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clanging and scraping of metal and -- >> two minutes erving you work on your whole life completely gone. >> when we pulled up a lot of tears. we have three beautiful daughters and a wife that they just started sobbing. >> bill: six are dead, dozens more in the hospital. violent tornadoes touching down in middle tennessee. among the victims a mother who lost her life holding onto her 2-year-old child who also died. a 10-year-old boy swept away as well. at this hour, crews are working to restore power to thousands as that young man just said, everything in your life can change in two minutes' time. we're live on the ground coming up this hour. >> dana: also breaking right now israel encircling khan younis. it could be the last major battle and most intense yet in the fight to exterminate hamas.

>> bill: the harvard board of governors meeting behind closed doors as the fate of the president hangs in the balance. we'll find out today maybe i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: i'm dana perino, this is "america's newsroom." a big day of news kicking off the new week. one down, two to go. people celebrating -- mcgill struggled to condemn anti-semitism before congress last week. now it is focused on m.i.t. and harvard. >> bill: you had some billboard trucks in cambridge, massachusetts calling out president gay for defending students who called for jewish genocide. >> dana: critics say gay and other leaders were ambivalent about hate speech on campus and prompting disbelief. >> it was founded on religious

freedom. the number one freedom is that of religion. it shouldn't be difficult to condemn anti-semitism. >> i found the answers of the universities presidents to not be acceptable answers of leaders of any institution. certainly of our best universities in the country. >> bill: college campuses have created a norm that some things are aloud because the liberal left likes them and some aren't allowed because conservatives like them. that has to end. >> good morning. whether or not claudine gay will continue to be harvard's president is expected to be discussed by the harvard corporation today, which is reportedly gathering for the second day in a row in regularly scheduled meetings. video billboards as we just showed were seen on campus sunday demanding gay be fired for failing to say during congressional testimony that calling for the death of jews

violates the code of conduct. the harvard crimeson newspaper reports more than 500 faculty members signed a letter to the harvard corporation sunday night demanding president gay not be fired. urging harvard to resist political pressures from politicians and alumni saying harvard's culture cannot, quote, be dictated by outside forces. the harvard dean of faculty of arts and sciences told the harvard crimson she was disappointed by the missed opportunity of gay's testimony. a major harvard donor and one of gay's most vocal critics said knowing what we know now would harvard consider claudine gay for the position? the answer is definitively no. with this thought experience the board's decision on president gay could not be more straight forward. it was donor pressure that seemed to be the last straw for the university of president liz

mcgill who resigned on saturday. she will remain a tenured professor. as for mit's's the board has the full and unreserved support amid a new congressional investigation into mit and other schools. >> this is not just confined to these campuses. we look at columbia, cornell and many other institutions and want hard working taxpayer dollars not sent to places that promote anti-semitism and we'll see what happens. >> it is not just ivy league schools. the "new york post" reporting georgia washington university's medical school hosted a faculty panel last week that said hamas had a right of resistance against israel. bill. >> bill: bryan llenas. the latest. we'll find out more today dana. >> dana: the first weekend of hanukkah marked by anti-semitic

protests across the country. this was the scene outside president biden's fundraiser in los angeles. [chanting and shouting] >> dana: resistance against occupation, october 7th is a human right. the rhetoric is getting heated online. check out this post from pop singer pink uploading a picture of her and her daughter lighting their menorah. a follower called it tone deaf. the singer replied tone deaf to be a jew for alive? i'm confused. >> bill: we wanted to look at what is happening in the middle east. upwards of 87 hits against u.s. forces serving in the region and a lot of them come back to the houthi rebels in yemen? who are they? not a designated terrorist group. this administration removed them back in february of 2021. the slogan death to america,

death to israel. curse the jews. we've heard a lot about that now. the houthis control 80% of the country of yemen fighting a civil war there for more than five years at the moment. the country of yemen located here in the southern stretch of the saudi arabian peninsula is the poorest country in the arab world. what does it mean to the rest of the world? you have the suez canal to the red sea. a choke point in yemen. another choke point in the strait of hormuz that let's to the persian gulf and look at the country there. that's iran. iran has significant influence throughout the entire region. they have influence in syria, lebanon. we've seen it in the gaza strip and west bank and they have influence down here in yemen. what will we do about it? so far not much. general jack keane joins us. good morning on the monday. i think the answer is pretty clear. today this administration will

