>> merry christmas, you filthy animal. >> the figurines aren't sold at the supermarket. adding $5 for those our total was $6five. kevin spent just under $20. >> bill: that house behind you is still beautiful. thank you, kelly, nice to see you in illinois. >> dana: i know that place a little bit indeed. >> bill: you were traveling over the weekend. >> dana: i went to kalamazoo, michigan at the state theater doing a charity event for the west michigan cancer center. a bunch of friends of mine all went there. we had country music songwriters there. it was a great time had by all. >> bill: good talent there. >> dana: they were amazing. >> bill: well done. we have to roll. >> dana: sandra smith is in

next. here she is. >> sandra: thank you, dana and bill. fox news alert here as we begin a new hour, pressure is mounting for the presidents at harvard and m.i.t. to resign after the university of pennsylvania's president stepped down. all three failing to outright condemn the anti-semitism raging on their elite campuses. welcome and this is "the faulkner focus." i'm sandra smith in for harris today. the congressional testimony last tuesday sparked massive and ongoing backlash. they said they would need context to tell if a call for genocide violates their school's codes of conduct. then on saturday u penn announced president liz mcgill's resignation. one editorial board says quote, one awful university precedent down. most of u.s. academia to go. another the ivy league mask falls. it argues this, the furor over anti-semitism on campus is a rare and welcome example of

accountability at american universities. but it will not amount to much if the only result is the resignation of a couple of university presidents. mcgill will stay on until an interim replacement is named and also still a tenured faculty member at u penn's law school. hugo gurdon weighed in. >> the departure of liz mcgill is a small step in what needs to be a marathon. the other two who testified in congress the other day they are just as bad and need to go. >> sandra: lawmakers demanding more accountability. >> we will subpoena their records, emails, any documents, anything that proves that these universities aren't creating a safe environment for their jewish students and if they aren't, then we will pull their federal funding. that's the bottom line. there is a giant double standard here. these universities have become

cess pools for left wing political activism. >> sandra: it seems the fallout is only growing at this hour. >> that's right, sandra. the harvard corporation is meeting today for the second day in a row amid pressure from more than 500 harvard faculty members to not fire harvard president claudine gay. the harvard crimson newspaper reports a letter sent to the board last night urges harvard to quote, resist political pressures from politicians and alumni saying harvard's culture cannot be dictated by outside forces. the pressure continues to rise on harvard to fire gay after her congressional testimony last week in which she failed to say that calling for the genocide of jews violates the school's code of conduct. the only rabbi on the newly-formed anti-semitism task force at harvard resigned saying this about the protests taking place on campus.

>> if you want to express yourself in a paper or you want to say something publicly at a rally, nobody thinks that's illegitimate. that isn't what's going on here. what is going on here is that a certain group is being systematically targeted over and over and over again. supporters of israel and particularly jews. >> it was donor pressure that seemed to be the last straw for the university of pennsylvania president liz mcgill who resigned on saturday following her congressional testimony. president biden is speaking today at an event in philadelphia alongside pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, who is jewish. he held a rally against anti-semitism yesterday and called mcgill's comments, quote, shameful. congresswoman stefanik said one down, two to go. m.i.t.'s board says their president has their unreserved support amid a congressional investigation opened into

universities and where they say anti-semitism is running rampant. >> sandra: bryan, thank you. jason chaffetz joining us now. good to have you here to kick things off for us. what exactly is going on here? people are having a hard time making out just how bad in is on our college campuses. >> look, these university presidents were given a week to think about the answers that they wanted to give. the question was not some big surprise question that they caught up on. they delivered a message that they wanted to deliver and it was not unequivocal and not the right answer and they do deserve to get fired. by the way, president mcgill, that's a very soft landing. let's not pretend she got fired. they resigned into a soft landing in a position. so i don't think they've taken the proper action yet to protect the jewish citizens, the jewish students there on campus and

other religious minorities, by the way. it is -- where is the common sense? these professors -- these presidents are failing the test of common sense. >> sandra: one could easily make that case. the headline of the "new york times." as fury erupts over campus anti-semitism conservatives seize the moment. for republicans the rise of anti-semitic speech and the timid responses of some academic leaders presented a long-sought opportunity to flip the political script and cast liberals or their institutions as hateful and intolerant. the potency of the critique was underscored by how many democrats joined the attack. to that you say what, jason? >> well, it is amazing to me that diversity, equity and inclusion has been the primary

