over darkness. this year many families will light their menorahs without their loved ones. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. >> bill: love the red, by the way. >> dana: merry christmas. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. jewish people around the world and this country observe the first night of hanukkah the world marks two months since the barbaric massacre of 1200 people in southern israel. surging anti-semitism reaching a fever pitch sparking alarms around the world. >> dana: a clear-cut moment calling for moral clarity. the president of harvard, u penn and m.i.t. refused to condemn anti-semitism on campus calling for the genocide of jews. >> bill: the "new york post" declared their testimony a day of college shame. incoming also coming from one of their own colleagues, the president of pepperdine in california scolding his fellow

university leaders. >> free speech is an important part of enlightened self-governance but so is learning the american principles and holding true to those values. there is a difference between rights and what is right. it is sad and disappointing and heartbreaking that after an atrocious terrorist act against the nation of israel and against its people, we can't call it for what it is. >> dana: senator kirsten gillibrand will join us for reaction to rampant anti-semitism on campus and the mind blowing response of presidents. we'll talk to the u.n. ambassadors about the war and the miracle of hanukkah. >> bill: the story is moving and changing by the day at harvard. good morning, there. >> good morning, bill and dana. leading politicians and we just showed some of the leading academics across the country are joining the core use of voices

including students and donors with their loud denouncements of the december monies given by presidents of mitt, harvard and u penn after stefanik asked if calling for the genocide of jews was against school rules. the three women simply did not answer yes. instead equivocating offering lawyerly responses. the condemnation has been clear. the pennsylvania governor said the u penn board has a serious decision to make regarding university president liz mcgill. >> i found her comments absolutely shameful. it should not be hard to condemn genocide. genocide against jews, genocide against anyone else. >> mcgill has set to clarify her remarks. >> i want to be clear, a call for genocide of jewish people is threatening, deeply so. it is intentionally meant to terrify a people who have been

subjected to hatred for centuries. >> gay released a statement writing some confused who have confused a right to free expression with the idea that harvard will harbor calls for violence against jewish students. calls for violence are vile and have no place at harvard. those who threaten our jewish students will be held to account. white house deputy press secretary released a statement saying it's unbelievable this needs to be said. calls for genocide are monstrous and antithetical to everything we represent as a country. any statements that advocate for the systematic murder of jews are dangerous and revolting and we should all stand firmly against them. >> bill: they had their chance. could have been done two days ago. thank you, molly, in cambridge. >> dana: israel's ambassador to the united nations. great to have you. on the campus situation in america your take on the fact

that it took them a day to have to realize they had to figure out a way to clean up the mess they made? >> frightening. i don't believe them. we expected to see moral clarity but we got moral depravity from all of these presidents. that's the reason why i insist on traveling now from university to university and screen the hamas horror footage. if their -- their institution can't support israel. every american should be frightened. >> dana: have you had people coming to the screenings. >> hundreds. they are shocked after they understand who their colleagues and peers are chanting in support of on campus colleges. and i think again words -- i

mean, are not enough right now. we have seen thousands of people chanting in support of these terrorists, supporting the genocide of the jewish people. right now we expect university president to expel students, to fire professors. we need actions. empty words are not enough right now. >> bill: at the moment you have 138 israelis held hostage, we believe seven to nine of those might be americans. their lives and their situation and circumstance gets lost in all this. i don't know if they are still with us. i don't know if they are alive or dead. i don't know if they are coming home yet or not. john kirby made a comment about the international red cross. it is their job to insist with the leaders of hamas to get access to the hostages. he said this from the podium at the white house just yesterday. >> hamas is not allowing red cross in to visit the hostages and it is unacceptable.