not take action against the houthis in yemen. do you disagree? >> yeah, i mean they have issued sanctions against them. they will likely continue to uses courts. we're protecting our ships and israel is taking action to protect itself. but clearly that has been inadequate. we all can see it. your board reveals it. what has to be done is we have to go on offense. and we have to escalate. we have to take the risk to escalate to gain some dominance. not just over the houthis, but over iran, who is using all of their proxies in the region to do what? to weaken israel, that's what hamas and hezbollah is all about. and also eliminate it as a nation state eventually. the houthis are part of that. and the iranian bank iraqi and

syrian proxies as well as the houthis want to drive the united states military presence out of the region. we have to recognize that iran is calling the shots here. we have to escalate also to give them the warning that we're not going to tolerate that and take some military action against something that they value, reagan figured that out. he achieved escalation dominance trump figured it out. why doesn't this administration do it? they think if they do escalate and take this kind of aggressive military action, that it could lead to war with iran. but the 43 years of history in dealing with iran suggests that's not the case. why? because that's why they developed the proxies. they have had these proxies for all of those years to provide distance from the united states. they don't want war with the united states. why? they lose their regime and why

they want a nuclear weapon to preserve the regime. they won't put that at risk. we need to step up and be more aggressive. >> dana: i wanted to also ask you about the hostages. we keep them top of mind. hamas was put under a ton of military pressure by the israeli defense forces and then they said they needed a break. we had the temporary cease-fire. we had some hostages released. now hamas is saying that all remaining hostages will be killed if more aid and prisoner exchanges are not met. so if you are israel or even president biden, do you keep the military pressure on hamas so that they come to the table to give the hostages back or do you worry that the hostages might be killed? >> well, the hostages clearly are the regime leaders of hamas's lifeline. they are threatening to kill them. if they did that, certainly their regime will be absolutely

destroyed, which is the military objective here. what do they really want? the pressure on hamas is very real. there is pressure in the north as they are cleaning up northern gaza and also in khan younis systematically building by building, street by street taking hamas down. many of them are surrendering. they know that some of their ranks are breaking. so what do they really want? they haven't said it but they want a cease-fire. if they have a hostage exchange they will go to a cease-fire. they want to stop the blood shed that they are suffering as a result of it. the israelis have claimed they have killed 6,000 or 7,000 of them or captured, most of them killed, some captured. that is going to continue. so that's the pressure point here. they want a cease-fire to stop the military success that israel is having against them. >> bill: you know in jewish

tradition, how much they covet the human body. and apparently there are 20 hostages who are confirmed dead in gaza but their bodies are still there. and in all likelihood, general, you could have hamas start to negotiate for the corpses of these hostages in order to exact something out of the israeli government. >> there is no doubt about it. we said one of the characteristics of hamas's campaign that was very different, one was the focus on killing civilians in the initial attack on october 7th. and the second one was taking wholesale hostages, something they have never done before. we knew that the hostages would play prominent here in the military action going forward and hamas's leverage to use the hostages to benefit themselves. we see that at play right here. >> dana: general jack keane, thank you for being with us on monday to kick us off. we appreciate it.

breaking news for you here. ramaswamy, republican presidential candidate holding a breakfast town hall in new hampshire on the heels of a new iowa poll showing him in single digits as president trump holds a 32-point lead just 35 days ahead of that caucus. >> bill: the fighter jet. >> dana: he is on the ground. >> bill: he will try to do the double grassley. i don't know if this has ever happened before. he wants to get to all 99 counties in iowa twice so you would have to -- you will get some frequent flier miles in order to do that. there he is in new hampshire as we roll onto this. president biden is coming home and dana, he raised a lot of money over the weekend in california. but his week is off to a tough start . only monday and we'll explain why that is coming up here. >> dana: a migrant in the country illegally stands accused