thing rather than protecting some of the minority students that have been involved there. they do it to the exclusion of others and i think you see so many jewish americans saying there is no home in the democratic anymore for us. because if you are not of a certain class or a certain color or a certain background, then there is no room for us. all these people preaching tolerance to us end up being the least tolerant of anybody. if adolph hitler himself showed up on campus and started preaching the genocide and extermination of jews, these university presidents would be saying well, it depends on the context of which adolph hitler said these comments. are you kidding me? in america today? that's just ridiculous. >> sandra: that is happening. there is a column in the free press calling out the treason of the intellectuals pointing to then harvard university dean claudine gay and her statement

after the killing of george floyd. she said there is an acute sense of vulnerability and reminder even the most mundane activities carry inordinate risk. he said the reason gay's carefully phrased answers on thursday infuriated her critics, they weren't technically incorrect but so clearly at odds with her own record. in nothing that gay said last tuesday did she seem aware that jewish students might have felt the same way after october 7th. that is an obvious observation but a worthy one, jason. >> yeah, i believe it was with stefanik, we have to roll the tape who asked if you turn the tables and said it about black americans and the genocide was -- you had to put it in context, but president gay did not answer that question.

i think she is bankrupt here. for certain things but not anybody. it depends on the color of your skin and your ethnic persuasion. that's why everybody is infuriated. not just conservatives. true liberals would also be outraged by this. but, you know, thus far they haven't taken the action that they need to. only the parents, students themselves and the donor class can actually take care of this by excluding these ivy league schools and stop attending and stop sending their money. >> sandra: the backlash is mighty. see what happens in the coming hours and days as it progresses. good to see you. just a few minutes ago rockets lighting up the sky fighting intensifying in gaza as the idf says it is surrounding palestine square in central gaza city. hamas responding with threats to

kill the remaining hostages if its demand for aid and more prisoner releases aren't met. meantime the attacks on u.s. bases in the middle east continue. two more over the weekend. the total now more than 85 since mid-october. the u.s. believes that, like hamas, the attackers are backed by iran. general jack keane said the white house is going too soft on tehran. >> we aren't doing nearly enough here. it is absolutely insufficient. in my judgment, i think it's reckless that we're not standing up here and making certain that our national interests and our troops are going to be protected in the region. what is happening here is the white house, i'm convinced based on my sources, is paralyzed by the fear of us escalating would lead to a direct confrontation with iran. the history of 43 years of dealing with iran does not support that assumption. >> sandra: jennifer griffin has

more for us. threat from the houthis is getting worse. >> the houthis and iranian backed militias in iraq and syria. the 900 u.s. troops in syria and 1600 american troops as bases across iraq are sitting ducks right now taking incoming rocket, drone and mortar fire from proxy forces daily. there are reports of additional attacks today. successfully stopped by u.s. forces. late saturday u.s. troops shot down two incoming one-way attack drones in eastern syria and one targeting the mission support base euphrates that brought the total to 87 attacks on u.s. troops in iraq and syria since october 17th not including a significant escalation of missile and drone attacks by the houthis which is disrupting international shipping in the red sea. this video released by the u.s. navy in conjunction with the army navy game this weekend shows sailors on the u.s.s.

carney. there were missiles fired from yemen that they have successfully intercepted. 17,000 ships pass through the strait every year. 10% of commercial traffic, 9 million barrels of oil every day go through there. over the weekend the french navy shot down two houthi drones patrolling the red sea. on that same day houthi leaders said their forces will target any ship heading to or from israel. israel's prime minister netanyahu reportedly told president biden if he doesn't handle the houthis, israel will. the u.s. is focusing on expanding a multi-national naval task force to address the alarming rise in attacks. sandra. >> sandra: jennifer griffin reporting live at the pentagon. thank you. the crisis at the southern border reaching a new breaking point. officers so overwhelmed they are