one of the things you keep asking and rightly so about the condition of the hostages. we don't know a lot. >> bill: the truth is that the red cross has largely escaped our conversation for two months now. we have had a father on last week he hasn't heard from his son since the 7th of october and imploring the red cross to get verification of the lives of these hostages. it hasn't happened. >> i think that now we commemorate 60 days from the beginning of this terrible war from october 7th and one of our lessons is definitely the u.n. with all of its buddies and agencies is morally distorted and morally corrupted. the u.n. that was founded in the wake of the holocaust cannot prevent atrocities. if anything, they insure atrocities. you gave one example, the failure of the red cross. it is not only the red cross. it is the security council, the

general assembly. all of the u.n. buddies failed to unequivocally condemn hamas. they failed to demand accountability from the terrorists of hamas. the people in gaza would hear they suffer first and foremost only because of hamas that is using them as human shields, maybe we could see a change in gaza. but the only hope of hamas to survive against the israeli defense forces, against our military, their hope is the u.n. and the international community. they expect them to tie our hands. >> bill: one thing about the future of gaza and what happens with the 2 million palestinians still living there is what does israel do? does the idf occupy it and flood the tunnels, can you destroy the tunnels? when do israelis feel safe enough to live in the southern part of their country again? all these issues, they are big,

too. have yet to be decided. what happens? >> it is quite clear today for all of us after 60 days that we have made a terrible mistake in the past. genocidal organization like the nazis, like isis, like hamas cannot be changed with economic incentives. they must be eradicated. the time the people of israel and the jewish people, we feel a sense of unity we never felt before. we are willing to pay the ultimate price and we are paying it. our soldiers are paying it every day in order to eradicate hamas and release the hostages. and we will continue in this mission and this war until hamas is eradicated and until our people can go back and live in -- near our southern border and northern border. we have 250,000 people who were displaced since this war started because they don't feel safe going back to their homes and we

are committed to insuring their security and that's why we will continue until hamas is eradicated and i promise you, it will happen even if it will take another month or two, it will happen. we will achieve our goals. >> dana: mr. ambassador, happy hanukkah to you and thank you for being here. >> happy hanukkah and light, as you said, will be victorious, yes. >> bill: good to see you. thank you. lower manhattan we have what we call the pool camera, right? inside the courtroom from moments ago with the former president back at a familiar seat at a familiar table. he does not take the stand today but may do that tomorrow and if there is no court tomorrow, maybe next week. but he did have comments going in and we'll probably get comments at lunch break, too, momentarily. that's what you have. i don't think we saw le tisha

james there. >> new accusations now of wealthy donors and liberal foundations fun willing millions of dollars to organizations holding pro-palestinian protests across the country. something else. william la jeunesse is following the money. >> these protests caught money. signs, travel, organizing. why does it come from? a group called tied that takes in big money, mostly anonymously and doles it out, 700 million to progressive groups that help bank roll the protests. the real donors remain secret. new york, chicago, cities across the country, who is paying to organize pro-palestinian protests? >> i think that the funding sources of these groups is intentionally hard to sort out. >> a major source is san francisco based tides, a nonprofit clearinghouse for liberal causes funded by some of

america's most wealthy foundations and individuals like billionaire george soros. who according to charity watchdog capital research center funneled tides more than $22 million for different causes. >> if the left does it, tides funds it. >> they granted jewish voice for peace that co-sponsored the protest $650,000. 710,000 to a justice project that organized this demonstration on capitol hill. 86,000 to the group if not now, organizer of the protest outside the dnc. 38,000 to the center for constitutional rights which sued president biden for failing to, quote, prevent genocide. 600,000 to the mass liberation project which accuses the u.s. of ethnic cleansing. and 132,000 to west pac sponsor of students for justice in palestinian which organized this protest at columbia. >> the tides has sent well over

$2 million in the past few years alone to organizations sympathetic to hamas and the palestinian resistance. >> some going to these groups, all of which signed a letter demanding the u.s. defund the israeli military. so those eight groups you just saw got $6 million from tides, which did not respond for our request for an interview. soros group condemned hamas and they want rights and future are respected. >> bill: hard to follow. william la jeunesse in los angeles. >> dana: a live look for you at the southern border. cbp officials recorded more than 12,000 migrant encounters on tuesday. that is a single day record. not one that anyone should be proud of. new video shows long lines of mostly adult men breaking through the border fence. we'll keep an eye on the situation as bill melugin reported last hour that 900 of

these single men that have come across are in line right now to be processed today. >> bill: it's interesting when he goes up and down the line and says where you are from and where do you want to go. >> dana: they are going everywhere, america. basically. omaha, south carolina, miami, new york we heard, chicago. incredible video. >> bill: no end in sight. will the house censure a democratic congress leader over pulling that false alarm earlier in the year? jamal bowman is in the hot seat today and check it out momentarily. >> dana: nikki haley facing fire from all sides from the presidential primary debate last night. who came out on top and what is next as the campaign heads closer to the first contest in iowa? >> she caves any time the left comes after her. any time the media comes after her. the only person more fascist than the biden regime now is