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>> dana: fox news alert. a story we followed a lot last week in lukeville, arizona. it is a very remote area. and these are not the photographs or video from last week's migrant crossing. this is today. this is right now live happening. so it has not ended at all. this line of single working

males is right here for all of us to see. more on in in a little bit. so everybody knows we're on top of it and keep you posted. >> bill: it continues now. in the meantime you have six dead including two children after a deadly tornado strike in tennessee. the winds so strong it flipped cars on the highway. fox weather's robert ray is live in clarksville, tennessee, one of the hardest hit. how are they doing? >> yeah, bill. it's a tough time here this morning as it is in the 20s. the area is frosted over, sun is out. that's good at least. look at this, bill, just one example of a home that is destroyed. look at this, the entire roof and sides are completely taken off by the power of this ef3 tornado that hit saturday. 150 mile-per-hour maximum winds. look at the christmas tree there. that's what you are going to see, unfortunately, all around

clarksville as we're approaching the christmas holiday in the midst of hanukkah, a very sad scenario, six people have lost their lives, including two children that will never experience another holiday. i'm sure they were looking forward to it. unfortunately, it is not going to happen. look at this, bill, and our viewers. another business that is destroyed and this is what we're seeing this morning as the sun has come up in clarksville, a town of about 170,000 people. home to fort campbell. the second largest military base in america. the 101st airborne division. powerful men and women live here that defend this country and look at these vehicles. you alluded to vehicles swept up on the highway. look at this vehicle on its side, glass broken, frost still on here as the sunburns it off as the temperatures are on the

increase. you can see many different vehicles destroyed, power crews and trucks, bill, are in position right now trying to restore the electricity as thousands are still out and enduring these cold temperatures. the red cross has places set up around town and in nashville, north of nashville where another system came through. the track of this tornado we're told over 40 miles long and 600 yards wide. this area is reeling and will be for many weeks and months ahead. bill. >> bill: you can tell that. robert ray, good to have you on the ground. be in touch with you and folks down there for some time to come. to follow our colleagues at fox weather download the app, it's free. it can connect to any device on your tv as well to check it out on the qr code there on the screen. >> dana: president biden starting off the week with

several personal and political setbacks already. it is only monday at 9:22 a.m. on the east coast. new polling of a hypothetical head-to-head rematch with president trump has biden trailing for the first time. charlie hurt is washington times opinion editors and kennedy. i love your podcast. i want to point this out to you. the new poll "wall street journal," 53% of voters say they have been hurt by biden's policies and 61% disapprove of job performance. left leaning columnist in the "washington post" says don't worry, post, i talked to the people at the white house and they say they have a plan. apparently they do and they're aware of the poll numbers. they don't seem to be getting better. >> i don't think they're aware of them but not in the binder that karine jean-pierre reads from when she does her daily press briefings. they have been ostriching and hemorrhaging their coalition,

their base of voters who came out in 2020. it was a weird year in the middle of the pan team i can and not sure what to do with former president trump and gave biden a try and now all this polling is showing that people are hurting. they are really worried about looming economic woes and they are bailing on him. some of the worst polling numbers they've seen for president biden since the "wall street journal." >> bill: he is raising money apparently. that's a big deal right now. here is hunter biden. i think this was on friday. just go ahead and roll this clip here about republicans. >> they are trying to destroy a presidency and so it's not about me. and in their most base way what they're trying to do is they're trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle. and so therefore destroying a presidency in that way.

>> bill: charlie. >> yeah. it's kind of bizarre. i think it's a hail mary. their only hope is to try to curry sympathy from people. i don't think it will work. the problem that they have is not with hunter biden and his crack head behavior, it's with the joe biden policies. that's what's bothering people. and the number that dana pointed out about 53% of people say the biden policies have hurt them, that's a devastating number. it is worse than the right track/wrong track. he is underwater by 40 points. in terms of actual biden policy he is 30 points under. people that pollsters talk to said 23% of them identified joe biden's policies as helping them. 53% identified joe biden's policies as hurting them. and that's a really hard number to come out from under. they are trying to raise money but if they have to bring out

hillary clinton to help the president of the united states raise money, they are in terrible, terrible shape. >> dana: they're asking her to be a key player in the president's re-election. that might be difficult for them. one of the things they have a problem with is younger people. she has been very stalwart in her defense of israel and something else they have to overcome. let me ask you about this. you two are familiar with ohio. there is a judge there that made a decision about a punishment. so this is the headline from the "new york post." obscure municipal judge made national headlines in sentencing an offender to work at a fast food joint in lieu of prison and what democrats are struggling to maintain their working class base against donald trump. she caused a problem and now has to work there so she can gain empathy. this is her punishment?

