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>> emily: hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and joining us today fox news correspondent molly line, fox news contributor katrina campins and mission.com's chris valletta. harvard standing by their president, claudine gay testified on antisemitism and appeared to defend students calling for jewish genocide. watch. calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct, correct? >> depends on the context. >> it does not and this is why you should resign. >> emily: after that testimony, harvard governing board is throwing full support biden president gay stating as members

of harvard corporation we reaffirm support for president gay's continued leadership of harvard university. we are confident president gay is the right leader to help our community heal and address the serious societal issues we are facing. trouble doesn't end there for the ivy league president, she is facing accusations of academic plagiarism. this shows striking similarity between gay's dock toral dissertation. harvard board says the matter has been addressed. the university became aware in late october of those allegations, december 9, the fellows revealed the results of inadequate citation.

no violation for misconduct, president gay is proactively correcting four corrections in two articles to insert citations omitted from the original publication. now new york congresswoman elise stefanik is hitting back. >> this is moral failure of harvard leadership and higher education at the highest levels. only change they made to their code of conduct, where they fail to condemn genocide of the jewish people, they are allow mraj /* mraj plagiarism. >> chris: if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything, it was a vanilla

conference and bugged me. someone in her position has unique responsibility to lead. leadership is responsibility, in one word. to take responsibility to promote freedom of speech and protect it and make sure she is leading by example to ensure it is done with dignity and reverence for everybody, stand for that, harvard. you are staring down the face of irrelevancy and i'm glad for that. they should be staring down that threat. if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything, we bore witness to something that was really sad. >> emily: the board references deliberations, a student wrote an op ed calling out, decrying

the university support of 34 student organizations that supported hamas and lack luster response thereof to a jewish student attack by other students. the list goes on. the notion she says she's the right person to heal the university, there was never deliberation at all. >> kayleigh: she is not the right person. i opened my harvard inbox and have a statement and read it. here is how it goes, university's initial statement by claudine gay should have been condemnation. original statement was not the case, it was equivocal, did not condemn hamas. three days, 72 hours and finally we get harvard saying hamas is a terrorist group. number one in the statement. number two, calls for genocide are despicable.

your president was asked about calls for genocide and she said, it can be depending on context. calls for genocide don't merit context, they are wrong and they are morally wrong and that should be a knee-jerk reaction. we are united in strong belief that calls for violence will not be tolerated. tell that to jonathan freedom, tell that to the law student when 200 people who ran in and his friend under the table runs to the dei office and the doors are locked. that is sad. i am proud to have gone to this university, i worked to get into it. i wanted my children to strife for that university. >> emily: the president said let00 me be clear and i am

sorry. why so hard to name something for what it was indeed calls for genocide and harassment, why hover in perception than reality, she had to walk it back after. 39 students were let go from harvard because of inadequate citation, additional layer of hypocrisy after plagiarism allegations resurfaced. >> great points, one interesting thing i felt this was set up to be as if university presidents were ready to defend free speech and elise stefanik got you question, simple, straightforward, easy question. perhaps because she is harvard alum, and familiar with culture there and we've watched this from the beginning, she knew they would be giving equivocating answers and it

didn't happen and didn't happen and then the apologies come. in the statement, raising a great point, harvard corporation talks about the university's initial statement should have been immediate from the beginning when the student groups put out their statement, harvard had a weak response and thursday response from president gay and that was beginning week. this was an opportunity to get to a point of moral clarity and same thing again with yet another another follow-up statement. and here we are, board, harvard corporation is saying, this is it, this is how it is going to go. i don't know if we'll see anything change. >> emily: who is surprised? supreme court ruled against it. it is not about the president, it is about rot that has taken place throughout campus and

generations for so long. >> first amendment protects free speech, not all speech protected by the law, when speech involves hatred or harassment or bullying, that is not protected by the law. all 50 states have laws against bullying. american people have lost confidence in higher education and it is down to 36% confidence and i don't believe a lot of americans think universities and colleges are not biassed against political views and this outrage is taking place and words from university presidents are so hypocritical because they are using free speech as a reason not to condone and discipline these antisemitism remarks. >> emily: more to come, including this, biden administration is doing clean-up

