>> attacks represent a direct threat to international commerce and freedom of navigation. houthis are pulling the trigger, iran is providing the guns. >> john: that was nsc communications coordinator john

kirby moments ago saying it is iran who was arming the houthi rebels, the same houthi rebels shooting drones towards navy ships. >> sandra: just yesterday, forced to shoot down another houthi drone in the red sea. united states has yet to take real direct retaliatory military action toward the houthis. awaiting a briefing from the pentagon and bring you the latest as we get it. >> john: john roberts in washington. >> sandra: sandra smith in new york. this is "america reports". today marks two months now of war between israel and hamas. israel battling militants in some of the biggest cities along the gaza strip. u.s. confirming it has resumed intelligence flights, and despite all the devastation, israel is showing now their resiliency through testing, through the major tests that they are in in these trying times as they celebrate the

first night of hanukkah across the jewish state. >> john: greg palkot is live in sderot, israel. >> a town hit very hard by hamas on october 7th, some residents are hanging in there, and two months on, they have erected this massive menorah that's behind us right now, marking the holiday of hanukkah. more on that in a moment, but the war raging near by us, pockets of resistance in the north and further into southern gaza, especially that town of khan younis, it's believed many of the hamas leadership and fighters are holding out. 90 israeli soldiers killed in the fight, including the son of an idf chief of staff and current cabinet minister and taking its toll on the civilians. israel hitting supposed safe areas in the south.

israel saying missiles were fired from there. and you are right, the u.s. military continues to deal with iran-backed hits on its forces, including the recent drone fly by and knock down of a u.s. destroyer in the red sea. here in sderot, the first night of hanukkah, the first candle of the 40-foot tall menorah, it's where the police station was, a massive firefight at the beginning of the problems, 12 policemen were killed there, 30 terrorist. on this night, soldiers gathered around for prayers, remembrance into the evening. deputy mayor of the town told us the significance of this festival of lights. >> after what happened in october 7th in this building, in this area, and probably in israel, we want to bring the light to the world.

>> we want to bring the light to the world. john, sandra, eeriely quiet here. in the distance, hearing the pounding of the war in gaza and one more word from the deputy mayor, his words, we will return. a symbol of that behind us right now. back to you. >> john: greg palkot just outside of sderot, israel. >> sandra: merrick garland announcing the justice department is investigating several hamas members accused of killing or kidnapping americans on october 7th, and he says the doj will hold them accountable. david spunt is live in washington for us, david, what's the ultimate goal of the justice department here. >> ultimate goal to get the hamas terrorists on american soil to face prison time here in the united states for what they did to americans in israel. that will not be a walk in the park by any means. still the doj is adamant about

going after these terrorists. >> hamas murdered more than 30 americans and kidnapped more during their terrorist attack on october 7th. we are investigating those heinous crimes and we will hold those people accountable. >> add in extradition delays could complicate things, working to identify all the members of hamas who killed and kidnapped americans. the attorney general made the announcement at a press conference, first use of the war crimes act of 1996 to charge four russians with attacking an american living in ukraine. i asked him about going after hamas when he confirmed the investigation. fox news has told doj several options and using the war crimes statute is just one option. doj also has additional tools to use given that hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization by the u.s. department of state.

i'm told by a source familiar with the probes into hamas that things, sandra, are very fluid but the goal is to find the hamas fighters. the first time we have heard the justice department is actively going after hamas terrorists. federal prosecutors hope to identify these people by name, first and last name, at least put them on blast for the world to see what they did and who they are. >> john: a live look at the pentagon awaiting the briefing there, first since the u.s.s. mason shot down another houthi rebel drone yesterday in the red sea. dan hoffman, former cia station chief and fox news contributor. we see all the missiles and drones coming out of yemen either launched or fired by the houthis. american ships are taking them down, yet unlike what we see in syria, there is no direct response by the u.s. against the houthis as there was against iran-backed proxies in syria.