>> i look at it in a slightly different way. living in a big city like new york we look at this and said wow, judges can sentence people to prison for assault? that's wild. we don't have that in new york city. bring that judge to new york. i would love someone who does vile things to people on a subway platform that we cannot repeat on a family program. those people get a desk ticket. i would love to see them work for 60 days. the woman who threw it at chipotle will do more prison time than hunter biden. mark my word. >> i think sit a creative thing. more of a statement the idea of sentencing her to work is more of a statement about the status of work in this country. the fact that we do everything we can to undermine people from working. we pay people not to work. we punish people for working. and the result is you get people that throw their chipotle bowl

across the room because they're upset and never had to work. i think it's a good punishment. >> bill: we could say super size it. >> dana: maybe it depends on the chipotle. if you super size a chipotle bowl don't come in for two days. >> bill: harvard's board of directors meet today. a rabbi on their anti-terrorism task force just quit. the chiefs were losing their minds last night. what a play this was. but -- and there is a but. >> dana: what happened? >> bill: the full story when dana reads sports. with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ahh, -here, i'll take that. woo hoo!

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>> dana: update for you now.

this is a tragic story we brought to you last month. a new person of interest is now in custody in connection with the murder of a detroit synagogue leader. you may remember her, she was found stabbed to death outside her home october 21st. the suspect is an unidentified male. the victim did not know him. another person was detained but later released without charges. that person said she did know. that's an update we'll keep an eye on. >> bill: we knew there was more to the story. liz mcgill stepped down from penn on friday afternoon. one down, two to go by stefan i can. a rabbi is with me now. he joined the anti-semitism task force in october and now you quit. how come? >> well, because it was clear to

me that we were not going to be able to make the kinds of changes that harvard needed. and i want to make clear, i don't just mean the replacement of one person or another person. i'm talking about deep, really system-wide changes in the ideology and the procedures of the university. >> bill: can you help us understand that or give us a specific example perhaps that you have seen or experienced at harvard? go ahead, please. >> i was going to say i could give you an experience from yesterday. yesterday people, students were sending me pictures of a protest in the library as students were trying to study for finals with signs and lists of people and accusations of genocide in the library itself. and classrooms have been disrupted. people eating lunch and dinner have been disrupted by protests.

it is a band of students that apparently are not there to learn and to grow. have made it virtually impossible for some other students to do what you are supposed to do at college. >> bill: the school would argue that's free speech. and you would argue it reaches a point where it is no longer allowed because it is crossing the line of being dangerous. how do we determine that, sir? >> i would quote the harvard professor herself, danielle allen. there is a difference between free speech and a climate of intimidation. this has created a climate of intimidation. when students can't study, when they are afraid, when they don't want to go to their classroom, that's not any more a question of free speech, not at a university. if you want to express yourself in a paper or you want to say something publicly at a rally, nobody thinks that's

illegitimate. that isn't what's going on here. what is going on is that a certain group is being systematically targeted over and over again. particularly jews. >> bill: this is a poll overthe weekend and crosses political lines and not clear with harvard, but democrats under the age of 50 have more sympathy for the palestinians than the israelis by a margin of 35 to 13%. so it's either the power of the student body or it's the fact that the adults at that school allow it to happen. >> well, it's both. and adults here is a term that you can sometimes put in quotations because adults are actually the ones who are supposed to supply the guardrails for younger people and that's not happening. >> bill: okay. take you back to last week. "the new york times" by the way