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>> hostages families were not put on the white house hanukkah celebration list. ruby chen, whose son is reservist missing since the october 7 attack said a number of hostages were in washington, d.c. this week and had reached out to the white house asking to

attend, but were not invited. it was revealed this morning, the president will meet with the families tomorrow. ruby chen, his son, we have his picture we'll put up, they wanted to attend the ceremony. they were not invited and the white house declined to commend, it seems like clean-up tomorrow. the biden administration met with the families in the past, they would have been a welcomed invitation. >> emily: the whole point is these families is to maintain attention on the fact there are eight american israeli hostages still under the brutal care of hamas and any bit of attention is welcome, any bit of sunlight,

any bit of commander-in-chief saying you matter, you are included and we are fighting for you and to be rebuffed by repeated efforts to be included in a hanukkah celebration seems like a slap in the face and being extended an invitation for the next day, i'm sure we are all appreciative for any attention, but they must feel abandoned and disheartened. >> kayleigh: the president talked about efforts to help hostage families, who better to have than family of the hostages. what is happening politically and with polling and i saw this in politico researching this segment. my mind transitioned there, biden says clear of calling for ivy league president

resignations. biden has largely declined to insert himself, his decision to keep distance reflects long-standing attitude it must be careful in battles it picks. i bring that up, he seems to be walking a tight rope, supporting israel, unequivocal in word, not wading in to isolate progressive base. >> katrina: i don't think he knows what is going on, this reception and inviting them back is a pr move. i do not think there is authenticity or genuine care for the families and it is evident. when you try to stand for

everything, you have to make stands. >> kayleigh: taking a stand, president obama took a stand on issues, president trump took a stand on issues, some didn't like what they stand for, this president is walking a tight rope. not designating houthis a terror group, but my point is, not taking that stance. questions we raise are important and i would love to get clarity from the white house and explain what happens here so it doesn't feel like a holiday rebuff and we are left with not understanding why this happened. the president did affirm military assistant would continue, but noted he has to be careful. the whole world's public attention can shift, we have to

be careful. when we went and flew to israel and stood there and said he is involved in trying to get hostages out and made phone calls personally, so i don't know and would love clarity from the white house on that. >> kayleigh: we got clarity from the second gentlemen, doug emhoff tweeted this last night. story of hanukkah is one of hope and resilience, jewish people were forced into hiding, no one thought they would survive, they survived and oil kept burning during eight days of hiding and continue their tradition, that is why hanukkah means dedication. fox news points out it is reded occ dedication of.

if you tweet something, be clear on tradition, he deleted it, kamala's husband. >> chris: it is fitting hanukkah is about dedication, this is a huge missed opportunity for the administration to demonstrate unwaivering support for hostages kept overseas. the word context seems to be word of the day or month. talk about this context, who is looking at optics, how do i not invite them? i am glad the president is meeting with the families, this is a missed opportunity in way that aligns to true meaning of hanukkah and that is most important, it is failure in optics and this administration will not be held accountable to dipl

diplomatic, it is results and the president missed that opportunity and it is sad. >> kayleigh: it is sad, there is this tweet, emily, and the gas stove tweet over thanksgiving with gas stove in the back. interns need to start reading tweets and screening pictures. >> emily: you have toy are introduce doug to the american people, nobody knows his name anymore. second gentleman, this is his name, we need that refresher. >> kayleigh: every moment you bring hostage families in bring light to their story, that is what this is about. first fiction film produced by the obamas released on netflix and there is a warning about white people, some are labeling racist. but we know christmas isn't about something you buy at a store. it's about something so much greater. it is the day we celebrate the incredible truth

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>> emily: former president barack obama and his wife michelle are getting mixed reviews over first fiction film for netflix, with some accusing it being racist. the family's trip takes a turn creating an atmosphere of paranoia. this scene in particular is being singled out for sowing racial divide. >> remember that if the world falls apart, trust should not be doled out easily to anyone, especially white people. even mom would agree on that. >> emily: the obamas are executive producers and director says former president gave extensive notes on the script. antiwhite racism is still

racism. another user writing plot could have been perfectly delivered without any racism, divicive narrative needs fuel. others defending, writing it shows both white and black families and characters with initial prejudices and adding without watching movie in entirety, you are falling for exact point of the movie by only citing the division. it raises good questions. vanity fair reports that barack obama gave extensive notes and the writer saying he gave notes about the characters. he was giving notes as a fan of the book and wanted to see really good film. >> kayleigh: did obama miss that part or okay with that part? that is what i love to know, if he's okay with that part, i

would love to know. i would just say this, it seems major headline when that is critical race theory in nutshell, you are oppressed or oppressor based on the color of your skin. why not a headline in the newspapers. and vanity fair, barack obama gave major feedback on leave the world behind script noting the director got scared, that is headline, why isn't headline, former president reviewed script embedded with this line and how did it get through? >> emily: it sets the scene to applaud assumption of purposely writing this. gemelle hill call it exquisite

