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a live look at the white house, president biden is set to meet with volodymyr zelenskyy as they push for an aid package before the holiday recess. >> sandra: republicans have indicated they will not approve more aid unless the president and democratic lawmakers agree to pair the package with tougher border policies. retired lieutenant general keith kellogg whether the funding battle could be giving the sluggish inflation a critical lifeline. that's coming up. >> and the only change they have made to their code of conduct where they failed to condemn calls for genocide of the jewish people, the only update to the code of conduct is to allow a plagiarist. >> said context matters.

>> claudia gay's race protected her from losing her job putting jewish students in harm's way. it's outrageous. >> john: standing by claudine gay despite uproar over antisemitism and genocide against the jews. >> sandra: sandra smith in new york, this is "america reports". that decision by harvard's board caps off one of the most disastrous weeks in the prestigious school's nearly 400 year history, as top alumni, donors and jewish students on campus said gay's conduct since hamas terrorist attack was unacceptable. hundreds of faculty members warned the board would be caving to political pressure if they removed her. br bryan, what's happening. plagiarism. >> bryan: we spoke with dr.

carol swain, tenured at princeton university, and she says she's been shown that gay plagiarized at least twice, without giving her credit. >> if claudine gay had the moral fortitude and integrity, she would just resign. they have given her space now that she should just resign. >> bryan: the harvard corporation says since late october reviewed allegations against plagiarism, a few instances of inadequate citation, the analysis found no violation for the research misconduct, president gay is proactively requesting four corrections in two articles. swain says president gay is treated differently because she's the first black president of harvard. >> if she had been a white male

or a white female, she would be gone by now. harvard doesn't get to redefine what is plagiarism, we all know what plagiarism is, she violated that. and she needs to be held accountable. >> bryan: harvard's governing board, the corporation says gay is keeping her jobs despite complaints she's fostered an unsafe environment for jewish students, extensive deliberations affirm our confidence that president gay is the right leader to help our community heal and address the societal issues we are facing. elise stefanik who grilled her on capitol hill posting no updates to harvard's code of conduct to condemn the calls for genocide of jews. the only update is to allow plagiarism, and harvard has forced 39 students to withdraw from harvard for violating their honor code.

>> sandra: interesting stuff. john, it's remarkable where we are today but does not seem to be to go any way soon and the universities have to face the music. >> john: harvard is trying, mit as well to make it go away, but as bryan points out, so many rules they have in place that would throw a student out on their butt if they violated them. yet calling for the genocide of jews somehow does not seem to violate that rule unless it's in a certain context. i don't know what context it would have to be in. >> sandra: that is pretty crazy, john. >> john: speaking of rules, sandra, the house rules committee right now formlizing an impeachment inquiry into president biden, setting up a resolution that may be up for a full vote by the house as early as tomorrow. meanwhile, hunter biden scheduled to appear before the house oversight committee tomorrow for a closed door deposition, that's what the

subpoena says. members say it's unclear if he's going to show up. kerri kupec urbahn is here with legal analysis, plus jack smith's move at the supreme court. begin with chad pergram live on capitol hill as you like to say, it's about the math. where do things stand at this point? >> john, republicans would not call the vote to formalize the inquiry, they appear to have votes now. mike johnson cautioned it does not automatically result in impeachment of the president. >> people are getting restless, they want things to happen quickly. if you follow the constitution and do the right thing, you cannot rush it. >> you don't think there is an expectation by the base your side is going to impeach -- >> people have opinions on all sides.