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>> sandra: the u.s. announced a short time ago the air force has disciplined 15 people in connection to the intel leaks

from air national guardsman jack teixeira. he served with the massachusetts air national guard's 102 pbte intelligence wing was charged with sharing hundreds of classified documents online in june. he pleaded guilty to six counts. the air force is investigation said a small number of individuals in teixeira's unit had a more complete picture of his intelligence seeking behaviors but failed to report him appropriately. the punishments range from being relieved from positions to non-judicial punishment under the uniform code of military justice. the commander of his unit was relieved of his command. president biden on his way to philadelphia to fundraise and announce new grants to firefighters. his son's indictment on federal tax charges is putting a dark cloud over all of it. the sprawling 56-page indictment filled with scathing details about hunter biden's extravagant

lifestyle is sure to be political capital for republicans already weighing an impeachment inquiry into the president. his son accused of evading more than a million dollars in taxes between 2016 and 2019 while his father was pushing for the wealthy to pay their fair share. former assistant u.s. attorney andy mccarthy summed it up with this headline. the hunter biden tax indictment is a disaster for the white house. house republicans insist there is plenty of evidence for them to dig through. >> there is so much circumstantial evidence, we would not be doing our constitutional duty if we didn't pursue it. >> his actions were inappropriate in not pay to play and why we are elevating the investigation. >> president joe biden was part of so many things that hunter biden was doing. we need to continue to investigate.

>> sandra: democrats firing back. >> an extreme political stunt. 0 evidence that links the president to any business dealings or wrong doings of hunter. >> sandra, house republicans are saying they have to push for this impeachment inquiry because they claim the biden white house is holding out on them. >> they have nothing to hide they should not be fighting this impeachment query. we get to the bottom of it. if he had nothing to hide he would be completely transparent. open the books. >> the white house has organized a war room. they say the impeachment inquire eave is a way for speaker johnson to keep his right frank happy. >> throws red meat to the base the same way kevin mccarthy did this summer to launch this political exercise to attack the

president when we should be focusing on real issues. the president will focus on real issues and we'll push back against this stunt very hard. it won't distract the president from ukraine aid that they won't take up before they leave town for a month. >> all of this stems from overseas work that hunter biden admits he did and now he is suggesting that his dad's political rivals may be trying to get him to relapse on drugs. >> they are trying to destroy a presidency and so it's not about me. and their most base way, what they are trying to do is they are trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle. and so therefore destroying a presidency in that way. >> president biden has not said one word about hunter biden's latest indictment. ignoring questions about it twice already today. sandra. >> sandra: peter doocy live at

the white house. the day is early. well oh he see you again in a bit. phil holloway, criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor joining us now. the day is young. who knows where it goes next. your thoughts and hunter biden in his own words. republicans are trying to kill me. what is your reaction to that? >> great to be with you as always. listen, these indictments. of course let's remember there are two of them, they are very well founded and as we say in the law, i think his goose is cooked. hunter biden is most likely, barring some kind of presidential pardon, most likely going to be convicted eventually and do some time in jail. his own words like he mentioned in the podcast, he wrote a book about this. he wrote memoirs and in those memoirs he detailed in his own words a lot of the salacious information that was quoted by weiss and his team of attorneys in these indictments, sandra. he goes into detail about all of

the things involving the hookers and the drugs and everything else. here is the thing. he admits that for large periods of time during the relevant time period he wasn't paying taxes, he was high, out of his gourd on crack cocaine for 24 hours a day, seven days a week. so this begs the question, how can someone in that state manage to earn enough legitimate revenue, sandra, such they would owe more than a million dollars in taxes on it? so all of the things about the lifestyle, the hookers, and the women and the drugs, all that is certainly interesting and what people want to talk about, but we have to focus on the source of this revenue. where did it come from? why did it come from wherever it came from? who knew about it and who participated and who benefited? weiss isn't interesting in investigating that issue. it will be up to the house of

representatives to get to the bottom of it. it is the source of the revenue, not how it was spent. >> sandra: hunter biden's attorney accused prosecutors of caving to republican political pressure. he also said this earlier about the tax case, listen to this. >> when they're late or whether there is a mistake or when there is something to be done what the i.r.s. and government does is they ask questions, they ask for backup, they bring civil actions, what they don't do is take a two-count misdemeanor in june and turn it into a 56 indictment in december. why he was as everybody knows at the bottom of the barrel of his addiction to crack cocaine which explains a lot of his misconduct and also addresses whether he was in what they call a scheme as opposed to just being at the dullest part of addiction. >> sandra: what about that? is political pressure fueling