the question is, why wouldn't we respond directly? >> and let's also remember the response against the iranian proxy militants and terrorists in iraq and in syria has not been enough to prevent those attacks from continuing to occur. roughly 80 of them in iraq and syria, and they have caused traumatic brain injuries for some of our soldiers. iran is dialing up the kinetic pressure on us and doing it because they are playing the long game, they want to make it appear as if the united states is at war in the middle east. on the side of israel. so that when the protests occur with pro-palestinian populations in jordan and saudi arabia and egypt, saw some in bahrain, yesterday, united states is lumped into all of that and it drives a wedge between those populations and the governments who are our allies. and that's what iran, what russia wants as well, to reduce or eliminate u.s. influence in

the middle east. iran does not want a direct confrontation, that's why they are using the proxies. >> john: in terms of limiting our influence in the middle east, the president of iran is in moscow today meeting with vladimir putin, but even more importantly than that meeting, which is billed as trade and economic cooperation, even though they are deepening military ties, yesterday putin made a one-day whirlwind trip to the middle east which went to the united arab emirates and met with a flyover smoke trailing from the back of jets, and they were not the us-f-16s, and the color of the russian flag and went to saudi arabia, as the west tries to isolate him, he's trying to build bridges in the middle east. what are the implications of that? >> those are significant implications. vladimir putin is doing everything he's always been able

to do. remember last month he hosted iranian deputy foreign minister and a senior hamas representative. he's far from being an international pariah as the biden administration would like him to be, he's able to engage with senior leaders in the middle east. back to the days when iraq invaded kuwait, and president bush had a coalition to drive them out. we are not enjoying that diplomatic effects in the middle east, it has to be a huge challenge for the biden administration. >> john: as putin welcomes him, as he travels to the middle east, in the senate, bill for aid to israel and ukraine were shot down because there not being border in it. and support for ukraine is mr. biden's policy, and the failure

will be as much his as that of republicans in congress. the kremlin and the world will see more evidence of mr. biden's political weakness. do putin and xi look at what's going on across the street from here and think wow, biden can't even get bills passed to fund ukraine, why should we be worried about him? >> democracy scares xi and putin the most but enjoy how it impacts the united states government. i was very surprised yesterday because you know, back when president biden was vice president, president obama said you cannot get everything but accept what you can get. and i would like to see the politicians compromise, money for the border, and israel and ukraine, we lose if we don't do that. it's a 0 sum game. it's over to them to negotiate a compromise which republicans can accept. >> john: i know you are going to

be heading over to the middle east for the security conference soon. we expect and look forward to seeing you on the back side of that, dan. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> absolutely. thanks. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: good to see dan. sky high mortgage rates are making it harder and harder for everyday americans to buy a home. also a big toll on those trying to sell a house. robert wolf and dan greenhouse are here to weigh in on what's happening and when we could see some relief for that market. >> john: also, president biden sticking to his claims of denial when it comes to his son's foreign business dealings. republicans say the president is not fooling anyone, as they continue to turn over every stone in their investigations. >> the american people have common sense. i think they figured this out already and i think the fact pattern related to burisma is

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>> sandra: we know high mortgage rates are killing prospective home buyers looking to get a slice of the american dream, but new data from red fin says it's showing an impact on people wanting to cash out on investment. homeowners who wanted to sell will to lower listing prices this fall. robert wolf is a fox news contributor, former economic adviser to president biden, and also ceo and founder of 32 advisers, dan greenhouse, ok, sometimes i worry we had the biggest conversation before we hit air. talking during the commercial break what is going on right now. crazy dynamic in the economy and chatted with charles payne in the last hour bit, about how some resilience from the

consumer, right, they seem to be still spending money, but yet with the high interest rates there is this big movement in the housing market. affordability is way down and people cannot get into a house. so renting is going up, dan, characterize what's happening right now. >> i'm going to go first. >> yep. >> i'll take the positive side of things for this conversation. so, if you are a homeowner, the vast majority of people, 130 plus million homes in the country, 85, 90 million are owner occupied, homes are up 40% from covid. so balance sheet standpoint. >> sandra: huge, 40%. >> we have not seen a price increase like that in modern history, plus the stock market basically back to a record high, higher than precovid, balance sheet, you have the issues in your favor. layer on top of this relatively speaking a strong jobs market, a jobs report tomorrow should show healthy levels of job growth. so all together, if you are a consumer, along with the amount