reportedly late on friday that all three presidents were consulted by the same law firm, and you think about the consistency of their answers, i mean, why did they think that would fly? here is one of the exchanges with claudine gay andy lease stefanik. >> i assume you are familiar with the term intifada. do you believe that type of hateful speech is contrary to harvard's code of conduct or is it allowed at harvard? >> it is at odds with the values of harvard. >> bill: is it against the code of conduct as harvard? >> we have free expression even of views objectionable, offensive, hateful. >> bill: i don't know what you were thinking when you were watching that. will she survive at harvard, yes or no? >> i don't know, i honestly don't know. i can't really answer that. what i would say is that what we

were looking for as we were watching that was some indignation and vision, some anger, like i can't believe this is happening at my university. and some vision of where the university would go. and it was so painful to -- not to get either. >> bill: sir, thank you for sharing your story. david, rabbi, thank you. i just want to point out you told us in the commercial break you went to penn. so unfortunately you are now 0 for two. unbelievable. thank you, sir, for coming on. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> dana: crisis at the southern border reaching a breaking point. a firsthand assessment of the worsening situation plus former president trump making a surprise reversal at his civil fraud trial in new york city. why he is saying he is not going to take the stand. nagers are pretty much the same, but at fisher investments we're clearly different. (other money manager) different how? you sell high commission investment products, right?

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>> bill: police in texas now made an arrest of an illegal immigrant in the murder of a 16-year-old cheerleader. the victim's name is liz. her mother found her dead last week in the bathtub of their apartment. this was in southeastern town of edna. police found the suspect 75 miles north of there. more on that story as we get it here. >> dana: fox news cameras are in lukeville, arizona, where hundreds of illegal immigrants are rushing to cross the border. this is from just a few minutes ago. this has been happening day after day. griff jenkins is live in eagle pass, texas, with more. hi, griff. >> good morning, dana. and there is no signs of this surge slowing any time soon. we're getting absolutely hammered at this very moment here in eagle pass. let me take you to the drone and

move out of the way to let you see the line of migrants snaking up the hill from the river. this is a group that at least 500 east lie. you can see these people. venezuela, a majority of them saying they're from venezuela. one of them telling me that they are from angola, african countries, it comes as sources, dana, moments ago told me across the entire southwest border for the weekend from friday to sunday night, 20,100 plus. it is absolutely numbers unsustainable. what you are seeing in lukeville, 1,000 miles west of where i'm standing all the way to eagle pass you have an overwhelmed border patrol force trying to deal with unprecedented numbers coming because they know that the majority will be released. we learned over the weekend our colleague bill melugin learned

that cbp officials briefed an arizona delegation letting them know across the southwest border they are releasing upwards of 5,000 or more migrants a day to the ngos turned loose into the u.s. when you look at an average of 8,000 to 10,000 migrants encountered every day at the border and 5,000 or more are being released it's what is pulling them there. the magnet that at least half of them are being released, which is what they want. we are getting disturbing stats also in those numbers that since october 1st when the fiscal year began, dana, 30 individuals have hit the terror screening dataset. that is concerning and then, of course, what i mentioned the ratio of these migrants to the number of agents is overwhelming. in tucson it is 200 to one. in eagle pass there are 40 agents on shift today monday morning. >> dana: a quick follow-up,

griff. for all those people coming across we can see on the fox drone shot, would all of them have paid a coyote member and money going into the cartels? if so they are just printing money as they send people to our border. >> dana, not a single person crosses that river, that border, without paying somebody. that is why it is a booming business. they are printing money and in many places, the people are more valuable than the actual drugs they are smuggling. that's the crisis going on for 2 1/2 years, dana. >> dana: those videos are unbelievable. that is eagle pass, we showed you what was happening in lukeville, arizona. >> bill: want to talk to the governor from texas greg abbott joining us live. former president trump will not take the stand in the new york civil fraud trial posting a reversal of an earlier decision on his truth social platform. eric shawn has more on that in the newsroom in new york.