>> democrats say republicans have the votes to begin the probe because moderates in swing districts change their tune. susan delbanay said voters are watching vulnerable republicans. >> the american people are taking note, nearly seven in ten voters in competitive districts believes house republicans are focussed on the wrong priorities. >> republicans believe hunter biden used his father's name to enrich the biden family. democrats took aim to target the president's son. >> americans will see in joe biden's truck payments some of their own actions to help struggling children. shame on my republican colleagues for trying to turn this fatherly love into an impeachable offense. >> adopting the resolution to begin the inquiry, helps gather information and enforce

subpoenas. depositions could run through january. john. >> a lot to look forward to. chad pergram on the hill. kerri kupec urbahn, here to help us break it down and talk about jack smith's move at the supreme court as well. listen to speaker johnson why he thought it was necessary to take it to a full vote in the house. >> following the facts where they lead is sitting a stone wall. the white house is impeding the investigation, not allowing witnesses to come forward and thousands of pages of documents. we have no choice to fulfill the constitutional responsibility, we have to take the next step. it's not a political decision, it's a legal decision. >> john: we are not making a political decision, it's a legal decision. what do you say to his justification? >> standard is pretty high, constitution sets for what crime may be impeached for, treason,

bribery and high crimes and misdemeanors. if the white house is impeding efforts but not producing documents it does stall things. interesting what the speaker said and the sound bite at the top of the segment with chad, he said there are expectations on all sides as far as what's going to happen next. i think we should talk about why there are expectations and started with bob mueller, and the catch he brought against trump and resulted in nothing and perpetrated the russia collusion hoax that did not exist and some of the impeachment inquiries and trials of the former president and what bob mueller and the democrats did during the trump administration, they lowered the standards of justice, diminished the standards of justice while raising the expectations on both sides and that created a path towards revenge politics and speaker johnson is right being careful and thorough. what would be tragic, if the

republicans start engaging and the same kind of games and abuse, really, of justice this weigh saw occur against the former president. >> john: for all the claims that was a legal decision, impeachment is a political process and where is the bar as you see it between an impeachment inquiry and filing articles of impeachment? >> there needs to be direct evidence of a crime and that's something the attorney general, i worked for, bill barr and the former administration people were confused about or coming to him, this person should go to jail and this should happen and this should happen. a clarifying question he would ask us as senior aides and anyone that came to him. what is the crime. you need evidence for the crime and that's what they are continuing to investigate but to your point, john and i think to answer a question that are on a lot of people's minds, if there isn't that concrete direct evidence put it aside and move on. >> john: speaking of moving on, jack smith is trying to move on quickly with the trial of

president trump for the january 6th uprising. he has gone to the supreme court now to ask for a direct opinion, bypassing the appellate court whether or not the former president as a former president is immune from prosecution or is not. smith also says he has got some tantalizing evidence from donald trump's white house cell phone that he wants to bring up in court. what do you think about this whole thing that he is going through? >> as he and his doj team said in the filing, this is an extraordinary request, you bypass the appellate court, he and his time are extraordinarily aggressive prosecutors, and you know, there's a lot of coverage over the so-called wins that jack smith and his team have had over the last month or so. what's not covered as much, john, are the losses that he has been -- that he has been experiencing within those so-called wins. for instance, jack smith and his team asked for a gag order that would have severely impacted

donald trump's ability not just to defend himself publicly, but also to speak about his re-elect because they are tied together. the court narrowed the gag order saying it was too broad. civil case, the january civil case, doj weighed in on that recently and asked the court to assume for the sake of that case that donald trump's speech around january 6th was cause for incitement. they are not bringing the charge of incitement yet they want the court to agree, assume that was true, and the court said wait a second, that's not before us. the former president has not appealed that. so, and then lastly, his deputy, jack smith's deputy is aggressive prosecutor as well. fall 2020, when he was at the justice departments, he was not aggressive. doj has an interesting policy where you cannot investigate allegations of fraud in realtime

when it's around an election, on its face strikes people as a little bit strange in terms of common sense. bill barr said wait a second, allegations of fraud, you should be able to investigate those in realtime, jack smith's current deputy wrote a memo to bill barr saying this was inserting doj into politics, they shouldn't be able to do that, and what do you know, now they are fast tracking the timeline to get these cases before the supreme court, why, because of politics. and the 2024 election. >> john: before an election. donald trump may have the opportunity to pardon himself if convicted, he has until the 20th of december to respond. great to see you. >> sandra: thank you, thousands of migrants pouring through the southern border every single day. some aparentally are not sticking around once they are here. former acting ice director tom homan up next what migrants are now saying about america that has them turning around and