of money the government gave you, probably just about running out, you are feeling good about things and you are able to still spend. >> sandra: i feel like there's a but coming. but what, robert? >> he's asking me to be the negative guy, i would rather be positive. i think there is a lot of negativity out there, and sandra, you and i and dan have been talking about it. you have no mobility, people with a mortgage at 4%, they don't want to move because they are locked in. during covid, the most part, no construction. issues with supply so the supply side is upside down. this is the first time in decades that we have seen existing home sales down, new home sales up, but the new home sales buyers are first time buyers. normally they are the ones always buying existing homes. >> sandra: what does that tell you? >> no existing homes to buy and no one is moving because of their mortgage rates, so therefore -- >> sandra: inventory problem. >> the problem with this, to the point, a million homes for sale

right now, existing home sales. that should be 2 million or 2 and a quarter million, so short 1 million homes and pushing people into the new homes markets as we have just discussed. however, new homes cost more than existing homes. >> sandra: if you got into a home in covid, you got in free money, basically. and if you see the value of the home up 30, 40% you are not going to get into a bigger home, because you take on a mortgage rate much higher than you are locked in. mortgage rates this year, 30-year fixed, 7%, and obviously that line chart went up up up up for quite a long time, it's now taken a bit of a dip, that should help things out a bit. meanwhile, what people are saying, oh, perhaps this is my favorite story. sorry, i shouldn't say that. maybe i should step back and think this could be pretty rough for some people. >> that's ok. >> there are couples, a trend coast to coast and multiple reports about this, a lot of

couples that are deciding to live together even though they are divorcing because of the tough financial environment right now. apparently we have spoken to some people about this, listen. >> it's just a bad idea. they are exes for a reason. >> i would pay any amount of money to not live with an ex. >> they always have home. absolutely not. i hope not. >> sandra: but apparently this is happening. but most people think it's a bad idea. it's a rough economic environment out there, divorce, hard to get into a new place of your own, at least right away, robert. good or bad idea. >> bad idea. i'm actually a producer of an upcoming broadway show called "war of the roses" and if you looked at the movie from years ago with michael douglas and kathleen turner, this is not a good idea. and all i can say is i'm -- first marriage, first house, foreign to me, maybe someone else can talk better about it. >> sandra: i think happily married spouses have it sometimes difficult inside the

same walls. can you imagine divorce. >> i concur with the idea that happily married couples have difficulty in the same four walls. i would rather sleep in a dumpster than get divorced and stay in the same house. that seems like a better outcome. >> not a good idea. >> sandra: all kidding aside, these are indicators of the economy. >> sell the house. >> sandra: ok, hopefully i don't have to think about this myself. thank you very much, robert and dan. good to have both of you here today. >> john: a watchdog is uncovering the donors behind a non-profit behind pro-palestinian protests. the big bucks and the big names and speaking of the protests. >> from the river to the sea, palestinian will be free. >> sandra: so how many of those students know the meaning behind

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>> you are committing genocide. >> sandra: a charity watchdog group did some digging into pro-palestinian protests and found one non-profit that has given millions of dollars for groups connected to the rallies. tides has received money from several foundations, including one controlled by george soros who has donated more than $22 million to the group. william has the story from us. what's some of the -- some of this money doing? >> well, the protests, right, they cost money.

signs, travel, organizing, but where does it come from? a group most have never heard about, it is called tides and take in most money from anonymous donors or foundations and dole it out. $700 million last year, to progressive groups that then bank roll the protests. the real donors remain secret. >> new york, chicago, cities across the country, who is paying to fund the protests? >> funding source is intentionally hard to sort out. >> major source is tides, san francisco-based, non-profit clearinghouse for liberal causes, funded by some of the wealthiest foundations and individuals like billionaire george soros. according to charity watchdog capital resource center funneled tides more than $22 million for different causes. >> if the left does it, tides funds it. >> tides granted jewish voice

for peace, co-sponsored the protest, $650,000. 710,000 to a justice project which organized the demonstration on capitol hill. 86,000 to the group if not now, organizer outside the dnc. 38,000 to the center for constitutional rights which sued president biden for failing to "prevent genocide." 600,000, the mass liberation project, which accuses the u.s. of ethnic cleansing. and 132000 to west pac, organized this protest at columbia. >> the tides sends well over $2 million in the past few years alone to organizations sympathetic to hamas and sympathetic to the palestinian resistance. >> some going to these groups, all of which signed a letter to demanding the u.s. defund the israeli military. >> tides also gave about