this case? is being an addict a defense? >> well, being an addict is not really a defense. if you listen to what his attorney is saying, he is not addressing really the merits of the cases against hunter biden, which i submit are very strong. but there is the reference to the earlier case that would have resulted in this sweetheart plea deal. that plea deal is looking really good, i'm sure now, in the rearview mirror now that it is gone. now that it was rejected by the judge. it allows all this other stuff to happen. but let's not forget that a lot of potential crimes prior to 2016 are now barred by the statute of limitations. weiss apparently missed any opportunity to investigate or even charge any of those types of things. so congress, though, congress is not bound by the statute of limitations. it is incumbent upon congress to be back further and explore whether or not there was, in

fact, any kind of pay for play. in other words, was hunter biden trading on his father's name? did his father benefit from it? did his father know about it or even participate? these are the fundamental questions that are absolutely critical to be resolved and the nation needs to know these things and so if weiss is not going to do it, the house of representatives apparently has to. >> sandra: interesting perspective analysis. this holiday season is less sparkly and bright in some cities across the country. why public celebrations are being canceled from coast to coast. plus a showdown in congress over the crises unfolding on president biden's watch both at home and abroad. >> the president wants funding for ukraine. republicans want to secure the border. we won't negotiate on ukraine until we secure the border. >> sandra: the funding fight highlights the president's

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>> sandra: six people are dead, dozens more are in the hospital after tornadoes tore through central tennessee and the nashville area. among those killed, a 10-year-old boy and a mother found cradling her dead 2-year-old son. the power of the storm caught on video. >> oh [bleep]. oh my god. >> sandra: those transformers exploding in the high winds lighting up the sky. cars flipped on highways, mobile home tossed by high winds and crushed a neighboring home. crews working to restore power to thousands. cleanup could take weeks. to keep track of storms like

these download and stream fox weather for free on your phone or on any connected tv device. on the border crisis, continues to set records. an unprecedented number of illegal immigrants rushing to cross into our country every day. border agents are so overwhelmed, they say, sources telling fox they are releasing 5 thousand migrants a day to non-government organizations. congresswoman kat cammack on the dangers it poses. >> sometimes it feels like it is out of sight out of mind unless you are in a border town or if your community has been hit by fentanyl or by the crime wave that comes with an open border policy. this is presenting exceptionally big, big issues for all of our communities, not just -- from a safety standpoint. there are no consequences. >> sandra: griff jenkins is live at the border in eagle pass, texas. griff, at one point we used to

be shocked by the numbers. it is coming in every single -- still as overwhelming as the first time we heard such big numbers. >> that's a great point, sandra. i've been doing this for at least a decade. certainly repeatedly over the last couple years i was here in eagle pass in september and october and now here in december again. i am shocked by what we're seeing. you can see migrants being loaded up. this is yet another large group. we have had at least 400 to 500 a day. migrants. [speaking spanish] >> from honduras, venezuela. they have been coming from all over. they are putting the women and children first out of this group but let me take you to our drone and send you 1,000 meters down the hill. that's yet another group down there. they will be walked up here, organized and a majority will be

released. i learned moments ago from cbp officials that over the weekend friday to sunday there were 20,100 plus migrants encountered across the southwest border. if it's 5,000 a day and you have 10,000 released that means half of these folks standing here right now will be given a notice to appear and turned loose into the u.s. we don't know where they will go or what they will do or if they show up for their hearing. as you see that next group this is what has been happening now for the last several hours and the concerning stat that we got from bill melugin's reporting at the end of last week that 30 individuals have hit the terror screening database since october 1st when the fiscal year began. we can bring in the shot in lukeville 1,000 miles to my west. another epicenter of the folks coming. there they are getting people over the weekend from bangladesh, egypt, china, senegal. i met a man in this group right

here that is from angola from africa. he spent five months traveling. he spent thousands of dollars to fly to brazil, made the dangerous walk went through central america and mexico and here today. who knows? maybe he will be released. a concerning issue and why arizona's governor democrat governor katie hobs went to lukeville to the breach in the wall there and had criticism for the biden administration. she simply had enough. listen here. >> arizona can't do this alone nor should we have to. we're asking the federal government to reimburse us for the costs to arizona. for far too long arizona has born the brunt of federal inaction on the southern border and i'm tired of it. now is not the time for partisan politics, it is time for action. >> you can see the action that the border patrol is doing. exhausted, numbed and