masterful trolling. >> it is interesting to see what former presidents do. i think we can leave george w bush's beautiful painting aside on this, former president jimmy carter wrote extensively, his books were criticized. most recent president criticized. this is art and culture and to a certain extent, i have not seen the film, maybe the characters are in a certainly scene. until the full is watched, i'll leave it up to the culture critics of which many are weighing in as being not so much about race and culture and things happening in society, critique of how dependent we are

on. >> emily: chris, some are saying that it seems to be in obama's wheel house, some argue no president sowed more racial that obama. this is simply him digging into further what he has made a pattern of, they say. >> chris: maybe that is the case, i have not seen the movie or didn't read the book. that is debate for others. i came in on importance of major political figure like obama and topic of cyber security and importance of cyber security as national security issue. did anyone at the pentagon review his notes? i have no idea, i doubt it. it is risky when a major political figure enters into

narrative that is discussed on national security, particularly with that narrative is shaped by people who are out to make a profit and that is scary for the company. >> emily: the fact i think intelligence community has been clamoring about the cyber world and infrastructure and everything and no presidents have done anything about it, obama included, now maybe he is doing something about it. he is not on the campaign trail for biden, what say you? >> i agree, as former president, you have a responsibility to lead by example and be very careful, as you said, molly, what you stand for and put out. i have not seen the movie, i have to see it to make more professional opinion on the topic. >> kayleigh: i have a lot of movies to see before that one. >> emily: hallmark christmas

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between three refs during a fourth grade basketball game. >> oh, my goodness. >> hey, hey. [screaming] >> emily: i mean, molly, these are fourth graders, not n.f.l., not nba, fourth graders. >> molly: the refs are like 40. worst thing, people have lost their temper and now there is a phone and we see it. this is terrible and there are kids watching, they seem to be as if they are having their own game and match on the floor, some sort of wrestling boxing thing they created. you can tag in people, too many

on the floor. it is wild and unacceptable. they should know it. i don't know if there is clarity of mind, it is not occurring to anyone this should not be happening in front oflet kids. >> kayleigh: all three referees were suspended, merited. >> we wonder why kids are going wild and out of control. i've been working with my son to figure out if you are having a tantrum, we added emotional wheels, what are you feeling right now. if a kid is able to really figure out what that emotion is instead of having an outburst, they can get to the root of it and we as adults need fo lead by example. this is ridiculous, we wonder why kids are getting suspendd

and so much hatred and division. it begins at home. >> kayleigh: my daughter is four years old, she decided to flail her body and kicked me in the eye, i might as well of been in the ring. she cried, mommy, did i hurt you. >> chris: that is when you come into your moment, you are not a parent until you get kicked in the face by your four year old. we have a new reality series, refs gone wild. i've seen this, i'm in texas and i coach my eight year old and 10 year old flag football teams. in texas, flag football, football ranks with oxygen and jesus, there is intensity. i have not seen two refs go at

it, that is a new low. i agree with what you both just said, this is opposite of what sports is intended to teach kids, teamwork, respect, healthy competition and end of this game, what do they do? lineup and shake hands. that is what i try to teach my boys, what decision should have been made will in this moment versus what decision was made. i will show that video to them, i want them to see that and be presented with those, accountability, it was sad to see that on display, it is reality in this country. >> kayleigh: you are with fourth graders, what could have compelled you to take a swing at someone? >> emily: i was laughing because it looked ridiculous, like a scene out of -- you hope adults

know how to articulate this, the sportsmanship, if you are not demonstrating that or modeling it, my children, after we play board games, look each other in the eye and say good game, good game, we are teaching them exactly that, how to process frustration and rage, not by duking it out. end of the day, i hope there is accountability and i hope. we need to remind everyone they have zero tolerance for this kind of behavior. why a 38-year-old woman says she's been betrayed by feminism, next.

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>> president biden meeting with president zelenskyy going over funding for the war there. presidents of harvard and mit under fire despite support from universities. should they stay or go? clash of cultures for you. house preparing to vote on full impeachment inquiry, will it pass and could it lead to articles impeachment against president biden? and "snl" skit, what does it say

about the state of big media comedy. i'm john roberts, join sandra at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> emily: 38-year-old woman is getting viral attention for sharing regrets about ditching idea of marriage and family. her article reads, i'm 38 and single and realized i want a child, i'm terrified i've missed my opportunity. that woman's name is melissa and she's revealing what she thinks caused her current situation. >> i feel unbelievably betrayed by feminism, i was fed this idea that women can be everything, we don't really need men. women can have the great career and have the kids they like and