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border patrol are so overwhelmed, large parts of the border which are not covered. we have been patrolling the valleys of this area all morning and looking for the drug smugglers. this unit, this unit here has seized a massive amount of narcotics through this area, on patrol here and then head to el paso where the activity is picking up over there and doing what they can to help the border patrol. >> sandra: interesting. tom, can you talk about the live pictures, we were just looking at lukeville, arizona, which is sort of the epicenter of this migrant crisis. when they separate women and children off, it seems there are way more adult males coming over. we are looking at what is likely some sort of processing that's happening with border patrol there, where we know resources, they are overwhelmed, it's like 200 migrants to one border patrol agent we are told at this point. but what's happening there and why is the problem getting so big in arizona now? >> look, the cartels, they study

us every day. they are like a fortune 500 company. they know where the activity is, enforcement resources are. arizona doesn't have the resources texas has so they are swapping to arizona, and look, they know there's very little technology in that part of the border. where i'm standing right now, the cartels know there is little technology so they use it for drug smuggling. yesterday's numbers, over 9,000. you add 1500 got-aways plus the thousands through the port of entry, this is not slowing down a bit. and the reason it's not slowing down is because cartels are selling the actions of this administration. their secretary can say don't come all he wants. as long as we keep releasing around 5,000 people a day to this country, there's no consequence. why would they stop coming? that's why the numbers continue, historic records. i'm being told november numbers out the end of the week, another historic record. >> sandra: wow, that's news right there.

this is a chicago activist, raul, slamming his city, chicago, their response to the flow of migrants because we know chicago is getting a lot of people. listen. >> people have been waiting for years, say for example for, to get citizenship and they don't get anything, 40, 50 years, can't get no amnesty, but these people come, they get everything. rent paid, money, phones, etc., what about the homeless people, what about -- >> veterans. >> veterans, exactly. >> sandra: all kinds of problems popping up, including what mayor johnson in chicago is identifying as rogue bus operators. filing a lawsuit, his administration, tom, says the city has filed 55 lawsuits since it implemented new rules where and when busses can arrive mid november. 77 total busses accused of violating rules. some cases are seeking fines

against the bus companies. all kinds of stuff is going wrong. but tom, now what we are hearing is that we are so inundated with the number of migrants in these cities, some of the migrants are not happy. this is just some of what they are saying. saying work is more limited than they thought, they are finding it impossible to have a stable life here, they are tired of the system, they say it's dangerous, they are not sure how much longer they want to do this, some say they are turning arounds and going back home. what is your response when you hear that, tom? >> i'll believe it when i see it. we still have record numbers across the border. and the guy just talked about, something we don't talk about. massive numbers across the border making fraudulent asylum claims. you look at the ten years of court data, nine out of ten of these people claim asylum won't get released from the courts, they don't qualify or don't show up in court. while they overwhelm the immigration court system, there are thousands of people in the world that are escaping fear and

persecution and death from their homeland. and they are sitting in the back seat because of massive fraud going on. we have millions of people standing in line taking the test, paying the fees, doing the background investigation to become part of this country, resident alien card or become a citizen. they are sitting in the back seat. this administration has not done one thing to slow the flow and that's why the numbers will continue until we get somebody in the white house that's going to enforce the law and close this border down the way it was on the last administration. >> sandra: just incredible. your shot there, alpine, texas, what you are seeing and the number of people you are going through there, eagle pass, texas, the live shot screen right, this is just an incredibly steady flow and as we have been reporting, the numbers are moving up and up in arizona as well. tom, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> john: quite a scene where tom is. intense battles breaking out in gaza as the idf searches far and wide to capture hamas leader

yahya sinwar and find the remaining hostages. live to israel in just moments. >> sandra: plus john, harvard's board is refusing to listen to top donors and alumni who pleaded for claudine gay to lose her job as president. speak with one harvard alum why they are refusing to hold her accountable and the horrific message this decision is sending to jewish students. >> harvard ranks bottom for academic freedom, like they just discovered the first amendment the last two months when the attacks were first time directed at jews.