overwhelmed. they continue to process this. last stat i leave you with. we learned last fiscal year more than 673,000 known gotaways. they disappeared into the night. we don't know who they are or where they are in the country. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: those are just incredible live images you bring to us from the border there. thank you for your reporting from eagle pass, texas. ben domenech editor at large at the spectator joining us now. your reaction to that first. griff continues to show us this steady stream of migrants coming over the border. very interesting you just popped the question to a few of the migrants standing there, venezuela, honduras. there was mostly adult males standing in that particular moment. >> well look, sandra, you also heard the comment from griff about the number of gotaways that we've experienced in the past year. we are approaching very quickly

the number 2 million in terms of known gotaways since joined became president at the beginning of 2021. that's an enormous number. people pay attention to the numbers of people who are actually going through the migrant system including the people that you saw there that griff was pointing out who are released to these ngos and the like. that number is astronomical. what about the 2 million people who are getting here and then purposefully evading that type of system? going in different directions in ways we don't know. that number has to include people who we don't want to be here for the kind of threat that they may pose to america. we've seen the problems around the world when it comes to an inability to defend your borders. i think in this case we're just biding our time until we experience the kind of ramifications that could happen if people who bear america ill will who engage in criminal and potentially terrorist activity, you know, end up in situations

where they can do harm to us. >> sandra: we'll continue to monitor these live pictures in eagle pass and lukeville, arizona, screen right there, as this migrant flow continues. i want to head overseas now, ben. president biden has invited ukrainian president zelensky to the white house. happening tomorrow and expected to meet with congressional leaders. one week before congress breaks for the holidays and still little movement on the president's national security package that includes funding for ukraine, israel, and our southern border. top senate negotiators blaming each other. >> this started with the biden administration saying we need to do a national security package that has israel, ukraine, taiwan and the border. then they immediately came out and said we need more than funding. >> this is one of the most dangerous moments i've ever faced in american politics and i wish republicans weren't holding israel aid and aid to ukraine hostage to the resolution of immigration reform. >> right now republican demands

are unreasonable. >> sandra: critics calling out the president's foreign policy failures. an opinion piece saying it is convenient for mr. biden that maga republicans oppose aid to ukraine. he can blame them for his failure to deliver. true that congress is playing politics with american credibility and ukrainian lives, so is mr. biden who has the power to arm ukraine today if he wished. your thoughts on that, ben. >> well, i think there are a number of things going on. i would dispute murphy. if in is around immigration reform is absurd. this isn't about legal changes. this is about giving the border the support that is needed to handle this historic level of people coming over and to the degree that is responsible that follows the law as written. and that deals with it in the way the biden administration has refused to do so under secretary mayorkas. as for the ukraine funding

question, look, the majority of americans want to continue to send weapons and resources to ukraine but also want a clear goal, an end in sight. something that is possible and realistic. i think that unfortunately, the administration has overpromised and underdelivered. they dragged their feet in giving the ukrainians the kind of long range are till tree and modern fighter jets they wanted to bring a swift resolution to the conflict. as much as russia has been isolated, as much as they have seen their power really frankly closed in in ways that include the expansion of nato, the falling apart of the -- all the other ramifications of blood and treasure they have spent in ukraine russia has 18% of thafr territory. the likelihood of a negotiated peace is increasing every day and we need to continue to support ukraine to force something like that to happen and not allow for the russians

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>> sandra: another round of bad polling for president biden spells more trouble for his 2024 bid. new cnn poll says he trails trump in michigan and georgia and struggling with his approval rating. he has just 37% approval. that is a record low for that poll. senator mitt romney says he wishes the democrats would run someone else. >> do you think that senator manchin is going to run? >> no, i don't. i wish he would. i wish he would be the democratic nominee. there are a couple of democrats i might think of that would be a better nominee, i think, than president biden. >> sandra: as for senator manchin, he did choke about a

potential run over the weekend saying, quote, the president is 81 years old. donald trump is 77. the american people are ready to pass the torch to a new generation. somebody younger. i would say maybe someone close to 76 that doesn't look a day over 70? gianno caldwell and leslie marshall. >> 100% sending a message. is he considered a republican. democrats all over the country are sounding the alarm on joe biden and saying he needs to be rep replaced. they were talking how democrats need to replace joe biden at the top and our very own polling at fox news just a few weeks ago showed record high disapproval for joe biden, african-americans 41% disapprove. 60% hispanic disapprove.