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>> dana: house could vote to censure jamal bowman this hour. he is facing serious blowback for pulling a fire alarm in a capitol moments before a key government spending vote. chad pergram live on capitol hill. another week, another censure. >> good morning. it's the second most serious form of discipline short of expulsion. bowman is on target to become the third democrat censured by republicans this year. he pled guilty in court this fall. >> although your district may appreciate all of those accomplishments, are we supposed to just forget that the crime

that you committed? if you commit a crime, there is a penalty to that crime. >> bowman is a former teacher and principal. some republicans wanted to expel bowman because that's often the punishment for yanking the fire alarm at school. republicans accused bowman of trying to disrupt congress as lawmakers were about to consider a bill to avert a government shutdown in september. >> their censure resolution against me today continues to demonstrate their inability to govern and serve the american people. i immediately took responsibility and accountability for my actions. >> bill: democrats defended bowman arguing that even some gop members say the house failed to accomplish anything all year. alexandria ocasio-cortez said bowman as censure was an effort to divert attention from the expulsion of george santos. >> new york republicans are so embarrassed that they have not

accomplished a damn thing for new yorkers this entire year that they have to find a distraction so they've decided to target one of the first black men to ever represent westchester county in the united states congress for censure. >> okl if censured he must stan before house speaker and receive a verbal rebuke. >> bill: carley shimkus and tom shillue. who is buying his story and believing his story? >> nobody is. you know what happened right under our noses, it took some time. going back to the 1970s when the president lied to us and had to resign. our teacher said the president lied to us and that was such shame. lying is no longer shameful.

everybody lies. they just lie and then they get away with it and move on. you have someone like jussie smollett, he continues. he will get censured and thumb his nose at it. in the old days censure meant something. he will get a verbal rebuke i laughed because it sounds funny to hear that. back in the old days that wasn't funny. you took it. >> dana: i would have mortified. i did not want that. here is the law in d.c. it says shall be unlawful any person knowingly give a false alarm of fire within the district of columbia and then you had the fact he says i immediately took responsibility. but representative mcclain points out the incident occurred september 30th and didn't plead guilty until october 26th. >> it's all true the timeline is notable to point out. bowman was on the house floor defending himself yesterday. he said it is painfully obvious

the republican party is deeply unserious and unable to legislate. he is a democrat and will say that. it doesn't work when you pulled the fire alarm to try to stop the vote to avert a shutdown to make the republican party look back. i wonder how many lawmakers care about being censured. thumbing the nose at it. i talked to chad pergram earlier and asked him. he said some lawmakers embrace it. they can say i'm working so hard for you and look at what they are doing, wasting all their time attacking me. i'm sure that is what bowman will say publicly. privately when the vote is going down it is uncomfortable. i'm sure he will feel a little silly. this was a silly thing to do. >> bill: amazing gas lighting moment when you can say this is actually a badge of honor. simple majority takes to go ahead and censure him. there is a good chance it happens. we'll find out momentarily.

>> he says i immediately took responsibility. he didn't. his story changed. he was trying to get through the door. >> dana: it was clear. the other thing happening pressley is suggesting we lower the age for voting and also allowing people who have served time in jail to vote. listen to her here. >> the crisis of mass incarceration has ravaged our communities, destabilized families and exacerbated generational trauma. criminal legal system that disproportionate lull cri criminalizes black and brown. assault on our voting rights so they can't participate in the democracy. >> dana: the lowering of the age doesn't thing -- i don't think that will go anywhere. >> i don't know if there is debate for either.