$6 million to the eight organizations you just saw. they did not respond to our interview request. a spokesperson for the soros foundation says they condemn hamas and support a future that respects rights and freedoms of all. back to you. >> sandra: william, thank you. >> from the river to the sea. >> palestine will be free. >> john: from which river to which sea? a political science professor at u.c. berkeley wanted to find out just how much younger americans know or don't know about the antisemitism chant that they are shouting from coast to coast. what he discovered is shocking and troubling. ron haster, political science professor at the university of california, we have been having some trouble establishing contact with him. we had him a moment ago, but his connection seems to have dropped. but here is a sampling of what

he found. he wanted to know how much these students knew, so he hired a survey company to survey 250 students and here is what he found. the chant "from the river to the sea" 47%, only 47% accurately identified the jordan river, the river, and the mediterranean being the sea. others identified the nile river, euphrates, some said caribbean sea, some said the dead sea, and some people even said the atlantic ocean. ron haster is back on the line with us. ron, you wrote in your op-ed there's no shame in being ignorant unless one is screaming for the ex termination of millions. but how do you explain this level of lack of knowledge of the facts when you are out there in the streets screaming this stuff. >> look, john, we have all been, you know, 18, 19 years old and said stupid things.

i believe what i said. i don't teach students because they are smart when they come to campus, although they have to be willing to learn. i teach students because they are open minded, because they are curious, and it's -- it's a shame that people pry on the ignorance of protestors and provoke them to say irresponsible things like this genocidal slogan. the good news is, that when i showed survey participants some basic facts about israel, when i showed them a map, showed them demographic information, showed them survey results, they understood suddenly what the slogan actually meant, and then two-thirds of them stopped supporting it. >> john: yeah, i thought that was an interesting finding of the survey that you did. when you pointed out that i guess the students thought oh, from the river to the sea means two nations living peacefully co-existence with each other and said no, no, if you go with palestine from the river all the

way to the sea, there's no room left for israel, so 67.8% rejected the slogan from the river to the sea when they learned the facts. you talked about you like to teach students who have a curiosity about the world around them. yet you also found in this survey that when these students were asked who was yassar a arafat identified him as from the palestine -- >> multiple choice question, some may have picked it at random, they did not know the answer. look, i don't know the names of a lot of long dead leaders, but then i also don't stand in the middle of campus screaming for the death of millions of people.

so the fact that they don't know is not the problem. the fact that they act without knowing, that's the problem. but this gives me great hope as a teacher. i run an israel studies institute, super important place to teach about israel and we reached thousands of students who take our classes on arts and culture and history, and no one walks out of the classes with the narrow minded view either 100% for israel or 100% against israel, that's impossible. >> john: you mention something interesting a moment ago. you suggested that people who are organizing these protests and organizing these chants are preying upon the ignorance of a lot of the young people and again, they could be very smart, they may have some sort of a curiosity about the world around them, they are young and might not have learned a lot about the world around them. and when i look back to when i

was 19, i probably didn't know a lot about the world around me. fortunately being a white house correspondent almost two decades i got the opportunity to travel to literally every country in the world with the exception of continental africa. but the idea people are preying on ignorance is very troubling. >> representative tlaib was censored for using the phrase from the river to the sea because people who heard her say it understood she was calling for the ethnic cleansing of 10 million israelis, including, by the way, 2 million israeli arabs, they censored her for it and said no, no, the phrase means peace and co-existence or something. so you know, there are two options here now. either she's misinformed or she thinks we are stupid. she has to believe at least one of those things in order to make