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and lukeville, arizona, illegal immigrants crossing the border, is in the middle of nowhere, nonstop, each and every day. all of this, of course, is pulling resources off of the ports of entry and vehicle inspections which of course is affecting cross border commerce between mexico and the united states because there just aren't enough personnel to deal with that and then deal with this tide of illegal migration. so, sandra, the rubber hit the road a long time ago and there's just no end in sight here, and no policy to deal with it. >> sandra: highlight what's happening screen right in arizona, because we know it's democrats and republicans alike in that state that have been blasting the biden administration's handling of this crisis. really sort of a rare moment of bipartisanship in what is otherwise a bitterly divided battleground state. immigration obviously the top issue for voters there. the governor, katie hobbs, you

and i have been talking about this, a democrat, she visited the area on saturday after saying the federal response had created an unmitigated crisis. so, these are live images of what they are now dealing with there as this becomes a bigger and bigger issue in arizona. john. >> john: and of course, henry cuellar, a democrat, whose district is along the border, he has a huge swath of the border in his congressional district has long been a critic of the biden administration for the lack of a comprehensive border policy. >> sandra: we are going to keep our eye on the live pictures. any moment now, we are expecting to get an update from the pentagon where this is also a live picture as iranian backed proxies continue to attack u.s. troops and ships in the red sea, and comes as prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he will block the biden administration plans to let the palestinian authority, which currently overseas the best bank, to take over gaza once this war ends. trey yingst is on the ground in

southern israel. trey, hello to you. we just learned some sad news about more hostages. what can you tell us right now? >> we are learning israeli forces have recovered the bodies of two israelis inside gaza. we are talking about warrant officer who was killed on october 7th and a civilian previously seen alive after being kidnapped from the music festival. two israeli soldiers were killed and others wounded. day 67 of the war in hamas, gallant provided new insight into operations on the ground. gallant explained they are encircle ling two neighborhoods in northern gaza, and hope to gather new intelligence from fighters. gallant laying out the goals for israeli troops.

>> islam will take -- israel will take measures to destroy mass but will not stay permanently in the gaza strip. only take care of our security and the security of our citizens alongside the border with gaza and elsewhere. >> israeli fighting against hamas comes as a new screening area opened to speed up the review of humanitarian assistance. the crossing was used to enter goods for israel, and now used to screen aid trucks entering the enclave. they have to cross through egypt so the announcement only affects the screening process. yesterday, 61 aid trucks entered gaza amid international calls to ramp up assistance to palestinian civilians. all of these developments come amid renewed rocket fire into northern israel. hezbollah still getting directly involved in the conflict. sandra.

>> sandra: trey yingst, thank you. in southern israel. >> calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct, correct. >> again, it depends on the context. >> it does not depend on the context. the answer is yes and this is why you should resign. >> john: despite growing pressure for harvard and mit to remove their presidents after last week's hearing on antisemitism, both university boards appear to be standing by their leaders, even as top alumni pull their donations and jewish students warn they don't feel safe on their campuses. joining us from israel is joseph ash, a graduate of harvard's master of public administration and israeli trial criminal lawyer. joseph, good of you to be with us. it looks as we said at the top here that harvard is standing by claudine gay as president. in a statement saying "as members of the harvard corporation we today reaffirm our support for president gay at

harvard university. extensive deliberations have affirmed our confidence president gay is the right leader to help our community heal and to address the very serious societal issues we are facing." i'm not sure what the last part is about, why the harvard community is in need of healing and the societal issues they are facing. harvard is standing by her, sally cornbluthe has the support of mit. is this over? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me. i think that every member of the board should ask himself or herself one question. what would their decision be if only one word of the question that was presented to the president of harvard was changed. instead of jewish genocide, african american genocide, christian genocide, would she have given the same appalling