a lot of reaction on social mead. when you need criminals and kids to vote for your policies you know you are in trouble. it is ridiculous. if you commit a crime and currently in jail, that's part of the punishment. you are separate from society and you can no longer vote. when you get out of jail maybe we could start talking about it. >> bill: 16 okay with you? >> 15, 14. the funny thing is democrats at this point will just do whatever they think will serve their purposes. they want to go down with the voting but up with the health insurance, right? obamacare you are a kid until you are 26. now you are not a kid because they think they will get democrat votes. i say 18 for everything. drinking age included. 18. i don't know -- when are you an adult, 21 to drink and we have these kids -- >> dana: kids smoke pot any time you want. >> it's unbelievable. >> dana: we solved nothing. >> it was a good discussion,

though. >> dana: check this out here. >> interceptors, everybody get down. laying flat on the ground here. this is a challenge for the israeli people and just a collective trauma. [explosions] >> dana: two months of war propped into 15 seconds. the future of the middle east is uncertain after hamas launched attacks against israel. what's the status of the war today? go back to trey yengst with an update and look ahead next. a day that will live in infamily marking 82 years since the attack on pearl harbor. the nation pauses to honor its thousands of fallen heroes from that day. >> bombers struck at flying fields and planes on the ground to shatter the defense of american bombers and fighters. in spite of this american fighting planes took off.

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>> bill: live look at the southern border. speaking about this a few moments ago. migrants continue to stream in. it is what, 8:30 in arizona, 9:30 in texas right now. it's early in the day. arizona saw its highest daily total ever recorded this week, 12,000 migrants crossing in one day in eagle pass you had more than 3,000 migrants crossing on the same day. that's happened repeatedly throughout the week. back on that story there is no let-up to those coming into the u.s. [explosions] >> dana: fighting is growing more intense in gaza as israel's war on hamas enters its third month. over 100 hostages remain in terrorist captivity as their families beg for help. trey yengst live from southern israel with an update. hi, trey. >> good morning. it has been two months since the october 7th massacre and the war rages on. israeli forces now operating in

both the northern and southern parts of the gaza strip. you can still hear fighter jets overhead and watching hair strikes against a neighborhood in northern gaza today. much of the fighting taking place around a neighborhood where israeli forces have continued to go after hamas militants and also now operating in the southern city of khan younis, the second largest city where netanyahu said this week that sinwar's house is surrounded. the israelis are looking for the hostages as they kill hamas leadership. in the meantime we understand two top hamas commanders were killed in recent days. one who is the head of hamas's observation capabilities in gaza and was involved in the planning of the october 7th attacks. also a top intelligence official from hamas. this comes as the israelis are learning more about what the conditions were like for so many of those hostages that were released as part of that swap

for prisoners late last month. one of them speaking out at a meeting this week with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying my daughters are asking where is daddy? and i have to tell them that the bad people don't want to release him yet. you are placing politics over the return of the abduct east. that woman released after more than 50 days in captivity inside gaza and highlighting some of the frustration that many of the people who were released have with the israeli government. we interviewed her brother yesterday and he spoke about what the situation was like for his two sisters that were held inside gaza. take a listen. >> there are people that are dying piece by piece there as we speak. and we know that both of my sister told us that when they were there, they said we were sure that israel gave up on us.

>> his brother-in-law is still being held by hamas today and when we talk about all of the air strikes and the ground operations, it is important not to forget what this story is about. it is about that massacre that took place two months ago today that started this conflict, a massive ground war in the middle east and so many families today, dana, still waiting for more information about their loved ones. >> dana: the longest days of their lives, no doubt. trey yengst, thank you. stay safe and continue to bring us this important story. >> an older generation believes in funding foreign wars and doubly it's worse when people are making money off the foreign wars. >> it's because they have nothing substantively to say that matters. >> bill: that's the post-game show earlier today. last night the sparks were flying at the fourth republican debate. candidates trying to move the needle with time running out before the iowa caucuses 5 1/2 weeks from today.