the kind of claim that she makes. so i continue to believe that education is the best tool against political extremism on both sides. i think it's true for students who blindly support israel without asking questions, without ifs, ands or buts, i think they should all take good classes. good classes are not always easy to find. so you have to be smart about who you take a class with, preferably take multiple classes and develop a certain skepticism about the information you receive. >> john: yeah, well, you know, and again, sometimes you have to expand your horizons beyond just getting your news off of tiktok as well. i remember when i was -- i was young, i used to read "time" and "newsweek" every week, how i got a lot of my information. we had the benefit -- >> john, i talked to my students last week, i teach a very large introductory class at berkeley

about war and asked where people get the news, and they no longer go out to get their news the way you and i do. the news falls into their laps, it falls into their devices, and so i talked to them about how to go and search different news sources. >> john: yeah, and the algorithms, too. >> read the "wall street journal". >> john: and the algorithms seem to push the crazy stuff. you and i had the benefit of not having social media when we were their age so did develop a broader parameters for getting our news. professor hassner, an interesting experiment you conducted. >> sandra: a major change could be on the way for college sports, ncaa floats a plan allow schools to pay the student athletes directly. >> john: brian kilmeade standing

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>> john: a real stunner from the world of college sports and not talking about florida state football, we'll get to that in a minute. ncaa is floating a proposal that would allow division i schools to pay their student athletes directly for the first time. this would push some big schools into a new division that looks less like college and more like the pros. we'll get reaction from brian kilmeade just moments from now. one of these days he'll do well enough he gets paid. but first, let's get the details. kelly o'grady live in los angeles. kelly. >> great to see you, john.

pandora's box was opened when it was allowed brands could do endorsement deals with college athletes and now people want more. yesterday ncaa president charlie baker addressed this and said they need to be more flexible and schools need to be more flexible. he sent the letter to all di schools, and three changes, universities can enter into endorsement agreements with student athletes, no cap on education-related benefits and subdivision of the richest schools should be created and each should commit at minimum $30,000 per year for at least half of their student athletes. the proposal argues it will also "help level what's fast becoming a very unlevel playing field between men and women student athletes because schools will be required to abide by existing gender equity regulations." there's been a lot of positive reception to this. a big argument it's going to help athletes who don't have the future in professional sports, a

piece of the industry that's worth billions built off their talent and also some pushback. athletes in many cases are getting scholarships and further this rich school subdivision would likely make the big schools more attractive to talent at the expense of the smaller di schools. >> the schools that are in a lesser position financially are going to have to hone in on some of their strengths because if a player is solely basing his decision on what's he going to get financially, the top dogs are going to win every time. >> and john, you've seen this happen, the power shift in college sports since the michigans, alabamas, this proposal could accelerate that stratification. back to you. >> john: we'll keep watching this and see if it comes to fruition. kelly o'grady, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: bring in brian kilmeade, co-host of "fox & friends" and "one nation" on saturday night, and author, good

stuff, brian, good to have you here. so, do you believe the student athletes should be paid directly? will this help or hurt college sports. >> i think the conversation a few years ago with name, image and likeness rocked sports forever. if sandra smith is a division i soccer player and all of a sudden we want to invest in you, you get a dealership to back you up, a shoe deal, could back you up, and the ncaa said we cannot regulate this and colleges like alabama said we need regulation, this is the wild west. there are no rules, i'm losing out to my recruits because i don't know what nebraska is offering them, i don't know what texas is offering them. so, they want rules. i'm not sure $30,000 a year would do a lot for an average college student but i'm not sure that answers the problem and i have dave portnoy of bar stool

who signs players and says looks like the ncaa is trying to get in on the action, a lot of money going down. if they can collect the money, keep it central and then hand it out to alabama, u.s.c., and texas, then the ncaa is back in the driver's seat. $30,000 is not much compared to the 10 million a coach gets or the 75 million to buy the coach out if you decide to fire that coach. >> sandra: i also wonder, too, if any money involved would prevent these kids from saying you know what, i want the money, i'm going to go into the pros, maybe it will keep more kids in college. is there that thinking to this? >> brian: i don't know anybody that has come from high school to pro. they have to be 19. so option of the d league, the minor league, so what they are doing, they are saying you can stay, you can make some money, but i think this is more for perception for the average person that most of these people that you watch on saturdays and