men, 63% disapprove. people see that there are major issues with joe biden being the candidate for the democrats and you can see why through the numbers, crime, the border, inflation, all those issues are still problematic for his candidacy and the democratic party. they should replace him if they want to potentially have a shot. >> sandra: leslie, good to have you on the program. do the bad polling numbers concern you? >> you know, the numbers concern me but when they are -- when it is happening, right now 11 months from the election does not. there has never been an accurate predictor with polls this far out from the election whether it's favoring a democrat or favoring a republican on the other side. so we have some time. look, a couple of things here, first of all, it's far from the election it's too late to replace the president, two, republicans should be happy if

they feel that joe biden is the candidate that you can beat and he shouldn't be replaced. look at the numbers with newsom up against trump with everybody saying he is running a shadow campaign. it comes down to four states, two of which in the polls, the former president has usurped the current president. georgia and michigan. we also have arizona and wisconsin. that is where it will come down to. this will be a very tight race, as presidential elections have historically for the past few years. we're divided. it comes down to four or five states and swing voters in those states. do i like the numbers? no. when you look at the results that we saw in ohio, when you look at the results we saw in the mid-term election, i can't get worried about the polls. i go to look at the other polls, exit polls that show the results and abortion is a big issue that is not covered in this one. >> that's accurate.

abortion is a huge issue. >> sandra: i want to ask you with the nbc news report on former secretary of state hillary clinton expected to expand her roll in the president's re-election efforts next year. hosted a $1 million fundraiser for biden in her georgetown home over the weekend. a democratic insider saying at the end of the day biden needs all the help he can get. he needs both the spirit and the actual reality of unity. both of which he has struggled on. one could make the case in that, too, has shown up in the polling. >> we know that this is very personal for hillary clinton because of her getting badly beaten in 2016 by donald trump. someone who wasn't supposed to win. the truth of the matter is she has a number of negatives herself. probably joe biden is now went beyond her but certainly whatever help you can get, i'm sure, will be appreciated. i don't think it moves the

needle in terms of the voting population. one last point, he can be replaced, leslie, at the dnc convention. >> sandra: final on that before i move on. >> he can be, but unwise. if i'm running a marathon i don't want to sprint. hillary clinton is not running, three she is a terrific fundraiser and four endorsements i would agree don't move the needle either way, money does and she can raise money. >> sandra: meanwhile for some the holidays are not looking quite as festive this year. traditional public holiday celebrations are canceled to avoid taking sides on israel. governor newsom did not hold the annual christmas tree lighting fearing pro-palestinian protests. art and music festival in virginia denied a rabbi from holding a menorah lighting.

he said this. >> everything about hanukkah is publicizing our values, our faith, our conty knew torics our history, our destiny and what we've learned the hard way over the centuries is that every time we step back from the public square and we try to hide who we are, we just further embolden the anti-semites to come after us. >> sandra: the "wall street journal" editorial board arguing the say that it is to approve the killing of men, women and children. it is a good argument for more light in the sense of such darkness. your thoughts. >> we should not be hiding our values especially at a time like this. if there is a ceremony that goes on they should do it and a bigger crowd to show solidarity with the israeli people. now, very quickly one in five young people in the united

states of america hold anti-semitic views. 30 and under. that's a problem. we see it on college campuses. we have to be a problem. we have to speak out against that. >> sandra: leslie. >> young people want a cease-fire and i think safety is very important. we have a 200% increase in attacks in incidents against muslims and 300% increase against jews. it is important to be safe even though it's the holiday season. >> sandra: as always, thank you both for joining us. appreciate the debate. all right. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus" as we kick off a brand-new week. good to have you. i'm sandra smith in for harris today. i'm back at 1:00 p.m. eastern time for america reports. "outnumbered" will begin after the break.

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