mark penn, jim garrity, senior political correspondent. good day to both of you. tee up a little bit from last night. number three, here is nikki haley on iran. >> they don't respond when you give $6 billion for five hostages. it makes them want more hostages. you have to punch them hard and let them know that. that's the only way they are going to respond to the way you do that is you go after their infrastructure in syria and iraq where they are hitting our soldiers. that's what you do. that's when they'll back off. >> bill: you had that. then you had this on google. i don't know if it's good or bad, guys. the pulse of the people shows nikki haley was the number one search result last night followed by vivek at number two. governor desantis number three and chris christie number four. mark, did last night change anything? >> no, i don't think it changed. the only thing that is going on

here. nikki haley has momentum. desantis is making headway in iowa? we don't know. the rest don't seem to count and put a lot of effort into stopping her last night. i don't think they did. >> bill: okay. jim, how did you score it? >> look, i think nikki haley doesn't have a lot of bad nights on the debate stage. she is always poised, comes across as tough and yeah, if all of the other candidates on stage are criticizing you, you are taking flak you are probably over the target as they say. the thing is that she has a lot of momentum to go from a distant third to a distant second. i think chris christie usefully reminded everyone the candidate who is not on stage donald trump is well ahead and traditionally if you are an underdog candidate and behind you would like to spend time attacking the frontrunner. >> bill: we'll see what the results are in iowa and where it leaves us then. we have 40 days to decide that.

in the meantime we might have 11 months before we get a president, right? joe biden, donald trump, are they the nominees? likely. joe biden was asked whether or not other democrats had the ability to beat donald trump next november. >> do you think there is any democrat who could defeat donald trump other than you? >> president biden: 50 of them. i'm not the only one to beat him but i will beat him. >> who else do you think could beat donald trump as president? >> bill: what did you think of that exchange? >> well look, i think this can't all be about donald trump. it has to be about the future of the country. and i think joe biden is the democratic nominee. i think the real outstanding question here is can trump get through iowa and most importantly new hampshire? if he does, he will be the nominee, too. i'm a little doubtful he will get through new hampshire. >> bill: why? >> well, because i think new

hampshire large numbers of independent voters. no contest on the democratic side. a good space for nikki haley who has been coming up in the polls. if she does credible in iowa. i expect tracheally to win iowa and takes new hampshire then we have a real race. if she gets trounced in new hampshire, no race, it's over. >> bill: do you see it the same way, jim? >> pretty much. i did find biden's comments interesting because in a way it's a concession joe biden might actually be the weakest option for the democrats even though he has the power of incumbency. every other option, harris and newsom are not 81. they don't have a son who has been indicted and contradicted all kinds of biden administration policies on paying your taxes and responsible gun ownership and things like that. biden brings unique weaknesses to this race. i think trump might be the only nominee he could beat.

ironically trump believes biden is the easiest democrat to beat. >> bill: one of the more recent surveys cnn on the approval/disapproval of nobody. they have biden at 63% at the end of the november. well under the 40% that a lot of people look at. how does it work over the next 11 months? do you dig out of that hole? >> i would not want to run for re-election with a 63% disapproval rating. you need the opposing candidate running on a platform of spreading stds. you need a weak opponent in a circumstance like that. things are expensive. inflation year to year might change but people still remember what prices were in pre-pandemic 2019 and myself the good old days. until that's fixed biden will have a low approval rating.

>> 40% love trump, hate biden. 40% love biden and hate them both. 20% hate them both. they will be the ones to decide it. they won't decide until next summer no matter what the polls show at the moment. the economy has to improve or biden is in really big trouble. those voters hate them both and that's a real difficult vote. >> bill: love having you guys on. come back, mark penn and jim gherty. thank you. >> dana: you have women's groups that apparently don't want to acknowledge the rape of israeli women by hamas. democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will join us next. >> when i saw the list of women's rights organizations who have said nothing, i nearly choked. where is the solidarity for women in this country and in this world to stand up for our mothers, our sisters, and our daughters?

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>> bill: southern israel. the sun has set and jewish holiday of hanukkah is now underway. this is in a town a few miles from the gaza strip. 5:45 local time in israel so this the first of eight days and

eight nights that commemorate the jewish retaking of the city of jerusalem. they thought they had enough fuel for one night to light the lamp and it lasted eight nights and hence you have the eight candles you see on that menorah in that town. here we go. the holiday is underway and what a holiday it is for jewish people all over the world in light of what happened two months ago today. >> dana: indeed. stunning number of women's groups failing to condemn the rape and mutilation of israeli women at the hands of hamas and angering many people including my next guest. kirsten gillibrand you spoke at the united nations and your voice with clearly heard. we had a guest on last hour a former miss world of israel. a rape victim herself from many years ago and at the event. here is what she said last hour. >> it is me too unless you are a jew. hard for me to say that but this