answer? and what would their decision be about supporting her. i have a strong feeling that she definitely would not give the same answer and if she would have given the same answer, i'm sure that it would have taken the board a minute to reach the logical conclusion that she is not fit to run, to head one of the world's greatest universities. and i want to say something else, another point. >> john: sure. >> we have to realize this is not an academic theoretical discourse. the genocide against the jews is something that is alive and kicking. we are dealing with it now against the hamas. thousands of hamas members came into israel and beheaded and burned and executed and raped 1200 citizens. on the campuses in the u.s.,

including harvard university, heard interviews of students who are afraid to walk around campus. attacked, their dormitories are being attacked. so here you have the president of harvard in front of congress and she has such a great opportunity to set things straight. it is unlawful to incite violence, plain and simple. instead of that, she gives this disgusting stutter of an answer, so i find it very hard to understand the statement of the board that basically is saying that she is the exact leadership that harvard university needs at this time. >> john: i'm sorry, we seem to be interesting problem with your connection, we are losing your audio. try it one more time. we have a good picture. the audio is sketchy. >> can you hear me now? >> john: we do appear to have completely lost your audio. you know, as we try --

what was said during the hearing last week, when congresswoman stefanik questioned all three members of those universities, all three presidents, asking them the same question about whether calls for genocide against the jewish people violated the code of conduct at the universities. here is what they said. >> heard chants which can be antisemitism depending on the context when calling for the elimination of the jewish people. >> if the speech turns into conduct it is harassment. it is a context dependent decision, congresswoman. >> it can be, depending on the context. >> john: so apparently, joseph, it's not us that have lost your audio, it's me that has lost all audio. so, go ahead and answer that question. is there any context in which a call for genocide, a call for the extermination of an entire race of people would not be a

violation of harvard's code of conduct? >> i think it's unbelievable that such a question can be seriously asked and like i said before, if we were not talking about genocide of jews but the genocide of any other people, everything would be different. the president of harvard's answer would be different and the statement of the board of harvard would be different, and that is what's so unbelievably disturbing about this whole situation and like i started to say before, that this is not a mere academic theoretical discussion. the question of the annihilation of the jews is a discourse that is alive and kicking, unfortunately. we are dealing with this in israel now, after thousands of hamas terrorists entered the country and beheaded babies and shoved babies into ovens and

murdered and executed and raped. on a much smaller scale, jewish students are feeling this on the campuses of american universities. and so this is not -- this is not theoretical and here the president of harvard has such a great opportunity to set things straight and relay a very loud and clear message. it is not ok to call for the genocide of the jewish people. it is unlawful to incite violence and it's unbelievable. the statement that you read at the beginning of the board of harvard in my way of thinking is absolutely disgusting. >> john: i would expand that to say it's not ok to call for the genocide of any group of people, not just the jews. >> of course. >> john: yet according to these folks, it depends on the context. joseph ash, thank you for joining us. >> can i make one more point?

>> john: quick, a few seconds. >> i think the problem here is funding the american authority should be investigating who is funding these universities and i'm sure, i have a strong suspicion that there are entities funding harvard that are unlawful in the u.s., and that should be definitely investigated. >> john: we do know the federal government funds harvard to the tune of about $625 million a year, the american public should have a say here. joseph asch, thank you for being with us. appreciate it. >> sandra: very interesting discussion. a green mandate in california threatening to kill thousands of high paying union jobs across the u.s.. kevin o'leary. >> john: hit-and-run drivers, taking aim at pedestrians and mowing them down and laughing about it and the urgent search