change tires and do this. i mean, i grew up thinking -- men are great, but i can do all the same things. i feel in many ways betrayed by that way of thinking, i want to go back to some of those teachers and coaches and say, what did you mean by that? because women can't do it all, we can't. >> emily: your thoughts on this? >> katrina: i'll go deep here. i have a lot of opinions on this, i think feminism has sabotaged women's happiness because we are asked to do different things. our nervous system goes whack. i'm in work mode, mother mode, family mode and your system goes

out of whack. the divine feminine is the wildest and most honest mirror a man will ever encounter. tame his dragon and face his deepest shadows since he knows deep within his heart will guide her home. there is difference in feminine and masculine feeling. a woman wants to feel safe with a man and feel her energy, it is difficult when you try to fulfill all the different roles, which is what i think this woman is feeling now and a lot of women in powerful positions are feeling and this idea if you are powerful you can't be a beautiful wife or a beautiful mother. so i think we need to go back to really the way god designed us to be, as women, we need men and

it makes for a beautiful balance. >> emily: chris, influence starts in the home. moral is she felt betrayed by her influences, if she had been influenced in the home, there wouldn't have been confusion, does that make sense? >> chris: it does. this is a weird topic for me to talk about. we grew up with parents that had, my brother and i, in their early 20s, that was their decision and that was great. my wife lilly is an entrepreneur and she built her business in her 20 and 30s and she didn't have children until our mid-30s. as a man, her husband and protector, i take my personal

responsibility to be her greatest advocate and chee cheerleader for her and i think more men should take this responsibility, not that i'm on a high horse, i think it is role of a man to do that. >> emily: all right. >> kayleigh: fox news alert, president biden at an off-camera fundraising event told attendees that israel is losing support and at hanukkah event warned israel they could lose support, this ringing similar from reporting from last night. molly, biden returned to issue of israels and conflict with hamas, at the d.c. fundraiser. bibi has a tough decision to make, biden said, this is the most conservative government in israel's history, added the

government does not want a two-state solution, israel is starting to lose support around the world, prime minister netanyahu has to strengthen and change the israeli government to find a solution to the controversy. commander of the free world criticizing a u.s. ally. and a u.s. ally currently at war and the leader. in the wake of the october 7 attack, there has been criticism of him and this underlying criticism of the leadership there in israel that has been a concern. here in america, also and around the world, protest wooech seen unfolding, as well. it is a delicate time, i think the president has been fairly conscious of that and made

efforts to be a supporter of israel, but when you start to talk about the leadership and what that holds and there is open discussion and plenty people talking about what this means for prime minister netanyahu down the road. when this president begin to open this discussion, interesting to see where this leads and interesting context of what it was said at a smaller event. >> kayleigh: we just spoke about the tepid relationship biden has with israel, he is losing pro aggressives and muslim americans and he knows that. this has been a vulnerability for him. politico says staying away from the fray is often the best approach, that is the biden perspective, here we go again. criticizing prime minister netanyahu and professing support for israel.

>> emily: i am not surprised, but disheartened by this president and same with ukraine. he invited zelenskyy in today, he's been piecemealing funding so zelenskyy is not able to win. everything comes with strings, that is what he was doing with israel. we are losing spoerlt, you say some lip service and guarantee to israel, only strings, temper your rage and this at a time and do this. it only further hamas's interests which are globe alt condemnation of israel. him saying israel is losing support, it is thanks to biden's response. >> kayleigh: yeah, control your rage, no such words for ukraine. not as full-throttled. more "outnumbered" in just a moment.

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>> kayleigh: last but not least, you cannot avoid christmas songs on the radio. for every holiday hit, plenty you probably wish you wouldn't have to hear again. let's take it to the couch for the worst christmas songs are all time. chris says there are many. >> definitely many. i, john denver, remember him. >> i love john denver. >> don't you say it. don't you say it. >> "please daddy don't get drunk this christmas," the first line is please daddy don't get drunk on christmas, i don't want to see mama cry. >> kayleigh: emily, can't get much worse. >> emily: i accept that, i love john denver. listening to christmas music since july, i can't stand "santa

baby," and especially when they cover it with the squeaky voice. no thank you for all the reasons. >> i'm such a sucker for all the christmas songs, i play them all day long and i love that one, emily. i'm guilty. guilty as charged. >> molly. >> i'm going to, my 7-year-old heard "grandma got run over by a reindeer," and she was like that is so mean. and i have to agree, it's not very nice at all. >> kayleigh: i had to look up mine, i don't know artists, paul mccarthy, or is it mccartney, no, i made a joke, "wonderful christmastime," it gets stuck in your head. don't sing it, we'll be listening to it until primetime television. it's paul mccartney, don't forget it. "america reports". >> john: kayleigh, thank you