is the truth. what women organizations did they took it to the political side. it is not about political or free palestinian. it is not about which side you are on the map. to use rape as an act of war is unbearable. >> dana: senator, the women's groups are still silent and i know you know a lot of them and their leadership. what have they told you behind the scenes? >> i haven't spoken to them. when i saw the list at the u.n., i couldn't believe it. i was so aghast and so furious. i don't understand how we cannot have solidarity amongst all women in the united states and globally that using rape as a weapon of war is unacceptable. it has to be condemned. the fact that the u.n. has not called hamas a terrorist organization and condemned the horrific violence on october 7th is unacceptable.

they are not even enforcing international law or calling it out as a violation of war. >> dana: one of the things the groups spoke out when people -- the jewish women feel abandoned. will you call upon these groups to say something to stand in solidarity with other women? >> i did in my speech. it is an outrage and i think women's rights groups in the united states should care deeply about women around the globe and should not turn a blind eye. they should not keep their head in the sand. they have a moral responsibility to have moral clarity that rape cannot be used astor tour and cannot be used to destroy whole communities. that's what is being used as a weapon of war. >> dana: did you go to the opportunity provided in congress to go and watch the video that the israeli government had provided? >> i did. and it is unspeakable. the horrific acts that were

committed in the most heinous and evil ways you can imagine. beheadings, dismemberments, mass rapes, shooting of babies and children. it is something that should never, ever happen and it has to be called out by not only the u.n., but by the world community. >> dana: i ask because i think it is important for somebody like you to be able to tell the people who are denying it or suggesting that it never happened so that they can hear from somebody who has actually seen the video, that is you. >> and dana, they did not show us the victims of rape and they did not show us the videos of rapes happening because they thought it was too horrific for congress to see. but we should see it and these films and these photographs should be made public because the world has to condemn this because right now rape is being used as a weapon of war around the globe by many of the

terrorist organizations and has been used by terrorist organizations for hundreds of years and we cannot stand that women's bodies aren't worth being protected and that their humanity is not important and not worth us fighting for. so we need clarity. we need moral clarity at this moment from our leaders and from all organizations that purport to represent women. >> dana: we're dealing with the after math of the three university presidents on the hill this week who could not find it in their core or prepped not to say that calling for genocide is wrong and against the policy there. bari weiss pointed out today at harvard being fat phobic constitutes violence but globe liesing the intifada requires

context. a supporter says those three university presidents should resign from harvard, m.i.t. and u penn. >> i think their statements were abhorrent and trying to contextualize what constitutes harassment. jewish students are terrified on these campuses. they were barricaded into rooms and students are told we cannot guarantee your safety so stay in your dorm room. that's the definition of harassment to instill fear and to not have a climate where kids can thrive and go to school and feel protected. they are failing in the worst way as college presidents but so are these colleges. if you look across the board at what statements presidents made in the after math of october 7th it's unacceptable. you cannot call for the genocide of the jews, the genocide of any group of people and not say that is harassment and creating an

unsafe environment for kids and students that live there. >> dana: i'm sure they will be glad to hear and reassured you are on their side indeed. senator gillibrand, thank you. >> bill: we're watching the censure vote. it is now underway on the floor of the house. you need a simple majority to get there. remember the majority at the moment is 218. you are at 205 and chad pergram has been watching this. we'll dial him in in a moment as we watch this all goes back to bowman, the democratic person on camera who pulled the fire alarm during a major vote on a saturday morning. >> dana: have you ever walked by a fire alarm and thought what would happen? i would never do it. i'm so terrified of getting in trouble. but you can play out in your mind all the bad things that could happen if you do that. the stampeding, right? people getting hurt or injured. there is a reason it's against the law. he said he took immediate