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>> john: police in seattle are looking for some drivers who appear to be aiming their cars at pedestrians and intentionally mowing them down. police are releasing the videos to generate tips to find the drivers and the pedestrians, some of whom have gone missing. dan springer is live in seattle with more. sounds really bizarre, dan. >> yeah, bizarre and really disturbing. talked to a business owner across the street and he said the seattle police were given these t disturbing videos by an anonymous donor. >> [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [laughter] [bleep] [bleep] >> in the first video, a passenger in the back seat records on her phone as the driver swerves to the left and

then slams into a woman walking in a driveway. security video shot across the street shows other people running to help the woman as the car speeds off, it happened around 2:00 a.m.. 11 blocks away, police think on the same night, a passenger in a different car records on a phone as that driver hits a pedestrian in the bus lane. the victim rolled over the top of the car. in both videos, people in the vehicles can be heard laughing. >> our detectives recently obtained videos of the callous crimes that occurred on aurora, the driver targets and hits pedestrians. i'm asking anyone with information to please come forward. >> seattle crimes are very similar to a fatal hit-and-run in las vegas in august. that video was posted on social media. the driver and passenger, ages 17 and 16 at the time, were caught and are being tried as adults for the murder. a crimologist partially blames

social media. >> more people are interacting with media and media violence, it creates opportunities to make it easier to harm other people. >> according to the national highway traffic safety administration, hit-and-run fatalities are up 82% since 2014. and we are, john, police are still looking for the suspects and they are also looking for the victims. this area is known for prostitution, and perhaps that's why no victims have come forward. john. >> john: like we said at the beginning, this is a bizarre situation. hopefully they will get some answers. dan springer, sandra. >> sandra: a female cyclist hitting back at critics saying it's not fair when transgender completes compete against women and win. charlie arnot has a thing or two to say, plus this. >> now i'm going to start

screaming questions at these women like i'm billy ikener. antisemitism, yay or nay. >> john: "saturday night live" being called antisemitic and made elise stefanik look like an air head. the material caused a comedian to bow out of playing stefanik. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete,

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>> sandra: rare rebuke to critics, a female athlete saying it would be ridiculous to say my life has been ruined by getting third. i had a great race and it will have been more boring if it had been a smaller field without such strong competitors in it. host of "out kick" the morning, that's her prerogative, but most women feel the spots is taken from them. >> most women feel, men are stronger and faster in most instances. a male mediocre athlete has gone to the women's division, they

have the success the women should be having. 1 of 2 situations, one, a victim of the woke modern day stockholm syndrome and regurgitating lgbtq talking points she has picked up from the mainstream media. how does she the men as the real victims when it's very apparent the women are the ones who are losing out on success and opportunities. even used manufactured controversy, sounds like cnn, right. >> sandra: it's her choice to feel this way, this is the photo, it is on the screen, so, here it is, and she's obviously on the far left there, and she looks very happy, so i don't know, maybe she truly feels this way and that is fine. and she did pen this letter and got other female cyclists to chime in. said we refuse to be falsely presented as victims in a manufactured controversy, she says, and others, driven to further alienate marginalize

those in our community, rampant lgbtq+ legislation, the letter reads we speak for ourselves, inclusion makes our sport and community stronger, everyone is welcome here, trans women are women. you know who did not take well to that response and that statement, riley gaines. often a guest on this program, why is it so often women applaud their own erasing? female athletes do not have the right to willingly surrender the integrity of competition for everyone. majority of female athletes believe, to your point, charlie, women deserve respect and fair competition. she is a traitor to ethical and fair sport and a traitor to women. >> she is a traitor. she's either brainwashed or a complete coward. as we have seen, a lot of women fear taking a controversial stance, they don't want to draw ire from the left but either

way, kristin chal mers is a disgrace, and an athlete, you have one priority, to win. how do you call yourself an athlete to give the success to the men to take it an i way from you. we saw meganis remarkable, but . it comes as the border chief there says migrants believe they'll just be let into the country with no consequences. former yuma sector border patrol chief chris clem will be here on that. stay with us. and i love overcoming challenges. ♪

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