what's up, eric? >> good morning. he was supposed to be the final witness in his defense. the former president says his lawyers have done such a good job he doesn't need to testify again. the ongoing civil trial will determine damages after judge ruled the trump organization inflated the value of its assets. the judge has already found trump liable for fraud. trump's defense team said billions of dollars of his properties were accurate. some witnesses denied the former president committed fraud but one said the numbers weren't proper or reasonable. another said deutsche bank cut trump's valuations by half and still provided him loans. the former president posted this in part on truth social saying, quote, world renowned experts and bank and insurance executives, real estate professionals and others have

stated that i and my very successful company did nothing wrong. new york state attorney general james is still seeking at least $250 million in damages and wants to ban trump from doing business in new york state. friday she said trump's experts backfired and actually helped her case. >> donald trump can continue to try to distract from reality. he can continue to call me names. but as the judge said today, the standard is truth. and the truth is on our side. >> the trial is now in its 11th week. court is set to resume tomorrow. there is no jury. the judge will rule eventually on any damages. >> bill: wow, here we go. eric, thanks, eric shawn in new york. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: this is a big one. kansas city chiefs qb patrick mahomes losing his mind on the sidelines after a controversial off side penalty wiped out a

touchdown that would have given his team the lead late in the game against the buffalo bills last night. >> back-to-back losses. he doesn't lose two straight. >> emotions of the game. you know he wants to win so badly. >> dana: chiefs wide receiver was flagged for lining up in the neutral zone. before scoring after a wild lateral from travis kelce who is dating taylor swift. kansas city ended up falling to the bills 20-17. i'm not sure what just happened there. >> bill: i want to tell you, dana, that play is -- there he is off side. his foot is on the blue graphic. he is off sides technically. a lot of that can be called on a lot of different plays. this is a remarkable moment here. sorry, not there. it was the same play. to have -- that tight end is running at full speed down the field dodging in between defenders. he stops, shifts to his right

and throws a perfect dart to his wide receiver. that's amazing. >> dana: it didn't count. >> bill: it could have been the play of the year. i said could have been. >> dana: all right. >> bill: by the way, bengals won. >> dana: congratulations. >> bill: here we go. the fighting rages in gaza. idf on the ground. they may need one more month to clear out the hamas terrorists. back on the ground with our reporters as we begin another week of coverage there and what about the hostages. he is the world's number one in tennis. he never took the vaccine. he got headlines from just about every country on this planet. finally, he explains why. >> i was basically declared as the villain of the world. had basically most of the world against me. out of control. get a newday 100 va cash out loan at lower mortgage rates to pay off those high rate car loans.

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the villain of the world. people tried to, you know, declare me as an anti-vax. i'm pro-freedom to choose. >> dana: tenis legend calling out his critics on his decision not to get vaccinated for covid-19. he is ready for redemption on missing out an ten major tournaments due to vaccine requirements. clay travis, i admired him watching him play tenis. aside from the vaccine piece he talked about mental toughness and resilience and now he handles the pressure to be that good consistently. but the vaccine piece was very interesting. 60 minutes drew that out of him. >> yeah, i think he deserves credit for being willing, dana, to risk the all-time title for

grand slams because he wasn't able to play a couple of tournaments in australia he would have been favored to win and not play in the u.s. open. he spent weeks trying to wait to get into the country. he openly admitted he had covid multiple times and i think in retrospect many people, even those that were zealous advocates of the shot, are now looking around and saying maybe this all was totally ridiculous. i think it clearly was. i've been coming on with you and bill and everybody else for years saying that i thought it was insane that he wasn't able to play. a couple of things, you just killed it, by the way there with your dana does sports on the travis kelce throwback pass. he is getting paid tens of millions of dollars to tell everybody to get the double shot right now. that advertisement runs all the time. but his quarterback, patrick mahomes, just played with the flu a few weeks ago. everybody knew he had the flu

and nobody even blinked or said a word even though patrick mahomes could have given the flu to everybody. he actually had it. dana, that's actually how we treated illnesses in sports for my whole life. michael jordan is even more famous than he otherwise would be because of the so-called jordan flu game. we expect athletes, when they are not playing 100%, to step it up and put it on the line in big games even if they are ill, even if they are throwing up and even if they have the flu. that's been the expectation for a long time. i think what djokovic did was stick to the long-term expectations which are athletes know their bodies better than anybody. if they want to play, then they should be able to play. it wasn't just joe -- there were athletes in different sports. when novak won.

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