watch play ncaa basketball are going pro. 1% go pro. this is their moment and they are sacrificing a normal college life and their summers in order to do it and they are told you cannot get another job. so i would like to see them rene renewsroom -- renumerated, and they cannot go to europe if they have 12 credits a year. >> sandra: new subdivisions, schools required to pay each athlete minimum of $30,000, all title ix rules apply, charlie baker, the ncaa president on the goal behind the new proposal. >> even at the most elite level, remember, 99% of the student athletes are not going to play professionally. they are not. so this is about giving them the

ability to launch. what we want is all of these folks to complete their college career and then go somewhere with it. >> sandra: i think everybody has some strong feelings on this. i don't have time to share mine but they run deep. let me ask you about ron desantis, setting aside a million dollars for litigation expenses after f.s.u. college football player snub. exclusion of the seminoles is a poor decision. >> brian: alabama was very happy, so they will play michigan. first time the school was not the final four now florida state feels they are shunned and left out, they are going to play georgia, 29 straight wins until alabama beat them. if you want the team playing the

best right now, nick saban says we are playing the best right now. you want the best four teams, these are the best four teams. i say this. do not sue, go ahead, sell out your game, make your revenue, florida state players will go pro or not pro regardless, the next year it's solved, 12 teams are in. it's a playoff. take it away from the judges, a 13th team unhappy but they solve the problem, unfortunately for florida state it's next year. >> sandra: it's complicated. it doesn't have to be. >> brian: go to the judges, leave people out. >> sandra: great to see you. >> brian: when i see you in studio, i don't see you in the halls. >> sandra: you know what he introed with, for you nonrevenue student athletes, referencing me as track and field. i'm like hold on, you know. we brought in good grades, raised the average, helped recruitment, helped bring money

to the -- >> brian: i was trying to bring some balance. not everyone is a division i player. i was a division ii soccer player, the only ones that came to the games was our parents. i was not helping the school necessarily. >> john: you have to wonder as kelly o'grady was saying, center of gravity moves toward the big schools, they can actually pay the athletes, what happens to smaller schools. davison, where steph curry came out of. >> brian: the haves and have not, or have not as much. about you that's the way the world is, john. you have to realize outside the confines of studio it's a rough place, no fairness. >> john: there's a real world out there, brian. open the door, and stick your nose out, that's how it begins. all right. good to see you, brian. >> brian: good to see you. >> john: president biden denies talking to his son's business partners but republican lawmakers say there is lots of evidence to refute that. that is coming up next.

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>> john: president biden speaking out over the suggestion that he was involved with his son's business dealings calling it "a bunch of lies." but gop lawmakers say the evidence proves otherwise. peter doocy is live at the white house with more. how is the white house

responding to republican plans to move forward with an impeachment inquiry? >> john, they say nothing to it. ian sams, a spokesman for the biden white house told us in a statement the base less stunt is not in reality, but extreme house republicans shameless desire to smear president biden. but republicans are saying president biden made a false comment when he claimed yesterday it is a lie to say that he's ever associated with any of his son's business partners. >> we know joe biden met with or spoke to every single person that wired his family millions and millions of dollars. he wants to continue to say in press conferences that it's a lie, that he never met with these people, when there are pictures, emails, we have now deposed witnesses who have testified under oath that he talked to them on the phone. >> devon archer, a hunter business partner testified under oath that then v.p. biden did

talk to some hunter clients speaker phone about things like the weather and president biden seemed to admit this summer he has talked to these folks, just not about getting rich. >> there's this testimony now one of your son's business associates is claiming that you were on speaker phone a lot with them, talking business. is that -- why is that a lousy question? >> it's not true. >> thank you, mr. president. >> white house briefing just wrapped, this never came up. john. >> john: peter doocy for us at 1600 pennsylvania. peter, thank you. we'll be right back.

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