar of bloody mary. that's what i'll drink at the end of this show. this great place, thank you for doing this. >> brian: virgin bloody mary, thank you. >> ainsley: he will be in georgia interviewing people about the debate. >> steve: we can have the vodka in it because we're off the air in eight seconds. [gunfire

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