responsibility. that is definitely not true. >> bill: by my count here 12 republicans have not voted yet but by my count, three democrats have voted yes. so chad pergram says it is all about the math. how is the math now, chad? >> well, it looks like jamal bowman will be censured. the 27th member of the house of representatives to be censured. there are a number of present votes on the board now. we're trying to filet the vote in realtime. susan wild from pennsylvania who is the top democrat on the ethics committee, andy harris, a republican from maryland here, we also have glen ivy voting present right now. they need a simple majority. it is not expulsion like we had last week. a simple majority. the fact they had a majority vote 216 members to 201 and one voting present susan wild yesterday to not block, to not

table this censure resolution, that's why this is going to pass and we'll see this cross that threshold. just a simple majority that they need. not necessarily 218 as we know right now. they are at 434 members after the expulsion of george santos. kevin mccarthy is still a member now but he did not vote yesterday. >> bill: two things here. if he is censured he goes on the floor of the house and they read a statement. i don't know if it's been written yet or not. if he is censured, it clearly shows the rashal and excuses he was using for the fire alarm didn't fly with the majority of lawmakers in congress. >> that's right. what happens, this was not in the censure resolution in november for rashida tlaib but what happens is you have to present yourself in the well of the house, the area in the lower part of the chamber in front of the dais and stand in front of the speaker and read the resolution and say you are here by censured and you wrap the

gavel. that's what happened with charlie wrangle 2010. former representative from new york and adam schiff earlier this year. a lot of democrats rallied around adam schiff and it was raucous. kevin mccarthy read the resolution, said you are censured, hit the gavel and nobody could hear it because of the din inside the house chamber. we don't know what this will look like in the case of charlie wrangle. he was looking down with hands folded. house speaker nancy pelosi read the resolution. she never really made eye contact with him and hit the gavel. mike johnson, the speaker, is reading the vote total. jamal bowman has been censured. the 27th member ever censured. >> representative bowman present himself in the well.

by its adoption of house resolution 914, the house has resolved that the house of representatives sen shares jamal bowman from the 16th congressional district of new york and representative bowman present himself in the well of the house of representatives for the pronouncement of censure and he be censured with the public reading of this resolution by the speaker. >> dana: pulling the fire alarm. there you have it. jamal bowman the congressman from new york censured for pulling the fire alarm and pled guilty. that is a crime. and so basically you heard -- bill heard it. i didn't catch the language. somebody sounded like they yelled sham or shame. >> bill: or maybe both depending on which party you are in,

right? >> dana: it could have been. >> bill: we watched that history there. gratitude to chad pergram for taking us through it. jamal bowman deal is now over. >> the gentleman from missouri seeks recognition. >> bill: back to new york. lower manhattan donald trump is inside that courtroom. he will not testify today but he is back in court. first time we've seen him show up even though the civil fraud trial has continued in his absence. so he is back. this was the pool camera in there in the last hour and we haven't had a lot of information right now on the read-out but this is his opportunity to defend himself and say what you are doing against me here is beyond the pale and all this is a crock. he says it every time he goes inside court. >> dana: we'll pay attention and get you to this as well. the president of the ncaa now backing a plan to pay athletes

directly. kelly o'grady is here to explain it to me. i need the explanation. >> great to see you. this is stunning coming from an organization that has fought tooth and nail to preserve student athletes amateur status. the ncaa president suggesting three changes that universities should be allowed to enter into endorsement agreements with student athletes. there should be no cap on education related benefits and that they should create a subdivision of the richest schools and each commit $30,000 per year for at least half of their student athletes. the proposal argues it will help level what is fast becoming an unlevel playing field between men and women. student agents leitz. schools are required to abide by existing gender -- it would accelerate the shift.

alabamas, michigans can start playing by different schools and smaller schools will get -- we spoke to a former athlete turned agent saying this is necessary. >> i think it's something that has been needing to happen. i wish it happened when i was playing. i think it's a great way for the players not only to earn compensation for themselves but a lot of these guys are from humble backgrounds and they want to help out their family. >> dana, regardless of where you stand, pandora's box is open and we haven't seen the last of this. send it back to you. >> dana: thank you so much. >> bill: good to be with you, my dear. >> dana: a fast couple hours there, bill hemmer. >> bill: i shall see you friday, all right? better show up with bells on. >> dana: harris faulkner will take you through the next hour. it's julie banderas. >> julie: actions have consequences. that is true. believe it or not the house just